An anonymous source told me a DSLR-sized E-mount camera has been spotted “testing in Shanghai“. He says “from the actual size, I would think it is an E mount camera instead of FE mount“. It’s likely that he is talking about the A3000 replacement which is likely to come this Spring.
The Sony A3000 has been announced one and a half-year ago (Aug 2013). It’s main goal is to appeal the mass market by offering a SLR-alike design. I don’t know what you think but I would also like the A9 to have a more DSLR design too. Mainly because it means bigger size with better placed controls and better grip.
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Anything at all on the A9/A7RII front?
didnt they release a A3100 ?
anyway, i would love to see a A3000 body with A6000 internals, kitted with 18-105mm G. and market the package around 700GBP…..
If Sony has kicked out entry level A-mount cameras, I’m not sure why they didn’t already replaced it with DSLR sized E-mount models. Not like a3000, but more like a5000 with DSLR body and some extra features (two card slots, or internal 4K, or more buttons, or something similar that bigger body would allow…). I belive such cameras would sell well.
a3000/a3500 do not allow to use EVF for playback… Damn DSLR emulation!
Really? Well, that sucks. And yet, kinda expected from this bastard camera. And yes, people buying them are probably okay with this DSLR-ish behaviour.
I saw an interesting article the other day. The best selling E-mount camera here in Sweden actually is the A3000 (shrug). It was the next best selling MILC in Sweden last year. Top selling model? Canon EOS M! The EOS M had an introductory price of $1100 but was soon dropped to $250, hence the “popularity”. Over all, Sony was the clearly biggest MILC brand with 33,1%.
No entry level A-mount.
But DSLR size E-mount camera.
with Fast 4D AF + IBIS.
Means ………
Sony, please do not fall back to DSLR size.
It is not a fall back, it is a side step, the small cameras will be comming too.
The A3000 is a nice entry level for people who want a cheap camera. Some E-mount users use this camera as a second body, when they fear that tit might breal when using it (like in bad conditions) or just as a spare camera.
I really don´t get people who say that e-mount cameras should look more like DSLRs. Why don´t they buy a DSLR instead. The e-mount system started out because people wanted a high quality compact system.
I see it as “ergonomics over aesthetics”, meaning I’d rather have my camera an extension of my arm rather than something I put on display while I consume my latte.
This doesn’t mean I didn’t prefer lighter weight and smaller body either…
(and as a reminder: mirrorless is not just about size)
There are other compact DSLR-like mirrorless models out there (m43rd has them), so there is a market for it.
Judging by the number of a3000s I’ve seen people using, it’s a tiny one
I think that was more because the A3000 was rubbish. Nasty EVF and nasty screen – neither of which were good enough to evaluate photos. It was cheap though.
A 7 or even 8 or 9 series with this formfactor would be so much more interessting than some cut down 3 series.
No doubt the price will be more “interesting” too.
Agree. I always loved the A55 form factor. The A55 is pretty much the same height and width as the A7II, although it is thicker due to the greater distance between the lens and sensor with A-mount. So an E-mount APS-C which was based on the A55 would be a great size. Not too big but comfortable to handle (more so than the A6000) and with the central viewfinder which seems more ergonomic than that of the A6000. An A7000 like this would be enough to make me move from A-mount.
Judging by the number of GH2, 3 and 4s I’ve seen people using (including converters from Sony APS-C), that’s a reflection on the a3000 and Sony rather than anything else!
Maybe that was why it started out. But the reality is that Sony can release both compact bodies (e.g. A5100) and ergonomically unhindered large bodies (A9?) in e-mount. It is very flexible in this regard and so can cater for a wide range of demands.
IF there is no A99ii coming,
I would hope e-mount come with larger body.
Better battery life, larger buffer, dual card slot, better grip, better balance for large lens.
A small DSLR -like e-mount camera to compete directly with GH4 would be an eye opener, but I suspect this one will not be it.
The basic layout and grip of the a7ii are more or less spot on, without having to go for the fake dslr look. The a3000 didn’t sell well compared to the a5000, which suggests that the form factor really isn’t what people want. Certainly none of the pro reviews of the a7x seem to be asking for it in a dslr package and it defeats the object of having a system that can be light and compact with smaller lenses.
The thing is, there is a lot to talk about how the a3000 sells. It’s probably not just because there is a few people that wants large body cameras, but probably because the of the competition. More people are more content with the name ‘nikon’ or ‘canon’ than something else.
If this will have good EVF and IBIS and AF from a6000/5100 there will be nice cam with LA-EA and bigger lens …
I would not buy a DSLR like A9!
I would.
If it come with IBIS, fast AF, longer battery life, 4k video
I would.
Sure and be prepared for a price increase to four digits.
nikon has already two out of four these.
They’ve now done a huge amount of marketing for their a7 series, so the most logical thing would be to offer the a3200 with an a7 style body which people are more likely to recognize. It would help boost both the a3200 sales as well as the a7… but well. Here comes Sony’s confused shotgun anyways.
it better not have that 3 dot evf that the a3k has… ugh… it looked like a speak n spell screen
haha 3 pixel evf
No !!!! Keep it small, unobtrusive, pocketable! If you want an ultra-light DSLR, why not buy a cheap Nikon? What makes Sony potentially special is the A7 design (whatever the format), with small but superb lenses; ease of portability; *silent* vibration-free shutter!; IBIS / VR. The world is moving away from DSLRs. Why copy one?!
Because not everybody wants small.
Since Sony is unwilling to produce DSLRs, they’ll have to make DSLR-shaped mirrorless, including bigger A99-sized models.
“Why not just buy Nikon” – same reasons as for buying SLTs over Nikons.
buying a small emount body over DSLR makes sense because of greater portability. but a SLT over DSLR has very little, that is why it doesn’t sell well.
“stick a new sensor into A900” is much more sane
SLT doesn’t sell well because Sony doesn’t want to sell / market it. SLT has many advantages over DSLR.
Sticking a new sensor into A900 gets you a camera identical to Canon / Nikon offerings, which, in fact, doesn’t make sense.
Many advantages, like longer finder blackout?
they tried and still they’re phasing out SLT.
Yup, the finder blackout / slideshow effect in burst mode, plus the inability to simply squeeze down on the shutter lightly and take just one exposure when the a99 is set to 6fps mode… Those were deal breakers for me. That’s why I’ve stuck with the a900.
Actually, because of the excellent autofocus lenses developed because of the Zeiss/SONY partnership and the IBIS…
SONY DSLRs always made a lot of sense!
A900 plus 46MP (or 36MP) sensor? Yes please! I wish SONY or Hasselblad or some third party would offer an upgrade program to do just that!
Heck if Minolta (and later Runtime in Germany) was willing to take apart your Maxxum 9 and put a new motherboard in it so that it’d support SSM lenses, it certainly wouldn’t be impossible.
