This year Photokina was probably the least exciting Photokina ever. And Kai seems to agree with me (see video on top).
Anyway, here is a new roundup of Photokina buzz:
Zeiss Loxia 2/35 Hands-on Photos (Photographyblog).
Zeiss Loxia 2/50 Hands-on Photos (Photographyblog).
Sigma 150-600mm Contemporary Hands-on Photos (Photographyblog).
Loxia Hands-on by DC.watch.
Sony booth at DC.watch.
Zeiss Photokina Presentation (Photographyblog).
Sony FE 28-135 F4 on A7s, Quick hands on test, IBC 2014 Amsterdam (Youtube).
Many images and one video on Lensvid.
PArt one report by Scottlewisphotography.
ony Alpha A5100 First Impressions Review at Photokina by Cameras.Reviewed.
Sony Alpha ILCE-QX1 First Impressions Review by Cameras.Reviewed.
Photokina Tidbits by Admiringlight.
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Sony FE lenses:
Zeiss 16-35mm FE at Amazon, Adorama, BHphoto, Sony Store US.
Zeiss 16-35mm FE in Europe at Sony DE, UK, ES, IT, FR, CH, AT, NL, BE, FI, SE, NO, PT.
28-135mm powerzoom in Europe at Sony DE, UK, ES, IT, FR, CH, AT, NL, BE, FI, SE, NO, PT.
Accessories:
HVL-F32M Flash at Adorama, BHphoto.
HVL-F32M Flash in Europe at Sony DE, IT,
Sony RMT-VP1K Wireless Remote Commander & Receiver Kit at Adorama, BHphoto.
Sony XLR-K2M XLR Adaptor Kit (with microphone) at Adorama, BHphoto.
Sony LCS-PSC7 System Bag (Black) at BHphoto.
Sony FS7:
Sony PXW-FS7 body only at BHphoto (Click here).
Sony PXW-FS7 with 28-135mm lens at BHphoto (Click here).
Sony VCT-FS7 Lightweight Rod Support System for PXW-FS7 at BHphoto (Click here).
Zeiss Loxia:
Zeiss Loxia 50mm f/2 Planar T* Lens for Sony E Mount at BHphoto (Click here) and Adorama (Click here).
Zeiss Loxia 35mm f/2 Biogon T* Lens for Sony E Mount at BHphoto (Click here) and Adorama (Click here).
Zeiss Lens Hood for Loxia 50mm f/2 Planar T* Lens at BHphoto (Click here) and Adorama (Click here).
Zeiss Lens Hood for Loxia 35mm f/2 Biogon T* Lens at BHphoto (Click here) and Adorama (Click here).
Zeiss 52mm Front Lens Cap for Touit and Loxia Lenses at BHphoto (Click here) and Adorama (Click here).
Zeiss De-Click Key for Loxia Lenses (5-Piece Set) at BHphoto (Click here) and Adorama (Click here).
Zeiss Rear Lens Cap for Loxia E-Mount Lenses at BHphoto (Click here) and Adorama (Click here).
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I wouldn’t say boring. There are interesting products from most vendors. However, most are refinements over what’s available like further miniaturization, more res, faster AF etc. No new tech which you would expect from the Photokina. Probably the Japanese manufacturers have agreed on withholding information on next gen tech until all big players are ready.
Thus making it a failure.
At Lease Samsung didn’t hold back. 🙂
Those “camera reviews” guys are kinda lame – they don’t understand the QX1 so they automatically label it a failure.
The last qx series sold thousands and thousands of pieces in the middle east alone, so there is an interest in the cameras, and I for one, cannot stress enough how much I WANT the qx1.
Why would you drink a “Mass” Beer in Cologne?????????? Germany is more than Bavaria, you know 😀
Neded
I hate to imagine their blood alcohol level should either of them succeed in draining those huge glasses of beer. I suspect those measures were designed for robust Bavarians several times their size.
This is their 4th round.
With all the major players ready to announce new tech high res mirrorless systems, it is time to revisit the possibility of 36x36mm mirroress A mount.
Well, Sony has 2 years to build up excitement for the next Photokina. Maybe they’ll get around to releasing a new a-mount product by then and it’ll excite Kai enough to at least mention Sony in his next Photokina wrap-up. ;^)
Sony Cameras may not be around any more.
They have the best scientists and engineers, the best technology and the best cameras…but none of that makes any difference because they have the worst management and marketing.
One by one every one of thier divisions are fsiling for exactly the ssme reason…they are only able to see corporste profits and sre totally blind to the wants and needs of thier current customers.
Currently A mount users are totslly fed up with sony.
They will not switch to E mount and currently A mount users cannot reccomend Sony as a new camera chouce…Sony does not have your back and will not be there when you need them.
Discuss is not letting me log in so I have to post as guest untill the system is working rite.
