I am very confident we will soon get a new RX camera with curved sensor and 35mm f/1.8 Zeiss lens. But according to an anonymous (and new source) there could be a second RX FF camera with a zoom lens and “classic” non curved sensor. He says the new RX2 will feature the same A7r 36 MP sensor and have a 35-70mm f/2.8 compact zoom lens.
Like I said, this is a new source so take it with a grain of salt. As a side note: Sony itself said it’s very difficult to design zoom lenses for a curved sensor so that could be the reason why such a camera still uses the normal flat sensor.
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Probably fake. It still doesn’t sound that exciting. I’d still take the. 35 1.8 with curved sensor if it had a built in Evf and fast af .
This!
Yes, the fast prime and curved sensor sensor would be my first choice.
I am after this design, I believe that this concept is more universal than RX1 concept. I wouldn’t consider to buy RX1 or RX1C but RX2 looks much better (I am using quite frequently 2.7-3.5/35-70mm CZJ lens with my A7. It is great lens for A7).
Sounds fake. It should be a 16-24 zoom.
Why do you think that Vlad? Wouldn’t a 16-24mm be quite a strange focal lenght for a fixed lens camera? I think it would be a little bit on the bigger side..
yes, it’s going to be big because Sony engineers obviously would reuse SLR designs to keep Marco happy.
You are my stalker Dmitry 🙂
No, I think a 35-70mm f2.8 could be really interesting, but I can’t imagine how the handling of that camera could be.
At the same time I would never guess about a wide angle version as Vlad suggested.
It might be a landscaper dream though.
What makes you think it would be different from handling of RX1?
(I, however, do agree 16-24 FOV is somewhat silly for a fixed lens camera)
Let’s consider first that we’re just speculating about a rumor.
I think the miracle RX1 is a tiny powerhouse.
Now, if Sony can also squeeze a bright and costant aperture zoom in a small lens, then there’s another miracle.
Looking at Sony and Zeiss zooms for the a7 system, I would be surprised to see it, even considering the fixed lens advantage.
So, back to your question, while a RX1 can be held easily with one hand if in a hurry (I know that most cameras should be used with two hands, but my RicohGR doesn’t want to.. 😉 ) I think that a small body with a big and quite heavy lens would somehow defect the “nature” of the RX1 serie.
I see the zoom lens on RXnn, and a fixed focal lenght lens on the RXn, leaving the RXnnn to the most compact segment.
In my opinion I would see a wider angle fixed focal lenght camera, and a narrower one in the near future (as Sigma with its Merrils and Quattros).
Just joking, as I am more interested in wider options. 35-70 actually sounds pretty nice.
16-24 for a compact FF?
I wouldn’t be surprised if this camera has an EFCS to differentiate it from the A7R.
uhm, Cybershots have LEAF shutters.
This RX2 with 35-70 lens sounds interesting.
If it gets a quicker AF and XAVC recording option they get my money.
I would love the camera but hate the rumor as I have just bought a RX1. But I also think it’s a fake, 35-70 f/2.8 would be a big lens which doesn’t seem to make sense on the small RX…
Most people wouldn’t believe f/1.8-2.8 on 1″ sensor could be pocketable, either (before RX100-series).
RX1 isn’t small, so a 35-70/2.8 could be quite probable there. Don’t forget they have advantage of having no focal plane shutter.
Well the smallest comparable FF zoom lens I know would me the Leica Tri-Elmar MATE. A wonderful lens 28-35-50mm but only f/4 and manual.
Building a small lens for a 1″ yes, building a FF lens way smaller than Leica (an expert in small lenses with 100 yrs of experience), no I don’t think so…
The only way I see this happening is with a smaller sensor, probably APS-C?
Leica M lenses still provide space for focal plane shutter and moreover, have to supply rangefinder coupling, thus ruling out many of possible designs. Only for a fixed lens camera, designers have luxury to change other parameters to make lens as small as possible.
Nowhere the rumor says RX2 is going to be small. Remember, every troll used to say RX1 is large.
Sure but instead of the slightly smaller shutter and the missing Rangefinder coupling they squeeze in the AF electronic…
I have a RX1 and it is small, yet the lens is way bigger than my Summicron 35mm which is also an f/2 (and as far as I know the RX1 lens extrudes into the Body as well).
So taking all this into consideration, I don’t think they would manage to create a 35-70mm F/4 the same size then the MATE, but a 35-70mm in f/2.8 no way, I am confinced it is a fake (and very positively surprised if I am wrong…)
Agreed. This is so fake. Why anyone would think for a second this rumor is in any way plausible is beyond me.
