I don’t know where Engadget has taken all those rumored specs, but they certainly are the same we posted here weeks ago 😉
24 megapixel, AF fine-tuning capabilities, improved Bionz processor (obvious), support of CF, SD and Memory Stick memory card, battery for 1,000 photos
But they added a few new info:
1) 1080p/30fps, 720p/60fps and 720p/30fps high-definition video
2) Price (I guess body only) $900-1200 (Close to the [shoplink 5117]Canon 60D[/shoplink])
3) Vario-Sonnar T * DT 16-50mm F2.8 prime lens SSM (THAT WOULD BE AWESOME!). A shorter zoom range but constant aperture perfect for videoshooting but more expensive that the [shoplink 5586]Zeiss 16-80mm f/3.5-4.5[/shoplink]?
Let’s hope the specs are correct!
Zeiss 16-80mm price check: [shopcountry 5586]
Canon 60D price check: [shopcountry 5117]
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That lens reminds me of that patented 16-80 lens with constant 2.8 aperture from 16 to 50 and 3.5 from 50 to 80. Maybe they used this patented solution to offer new kit lens(which they said they’ll offer, but don’t think it will be zeiss, more probably G) and maybe shortly after that they’ll announce 16-80/2.8-3.5 but this time zeiss, as a successor to the original 16-80.
This would make more sens.
Sony announced there will be no DT Zeiss lens anymore isn’t it?
I agree, that was a SR5 a while back. It’s highly improbable that this will be a Zeis DT lens, maybe a G lens or another easy choice lens (althoug it might be SAM then). The rumor marks the lens as a DT version so its doubtable that it might be FF, would be to close to the 16-35 ZA anyway.
I agree, that was a SR5 a while back. It’s highly improbable that this will be a Zeis DT lens, maybe a G lens or another easy choice lens (althoug it might be SAM then). The rumor marks the lens as a DT version so its doubtable that it might be FF, would be to close to the 16-35 ZA anyway.
Here is the link
http://www.sonyalpharumors.com/sr5-all-future-zeiss-lenses-will-be-fullframe-3-4-new-zeiss-lenses-within-18-months/
Full frame lens?
I’d be pretty keen on a full frame Zeiss 16-50/2.8. Unlikely to happen, though.
sounds very logical to market a hi-end DT Zeiss standard zoom.. how much would the lens be? Under USD700 would be great!! 🙂
16-50mm F2.8 prime lens? It is a zoom lens!
To Edgars: It does not mean prime lens. Prime means here prime product for prime money.
It makes sense to release new 16-50mm DT zoom because what other Sony zoom lens with similar range can take advantage of 24M pixel APS-C sensor? None. All Sony high quality zooms are optimized for FF. They are big, heavy, very expensive with zoom range better for FF then for APS-C.
Also the clear body prototype clearly shows there is NO CF card slot. So that is incorrect right there. Also it is possible that a 1x-5x/2.8 is in the works, but probably a “regular” non-G/ZA model I guess.
Wohoho! This would be an awesome lens! Though I doubt it’s true – Sony told that there won’t be any DT Zeiss lenses anymore. Maybe it’s G lens??? I really hope it’s gonna be the SSM lens, cause I was kinda disappointed seeing the mockup of it with all characteristic signs of SAM wngine instead.
Let’s see how things go – it aint’t long till the release after all.
ISO100,000 !
$1200 would mean charity pure and simple. Very doubtful.
$1200 may not be unreasonable, remember the SLT design is inherently less expensive to manufacture compared with a standard DSLR.
Is there a possibility that this lens will be available for E-mount? NEX roadmap has G-zoom for 2012… That would be awesome!
so what about that zeiss will not make anymore aps-c lenses claim?
thats probably just a recycled rumor originated from here
and, by looking at this picture from CP+ and you’ll know the a77 won’t support CF:
http://dc.watch.impress.co.jp/img/dcw/docs/425/844/html/06.jpg.html
SD and Memory Stick only
myGod, no 24p, no 1080p60, no ExmorR, no cheap lens, no fixing over heat filming, no no no….
“myGod, no 24p, no 1080p60, no ExmorR, no cheap lens, no fixing over heat filming, no no no…”
how did you figure this out? The body is about two times bigger, likely metal and will be able to cool itself well
ExmorR??? how did you figure this? iso 200k for me is actually better news then the branding on the sensor
About movie modes…let us see what is going to be in there. IMHO control of aperture and speed during video is more interesting than 24p or 1080p60
Looks like decent cameras. We will have to see what happens with NEX too. If they somehow make AF on NEX very very fast and fix few design issues like flash support …why buy SLT
I am pesimistic person ><" talking about fixing those issue in Nex, I knew every manufacturer like to left at least one two weak point remains. they are clever because they are business man 😀
It will be a big disappointment if the A77 doesn’t support CF cards. I’m hoping that the final production version will support CF. We have only seen mock ups and prototypes so far (and yes I realise that at this, hopefully, late stage any major changes are unlikely), so those of us with a stack of CF cards can still hope.
16-50 f2.8 Zeiss would be great.
I’ll continue to ‘wait and see’ before making any final judgement.
A 16-50mm lens? What’s that supposed to be good for?
In the old days, the 24-105 was the ideal walkaround lens as it covers everything from wide angle to portrait tele. In APS-C terms, this would be equivalent to a 16-70mm lens. The 16-80mm is the perfect replacement in the APS-C world, but one ending at 50? Mostly useless.