Now here’s a poll to post on SAR Andrea…
Would you rather pay $2000 for:
1) a new body with an SLT, an EVF, and 36/46MP sensor with excellent high ISO performance
2) a 36/46MP sensor and firmware upgrade installed into your a850/a900
The results might shock SONY’s marketing team…
Sony has those already. A5000 and A5100 fits well in my jacket pocket with pancake or kit lens.
Because there are many small e-mount camera already.
Because Not every one want small camera.
Because they can’t make the 70-200 F2.8 small.
Because Sony lens won’t fit in Nikon body.
Because Nikon’s DSLR no IBIS & EVF
they can’t make (yet) 70-200 F2.8 small, but they even failed for 35/1.4 which we know can be made small
EVF is not really an advantage.
Relax… no one’s forcing you to buy one and don’t expect sony to be like canon and only release only what has proven to work.
Just take a look at both B&H and Amazone. This type of camera is selling well. A lot of people want a DSLR and see this E-mount camera in the shop and are sold. It looks like a DSLR but it is cheaper and maybe a bit smaller & lighter…
Sony is trying to replace DSLRs with mirrorless, but small bodies don’t appeal to everyone and big lenses are (hopefully) coming, so it’s logical that they’d have to offer both compact and full-sized models.
When they (hopefully) make an FE 70-200 f/2.8, we’ll need an A99-sized FE body to go along with it, and these A3000 things may be the first step in this direction.
meh
Any info on A7000 pleaaase Admin! ))
A beginners camera, probably nothing more, nothing less.
Strange look. There seem to be fans for old-style designs, who have to be served.
I am not at all suporter for new tech in retro appearence.
The problem with these is the terrible EVF. If they fix that, there are lots of phone/p&s upgraders who want a big camera just for the looks. It’s only those who’ve suffered carrying real/big/old cameras who want the most compact bodies.
um, do many “phone upgraders” know what EVF is for? I see many people using liveview even on canon DSLRs
It was i who found the evf really bad.
if a mediumcodec aps-c 4k sensor works in it-you can blow all this hollywwoodmen with
a 349,90,- cam. Yes ist is terrible, pasticque and so on but…
funny all this. it is the man not the camera-and waht is with all this ” terrible” 2007 full-hd
cams with adapters and so on? if the pasticque is nit fine-take a hammer and in 2 sec you
hae redesigned it. and yes it has a gripp. oh no.. frodo boeutlin likes to buy a kikstater-grip
for only 300,- on the flat smartphone samal tampon camera- metrosexell nerdy.
but. they will not. ony a simple uptade.. this is sony.
and people out arte funny…
Okaaaaaaaaay…
Sharpshooter still no speaking english I see.
If you can’t write in English, try your own language — or shut up! Why should we be expected to read this sort of rubbish?
Got my A3000 for under 200e, while EVF stinks and there’s no remote control, everything else is fabulous
How could you tell the difference between E and FE mount just by looking at the body size? They are the same mount. Only difference would be size or focal length of standard kit lens.
There id no FE mount,Just FE lenses.
Much like there is a-mount, and DT lenses. – But no DT mount.
Only Canon can get away with having two mounts, and not enabling the use of APS-C lenses on FF bodies.
Right – which is why I wrote “They are the same mount”
Semantics for sure, but for me that’s like saying a unicorn is the same as a horse.
I use the A3000 for my LA EA2 + SONY 70-400. Ok it’s a lot of air int he body but it is good to hold with such a big lens combination. The sensor is amazing btw. The EVF and LCD…. well…… no comment
and yet the A-mount still ain’t dead yet? Who’s been drinking kool aid?
If they do release a A3000 replacement hopefully they will keep it similar just put in a better EVF and LCD, The A3000 was built to be the cheapest possible camera with good image IQ, in that they succeeded, but a better EVF would have been nice. It is actually a very nice camera for use with manual lenses except for the EVF and LCD. If it is a new 9-series camera than I expect it to have very good EVF and LCD, hopefully it gets the A99 (A77) LCD hinge system.
And add 1 or two more control dials
I use manual lenses with it so I do not need anymore dials. Lens handles aperture, push on right of control to get ISO, left to get exposure compensation and I have a lower button set to give me zoom for focusing. Of course for E-mount lenses having at least one more dial would be nice, two better.
Sincerely hope you are wrong with the form factor of the A9. Please Sony, please, do not make it look like a bulky old DSLR. Please even get rid of the ugly and useless pseudo prism on top of the A7. Have the courage to make slim and sleek like a rangefinder. Fuji is selling x100’s like fresh beer, the forums overflow with requests for a x-pro2 – What does that tell us?
Agreed. Strongly. But I imagine an A9 will have a viewfinder hump.
I’m waiting for an A5s with a detachable viewfinder or a popup viewfinder like the rx100m3, but with the A7s sensor and image stabilization. That would be the pocket powerhouse of the century!
Sure it would….with a the body cap and no lens attached. Put the FE 55 on and you do not have pocketability any longer. An A5s sell a total of 5 cameras…
I go everywhere with the A7s in my coat pocket, with the HUGE Mitakon 50mm f.95 lens. It fits awkward in my coat pocket, but it fits. I just want that viewfinder hump gone so it doesn’t jut out so much and catch on my coat pockets, and I will ha a truly coat pocketable solution.
That “pseudo prism” ensures high quality EVF optics.
No it doesn’t, I’ve pulled the camera apart
The EVF part takes up most of the hump volume. It could be made to be more squared off and less trapezoidal but that wouldn’t do anything to make it more or less portable. People (like Goetz) who think the hump is useless must think modern electronics run on pixie dust, air and dreams.
Hump could be eliminated entirely, e.g. body like A6000 but 9 mm taller. It still be more portable than hump
A6000 use APSC sensor not FF
that is why I said “9 mm taller” — actually it doesn’t need to.
I don’t want the hump to be eliminated, I want it to be a massive EVF and flip 120 degrees so we can shoot low and higher angles and still have a EVF.
I too would love to see the EVF (and its hump) be physically larger! Give me a view as large as a pentax 67 and I’ll be a happy shooter!
Never thought of an EVF that swivels. Could be useful actually…
Video camcorder style EVF is the way to go, it moves up & down.
Yes, nice and big crispy so we can really focus manually, a screen as good as the new zacuto gratical EVF, which is crazy sharp but a bit small.
No it wouldn’t. A big square block is no more portable than a camera with a hump.
I’m sure you have pictures of this, be so kind and post them.
No need, a basic google can find disassembled photos. The EVF is overly complicated for repair, but if the camera was made of a solid bit of metal, the viewfinder could be considerably smaller. If the viewfinder was to the left of the lens, it could fit lower down on the body.
“have you even touched an A7”
Yes I’ve used many, two of which broke in antarctica
Googled them right after I asked.