Sony will dump billions of yen into their failing phone efforts but not a few million into a-mounts. From that perspective of profitability it doesn’t make much sense but Sony is trying to be strategic. They don’t see a consumer giant like Sony surviving without a viable cellphone business. On the other hand, they clearly don’t care about a-mounts.
I think I mentioned I dug up a late 2012 post by Andrea where he was discussing the death of the a-mount (specifically, denying he suggested it). So the topic has be raging at least 2 years. A Sony exec claims to be familiar with this blog but, of course, the death of the a-mount talk extends far outside SAR’s wall. Yet, Sony is content to let the rumors fly. Presumably to herd the a-mount cats to the e-mount.
You would need all new lenses for that. 30mm x 30mm is the maximum square format possible with FF lenses.
No new lenses needed.
Only the extreme cormers would lack coverage easily fixed with firmwared, software, or cropping.
You guys do know that they are in a german restaurant in Hong Kong right?
No, I don’t think so. Most German restaurants have signs in English and Chinese like the one behind Kai’s head. ;^)
I see Sony made a big Photokina splash with the pair of clowns. But wait… ;^)
Mirrorless brings nothing new to the table… there’s not a single picture that you can take with a mirrorless, but cannot take with a DSLR
Initially people were excited, but now they start to realize that it’s just the same thing in a smaller package
And with the increasing availibility of Full Frame, this size difference also becomes negligible, as evidenced by the recent FE releases
There’s as much revolution in A7 getting smaller as in iPhone 6 getting bigger
Meanwhile in DSLR the last exciting stuff was the first SLT in the shape of A55 back in 2010
The photo technology is stagnating, which may not be a bad thing. If they make A99-II with A7S sensor and A77-II AF, I don’t honestly know what else they could add to this camera.
Lok is drinking much faster than Kai.
Apart from this the clowns didn’t even mention Sony, but wait, this might be a good thing!
This is by far the most informative report I have ever seen from Kai ……………….
Video shot in Hong Kong, not Germany.
Worthless!
As are most of Kai’s stupid videos.
Indeed. But he’s the perfect guy for the people who have camera gear as a hobby and not photography itself…
When I started many years ago, It was all about the photo. Today there seem to be more gear collectors than photographers.
Mirrorless brings nothing new to the table… there’s not a single picture that you can take with a mirrorless, but cannot take with a DSLR…
Initially people were excited, but now they start to realize that it’s just the same thing in a smaller package
And with the increasing availibility of Full Frame, this size difference also becomes negligible, as evidenced by the recent FE releases…
There’s as much revolution in A7 getting smaller as in iPhone 6 getting bigger
What?
By the same logic, there’s nothing you can shoot on a dslr body that you can’t shoot on a mirrorless body. Personally, I’m taking Sony’s big FU to a-mount owners as a sign to shift to FE…
After the FU to A mount users why would you switch to anoteher Sony system?
I quess you must be anxious to take it up the A$$ again.
Yeah I should just go for one of those innovative brands like canon that’s been regurgitating the same tired designs for the past 5 years…
Emm… nope. Mirrorless AF vs DSLR blah blah blah action blah blah low light blah blah blah missed shots. This has been written on this forum so many times I even feel lazy to write it again.
Take it you’ve never used an A6000?
This conversation keeps repeating itself
A77-II vs A6000
A camera is a camera is a camera. Gear means very little. Medium format is smaller and easier to use than 4×5, etc. Today ALL cameras are good enough. Some cameras may suite your shooting style better than others. Me, I like mirrorless, but that doesn’t mean that I can’t still use a DSLR (or a film 4×5) to make money.
Nice trolling attempt! Next time you’re allowed to explain us why having a smaller and lighter camera ist of no advantage for the 95% of people who don’t do any sport photography. Complaining about you having more choice for your tools makes you look very insecure as a DSLR user
Camera manufacturer’s have to keep selling us solutions to problems that were solved yesterday. That’s how they stay in business. I feel sorry for Sony though, I don’t think anyone leaving A mount is going over to FE. I know I’ll be heading over to Nikon.
Photokina was so boring that I really have no interest in anything at the moment. So…I wait.
That’s probably why they took out the GPS. Now Canon has it and A77M2 doesn’t. They’ll probably re-introduce it in Mark III.
Meanwhile in DSLR the last exciting stuff was the first SLT in the shape of A55 back in 2010
The photo technology is stagnating, which may not be a bad thing. If they make A99-II with A7S sensor and A77-II AF, I don’t honestly know what else they could add to this camera.
