DigitalCameraWorld posted the full A7-A7r review and says:
We had very high hopes for Sony’s innovative mirror less full-frame camera, and, for the most part, we haven’t been disappointed. Images are superb, with excellent colours and great detail reproduction – the A7R particularly of course.
Sony A7r is the camera of the year at Soundimagesplus:
It’s the best image quality I’ve ever used and it gives me the closest representation of how I see the world in my photographs. And I don’t have to put in lots of Photoshop hours to achieve that. The Sony engineers could have bespoke designed this cameras output for me, it’s just what I wanted.
There is also a new review at Tobinators:
Nikon Df vs Sony A7 – Zero Noise Reduction and Low Light (Steve Huff).
A7r, the first hour (Outbackphoto).
Sony A7r prueba de campo at Quesabesde.
Reminder: Full interactive documentation available for download (Sony US).
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Specs and Preorders in US and Canada:
Dedicated Sony announcement page at Amazon US (Click here).
Sony A7r body at Amazon, Adorama, BHphoto, SonystoreUS. TheCameraStore Canada.
Sony A7 body at Amazon, Adorama, BHphoto, SonystoreUS. TheCameraStore Canada.
Sony A7 with 28-70mm kit lens at Amazon, Adorama, BHphoto, SonystoreUS. TheCameraStore Canada.
Sony RX10 at Amazon, Adorama, BHphoto, SonystoreUS.
Zeiss 24-70mm at Amazon, Adorama, BHphoto, SonystoreUS.
Zeiss 35mm at Amazon, Adorama, BHphoto, SonystoreUS.
Zeiss 55mm at Amazon, Adorama, BHphoto, SonystoreUS.
70-200mm A-mount at Amazon, Adorama, BHphoto, SonystoreUS.
Sony A-Mount to E-Mount Lens Adapter at Amazon, Adorama, BHphoto.
Sony A to E adapter with mirror at Amazon, Adorama, BHphoto.
A7/A7r leather case at Amazon, Adorama, BHphoto, SonystoreUS.
A7/A7r vertical grip at Amazon, BHphoto, SonystoreUS.
Sony W Series Battery Charger at Amazon, BHphoto.
Sony FA-CS1M Off-Camera Shoe at BHphoto.
Semi-Hard LCD Screen Protector for A7-A7r at Amazon, BHphoto.
Specs and Preorders in Europe:
Sony A7r body at Sony DE, UK, FR, IT, ES, NL, BE, CH, AT, SE, FI, NO, PT, WexUK, WexDE.
Sony A7 body at Sony DE, UK, FR, IT, ES, NL, BE, CH, AT, SE, FI, NO, PT, WexUK, WexDE, Amazon UK, Amazon DE, Amazon FR.
Sony A7 with 28-70mm kit Sony DE, UK, FR, IT, ES, NL, BE, CH, AT, SE, FI, NO, PT, WexUK, WexDE, Amazon UK, Amazon DE, Amazon FR.
Sony RX10 at Sony DE, UK, FR, IT, ES, NL, BE, CH, AT, SE, FI, NO, PT, WexUK, WexDE.
Zeiss 35mm at Sony DE, UK, FR, IT, ES, NL, BE, CH, AT, SE, FI, NO, PT,
Zeiss 55mm at Sony DE, UK, FR, IT, ES, NL, BE, CH, AT, SE, FI, NO, PT
Zeiss 24-70mm at Sony DE, UK, FR, IT, ES, NL, BE, SE, PT
Sony G 28-70mm lens at Sony DE, FR, IT, ES, NL, BE, CH, AT, SE, FI, NO.
Asia:
A7r at Digitalrev.
A7 at Digitalrev, Amazon Cina.
A7 with 28-70mm lens at Digitalrev.
18 Responses
That’s an ok review by DCW. Although they always go out of their way to exaggerate the slightest problem with Sony cameras. They seem to hit their knees and start with 4 1/2 stars review template whenever Canon or Nikon fart a camera. I’ve grown tired of their hypocrisy; they’ll laud the Olympus, Panasonics, Pentaxes, and even some NEXs – but ALL of their example videos and their sample shots for articles are back to Canons. They can’t think to try that water droplet freeze frame shot article (every magazine seems to have to do that twice a year) with an EM1 or GH3 – nope gotta use the 5DMkIII.