Well I like the idea of having a RF layout no matter what, I really like shooting with the a6000 because it leaves your nose intact. But for me the most important change would be a swivel EVF with about 120 degrees in movement so we can go 90 up and 30 down. Which would probably need a hump or a wider body if you want to make it nice and big. Now I’m putting stupid things like a cage and z-finder on the A7S just to be able to shoot a low angle. For me a EVF that is usable in any angle is crucial not just for focus etc. but also stability.
Prove it, or it didn’t happen.
Clearly you haven’t compared it to the optics of the NEX-6 or NEX-7.
The optics are far superior in the A7.
Wrong…nothing is superflous in the design and build:
http://www.lensrentals.com/blog/2014/01/the-a7r-teardown-a-look-inside-sonys-awesome-full-frame-mirrorless-camera
It tell us that x-pro2 use crop sensor not Full Frame.
A proper form factor is the more or less only thing stopping me from using only FE cameras. I do not need a fast AF, not doing sports… I own a a7s and a a850; I would love to have the a7s sensor inside a a850 body; no need for the OVF (despite the a850 OVF is superb!). Add the 5 axis IBIS and I’m fine. Give the LAEA4 for free and my guess is that >80% of alpha A-mount users would be too… but handling of a 70-200/2.8 on a a7 series camera is just kind of BS.
So, Sony, be bold and do it; have a full size SLT style e-mount body and take away my money..
BTW: Samsung is doing the same with the NX1…
Sony needs to stop wacking at the diiick weeds and start dropping the fast lenses.
Why be forced to use an adapter when it’s possible to have it as A-mount. I would buy A9 only it has Dslr Body Evf 36mpix and most important A-Mount. An adapted system for $3000+ only to be forced to buy lenses with a changed mount diameter only too please videographer Sony is simple irrational.
I’d prefer the A9 in the form of a DSLR or a slightly bulkier A7ii and the A7 in the form of Nex 7.
Please don’t spread things like “FE-mount”. There is no such mount …
Indeed, since when have people stopped using APS-C (or cropped) and FF when discussing sensor sizes?
When people realised that APS-C is not cropped, it is a full format sensor as it uses all of the sensor. Full Frame is a ridiculous way of describing a 35MM sized sensor. Full frame means using ALL of the sensor no matter what the size of the sensor which could be 35mm, APS-C, M43, and bigger sizes as well.
Great, now tell the rest of the world and maybe you got something.
yawn…puny sensor user identified…welcome to full frame reeducation camp…HOOLK gonna waterboard into you 35mm=full frame, fgt!
No.
35mm is the width of the type 135 film, not a sensor size. For still image photography 24x36mm was not only the most common format used with 135 film but the dominating format with all types of film considered.
APS (Advanced Photo System) is a 24mm wide film that in its classical crop, APS-C is 25.1×16.7mm.
Since then sensors with similar size, even though being slightly smaller, like 23.5×15.6mm for Nikon and 22.4x15mm for Canon, are being called APS-C.
APS-C (and APS-H also used by Canon) sensors are also known as crop sensors because they appeared in SLR camera systems made for 24x36mm film like Canon’s EF mount and Nikon’s F-mount. In fact Nikon even made APS crop film cameras with F-mount and some 24-26mm film cameras had a 13x36mm panorama crop mode option.
Because 24x36mm before digital was the dominating format and the largest sensor size affordable for ordinary people, as larger sensors represents such a small and much more expensive nishe, they are by most people seen as the reference, full frame size to which all other, smaller sensors are seen as crop sensors with a crop ratio compared to 36x24mm sensors.
You may think otherwise and not like that 36x24mm sensors are being called full frame. But that is their universally accepted name. Smaller sensors already have their own names like APS-C, 4/3 (Four Thirds) 1″ etcetera. To differ sensors we need different names or nobody would know the size if all sensors were called full frame.
Whole plate, half plate, quarter plate. What are these?
No, this is wrong, well at least partly. What you are referring to is image circle, APS was it’s own format with it’s own mount/s and lenses, it started being referred to as ‘crop sensor’ when it was used in 135 format systems but with an APS-C sized sensor. This is the reason for them being referred to as ‘crop’ sensors. But with new systems being designed as APS-C from the beginning then yes, they are indeed full format.
Pentax Q for example launched as a ‘crop’ system and later was released in full format (originally conceived as a 1/1.7″ but released as a 1/2.3″ initially).
Context is everything. Where a smaller sensor format is used with a lens body/system designed for a larger format it’s very sensible to refer to it as “cropped”. For instance, on Sony’s A-Mount, Canon’s EF mount and Nikon’s F-Mount. Indeed, given it’s now clear E-mount was always designed with sufficient clearance to support 24x36mm, then there too it makes sense to call the APS-C sensors “cropped format”.
However, where a complete camera system has been designed for APS-C format it makes no sense to call it a “cropped sensor”. For example, Samsung’s NX system appears to be designed as a native APS-C format and there the sensors are therefore not “cropped format”.
A-mout will be long gone, Sony will be with their Z mount and people will still consider “FE” as a different mount from E-mount… that’s sad.
However it makes sense to differentiate E and FE because adapters are different for crop and FF.
There is no FE-mount.
LA-EA3/4 work for both crop & FF.
The old adapter 1/2 are out of production already.
there are a lots of old third party adaptors on ebay which don’t support FF
But they are NOT different MOUNTS. You CAN use an APS-C lens on a FF body without a need of adapters and vice-versa.
There will be, of course, vignetting because of the different radius.
A-mount and E-mount are different mounts.
You need to differentiate E-lens to FE-lens. As you had A-lens and DT-lens.
And yet, an anonymous source, who doesn’t even know that there is no such thing as “FE mount”, qualifies as SR-3.
You mean the A3500 replacement.
A3500 is exactly the same thing as A300 but with an even crappier kit lens to offload to gullible Australians.
Which is irrelevant, the A3500 is the later model number.
Which is irrelevant, as the only thing that was changed was the lens, not the body. A3000/a3500 are exactly the same you autistic ****.
Except that the A3500 is the MODEL NUMBER being replaced.
Except that you’re autistic.
You miss the point, there is not going to be a LOWER model number than 3500.
Shut up, you stupid autistic loser. No one cares what you have to say.
Have you seen tests to show that it is in fact crappier? Serious question, I haven’t seen any tests at all. Yes it loses IS (shouldn’t be a problem with newer IBIS bodies) and MF ring (but ‘gains back’ a proper zoom ring over the 16-50mm).
In my very very brief test of it I thought performance was quite good for a crappy kit lens and was very surprised by the amount of coverage of FF, especially between 24-35mm.
Sony a3000 v2
– e-mount
– 2.4M dot EVF
– fully articulating LCD
– 24MP
– IBIS
Pretty much a mini a77ii with crappier AF when using LA-EA2/4 and the option of using e-mount lenses.
If Sony made this, along with a FF version and an LA-EA5 with a new updated version of SLT implemented and full proper flash and af assist compatibility, a-mont will truly be dead for good.