If the quality would be great than I’d pick -50 lens over -80mm anytime day and night. 80mm isn’t a focal I use much in zoom lenses anyway, most shots come from standard to wide angle, while 50mm on APS-C is 75mm eq. which is fair for poirtrait too, in last case.
I guess 16-80mm/2.8 is feasible to produce but it would be more bulky, and expensive.. i just think of a lens similar to the size of 2470/2.8ZA.. market may not accept a DT standard zoom lens costs $1200..
Except the lens, the rest is a collection of old rumors, all of them already published here and on other sites. The price is nothing else than an extrapolation of current price for Canon 60D . This has already been told by a Sony official. The question only is if is the current street price of Canon 60D or the introduction manufacturers price for 60D.
The video specs are also old, from last year, I expect 1080p60 also, after the release of a few Sony compacts with this resolution. Another old rumor is triple card support (including CF). This is also not true, as the transparent prototype does not have enough door space for CF). The camera will have SDXC and MS support only.
I think the kit lens spec is also more a “wish” circulated on forums,than a reality. I would say the all article is just copy-paste with no new real info about the camera.
It is unbelievable that A77 level camera could be without CF slot. Even fastest SDXC cards is at least 2-3x slower than CF. How to manage 10-15 fps 24Mpix with such a slow cards?
New memory standard? Sony, Sandisk and Nikon work on this for several months already since the announcement, possibly it’ll be ready till the A77 release.
“New memory standard?” : More precise: New CF memory specs/standard.
BTW: How said, that the shown “translucent” prototype is a copy of the final a77?
The new CF standard was just proposed, a few months ago.It takes 2-3 years to be finalized and maybe aproved and probably another year after that to get first devices using it. The standard is not targeting consumer products, but PRO cameras (in fact PRO camcorders) which are using proprietary and very expensive solid state devices.
It was announced on November to be precise and they already had full working specifications of the standard by the time that they proposed to CFA (agency responsible for CF standard). They did not started to develop it so that it’d take 2-3 years yet. Possibly all there’s missing is a signature of a CFA guys 😉
From what I know there is no camera on the market which can take continous 10-15 fps and save it in the flash, and I doubt that A77 will be the first one to do this. You take high fps untill you fill the RAM , after that you need to wait for the buffer to clean. It’s not only the flash it’s the interface which writes to it also. Anyway this “feature” is not going to be used by most customers, and I don’t think you are going to see it on any camera except real PRO ones (maybe) I mean 10K+ cameras.
The transparent prototype is not a mock-up but a real preproduction prototype (you can see the electronics inside), just before the mold is done, so I’m sure if there is no space for CF on it it will not be on the final camera also. You may have CF support on the next gen FF cameras but I would not bet on it.
Well, you can see the A55 in mid-range that shoots 10fps easily – something totally beyond the reason a year ago. If you’d tell people that they’ll be able to buy 10FPS 16MPx camera for the price of 830$ with the lens – they’d laugh you till the death.
So I say – let’s wait. Sony has shown lot of surprises recently and 700-line is known of creating technological breakthroughs so hopefully we’ll get very very nice camera with some surprises. 🙂
The 16-50mm F2.8 is a lens sony needs to fill in someday. Canon & nikon have it. Alpha user have to go for third party 1750 F2.8 lens from Tamron/ Sigma. So I wish and expect the new kit lens to be this range. But will it be Zeiss? I quite doubt it… I’ll b surprise & Happy if it is true.
no way the Zeiss 16-50 is going to be that cheap, look at how much Canon and Nikon version is? ~$1k US. both with no IS/VR for comparison.
$600-700 is like top end sigma (OS) price
I can tell you all that the camera. Shown is most certainly NOT the real A77. Even the translucent mirror’s been Photoshopped in.
Trust me on this: the clear camera ain’t the real thing.
“Even the translucent mirror’s been Photoshopped in.” – the mockup shown at CP+ actually did have real translucent mirror.
The only way Zeiss intruduces a 16-50mm is if they phase out the 16-35mm. The price for the latter is $1899. So, I can’t see that 16-50mm being all that much cheaper.
The 16-50 is a DT lens so it’s for APS-C whereas the 16-35 is for FF. Simples!
It a DT lens (for crop sensors – way smaller than if it were made for FF), while CZ16-35 F2.8 is a Full Frame lens- hence the cost and size
Having handled D7000 – I admit that Nikon did a wonderful job on it – huge view finder,amazing ergonomics and easy controls make it a speed monster, very nice indeed – ease of use only matched by my A850. Sony – try to keep up! EVF maybe very cool, but such big Optical Prisms used on FF models are hard to beat
I hope the a77 comes out soon. A price of $900-$1200 body is right in the ballpark for me. In these hard financial times it is good news that slt tech is cheaper to manufactor. I just wish it would come out tomorrow. As an a700 user I’ve been waiting for that fix (a77) since I heard the rumors about a year ago. A kit lens with f/2.8 is something that interests me as well. All I can do is keep waiting and saving more money. Sony stop teasing us and just release the camera already. Thanks.
Just a quick question:
How well does a EFV work in dark conditions. Will you be able to see stars on the night sky, or will it just be grainy mess?
It’s a laggy grainy mess. Actually if it’s still on a tripod it should be fine but any movement in low light and it looks bad. I have an a33 so I’m not just saying it to hate on the evf. I’ll probably even upgrade to the a77 if it offers more video options.
The a33 takes awesome video and that’s what I primarily use it for but it doesn’t come close to the ovf on my a900. I know, I know I’m comparing an entry level a33 to a pro level a900 but as of now I just don’t see an evf working well on a FF pro level camera.