UPDATE: That rumor comes from an external website. There is no way I can check if the rumor is correct or not. But I can guarantee the specs of the A77 I posted from my sources are almost certainly correct 😉
Inside the latest Sony consumer repair guide the A77 camera is listed (It costs $359 to repair it?).
A reminder. Tose are the specs of the camera we found through our sources:
The A77 is coming in mid July
Shipment start early October
Coming with new kit lens (A Sony 16-50mm zoom. Compared to the [shoplink 5586]Zeiss 16-80mm f/3.5-4.5[/shoplink] it will have a constant aperture and probably have a bit higher price. Zeiss 16-80mm price check at [shopcountry 5586].)
24 Megapixels (The combination of the new sensor+new Zeiss lens delivers 62% more resolution than the [shoplink 3617]A55 16 Megapixel sensor[/shoplink].)
1080p/30fps, 720p/60fps and 720p/30fps high-definition video
AF fine-tuning capabilities. A source told us that it has an improved focusing system (quite fast and accurate).
3 Million dot OLED viewfinder (more than double of the resolution fo the current [shoplink 3617]Sony A55/33[/shoplink] viewfinder.)
magnesium alloy
According to our sources it will be a little bit more expensive than the 60D. Canon 60D price check at [shopcountry 5117]
It will take CF
No flip-up mode to allow shooting without this extra sheet of glass in place
1.000 pictures with one battery
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So “constant aperture” means you´re not sure it´ll be f/2.8 or f/4?? If the former, it won´t be cheap, that´s for sure.
And while I love the idea of a 3 Mp VF, I also love the flip-out LCD of the 60D, and the fixed LCD on the A77 is telling me “Shitty video capabilities… again”. I´d really like to be wrong…
Looking at the photos of the transparent mock-up (http://www.photographyblog.com/news/transparent_sony_a77_hands-on/), I’d say the screen will be articulated, with the hinges on the bottom – like on the A55.
You´re right, those pics clearly show a flip-out screen (although it seems to be the worst kind, the ones opening to the side, ala 60D, GH2, are far more useable, IMO). It´s the old model the one that clearly didn´t have an articulated LCD, so let´s hope it´ll be there (Perhaps Mr. Admin could clarify this… )
And I do hope it´s a f/2.8, I´m just saying a “kit” with a f/2.8 is unheard of, and knowing Sony prices for “luxury” items, it smells like real money, to me…
And like someone else said down there, manual controls for video are essential for me, too. As much as I may like the camera, I very much doubt I´ll be buying one if they don´t allow me the same kind of creative control as the Canons/GHx, at minimum.
Some sales guy told me at a consumer electronics expo last year, when I was asking why the hinges are on the bottom, that Canon has a patent on flip-out screens that have hinges on the side and that Sony wanted to avoid paying Canon for using their design so they came up with this.
I have no idea if this is true but, looking at Sony’s camera designs, it would certainly make sense.
I don´t know either, but that sounds like BS, to me. Canon, Panasonic and now Nikon have the “good” design. Even if it was true, if both Panasonic and Nikon are paying for that “patent” (that I doubt) I would expect Sony to do the same thing, given that the competition is doing it, and the feature is obviously better.
BTW, I´m new to this website, but I´m kind of missing the Admin´s voice. He should be the one knowing better, and I´m not reading him much. Where are you Mr. Admin? ;>)
It’s disputed that side flip like Canon and GH2 is “good”. It sticks to the side and is awkward to use. The Sony’s tilt version can be used as waist level viewfinder. The side flip can’t.
At long last, some kind of evidence that a77 will see the light?
I used to work for wolf camera and that text along with that side “digital clean and check” box looks like the repair guide from wolf camera. haha. however, i guess it could be from anywhere.
Andario, whatever the constant aperture is, if you buy it with the camera as a package, you will get a deal I guess. I will love if it is f/2.8 🙂
The new mockup pictures posted a couple of months ago didn’t seem that the video capabilities were taken of the table. At least the pics showed the possibility of a redisigned frontal microphone (where the flash should be), and the existence of hindges on the side of the LCD, indicating that it has some sort of movement. i really hope you’re wrong Andario! And I want 25fps option! I want this thing to compete with the 5d, not the 60D.
It mean nothing, we din see new nex model printed there right.
Hell, first claim =60D$, now exp> 60D$, limited stock >>60D$ =.=|
I would imagine that the 16-50mm f/2.8 would be priced a little above the Zeiss 1680z. The 28-75mm f/2.8 retails around $800 new, which $50 more than the 1680z. Unless it’s a G lens, it should be around $800. That isn’t cheap.
It doesn’t have fill up mirror function, not the screen. I would not by another alpha without it, very useful feature
In term of still image resolution/quality, it will not compete with the d60 neither the 5d mark II.
It will probably compete with a Canon 5D mark 3, which will hardly be more than 28mp.
The big question is:
“Will it have manual video controls?”
I do not think so…
It had better have manual video controls!!! No limitations please!! Also we need dual card slots that can send low def copies from one card to an ipad for review and high def jpgs on the other card for jpg shooters (along with the other usual options for raw to one-jpg to another, overflow, or 1:1 backups. If it does these things, I will go with Sony anstead of staying with Canon – had Canon since 1975!