For IBIS, the larger body would absolutely make sense. I don’t think IBIS would fit into an A6000 body. That’s why the A7 II is thicker than the A7.
What the heck are you talking about? The a3000 has a larger body than the a6000. It’s similar in size to the a77ii.
a7ii**
Even if we got a DSLR styled FE mount, we don’t have the fast glass people want. Still need 85 and 135.
Even if we got a DSLR styled FE mount, we don’t have the money tree people want. Still need a garden of money trees.
It might be a cunning move to produce an e-mount camera which is aimed to compete with Nikon and Canon entry-level DSLRs. Some will have a preconception of what a “serious” systems camera might look like, and there are other mirrorless cameras styled this way. A-mount is effectively a dead end for new beginners (I’d never recommend it to anyone) as the industry moves towards fully electronic systems with fewer moving parts and EVFs. A-mount only exists to service existing customers with investments in the system, and will become increasingly niche.
Such a “DSLR-styled” mirrorless will be relatively cheap to develop as it could be nothing much more than a rebodied A6000. A larger body might also allow for inclusion of IBIS, a larger battery and better ergonomics, something that would be useful on higher end models too.
I don’t see the emergence of a larger bodied E-mount option being the end of the more compact models, but rather a way of filling market niches at relatively little development cost whilst maintaining full technical compatibility. The fundamental building blocks of the system (shutter assemblies, sensor/stabilisation, screen, EVF, image processor etc.) are where the serious development money goes. The rest is an ergonomic and marketing packaging. It makes perfect sense.
So in the end the evolution of E – mount will be that it has pushed out A-mount of the Dslr body and saved 2 screws which one of them holding the most part of the load applied on the mount? Is that a step forward or backwards in the evolution?
Why would a FF sensor need to have a large grip permanently attached to it? Make a camera with interchangeable grips!
If the detachable grip can hold extra batteries… or audio or 4K pro-res video recorder, sure.
It would also have a vibrating motor and have an optional “bell-end” attachment to convert it for intimate use with the partners that insist in going to a shoot and get quickly bored.
Cool idea, ergonomically, it worked well on 16mm cameras.
And s16 kinda shot 4K 🙂 We live in this weird cycle where parts of the tech go two steps forward and some parts 3 steps back. Ergonomics is the thing sony got perfectly right on the fs7 and pretty wrong on the A7.
Yeah, but the FS7 sucks for a stills shooter……..ergonomically speaking.
hehehe to be honest, despite ordering one, i’m not sure I want a big camera. I should hire some young kid who is desperate to carry big things.
I’d really like to give one a go, it looks very much like something designed in the ’60s, it’s kinda retro-cool. The fact it takes E-Mount glass is a huge plus for a stills shooter with a complete A7x outfit. My only gripe is the new zoom @ 28-135, WTF. On the crop sensor how will that be useful?
At first I thought, oh the 28 is when you use it for full frame, but then I saw the front end is 95mm, the A7S has no ND you can spend either $500+ on a giant vari ND or put a mattebox on the A7s if you want to use that lens FF. So yes, it is a weird combo, to narrow and not long enough. If they are gong to hit is with something 28mm, at least make it go up to 11: 280mm or 300 or something.
The A7S is cool and compact but did find the bitrate is a bit low when you push it, so the fs7 is the way to go, but I probably need to get me the 16-35 if I ever want to shoot any kind of wide inside. The only problem I have with the sony lenses is the awful fly by wire focus where the reference points float around like they are doing a tango. If you focus just a little too fast on the 70-200 you might have shot PAST infinity and have to focus back, but only slow or it will shoot back to 2meter.
Ok it’s not that horrible but pretty horrible. ibis and nice manual glass is what i really want. Talk about retro: Have been checking some nice angenieux zooms, but old age does make me depend a little more on OSS then I care to admit when shooting handheld. Perhaps old manual glas + tripod, everybody else is shooting boring videos like this, so why not… hehe
Plus all the Sony zooms do it bassackwards. When I’m in the middle ranges and try to punch-in, invariably muscle memory kicks in and I’m actually punching out. A servo-zoom is very cool to have though, often I’ll reach for the little RX10 for the servo zoom and ND’s, especially in good light for group stuff, the look is better for those shots too.
Now you mention it, thats why I always thought the zooms are stuck: i’m turning them the wrong way…. and yes I have videos where I go out and then in. The RX10 is a pretty cool package but I’m only getting one when it does 4K. Bought the rx100 first day it was available here and never regretted it, still great for snapshots. Not everything needs to be isolated from the background, sometimes context is very useful 🙂 It is one of the reasons I took me a while to decide on GH4 or A7S because for video, it is nice to have a bit more DOF in docu situations. But with the high ISO you can stop down enough. The RX10 has nd’s? Cool I think I remember something like that, it really is a good package, add the XLR adapter and you got a great repo cam.
Would like to see a servo zoom grip for the A7S so we can go full eng style with that thing, not sure it is possible with the usb port, perhaps on the A7SII. Had a pretty cool usb focus controller on the 5DIII, great when doing very slow focus pulls at 400mm because you did not have to touch the lens, would like something like that for the A7S as well.
/rant
That new XLR module is sweet on the RX10. All its missing is those cinema picture profiles, aspect ratio cropping guides, 4K & BOSS stabilizer. I find people tend to ignore me if I point the RX10 at them, that’s kinda cool for press/editorial stuff.
It is one of the things I like most about the A7S: it is almost like wearing camouflage, you blend into a group easy. It also helps with interviews because it feels less official. I also like the fact the shallow dof can get you close to the subject while talking without having the entire background popping and distracting. For some jobs we still run around with epics or eng shoulder cams and you beter bring a long lens and tripod if you want to stay unnoticed. the RX10 has pretty good lens control as well, this is something I’m missing on the A7S, for video most lenses are a bit crap. Aperture control is annoying, and old manual glass, lovely to shoot with, but to jittery because the camera doesn’t have the inertia of ‘real’ camera’s unless I stick it on a massive rig completely defeating the point of the camera. So yeah a RX10II or 20 with boss/ibis/bitch/youknow and 4K would be fantastic, perhaps with a bit more zoom but it is not that important.
AFAIK modern digital bolex shoots 4K
The new one? It shoots 2K raw, very nice but massive files.
A7 II
*puke*
Or maybe its the new AEEEEEEEEAAAAAAA mount… Or some other painful experiement by sony in an attempt to secure some obscure portion of the market. Oh Sony you autistic savant.
Painful experiment? The a3000 already exists. All they have to do is throw in a higher res EVF and LCD screen. Hardly a painful experiment when the parts already exist.
Trolls are a despicable group of people. They make it hard for honest
hard working people like me to come in and be sarcastic and criticize
every thing and every one.
In a similar way to how photography and other digital mediums are getting more affordable and the types of users are thus changing also: for instance those who now use serious video gear, trolls are now probably best described as politicians, engaging in low level political activism: these forums are their new virtual soap box..except they drown out and prevent free speech of real people for that right and are JUST smug and nihilistic.