Hmmm. Steve Huff’s “low light challenge” (Sony A7 vs Nikon Df) is OOC-jpeg, not based on RAW.
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So, it’s unclear whether the far-superior Df results (not that the Sony is un-usable; but the Df *IS* much better) are from Nikon’s better JPEG engine, or inherent sensor/processor superiority. OTOH, aftermarket RAW/NR software is probably still a bit immature with this brand-new sensor, so even RAW-vs-RAW might not tell the “true” story…
Steve is great and all but his crazy comparisons are just posts that get lots of comments and fanboys biasness.
His comparison already have a few issues and I’m surprised how people can make judgement that easily (of course if it’s in favour of their brand)
I’m surprised he didn’t mount the Nikon lens onto the A7r and the comparison would at least be more fair.
SoundImagePlus does it better in my opinion, check out his comparison with Fuji X-E2 Jpeg
http://soundimageplus.blogspot.com/2013/12/sony-a7r-and-fuji-x-e2-jpgs-compared.html
Steve Huff and SoundImagePlus make great daily blog reading because they complement each other like yin and yang. Literally; Steve wakes up in sunny Arizona every morning bouncing around happy as can be and a “let’s all get along” attitude. David Taylor-Hughes wakes up in dreary England checking the weather hoping for a break in the clouds with some sun and a “like my cameras/photos or don’t, I don’t care, piss off” attitude. I love ’em both.
‘“like my cameras/photos or don’t, I don’t care, piss off” attitude.’
It took me at least five minutes to stop laughing. Really great comment and I shall treasure it.
I find your ” panasonic, maker of electronic shavers” comments while crawling back to the Pannsonic g6 more amusing. I also find the pretentiousness and your wishy washy obsession with buying and selling cameras while complaining about them while taking the most mundane photos with them to be borderline psychotic. I also find your rants about other reviewers and what they’ve said even though you do say the same ignorant sensationalist things, amusing but mostly two faced and hypocritical.
You forget to mention how the soundimage guy rails against other reviewers, only to say the same ginorant things himself. He was gushing so hard when the leica x came it sounded like it was the next best thing since sliced bread. Then in another post, says how at times he’s ashamed to own a leica because of what some leica owner has said about having a leica. Then he’ll whine about a camera he has for weeks, only to sell that one off for a camera he bashed in the past, which will eventually get sold for a new camera, which he will praise and in turn, bash whenever a new Leica comes out. Then he’ll post some comment that Rockwell said and how outrageous it was, only to say and do the same thing he criticized. Followed by another week or so of shooting mundane stock photos, and how only certain cameras can do that sort of job for him, then to declare to the world how he sold off the camera he loved and keep the camera he whined and complained about for weeks. Then he’ll hit the refresh button ans tart again, over and over and over. Watching paint dry is less boring then what goes on at his site, albeit less entertaining. Maybe that’s what his gimmick is, to be a pretentious hypocritical camera trash talker. I guess he has to pay for his new toys in some way or another.
If Steve mount the Nikon lens on A7r (which has similar ISO performance as A7) then the detail will out perform the Df. The A7 had better detail than Df in his comparison. BTW, how often people take shots at ISO 12,800?
Maybe Sony need to produce a 16MP FF sensor to beat the Nikon Df.
Well the reason why the ability to use the same lens would make the comparison more “fair” is due to that even though both lens are shot at f/1.8, the light transmission or tstop is not the same, which if not compensated by the exposure will result in 2 different exposures at the same settings.
But it is a crazy comparison after all and wasn’t meant to be taken seriously, but fanboys will be fanboys.
Hmm, I doubt we’ll ever see a 16mp FF ever again, the new standard will be 24mp FF.
Nikon is basically clearing off stocks of their D4 sensor (a good sensor btw) to make way for the D4s (if I recall, the update should be coming next year)
Why would you need to? Just set your a7R to the low resolution output option. Better yet, down sample in Lightroom. Pretty close to the same results if you do it right. Theoretically, yes, lower resolution could yield slightly better pictures than the same technology sensor with more pixels, downsized.. but the added flexibility and other benefits to having more pixels usually wins out.
The common misconception that it’s a common misconception that more megapixels are better is still pervasive.