The RX-X does not have to be a small camera. The RX100 series was small, the RX1 was small for FF, but the RX10 with the fast zoom is not small. A RX-X FF zoom could be in a larger body with a larger lens.
I stand by what I said. I don’t see a camera with these specs being made by Sony.
We are talking about zooms. For primes, rangefinder coupling isn’t that difficult, but it is for zooms like your mentioned 28-50 (one of reasons SLRs overtaken rangefinders that zooms are easier to build)
If you take a look at large FE 24-70/4, you’ll see it has a lot of air gaps in it and if it was made collapsible, it would be round RX1 in size.
The 24-70 f/4 is huge and f/4 only. Take a look at the mate, not much air in there (http://www.stevehuffphoto.com/tag/tri-elmar) and again we talk about f/4. In order to get a 70 mm f2.8 lens the entry pupil needs a certain size, the zoom also needs size, the AF electronics need size… There is a reason why the SAL 2470 is about 1kg of glass.
And finally there would be the price, leica stopped to produce the MATE because they couldn’t produce it profitable. So I guess if sony beats physics (what I don’t believe), the have the second challenge to do that at a reasonable price or do you think there is a big market for a €7k + camera…
You are deliberately ignoring that SAL2470 has much wider FOV than speculated 35-70 and is made for system with slapping mirror and shutter.
Leica’s problems are Leica’s problems. If you think Leica offerings are somehow representative of “physics”,.then “physics” has been already broken — Sony’s mirrorless cameras have same IQ as Leica T and their price is a fraction of T.
No I am not, you started to mention the 24-70 f/4 I was refering to a 28-50 (shorter focal length on the long end!). But I indeed think that Leicas lenses represent the rules of physics (as do Sony and all other lenses).
As you certainly know the rule f=k/D applies for all of them, so the 35-70 has to have a larger entry pupil than a 28-50 in particular if the 35-70 is f/2.4 while the 28-50 is only f/4. Do the math!
Finally well the T, yes if you only look at the sensor the Image Quality of a Nex or A7x will be equal or better (no wonder as the sensor is rumored to come from Sony). But the issue with Sony is always the same, great cameras but a lack of great lenses (there are some great ones, particularly for their A Mount). So if you take the Leica lenses on the T and a typical Sony lens on a Nex I am not so sure about who wins the IQ battle (but to be honest I don’t know as I don’t have a T).
Anyway coming back to the rumored Sony RX-Whatever, if you are so certain let’s bet on it. How about I buy you the camera if Sony launches it at Photokina (FF, RX Format, 35-70 f/2.8). If after Photokina we don’t see such a camera you buy me a Tri-Elmar MATE (Second Version 11625, A or A/B). Sounds like a fair deal, what do you think?
35-70 f2.8 sound a bit of an odd range but it neatly matches the range of my dslr primes so, my dslr in my pocket: yey!
35-70 was a common zoom range, but was phased out in favor of 24-70.
Depending on how much bigger it would be, a zooming RX1/2 would be very interesting. Would eliminate the two gripes I have with cameras like the RX1, Fuji X100s, Ricoh GR and such – limited portrait capabilities and no way to compress the perspective in landscape shots. 35-70mm sounds very exciting. I would take it, even if it has a constant max aperture of F4.
I can just imagine if this is confirmed how everyone will be like “I’m waiting for a rx2 mk ii with a wider and faster lens” and continue to shoot with their iphones
Damn right.
They should just stop wanking with their future thoughts and use what’s available today.
I don’t remember anyone saying: “That’s an amazing camera at an amazing price! but, I will wait for the cheaper 16mp version with improved AF and screen in a couple of years time” when the original Canon 5D was made.
Maybe it’s a sign of the times and the younger ones have little patience but want to have all the gear with no idea.
@Hendrick the Elder
No… they’re just ignorant 🙂
RX20
1 inch 20mp BIS CMOS sensor.
4K internal
24-200mm f2.8 zoom
wider and faster AF just like the a6000
Thank you Sony!
I’d like to see Slog as well.
Why is there no Camera with fixed “step-zoom” as the Leica Mate… 28mm-35mm-50mm.. Prime like perfomance in each focal lenght and no need to change any lens.. This would be the perfect camera for me.