Nothing says trailer park poor as clearly as an APS-c Sony camera with lossy less than 14 bit color. America is becoming Idiocracy and Sony is leading the way.
There are some nice trailers out there these days. Just saying.
Better than sleeping under his bridge.
Interesting comment. Around every low income housing project there’s often that one guy wearing the “fancy jewelry” & causing problems. It reminds me of you in this lossy 14 bit Sony trailer park pushing your useless sh1t.
Interesting comment. Around every low income housing project there’s often that one guy wearing the “fancy jewelry & causing problems.” It reminds me of you in this lossy 14 bit Sony trailer park pushing your useless crap.
You are giving yourself away now, you have obviously never set foot in a trailer park in the US, why don’t you go and spread your trolling clichés somewhere else.
Berlin’s a Pohm.
Agree with you Admin, I also prefer a DSLR style mirrorless camera. I do not know why people think mirrorless must necessarily mean small.
I want A77 size and with hybrid OVF/EVF. Basically, stuff the A7 guts in the A77.
How do you plan to create an OVF/EVF from a mirrorless or slt tech? There is no optical path for your OVF. If you want OVF I’m afraid you may be stuck with a dslr from canikon.
He will use flippinoidal technology that Samsung is using.
Don’t know how, just want. Kind of like that Fuji x100s.
well there are ways, just to name a few:
* parallax OVF
* using complicated optics with fresnel and aspherics to do the same what reflex mirror does, but in more restricted space
* moving sensor: instead of flipping mirror, sensor slides to the side and exposes matte screen
* sensor which can act as a matte screen
of course all of them are impractical 😀
I can confirm the A9 is a DSLR style.
Great news. Makes more sense.
If that’s true then I would go wtih D750..
Could it be a A mount entry level camera to replace the A58 ?
Keep wishing. As much as we’d all love to see A58II, the probability of A3000II or A9 coming is much much higher. On top of that Sony did state that A-mount is targeted at Pro’s. One more reason why not A58II
I’d like to see a DSLR styled E-mount, a6000 focusing system, built in screwdrive motor in body for a removable but moulded to match LA-EA1/3 with screw-drive pass through included in the box so that entry-level users can seamlessly integrate their older A-mount glass with their new mirrorless body.
I’m probably dreaming here but just in case any Sony engineers are reading and looking for ideas…
You don’t dream but it is irritating to always see new A and E mount camera and never know which camera you should buy .
Sony should to make a true ergonomic camera like CANIKON pro dslr with native E-A mount where you can move the sensor position for distance between the lens and the sensor. I think they can do it and it can help for adjust AF. The only dificult thing is to make native E-Amount but i already have some simple idea with an thin strong ring. In sony i trust.
Ergonomics of my A77 is almost perfect. DSL-R like body with FE bajonet and similiar features would be very appealing to me…
Exactly my thoughts! The a77 is an ergonomic dream!
At the moment the best camera Sony as made until the A99 II will be presented. It’s a pity that Sony neglets A-mount in marketing to push E-mount. And then they wonder why the A-mount is behind E-mount in Sales. E-mount marketing is pushed A-mount marketing is nonexistent.
This is absolutely true! I love my A77!
But why change to E-mount? Is something wrong in A-mount build?
A-Mount doesnt exactly inspire confidence right now. One of the reasons why i’m not upgrading to A77ii yet
Only because Sony want us to migrate to a changed diameter mount to sale us the same set of lenses a second time. I upgrade a lense when I feel my picts would benefit from it, not because the mount as changed over night for the simple fact to artificialy boost the sales.
E-mount cameras are very versatile (any lens works on them), but what you don’t hear often is the reverse issue: e-mount lenses lock you into e-mount cameras because their flange distance is so short that no other camera can take them.
I also own an A77 and also some m43 video cameras (Black magic, Pannasonic). Cool thing is that all my alpha mount lenses work with all my cameras. That just would not happen with e-mount lenses.
You can use your MFT lenses on E mount though lol
I don’t have any MFT lenses. I have SAL1650, SAL35F18, Tamron 70-300 and Minolta MC Rokkor 58/1.4 converted to A-Mount.
And all this mounts on A65.
Nice try being sarcastic.
@genotypewriter, please disregard the reply above. For some reason it was a reply to me.
It wasn’t sarcasm. There really are such adapters although usability is a different matter.
Great. Now let’s ask Metabones to make an electronic adaptor.
For me, I don’t like the E-Mount lens selection, E-Mount egronomics and AF in mediocre light. Sure, it is good in high contrast situations, but in cases when my A65 would instantly achieve AF lock, A7 was hunting a bit before it would achieve AF lock. And to think that A65 has an entry level A-Mount AF system….
flange distance is irrelevant. E mount FL allows to mount m43 and NX lenses but no electronic adapter exists and likely never be.
Sure, but a lot of that depends on whether or not you are prepared to have a thick correction lens in the adapter (that will typically also change focal length, and will always affect overall aberration) so that any lens you use will end up being as good as a kit lens at best… or whether you will go no further than an adapter with nothing in it but fresh air.
Flange distance is what decides between the two types of adapter, so is definitely relevant.
Because the only suitably pro a-mount at the moment is the a77 II. The a99 is prosumer at best with cripples AF, poor iso performance and a weak buffer. The a77II addresses all this but it is only apsc.
In addition the new FE glass is better then the legacy a-mount glass. There are some very nice lenses in a-mount but none of the primes approach the 55 f1.8 and a lot of their best glass (135 f1.8, etc) is screw drive. Puke. No thanks.
FE, although it has nasty autofocus that is sub-pro and needs a better EVF, articulating screen still is leading the way for FULL FRAME. Compact lenses, high customizability of functions, dedicated dials for the three exposure functions (although I think having to press a button now on the new a7ii to change iso is a sucky decision).
Really right now for pro work, from a sensor perespective only the FE are the pro line. They have the highest resolution, the lowest light functionality and even when the same sensors are compared the FE system performs better.
Shame about their poor AF cabailities but.. the writing is on the wall. My only hope is that Sony at some point brings out a dual mount body. I would love to be able to use the f2.8 zooms as f4 is only useful under certain conditions and often requires external light.
But then I could use the best primes (combo of Sigma and Sony Zeiss FE), some legacy glass and the good a-mount lenses (F2.8 zooms)
“FE, although it has nasty autofocus that is sub-pro…”
Yeah god forbid if we have to touch the focus ring or if a still subject makes a good photo.
