Preorders:
Sony Alpha a7II (Body Only) for $1,698 at Amazon (Click here), BHphoto (Click here), Adorama (Click here), SonyStore (Click here).
Sony Alpha a7II with FE 28-70mm OSS Lens for $1,998 at Amazon (Click here), BHphoto (Click here), Adorama (Click here), SonyStore (Click here).
Sony 70-300mm f/4.5-5.6 G SSM II Lens for $1,148 at BHphoto (Click here).
DC.watch posted that set of “real life” A7m2 pictures from the presentation in Tokyo. The image on tops shows the A7m more protruding grip (camera below) compared to the current A7. This makes it possible to put the shutter button on the way more comfortable top of the grip. it will also make it easier to hold the camera with larger lenses attached.
All you need to know about the new A7m2 can be found here:
Worldwide only preorder is at Amazon Japan.
Full spec list and videos on SAR.
Full english A7m features list on SAR.
Image samples here on Sony.net.
Click on the images to see the large version:
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Yes, but is it weather proof this time?
I haven’t seen many full frame cameras that are water proof, they are usually water resistant, which the existing A7 series are.
weather, not water
Yes, also weather, but I was replying to the post about the water aspect of it.
Dude, there is no such post.
Very nice, at first sight it looks like Sony was hearing its customers. The small protrusion on the back right side with the deeper grip and shutter positioning is definitively a plus. Very interesting update. Now if only they bothered updating the firmware for the nags us A7/S/R owners have with our cameras.
Weatherproof? Expected price?
Comparing current prices on amazon.jp and amazon.fr for other models, it seems prices on amazon.fr are 50% more expensive than on amazon.jp so currently the mark2 is at 184560 jpy or 1245eur, you add 50% and you come to a price of around 1870eur.
new grip – mo’ money.
Has Sony started fat stacking benjamins yet?
It wasn’t too long ago that many said FF on emount was impossible. Now we have FF and 5X IBIS in emount. Pretty damn impressive Sony! I will appreciate that fact that they were able to accomplish this in a package roughly that of the Olympus m 4/3 OMD em1 before I start complaining what it’s missing. I also like how the shutter button is on top of the grip as it should be.
The size of A7 MII is very very similar to the E-M1, which is the minimum ergo (non toy) size for me. The Olympus’ grip still looks as better ergonomically. Personal exp will be decisive on this
OK 7S MARK 2 PLEASE NEXT !!!!
Excellent job, Sony! The 5-axis sensor stabilization alone is worth the launch. Now, it could have been announced two weeks earlier, since I just bought an A7…!
lucas can you not return it?
I bought it on eBay from a Japan seller and it’s in “mint” condition, but not returnable. Just got home yesterday! That’s OK, though, I’m sure it will be fun to use it now and maybe upgrade next year. One thing Sony should do is to release a FW for the A7 with the software enhancements of the A7II, like the faster AF!
I really like the updated design. But since I only use native E-Mount lenses with OSS on my A7 and image quality hasnt’t improve, there’s no need to buy that one. Another thing is, I don’t want my girlfriend to leave me 😉
But what I really hate about Sony is, that they are provoking people to get gear acquisition syndrome. A month ago I really thought I was cured. Then I started again reading SAR news 😉
Where did you test the image quality?
We could guess that the sensor is the same because if it wasn’t, they would have communicate about a “totally new sensor” even if they had just changed the supplier of the IR filter.
There’s not full press release yet to accompany the specs list and even so, using the same sensor, does not automatically mean same image quality.
It’s true when we are talking about 2 different companies using the same sensor, because they change AA and IR filter, microlenses, and they apply their own raw cooking. But with Sony I’m not used to see dramatic changes between cameras sharing the same sensor… Edit : maybe there will be some change in the jpeg processing, but I can bet that the raw potential will be almost identical.
Pfft, just leave the girl friend then. 😀
HULK wait for 1st sensor wobble SMASH! puny body from inside.
The body appears to consist of more magnesium . More like an A7R (except the dials).
If sony make a7s mark 2 with 5X IBIS and fix blue led issue . They are going to blow all Canon , Panasonic . Smash them , Sony take my money right now !!!! Give me a7s mark 2 !!!!
Thought the blue light thing was just people using the wrong white balance? I edited a party vid with the Blue light spilling everywhere, used it as an editing transition, but damn most of the footage was unuseable.
CaNikon, Oly, etc. are sure to lose market share. Might not be long before we see Sony in the #2 spot!
Hell yeah! New grip looks awesome plus IBIS for the win! Starting to save for that A7s II and Loxia lenses (with hopefully, Internal 4K)
Ok Sony stop teasing me, just give me the a7r2 already!
Now waiting for…
Alpha 7000: 5-axis IBIS, AF faster than A6000, weathersealed, new APS-C chip, Tri-Navi & all other features of NEX7. Would be awesome if one day, PDAF would work on A-mount lenses as well through LA-EA1/3 (or LA-EA5 with motor, without mirror).
Bring it on, Sony!
Apparently A-mount is dead. Four E-mount FF cameras in about a yr. and nothing FF A-mount in over 2 yrs. tell me Sony has lost interest in A-mount.