Someone says the Osama death photo is falsified. This photo look the same, added , duplicated A and 7 twice 😀
If the Sony 16-50 f2.8 is real, then the price would surely be on par with Canon and Nikon’s 17-55 f2.8. 🙂
Yes, it is probably a fake.
If there is the a77 on that list, why isn’t the a35 be there as well?
And if the a33 and a55 are on two different lines of the list, why the a77 has not its own line?
I guess the a33 and the a55 has more similarities than the a55 and the a77 would have.
It smells hoax big time.
admin too easy get cheated 😀 lol…
Hmmmm, I know the guy from Photorumors very well and I trust him. But you may be right, maybe he got a not so correct rumor and I have no chance to check his sources…
Gees…Osama death photo is REAL. another 3 photos leaks. Admin, your rumor might true! 😀
Hey guys! Just wanted to ask you one question. Isn’t 24mp for aps-c sensor is redundant? I mean we are all laughing when they announce smartphones with 15mp. Or this is not the same? I’ve heard that there is a formula to compute maximum resolution for sensor’s size.
You can’t compare the tiny sensor in a mobile phone with an APS-C sized sensor. 24mpix matters to people who want to crop 😉
Prove me wrong but aps-c sensor is limited about 18mp. Everything that is more is like the same thing with “15mp” on mobile phones.
Well, supposedly point-and-shoot sensors started to fall off in quality around about the 6-megapixel mark, anything higher was introducing more noise than sharpness, and it’s just been a pointless marketing gag ever since.
If that’s the sweet spot, and considering APS-C sensors cover roughly 10x the area, presumably the dropoff would be nearer the 60-megapixel range.
Total silly speculation of course, for once thing I’m comparing CCDs with CMOSs, and I’m sure there’s a mountain of other factors too. But I don’t think we have to worry so much about falling into the same trap as P&S sensors.
For one thing, the DSLR crowd tend to be rather more discerning when it comes to image quality. If a higher MP camera produces demonstrably poorer pictures, it’ll be pointed out in reviews and will probably be avoided.
They just want to give us as little quality as possible. Hiding behind numbers
I am sure that Sony sensor designers know a little bit more about it that you 😉
And certainly more than You 🙂 But engineers are not deciding. Management does.
Yeah, right. They also don’t want to release any firmware updates for a33/55. Instead they are releasing a35. They know how to sell their cameras, lol.
@Milos Janata. I never said that I was an expert in sensors. I was merely pointing out that 24mpix obviously makes sense to the people who actually design and produce them, so lets leave it to the experts.
Management don’t suddenly decide that 24mpix sensors work, that is just a silly statement to make.
I have read something about 8mp being the max where you can actually see a difference for aps-c sized sensors. And increasing pixel count only adds noise. Then there’s those that say that even if it adds noise, with a high enough pixel count, the noise become fine grain.
I don’t know which side is right, but if it’s really that bad to have 24mp aps-c, why did Sony even bother making it?
Indeed. Sony engineers know their stuff, we and the vast majority of people commenting on 24mpix don’t have a clue about sensor design.
It’s not just about the resolution, it’s about the AA filter as well. Some people remove the antialiasing filter in front of the sensor to increase sharpness.
I don’t care about the extra pixels but a downsampled 10 Mpx image from a 20Mpx sensor will in most cases be sharper than a 10Mpx image from a 10Mpx sensor, provided that you’re using sufficient optics.
Look at the improved sharpness (and moire patterns..) when the AA filter is removed:
http://www.maxmax.com/hot_rod_visible.htm
Karl Taylor used to comment in his video, his medium format camera have greater detail compare to his another entry level 12mp dslr. I see the picture. diff so much when in 100% crop
Fake picture 0:) sony alpha A75 😉
Any price info on this kit lens?
Pentax sells its 16-50mm f2.8 for $1029.00 USD so If’s Sony’s a f2.8 then expect to pay that or a bit more.
a 16-50 f2.8 just cost more to make than a 28-75 f2.8
But if its a “kit lens” then it could be a little slower to save $$$, size plus weight!
I know about weight because of my Zeiss 16-35f2.8 and 24-70f2.8 and 135f1.8 Darlings
It would be nice if this new lens was sharp, fast and light too and under $1000
It’s possible :] Tamron SP AF 17-50mm f/2.8 XR DI-II LD for 459$ :]
But do you think they’re going to mate it with a $500+ kit lens? A constant aperture 16-50mm lens is definitely going to be more than $500, which is already pricey for a kit lens, you think? Who knows. 🙂 Would be cool though!
It’ll be a 16-50mm f8 to keep the cost down LOL
no mention of Iso? oh there it is •high ISO of 100,000
that’s going to be hard to beat! Agree about 24p or 25p. At least one of them. Please.
They can specify any ISO figure on the specs, it doesn’t make it usable though. 🙂 Any high ISO figure is likely to be multi-shot noise reduction anyway, pretty useless for most stuff.
The Canon 5D can be bought with the 24-105L, not a cheap lens
Seeing as the A77 is targeting semi-pros and enthusiasts, I don’t think it is entirely unreasonable that it may be included with a quality f/2.8 or f/4 zoom.