Maybe because Sony marketing couldn’t swing it. Sony is not Leica so odd-perceived design features would be hard to swallow to the broader customer audience:
1) Stepped zoom. While this design guarantees great performance at 3 – in the case of the Tri-Elmar – key focal lengths, you cannot be in between at say 30, 40, 45…etc. Most people would just not dig this idea.
2) f4 and OSS. I cannot recall anyone reaching a consensus/conclusion on this but I would imagine that OSS would need to be part of the zoom for an RX (premium) camera of which its zoom lens aperture starts at f4.
It has to be compact, so collapsible is a choice. All of these modern elements, however (AF, OSS, collapsible, zoom) are fraught with potential compromises between cost/marketability and size relative to the body in question.
It would be great, for those who do not care for neither AF nor stepless zoom and OSS as lens and as a tool…but Sony would have a hard time selling it at a potential RX1 launch price (or maybe even higher since it will be a ZOOM)
Because it doesn’t improve optical performance in any way. 28-35-50 is to make rangefinder coupling easier.
They had to make it stepped because the range finders didn’t have bright frames for the in between focal lengths. Otherwise Tri-Elmars are also zooms… just with a mechanical limitation on the selection. Don’t swallow marketing and fan boy propaganda so much 😉
Minolta made a ‘gearbox zoom’ 40-80mm f2.8 with prime like performance (for the time). They are a collectors piece now (nearly landed one myself for a measly $100). But that was a considerably bigger lens. On the other hand the Minolta 35-70mm f4 is a tiny lens, if they could make something like that but with the benefits of being fixed lens and a lot smaller it is entirely possible.
Not so long ago I suggested a lens of this exact specs as a good option for an f2.8 zoom for FE, considering a 24-70mm would be too big and supposedly the current one is too slow. Less ambitious ranges would be a good way to go for this, such as 20-35mm f2.8, 35-70mm f2.8 and 70-140mm f2.8… But then everyone cried about each lens not being wide enough nor long enough… I guess this is why we got what we got.
mmmmm
Collapsible zoom?
That lens would be far more appealing than any of the current zooms sony offers for their e mount cameras. Would love to see a camera like this with the A7s sensor and video capabilities. Anyway, doubt this camera is gonna happen. If the lens was f4 it might be more believable.
When most scream “fake” , “not possible” … This will have the most “WOW” factor if Sony does make it. a 36mp a7r sensor with a 35-70 f2.8 zoom would be a Huge “WOW” , and maybe will be the most popular RX1 series camera , if small enough. As a RX1 shooter , this new zoom would be my choice.
It would have to be about the same size as the A7+Zeiss 24-70/4, if not bigger than that. Would that still wow you and make it your camera of choice?
Gosh I’m so glad the experts are in the house…
it does’nt has to be same size, 24-70 has more range, although less aperture but its an interchangeable system and that makes a big difference
Adam, It all depends on the Size of course. 🙂
If I had to guess, the smart thing for Sony to do is try to make it “close” to the size of the current RX1 35mm f2 … and f2.8 is the slowest lens it should be. On the other = make the Low Light f1.8 Curved Sensor Version – “Smaller”.
I always hoped Sony would release a RX1-type camera with a fixed 50 mm lens – but 35-70 sounds very nice, too. If it’s not too large, which is quite difficult to imagine with FF and f2.8 …
A fixed 50 w/OSs on a curved sensor would have me get rid of most of my current kit. If it had a smooth aperture ring and a real focus ring, I would sell everything I have and stick to that.
Me, too! I would probably only keep a minimal m43 kit with 2 zooms for wide angle and tele usage but use the 50 mm RX 95% of the time.
Please sony make RX2 fixed 35mm F/1.8 with hot shoe, wide lens conventer, internal pop up viewfinder, and swivel tilt LCD
For the love of god make this far more useful camera than the RX1.
If this is made , you will have a A7(whatever) as a second body with a 24mm and 85-100mm prime and you’re done…
A 24-70 f/2.8 would be fantastic, but would likely be large, no?
I hope they do a built in or pop up EVF instead of making it a very expensive add on and weather seal it. For many, this could be the only camera you ever need. I read recently that the brilliant Steve McCurry favors one body and a 24-70. It works for him! 🙂
A slower zoom could also be interesting, but not as much of a slam dunk unless they can really miniaturize it. Sony has been doing some amazing hardware. It seems like anything is possible. Maybe even a touch screen! 😉
Please don’t bring Steve McCurry into this. Steve McCurry can walk around with a D800 and 24-70 hanging from his neck and shoot people from a 4 feet distance more unobstrsively than I can shoot a generic tourist picture of a bridge with my iphone. It’s so annoying how no one seems to notice him.