So to improve lenses you habe to change mount diameter ? Or is it more a strategy to mix up the market and create needs for new lenses to sale it as tiny option. Now I see a lot ask for a A77 II with E-mount – what would that mean? The end evolution of E-mount is to be identical to A-mount but for the small diameter which is danger to prduce vignetting? Why reduce the mount size when the barrel keeps the same? Oh yes their is a reason – to save the critical 2 screws to speed up assembly which BTW make the mount weaker ( it was not designed for pro stuff – plastic!? – inthe first place) .:-)
To be fair you are comparing a second gen SLT a77-2) to a first gen one (a99). I agree with your AF and speed assessment of the latter though. Although, ISO performance on the a99 is still better than the a77-2 from my brief testing of it.
Why am i banned when even my predictions have proven accurate?
Looks like i’m not now. And regards the holographic ideas… and the near constant prejudice that goes unabated all the while. How many of my objective posts will even be allowed…
Thats a Global Microsoft (Forbes Lists #2 World’s Most Valuable Brands) rumour under my belt already. And of course the whole Sony still/video thing.
Who exactly are you?
This is SharpShooter. I have checked the photo collection here, is it really JUST a few hundred shots?
So really what you’re saying is that the seamless gutter system in the eprice network is defending the unilateral expansion of the Sony E-mount market by redefining the consumer brand awareness of bridge camera systems and allowing outside markets additional share of premium video systems in the traditional 35mm camera realm by allowing output previously unavailable on contemporary camera systems and lens/camera systems?
APSC is dead soon and a few cheap and well optimized prime lenses won’t save it even for serious video shooting which is to this point precluded on 35mm cameras at an affordable price, but wont be very soon, despite everyone’s protestations otherwise. APSC = false economy for anyone even so interested as to be looking here and actually having a camera and shooting.
APS-C is death soon, You are a troll, ain’t you. There are much more people sticking to APS-C than to FF, many even do not want FF . You should never forget that the market is not targeting Pros, they are marginal crowd and will remain it. The same counts to pixel peeping, the A7S has shown that pixels are not that important, people, including Pros, seek facilities, high ISO ability.
There is anyway a market for every camera type and sensor. 75% of the whole market do not seek the IQ we get today by all kind of cameras. Most pictures on this planet are taken by cellphones which are compressing the small point & shoot camera market to almost nuts and thus many companies will reduce this activity, Sony as first.
Smaller size and good IQ has advantages, and even if E mount can take FF, no FF e-mount camera is as small as an a-6000 just to take one, and unless Sony does A-6000 FF, it won’t. But, let’s not forget that there are not only advantages on smaller cameras. Any attempts to shoot good handheld Makro shots with any E camera will make up to 60% nuts, and here you need a body with size and weight. I shoot 1.5 seconds handheld clean with any heavy DSLR,, but start failing to get clean shots at speeds lower than a half second with any e-mount or similar cameras. Here, only stabilizing and super fast lenses can remedy this situation, it’s fault being the light weight. It’s like competition shooting with guns, you need weight for a quiet hand.
So on the end, there should be a camera for all purposes, and thus we will also see in the future DSLR’s. If all companies will switch over to mirrorless, some, like Nikon and Canon will remain on DSLR market as there major activity with some trends to make those for the grand public use smaller, and here Canon has shown that they can.
I welcome a new A-3000 style body, but please, no higher pixel count, a new, better 20 mpix sensor which is a huge sensor, a less pixeled sensor is welcome too, and better LED Panel and a more serious EVF quality that allows correct manual focusing as well. A few more customizable buttons are welcome too. Let’s thus see what will come out soon in this matter?
35mm sensor renders TRULY better image quality if that even matters to you or anyone in their photography, if that is what you are even talking about. I know photography and understand it deeply, that is what matters most of all. There are many matters that are not addressed on these cameras, If i have the one we are talking of i can address those matters directly, however sometimes i really do wish i was involved in making them as i understand how the makers must feel with having to meet peoples arbitrary objections and requirements. Ultimately, i would make a photographers camera…You aren’t even talking about such a camera so we must agree to disagree with what constitutes that camera and not confuse matters further on that. Unless you really want to talk about what would make a camera objectively easier to manual focus for instance, and not just endless relativity and subjectivity revolving around some diatribe about ‘consumer level or economic politotrolling truths’ in a pointless reduction like ‘ fewer pixels not more’. There have only been more since that stupid idea got preached no?
Are you going to have a mental breakdown and delete all your posts again, just asking.
I didn’t delete them, all my recent posts were deleted no matter what they contained. I deleted the old ones as those are my ideas suited to my future content sites if they aren’t going to be respected as such and considered as objective. But you didn’t help did you. PolitoTROLL. Notice recent Microsoft announcement of HoloLens as a new standard of interface for Windows 10.
Tou·ché
Barry…that you?
Real photographer…not some politotroll who says they shot wall mounted images displayed in the first walmart. Who argues over the finer points of getting a higher resolution image of a moving subject than can be made with a given resolution by well…saying that any other option is arbitrary..a bit like that real idiot who doesn’t understand that ‘event’
”Event (synchronization primitive), a type of synchronization mechanism”
and ‘i shoot ‘events’ pro’ don’t mean the same thing.
Shooting photography IS an event itself and i would make it thus: theatrical as it were and staged with suitable lighting arrangements for best image recording with the surrounding context of course, not roving round like some drunken uncle jumping on unsuspecting guests with a kilogram of camera and a few kilograms of lens around my neck to become the next famous paparazzi shooter.
Brilliant! Simply Brilliant!
Finally someone with a brain comes back
🙂
As a landscape photographer, I don’t care if it is a-mount or e-mount. Give me a 36mp full frame with a fully articulated LCD and weather sealing, and I’m in!
What about 14 bit color ? That would seem to be a #1 priority for a ‘landscape photographer’.
The smaller the better for me. I prefer the form factor of the a6000 over the a7.
Smaller is better, but more importantly lighter. That’s why I traded my beastly Canon 5DmkII for an A7r. If Sony makes its cameras bigger and heavier (like they did with A7II) the benefit over DSLRs becomes less significant.
Unless the added bulk contributes significantly to durability. No way is an A7r going to take the same beating as a 5d.
You don’t understand physics, lol
An object with more mass is going to accelerate to the ground when dropped at the same rate an object with less mass will, however the more mass an object has the faster it’s terminal velocity when falling is. However, unless dropped from a significant height neither the a7r or 5d it will reach terminal velocity, more likely they’ll hit the ground at the same speed. That said dropping isn’t the only thing that can cause damage to a camera, and the more bulk a camera has generally speaking the more plastic/metal there is to absorb damage and prevent the important internals from getting damaged.
The implication from your response is that an object with less mass will be more durable than an object with less mass but let’s use this example. Drop an iPhone and a 7d from 10 feet in the air. The iphone will most likely break but there won’t be anything more than just cosmetic scuffs on the 7d. And guess what? the 7d has significantly more bulk and mass than an iphone.
Like I said there’s no way an a7r is going to take the same beating as a 5diii or even a 7d. And, im more than fine with the A7 getting a little bulkier and heavier if it means the internals are better protected. A camera is a tool and if it can’t take a serious beating then you can’t expect to get serious work done with it.