Meanwhile in DSLR the last exciting stuff was the first SLT in the shape of A55 back in 2010
In DSLR the last exciting stuff was the first SLT in the shape of A55
The photo technology is stagnating, which may not be a bad thing. If they make A99-II with A7S sensor and A77-II AF, I don’t honestly know what else they could add to this camera
In DSLR the last exciting stuff was the first SLT in the shape of A55 in 2010
The photo technology is stagnating, which may not be a bad thing. If they make A99-II with A7S sensor and A77-II AF, I don’t honestly know what else they could add to this camera
The last DSLR that brought about something new was the A55 back in 2010
The camera tech is stagnating, which may not be a bad thing. If they make A99M2 with A7S sensor and A77M2 AF, I honestly don’t know what dramatic improvements they could add to such a camera.
I feel for the canon camp. They get 5 year later a big mirror body 7d mkii. Canon really needs to start toying with the idea with full frame mirror less body’s like sony has, it’s the future. I love the internal radio they did with there speedlights, but uhg they keep dropping the ball with there camera bodies.
7D Mark II has 65 cross-type PDAF. It’s the main selling point.
If you suggest that this can be replaced with some sort of mirrorless, you gravely misunderstand the needs of people who buy this type of cameras.
Samsung had more balls than the Canon, Nikon or Sony. Poor 7d mk II people. I hope this a wake up call to the big three.
They sure didn’t seem to notice the Samsung NX-1. To me this is a camera that could up-end the GH4 as the leading 4K video camera, and might beat most other APS-C cameras with its shooting speed and image quality, but they just said Samsung had “a phone.” Sure, they are an under-dog now, but with the NX-1 they seem like they are ready to start being taken seriously, and they certainly are jumping in with some brighter zoom lenses than Sony makes for e-mount.
At one time shows like Photokina were useful to the manufactures, the stores and the consumers. Comdex was a huge computers show, now it is gone. Photokina will soon follow Comdex into history. Most new camera announcements were leaked to the RUMOR blogs. We ALL new what was coming before Photokina opened it’s doors. Photokina is irrelevant.
To be fair, the 35/1.4, 24-240 and 28/2 and announcement was a surprise.
Well, you need the pre-show releases to drum up foot traffic. At the show you pimp the wares hard. From what I can see Canon let people get their hands on their new stuff, take pictures, tied it all to pre-orders. The 7DM2 goes to the top of Amazon. I doubt their 400mm goes high on the charts but it’s expensive and specialized. It definitely got attention though. Sigma at first, from what I can tell, didn’t let people touch their new stuff then all I see is pictures of people holding the new lenses unattached to bodies. No sample photos released. I’m picking up some buzz people are holding fast, waiting to see if stuff like their new 150-600mm is worth pre-ordering. To me, that’s a wasted opportunity.
In the age of the internet maybe these shows are outdated because somebody can do a video review any day of the week, certainly. And I haven’t seen any mainstream press picking Phtokina up so it’s not like it’s a chance to get the wider public’s eye outside of the photo geek crowd. CES, on the other hand, did get some mainstream coverage and is such an opportunity; however, its coverage goes beyond photo gear so there’s a lot of competition for a spot on the 5 minute news segments.
Actually the Canon types aren’t very impressed with the 7DMII. They keep on comparing it to the Sony A77MII, and complaining that the 7DM2 is a complete rip-off.
In the not too distant past there were no leaks, and Photokina still got all the foot traffic. At one time Photokina was a BFD! Today not so much, and tomorrow maybe not at all. Before the internet, you had to wait months for the Photo Magazines to tell you about the new cameras … and there were NO pre-orders.
Pre-Show leaks do drive Amazon Pre-Orders though. And Rumor Blogs do love to talk about who is number one on the Amazon List.
I like Digitalrev. They just bring it on the point and have the balls to have their opinion (which is sometimes different for both of the guys). They prefer different Brands and types of cameras, one is more Photo the other more Video oriented. I find it very entertaining every time.
You have the balls to have opinions and the balls to have a point. I like you.
They weren’t actually in Germany. The signs with Chinese letters gave it away, as well as some cars passing by in the background.
Probably the beer wasn’t real, either. I doubt Kai would still walk upright after drinking a large mug.
If your a Canon or Nikon fanboy like Kai then sure this year Photokina was probably the least exciting Photokina ever.
the reason trade shows arent as exciting is that sites like SAR and constant internet leaks (both intentional and unintentional) suck out the energy for the ‘big reveal’. now, we know well in advance what is coming out and people are just traveling to the shows for the hands-on video.
i’m not complaining. i like SAR; but let’s admit that *we* are the reason consumer tradeshows are not what they used to be. (industry shows like NAB still have a few wow moments but that’s it).
Funny, but not as insightful as Matt Granger’s reviews. He covered everything on the floor in detail and took the time to ask lots of questions. Watch his interview with a Zeiss designer in learning about the Otus 85mm- it was fantastic.
This is not Germany.. Its Hong Kong. I know where this place is..