It must be that big handle he uses attached to the tripod socket. I wonder what brand of handle he uses to get those shots! 😉
No way that’s real, at least as stated. FF 2.8 zooms aren’t compact. Maybe if the curved sensor comes into play they could make it work as a smaller lens, but with the A7r sensor it’s just not going to happen. Look at the FE 24-70/F4. It’s going to have to be bigger than that.
No It really doesn’t have to be bigger than that. Why do you assume because it is f2.8 that it will have to be bigger? So many experts on here…
It could be collapsible, into the camera body.
35-70mm f/2.8 is plausible as a fixed lens design. Sure, it won’t be as compact as the RX-1, but it doesn’t need to be very large with the right design choices. External focusing is one option, i.e. lens extend while focusing. Very interesting to see if this rumor is true.
I’m hoping to hear of a new and improved sensor (besides the curved one) at photokina, the 36 megapixel is getting old.
old in the heads of rumor site nerds but not in the real world.
Keep in mind this is digital CMOS technology, and it’s almost two years old. Were not talking camera body or lens here, two completely different technologies than CMOS. An update is due, hopefully soon.
If not at Photokina, likely to be announced soon after.
Really, being by far the best FF sensor every made isn’t good enough? It’s already approaching MF levels of detail and color. ISO is amazing. Most people and styles of photography can’t maximize the performance it already has. It sounds like if your getting bad shots with that sensor you need to upgrade your technique.
If the RX2 adapts a zoom lens, it will likely be a very short zoom range. This will keep image quality up and size down. 35-70 sounds too big for this application unless Sony can pull a rabbit out of the hat. This should be interesting, but what’s important is to produce something that no one else can. Sony is good at this.
Yes, and it will drive the trolls crazy.
It may sound big because of the the numbers but actually it’s only a 2x zoom. The RX100 has a fast 3x zoom and the RX10 a fast 8x zoom, still compact. I guess a fast 2x zoom should not be a big problem on a fixed lens camera with all the new lens welding technology Sony and Zeiss have.
To me the it sound very plausible and I’d be very interested in that camera!
But the RX100 and RX10 are SMALL sensors. A large sensor needs a large lens. Look at the recent Sigma 18-35/1.8. It’s only a 2X lens, only for APS-C, and it’s HUGE.
And? Look at the 24-105mm and it’s tiny. Look at the 100-200mm, also tiny for the focal length. Sorry but you chose one zoom to support your argument. 35-70mm f4 again tiny. 24-50mm tiny… need I go on?
None of those lenses are all that compact, and none of them are constant 2.8 zooms!!! Wider aperture makes for much bigger lenses. So take the 35-70 f4 as a starting point — Double the size, and you have the smallest possible 35-70/2.8.
Compare the Minolta 70-210F4 beercan with the Minolta 80-200/2.8 — The change from F4 to 2.8 accompanies a doubling of the size of the lens.
So take the 35-70 F4, a reasonable but not miniscule 255 grams… double that, and you get a lens much much too big for a compact camera.
You’re right about the beercan; although not a small, lens it fits in a bicycle handlebar pack with a full frame body attached. That’s why I will never sell it.
They are for a retrofocus DSLR lens. They don’t have to be ‘double the size’. Do you know anything about optics? What is the diameter difference between 70mm f4 and 70mm f2.8? Because that will give you a starting point of how wide a lens has to be and it ain’t double.
The diameter multiplier is sqrt(2) between two stops. The area of the circle is constant * diameter * diameter, which means double. And we didn’t even consider the 3rd dimension.
1 stop difference always means doubling. If you double the the area of the front element of the lens, the diameter grows by sqrt(2) = 1.41. That’s why f/2.8 is followed by f/4. That’s double the area.
The third dimension is roughly fixed and altered by FL, not aperture. We are talking about a max 17.5mm entrance pupil vs a 25mm. This is an circumference of 55mm vs 78mm. This is an area of 86mm and 123mm respectively. In which dimension is that double?
Oh you mean for two stops, yeah f2.8 to f4 is not two stops.
Also, have a look at the front element of the FE35, double that and you will get the size of what this zoom would ‘have’ to be.
A voigtlander 35mm f1.4 is the same x/y dimensions that this lens would need to be.