So let’s review:
you – [x] rekt [ ] not rekt
As usual here i am to refine the point to something relevant…i thought a bit about how those Canon cams have that shell which can absorb shocks which is probably why they are so big in the first place, i am not sure about the security of the inner electronic parts compared to Sony though. However, i have JUST thought of how a stiff Sony camera could have a smaller size nonetheless and take greater shocks, by having shock absorbing material around it, perhaps underneath a thinner floating shell. This material absorbs 94.7% of impact shock for instance: It also damps vibrations.
I would suggest that the outer shell can be replaced and take even sharp edged punishment but still have to buckle up for the shock dampening to work, and the camera need not be heavier at all 🙂
It would be so futuristic if the Sony cams had hexagonal and specially designed plate armor XD
http://www.sorbothane.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/shock-absorbing-material-chart.jpg
Instead of half cases, it will be selectable camera armor XD
I wholeheartedly agree–not with you Andrea–but with some of the commenters here. If Sony ends up making the A9 in a DSLR form factor that will automatically cancel my interest in it. I don’t understand the sentiment from people. I am 6’7″ and have hands the size of Wilt Chamberlains and I have no problem shooting 2000+ shots / day with the ergonomics of my A7R.
Frankly, I was disappointed that the form factor changed as much as it did with the A7II, and it has considerably dampened my interest in any possible A7Rii or A7Sii coming down the pipeline (I, like a lot of people, see it as a no-brainer that Sony will implement IBIS in the next iterations of those cameras, and thus it would follow that the new form factor would be similar as well.)
The ergonomics seem to be highly improved on the a7II. Even if the minor thickness increase bothers you, it seems to be an insignificant trade-off for the benefit of IBIS.
Inbody sensor stabilizer, even in lens stabilizer is nothing to what the future Sony cameras hold for us…I imagine the future Sony cams will have exoskeletal stabilizers that we wear XD
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/2a/Hybrid_Assistive_Limb.jpg/640px-Hybrid_Assistive_Limb.jpg
You won’t even have to ‘zoom’ with your own feet or even energy anymore XD
What the helll did I just read.
Sharpshooter in camo. Simply ignore.
Yeah, ignore the master who is easily ‘proven’ wrong on a real vulnerability through webchat..Your relationship with me is completely ****** JUST now. You already said too much it seems, one night and i worked i out.
Is that you, Tyler?
http://www.movierentalsportland.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/20-fight-club-screen.jpg
flag is disqus profile, get him kicked off for good this time, it is for his own good.
Because he is real..yeah that makes perfect politotrollsense.
Stop patronizing, say something useful or leave
Something said by a photographer.
Sharpshooter is back.
I should clarify, I don’t mind the increase in body thickness and overall weight to accommodate the IBIS… Are you kidding? To gain 2-4 stops of usable handheld shutter speed? I’ll take that extra overall body thickness any day.
No, my comment is directed 100% towards the additional girth in the grip, the change in shutter release position, and sony’s decision to go cheap on the dials. Apologies to anyone carrying around tele zooms on their A7’s, that ergonomic “improvement” was surely made on your behalf and I’m sure many of you lot appreciate it… but it came at the expense of countless others who preferred the previous grip. I was actually hoping that sony’s industrial designers would figure out a way to make the camera less lumpy overall (by perhaps making the EVF hump protude less) and they went and added lumps to the camera! Harrumph. Oh well, I’ll probably still buy the A7Sii when it comes out 🙂 unless Sony does what I think many of us are wishing they will do and make the A9 a pro Alpha E-mount mirrorless camera incorporating the best parts of A7, A7R, A7S & A7II into one camera! 18-24MP, IBIS, Dynamic Range & Low Light capabilities of the A7S, no AA-Filter, silent shutter (global shutter and they can have all my money) GPS, better than 5fps etc…
I have not held one yet, but early reviewers seem pleased with the shutter button placement in the a7II. I don’t love the shutter orientation on the original but it didn’t irritate me either.
But it’s not like the a7ii is less portable or convenient than the a7, it may be slightly thicker and heavier, but it also has much better ergonomics.
Agree..if A9 return the form to DSLR type. I would go back with Nikon instead..
Agreed. I would avoid the a9 if it is too big
I think the A7II form factor is just the right balance.
Have you tried the A7II? how big is the difference?
Would love to see something like a77ii in e mount. I love my a7r but would also love to own a a77ii type camera that I could mount my e mount lenses on
Good signs, this could possibly mean Sony will release f2.8 zooms for FE/E mount cameras.
That would be great! Add A-Mount sized versions of every camera and i’ll be looking to switch to E-Mount for my next camera. DSLR style A7 III with a 24-70/2.8 Zeiss would be great.
I wonder if you can change the ‘perspective’ of a hologram? another first from SS XD
Sign this petition:
https://www.change.org/p/kazuo-hirai-enable-uncompressed-or-lossless-compression-raw-files-on-the-a7-cameras-and-future-f-e-mount-cameras
I like both design, the SLT and the mirrorless ones. What pisses me off is, that there’s no mirrorless A-mount camera I can use my glass with – and without the light losses because of no translucent mirror.
+1
Its too bad that Sony is sitting on that flip-mirror SLT patent and not materializing it into a body. That was 2009, when Sony patented the design. What happened?
take the pelicle out from an old one. Trust me, its not that much difference.. you get a click or so more on any dial, but any photo that would have been unusable because of noise on an SLT will still have been unusable on any other competing APS-C. Get DxO prime if noise is an issue
Hmm a big e mount camera to use with bigger lenses, like telephoto…
Oh the the old beer can is 2cm shorter than the fe70200f4
Which kinda equals out the size of a short flange e mount.
Quite a few Tele lenses have the rear optic quite far forward too
I’m so sick of the whiny “smaller is better” horse shiiiit. It’s reasoning from the utter pits of helll. I’ve done enough all day events and every FREAKING TIME I reach for the bigger gun. It feels better in the hand. It settles better on the tripod, I have less issues with the bigger glass. My thumb doesn’t cramp up like the A7. I don’t have to squeeze my hands together with the itsy bitsy camera when I’m running and gunning.
Sure, when I’m by myself dilling around I grab the A7 or M43 for a spin around town. Take it wherever nice and light. But not all situations make that work. I still believe the A77 is the perfect balance of ergonomics over all of Sony’s cameras. A7II hints at the future of FE mount. Bigger is better because it’s essential when you start using real freaking lenses.
Are you saying 35/2.8 and 55/1.8 are false lenses?
Nope. They are awesome lenses. I’m just saying that the whole “It’s getting to big” or “DSLR’s are to heavy” is just absolutely rediculous.
“small” A7 is larger than some of FF film SLRs
1.4 crop film SLR and 2.0 crop modern mirrorless:
True. I have that exact camera on the left. I don’t care for the friction grip and have a thumb grip on top to make up for it. Which is why next time I’ll just go bigger. Sexy film camera on the right though….looks nicey nice.