When it comes to pure image quality, only two things really make a big difference: Total sensor size, and technology of the sensor. Since some companies produce new sensors that aren’t any better than a sensor from 5 years ago *cough*Canon*cough*, I won’t say newer sensors are better. But better tech sensors are just better. Bigger sensors are just better.
When it comes to usability, focus speed and processing, almost the opposite seems to be true: Smaller sensors, lower pixel count, and better processors tend to be better. This is why many M43s cameras do very well.
Steve may well be a nice guy but his reviews are farcical and not in a good way. He does not even allow any posts that do not agree with his viewpoints.His “review” are not reviews but simply often biased opinions based on inferior testing technique , perhaps he should stick to ghost busting at least the fans of that are far more gullible
Here, here, this is a man who speaks the truth. Steve Huff is no more than a biased shill of some sort. Anyone can clearly see his BS reviews on cameras and lenses always favor the ones he “favors”. Tests with wrong crops, different exposures, different focus areas, all the little tricks to skew the tests to whomever he favors. Anyone who has a differing opinion never gets his comment posted. The who site is full of butt kissing comments. There is nothing real about huff’s “real world reviews”, noting worldy about them either, just a whole lot of Steve.
Camera of the year by the sound-image-plus guy. LMFAO. I love reading that guys crap. It’s hilarius. He goes from callig Panasonic a ” maker of electronic nose trimmers” when describing his love for his new Leica, then goes crawling back to say how good the Pano g6 is. Then he’s whine and complain about a camera in endless posts, only to sell off the ones he’s praised and keep the one he was whining about all along. Then he’ll intermittently bash Ken Rockwell about what sensational and ignorant things he’s said and turn around and do the same thing for his own blog. Then followed by the usual daily posts of the most mundane photos one can see. Then another post bashing Canon, then refresh with complimenting the mirrorless crap he bought, only to be marginalized whenever a new Leica toy ends up in his hands. The most wishy washy back and forth whining pretentious radio camera reviewer on the net you can find. This soundimage guy makes Steve Huff sound unbiased.
Camera of the year by the sound-image-plus guy. LMFAO. I love reading that guys crap. It’s hilarius. He goes from calling Panasonic a ” maker of electronic nose trimmers” when describing his love for his new Leica, then goes crawling back to say how good the Pano g6 is. Then he whines and complains about a camera in endless posts, only to sell off the ones he’s praised and keep the one he was whining about all along. Then he’ll intermittently bash Ken Rockwell about what sensational and ignorant things he’s said and turn around and do the same thing for his own blog. Then followed by the usual daily posts of the most mundane photos one can see. Then another post bashing Canon, then refresh with complimenting the mirrorless crap he bought, only to be marginalized whenever a new Leica toy ends up in his hands. The most wishy washy back and forth whining pretentious camera reviewer on the net you can find. This soundimage guy makes Steve Huff sound unbiased.
These weren’t reviews/conclusion, though.
Just the same shot, at the same settings… no commentary, just shots.
Yeah, maybe the Tstop’s were a touch different… but probably not by much. The shutter/aperture were the same in both, so a significant difference in Tstop should have shown in a a significant difference in exposure. The Sony lens has notable vignette compared to the Nikon lens, but not a huge difference in transmission-value.
What Steve huff likes to do best in his reviews is if you ever pay mild attention to is this. He likes to never use the same crop for his tests, ven though he could and it’s as easy as boiling water. He uses exposure to hide noise and IQ problems, ei, he will leave coarse and noisy problems under exposed to hide the problem and over expose the same areas in another camera/lens sample to show more noise. He will focus in the wrong areas of the same subject when using very large apertures with little dof to show how one is sharper and the other “isn’t”. these little tricks aren’t anything new, but why call them “real world” reviews when they are neither real nor worldly, just his biased opinion? but of course unless you are busy kissing someone his or someone else’s behind on his site, your comment will go no where. You will be deemed “negative” by King Steve himself and banished from the land of Leica.
i read soundimages blog and also hits me as the worst the way its owner speaks about a camera as is the best ever, praise it ad nauseaum to replace the adoration to a new system the next week. i think people should be a little more careful when they talk in public, it is nothing that goes away, specually if you pretend to taken serious in the long run, hard to be with half the internet laughing at you.