In terms of z which is largely controlled by FL, yes it is going to be longer, but this is not to say it can’t retract inside the body to an extent. The sensor is right at the rear on the RX1, so there is quite a bit of room in the body. They could quite easily make a 35-70mm f2.8 that is about the size, or not much bigger than the 35mm f2 is.
Bogus. Not happening. The lens would have to be massive. It couldn’t be that much smaller than the Sony 16-50/2.8. Look at the Sigma 18-35/1.8 — Which is a 2x lens for APS-C sensors. Now imagine what a 2X fast lens for full frame would look like. Unless Sony has found a way to change the rules of physics, it isn’t happening.
Sorry but what physics are you actually talking about?
N=f/D: N is the calculated maximum aperture, f is the focal length and D is the diameter of the entrance pupil. This ratio must be maintained.
You didn’t do the math, do you?
for 18-35/1.8, max entrance pupil is 19.5 mm; for 35-70/2.8 it is 25 mm. everyone would be happy if the lens was as big as that.
Moreover, this equation doesn’t say anything about lens length.
Not completely accurate because both of those lenses have to be retro-focus designs. A 35-70 on the RX would not have to be and that may be one reason the wide end is 35mm instead of 28 or 24mm. 35 to 70 may also be so it will work with a non-flat sensor. It would not be a small lens, but does not have to have the volume of the 16-50 or 24-70 f/2.8 lenses. 70/2.8 is only 24mm, so the lens does not have to be massive to accommodate that maximum aperture. My 135mm f/2.8 manual focus lens has a max aperture of 48mm in a body 61mm in diameter. Granted you have to get the auto-focus and extra elements for zoom in the package, but doable if you are willing to let the body size grow some.
f/1.8 lens for APS-C has to be heavier than FF f/2.8 lens, not the reverse. Remember focal reducer concept (Speed Booster, etc.)
Shouldn’t the lens be 28-50 for RX’s purpose?
I’d take 35-70mm over 28-50mm any day.
Why so ? Any particular reason ?
i wold go for both anyway, but think about that a pocketable camera is more made for street and close rang shots, and here a 28 – 50 would do better. You can shoot 35 with that zoom anyway. I shoot 95% of all my shots in a range between 18 and 24 mm in APS-C, what is 28 to 35 mm. Actually the old 24/2.8 mm prime from Minolta is my standard lens on the NEX-7, works like dream and not a trace of CA, razor sharp, but a bit sensitive to adjust in MF.
That’s what I was thinking. Keeping within the purpose keeps the size down.
It should. That would be a perfect range for me. These are supposed to be small cameras. Size does matter!
Sony should now move onto small curved OLED Displays, the tech is already there, yet for camera applications nobody has even mentioned it.
Here is a pocketable full frame camera with retracting (slow) 35-70mm lens. Have a look at a GR, or a TC-1, or a Contax T3 for how small a full frame lens can be on a fixed lens camera. Those showing the great ‘examples’ of how big a lens like this would have to be – show me an example of a 28mm or 35mm or 35-70mm or whatever for an SLR that is as small these. Then tell me how big it will ‘have’ to be:
http://www.kenrockwell.com/leica/minilux-zoom.htm
That’s a slow lens — 3.5-6.5 aperture or something like that. Please, go ahead — Find a *compact* 2.8 zoom full frame lens — It doesn’t exist.
they exist, but no in AF. What makes them big is the wider aperture, zoom, and the AF system. Look at Leica and Voigtlaender, you find super fast prime lenses in pancake format, but no AF. For me, an RX2 with MF could do the job, i focus faster manually and no need to use such a pocketable camera for sports and fast following of subjects. Leica’s rangefinder cameras are all MF, and they sell good.
Huh! Another Leica fanboy. What’s with everyone quoting Leica today?
Whatever, I just hope they would ditch the orange ring, It looks returded.
I love the orange ring. Makes it look modern.
they could offer a choice of colors, or make interchangeable rings, would be more exciting.
The orange ring indicates a full frame sensor, nothing “returded” about that.
the orange ring and the blue zeiss logo = premium quality baby!
Would you prefer a pink ring?
That pink ring is going firmly onto your finger.
Sorry, Walter. It was supposed to be a joke because I seriously assumed that you were joking.
If you don’t like that orange ring put a cheap black tape, paint It with help of a little can with black paint and a bit of thinner (as I did with my film metallic Canon) or if you want something fancy glue it an Italian leather.