Yeah..lets see a photo of that camera beside your ‘Sony’ Bontempi organ. Or not, because you don’t exist and are not even a photographer ghost. All in all you have been really helpful.
You’re welcome.
That exposure is well..fantastic! Now can we see the full size image so we know we aren’t talking JUST about ‘internet’ photography. No, because its composed of internet images XD Whereas i can shoot a 36MP image with low aberration and NO photoshopping 😀
This image was taken with an EPL1. It’s not meant to be technical.
Technically you didn’t shoot it and don’t use these cameras so i guess that’s ok, seeing as you aren’t a real photographer poster or even persons identity.
Stop patronizing, say something useful or Ieave
Lay the crack pipe down and step away from your mom’s computer.
You can’t edit metadata..are you sure you are even a politotroll?
”Yes… I’d like to see how long CH would go if they decided to insult gays or blacks. Freedom of speech,lol”
? anyone else notice the politotroll demographic didn’t have anything nice to say about CERTAIN ‘asian’ countries and their people. Does CH have any history of ‘insulting’ gays such as yourself: no offense? What about Russia anyway? or do you keep quiet about that one because you like to use your understanding of the language to best effect in your politotrolling with no personal or ‘associates’ consequence? Hint: they have to communicate implicitly without I.M. because that would be traceable 😀 and that’s why one politotroll can’t answer for another very easily.
‘Film’ is still thinner than digital sensors and full colour real time displays..sadly…maybe a Sony A7 without LCD could be as thin while still having an EVF…
Who are you talking to?
…I, personally, can say some nice things about Islamic countries: they have much less problems with alcoholism and HIV infection.
Someone made up and duplistic such as yourself, but whose image have you taken?
Question is, does your friend from Indonesia..even live there…I am Totally REAL, why should i even have to contend with all your totally false declarations. Because i am serious about photography? or should i not, because i seriously HATE politics or rather politicotrolling. You all know this as i have become your greatest detractor of all.
Sharpshooter you are so awesome, in support of all that awesome ‘you’ I suggest we all vote on your flag.
Are you lying down in that avatar image? Its not square and has distortion or something…Do you have any other such images of yourself? like one? I mean, you use your avatar as validity for your ‘ideas’ but have you another you can show to actually prove said validity?
No you don’t, or rather as a politicotroll you never prove anything at all worth proving.
Welcome back sharpshooter, is this your new name now?
Yes, It is for the moment, i’m so wrapped up in tricky web stuff JUST now you wouldn’t believe! XD
Pop quiz:
Which market is larger and more lucrative… people buying cameras to go “dilling around / taking for a spin around town” or people shooting all day events?
I’d wager that there’s a lot more money to be made making high resolution full frame camera bodies for Japanese tourists and dentists who are tired of lugging around D800e’s than there is making high resolution full frame camera bodies to satisfy professionals in a dying profession. They’ll probably buy one to go dilling around with after a long day with their Mk IIIs anyway.
I know this. But guess what…it’s not FF. My brother lives in Japan and tells me it’s all Olympus and Fuji. They want tinie tiny small. Then again, they want everything small. Small dog, small purse, small house and small camera. What’s my point? I don’t have one except that I suggest FASHIONABLE CONSUMPTION is more a factor as to the small camera craze then functionality. Just don’t try to make others assuming it’s something else….alls I’m sayin.
Weight. Quality. Usability. Function. Aesthetic.
Troll somewhere useful. Instead of JUST problematizing my life.
Smaller lenses to match are surely counter weighted well, and beyond medium telephoto and with heavy lenses you can surely add weight easier than take it away.
End of pointless irrelative discussion.
“Lighter with better ergonomics is better” happy now? 🙂
Actually I like the inertia of a 70-200 on a 1Dx.
Well I see in future an A-mount clone with a smaller mount. They will tell you it had to be done for sake of modernity the truth is : get ride of mirrors, lences, ergonomics – it has to be small even smaller- silence – so no Amount left ? Now let’s go back to old school design because bigger is the right size, it’s new, it’s modern, it’s the future. They can do everything with A-mount if they are willing, but at the moment they create a mirrorless market so they can sale more new stuff in E-mount because we have to due to the change of mount.
To all A-mounters…. welcome to 5D MK4. 🙂
100k b.c: “Ok guys, we had this “Fire” thing so far, and it was good, but let’s go back to eating raw meat and grass!”
Just what we need another body to make sure EVERYBODY is confused, not just Sony.
Do my hands go smaler? nope..so this theme smaler should realy a part of 1inch sensor-cams,
and a glance would be a fixed f1,8 lense..there the game goes-nice-and 299,- bargains.
Here wie have APS-C and the chance Sony put a bit of the big mama in it. If this thing only works as bad as an Fs-100 filmimage it is big. All in rusty Pastic and horrible back-monitor.
(if Sony would stop its idiotique ” porduce plenty bodies for all classe-we would see only 2)
but.. if i could remote this thing ( and houses on a Manfrotto/ good Lense in Front) it is a fine
B-roll/ Crash-cam. The problem, if only 50% of codec and 4k 2015 Sensor of A7000 is in it-
you will not get more tahn the wobley big briks..) and this is, what pushes you to….. Samsung?
waht happens if ( NX-1—> NX500—->) model number 3 is 349,- lowcost 4k aps-c folksbulli, and
makes it fine? I would say nomboy will think about Sony from 0-600,-$ but they do..
Makreting of Big Masspiles of Waste.
So a 249,- A5000 would do it.. And in Times of ADAPTERS..
who will first stop this oldfashion ans think MULTIMOUND-adapting?
kikstarter ore kikkass-starter?
No thinkang yur right wif yur analisatin. The godfring PLASTIC is not wat yu say.
And abot Samsung -WHY YOU like MOUNT NX if yu sey 80% is not ?
Sony has to realize that E-mount is selling because of their mirrorless cameras. They should ignore the DSLR crowd and stick with what they do right.
I definetely would prefer a small A mount camera (mirrorless or SLT – doesn’t matter). Let’s say a60 or something like that…
I picked up a very well priced a6000 and I like it, but it is so small that I am having a hard time holding it. There is barely any space between the lens and my fingers.
I have decided to take it back and get a refund. I will wait for the update to the a3000 (I own one. I am not sold on thinner and small is better. I prefer the small dslr body of the 3000) hoping that it will have wifi, faster focus. I don’t mind the low resolution efv and LCD. Only reviewers make a big deal out of those things. Picture and movie quality matters, not low resolution evf.
The problem about democratic freedom in the Internet…everyone believes that he/she is an expert on everything.
Just look at this article. It is about a rumor on the update on the a3000. Look at most of the comments…very little on the a3000 but a lot about what every pseudo engineer here wants to have.
People! Stay on task! The democracy of the Internet have not made you smarter, just have given you the freedom to show you are not.