Whatever, I don’t understand why a color in the camera is more important than, I don’t know, the lack of an evf.
This rumor would be more believable if the sensor isn’t rumored to be full frame 36mp. The form factor for such a combination would ultimately be as big or bigger than the rx10.
Nah. It can be smaller and certainly lighter.
Any info about EVF? I don’t want to hear about any 76mp, or crooked sensor kitsch. Just give me the basics and let me get started.
Andrea, can you ask your trusty old sources if the RX2 has an EVF, so I can wait until Photokina instead of buying another Leica?
A 28-70 f2.8 would be perfect! And an EVF is essential! Well, and the AF of the Alpha6000 would be icing on the cake!
Sounds like Sony is going to try to come out with something to compete with the Panasonic LX8 and the other M43 4K Cameras coming out soon if they release a zoom lens version of the RX2. I bet Panasonic will have as good if not better image quality for half the price of the RX2 Though.
Note to Panasonic fanboi, the RX2 will have a FULL FRAME SENSOR, therefore no competition between the two will exist. The RX2 image quality will be in another league, far beyond the pathetic M43.
One more of the FF Gods has spoken, hugh.
Bahahahaha! Someone is FINALLY going to bring something out to compete with the Rx100 and you really think Sony is the one looking for ways to compete? Sad little troll.
this could be the biggest mistake. zoom is not good for elite camera like that. they already have cheap rx100. zoom is shit.
If RX2 has EVF and AF as fast as my 5D Mk II, I’ll buy it without thinking twice.
A6000 autofocus, silent shutter of 7s, internal 4k video, new video codec, EVF then I would be very interested
say right away that they should pack the 7S in the smaller body.
No you haven’t. You have been taking the pics out of the A7S since it came out, saying it was a rehashed D700 sensor over and over and over again. Yeah, we remember.
How small and fiddly do you want your camera to be? The A7S is already tiny. Once you added an EVF, the RX1 wouldn’t much smaller anyway.
If they made an RX2 with EVF and the 10 mpix sensor, they can keep the zoom at smaller size, with a normal 3.5 to 5.6 range. Super fast lens is not a need for that sensor anyway. Could become an interesting camera. Anyway, nothing is opposed to make different models with different sensors. What is a burden in that camera is it’s actual slow AF and too high price only.
10MP? From the same guy who bashed the A7S for ‘only’ being 12MP?
Well fixed zoom lens for me must contain 35mm, 24mm for short range, and 70mm for long range. And we arent getting a 24-70mm because of physics. Anything less than that and id take a foot zoom prime 99 times out of 100.
A silent shutter is important!
Arg, curved sensor with optimized lens for it is great and revolutionary. But another traditional fixed lens and camera combo, then give as the lens for the A7 instead!!! The RX1 was a great test baloon for FF, but now the 35mm f2.0 would be a fantastic lens addition to the A7 line that is missing now. So now I’d rather have more fantastic e-mount lenses available than fixed lens FF cameras.. (with the obvious exception of curved sensor cameras).
If the RX2 has a decent AF, I will buy it in a heartbeat (the RX1 loses many pics because it focuses too slow and inaccurately). If it has the retractable EVF and high ISO, I will rejoice. If Sony ruins the DOF and stellar image quality by giving it a 2.8 zoom lens, they will burn in hell.
So they finally solved the issues with the curved Sensor? The last thing i heard was that lenses are not able to easily use an Curved sensor as the distance differs from the edge to the center.
How have they been able to solve the problem that on a curved Sensor, the pixels can not have the same size over the whole range and so start to distord?
Wait… this is just a rumor, this wont happen anyway like every other rumor on this page nearly never happens.
The Rumors are going to be slightly more correct 4-8 hours before the official announcement from Sony. I can wait those 4-8 hours easily.
just add a viewfinder and a dedicated ISO dial more like the Fuji XT1 that would make it worth $2700 for me
this sounds like EXACTLY the camera i’ve been looking for: compact, full frame, fixed zoom lens. finally. i’ve been looking for something that would give me the same sort of experience i get with my Ricoh GR, but with full frame + the flexibility of a zoom. if i can afford this camera i will totally buy it.
wow we must be long lost twins or sth, thats totally what i was gonna say! i too have the ricoh gr and love it to bits for its sheer awesomeness, and it in turn was my step-up from the nex-5n. now for my pro option id be absolutely stoked to see that rx2 + fast zeiss zoom lens, hope it comes soon!!!