A-mount is not dead….. new a mount lenses coming too…
I was referring to FF a-mount, they are still working the aps-c cams. but it’s obvious with so many e-mount FF cams that they are changing focus and directing people to e-mount.
so was he. 3 new FF a-mount lenses just announced: 16-35 II, 24-70 II, 70-300 II. stop whining and wait for the cake!
Don t wait for cake, HULK already smashed!
:’D
Hulk smashed A-mount in 5 different axis.
A-FF will comes at soon at possible, the question is does your money ready if next A-FF cost $3000 and packs with ton of features 😀 if we look at Canikon, their fans-boy could drool what sony have done and delivered the astonishing-perfect-superb compact FF while they are not even have chances to hear anything from Canikon about up coming mirrorless FF lol… At least, you have words from Sony “officially” telling you that next A-FF is on “schedule” and to be gonna extremely big leap, 4k internal must be a promise at minimum 😀
be patience 🙂
I thought there was a post here that the A99 was discontinued and that was about 6 months ago? I didn’t see the “official” rumor about the new FF coming.
I think Sony should release one high end APS-C and one FF a-mount. A7x and a9x series. One new camera replacing each series every 3 years is good enough… Like 2011-2014 a77-a77ii. 2012-2015? A99-a99 successor? 3 year streak like Nikon is perfect. No one upgrades their camera every 18 months or so at that level… It’s not a phone haha
The a99 is only 2 years old! It took nikon 3 years to replace the d7000 and d800 to the d7100 and d810.. And how long did it take for canon to replace the 60d and 7d? Lol
People expect too much too soon from Sony…
Yes they do, and when Sony updates the current camera lines they complain that the camera bodies are updated too often. Catch 22 situation.
But in one year’s time, Sony has released more E-mount full frame cameras then they they have released FF A-mount cameras since they bought Minolta!
E-mount is something else. You can’t compare that Sony releases more e-mount than a-mount FF. Remember FF e-mount is something new to the market.. Less than 2.5 years old. The a7ii is only the 2nd generation of FF Mirrorless pretty much.
There is no need to replace a FF a-mount constantly… No one is complaining that the canon 5d mk3 is too old… And that’s older than the a99… LOL.
I honestly think that 3-4 years is a perfect amount of time in between FF a-mount models. All Sony really needs is one FF model for a-mount lol don’t you agree?
All I’m saying is it appears Sony has lost interest in moving forward with A-mount FF and is just maintaining the a-mount for the moment while it tries convert everyone over to e-mount so it can drop the A-mount system and just sell adapters for lenses. By the way, the first Sony E-mount was released in Oct. 2013 so the FF E-mount is just over 1 yr. old.
I don’t think Sony lost interest in the a-mount FF because keep in mind that they have a roadmap for FE lenses to finish and of course want to promote the hype with FF e-mount cameras and FE lenses. Sony announced three new FF a-mount lenses for next year (the year where the planned roadmap for FE lenses ends)
if my guesses are correct, it looks like Sony might have a road map for new a-mount lenses and the new a-mount FF to back up with the lenses once the current FE lens roadmap finishes. (That’s when the hype of FF e-mount settles) Just like what they did with FE lenses and FF e-mount
That sounds better than what I was thinking! 🙂
😉
How old is the 5DM3? Still no signs of refresh there. Is EF dead???? Hahaha
It is now.
A-mount camera future just got a tough knock, but I see a very bright future for a-mount lenses :)!
BTW, new SAL163528GII and SAL247028GII are coming in spring 2015!
http://www.digitalcamera.jp/
They’re G and not Zeiss???
they are ZA e.g. Zeiss, my mistake
Hmm, looking from the top, it looks like the A7 got pregnant …
Hopefully, something good comes out of this ….
It would be great if its a little A5 with NEX7 body and FF sensor and A6000 AF …
One other really useful advantage with the new design is with the grip. The shutter release on the current version is pressed too easily by the heel of the hand, so I leave it off. This would mean I could fully use it, without suffering that problem!
if the price is somewhat around 1200-1400€/$ this will be my first A7
I would say closer to 1800EUR
when taking the price from the amazon preoder and recalculate it 184,560 Yen = 1244,79 Euro
Yes but look at the current prices of the others products Sony A7R etc. if you translates the yen price into eur you will be around 50% below current market prices in Europe. I guess you have to add different taxes etc
But this is supposed to be the unexpensive model… or are they going to continue A7M1 as entry-level?
I doubt it will be that cheap. I expect €1800-2000, and will buy it anyway.
Apparently after thinking awhile, I welcome the update but I am still quite baffled on what the reason why Sony is very determined to release FE bodies very often. I mean are they that popular? Seeing how things are going in terms of ‘normal population popularity’ personally, I only see the a6000 and the a5100 being very popular. The FEs, not so much. People still prefer Canikon gears. FE is just as popular as Fuji, Oly or Pana.
Time will tell you the result 😀 To keep a division alive, must be innovative, quick time-to-market as following the market trending. To overtake rivals, have tripled these efforts! Sony now just simply the mirrorless leader in the market now in all factors such as pricing, features and usability of these A7 game!
“Worldwide”, huh?
“Sorry, this item can’t be shipped to your selected address.”
likely meant: worldwide first, not first worldwide
First FF AF ILC. First Super-High ISO. First FF MILC with IBS. What’s next??
full autofocus on all areas 🙂
I wonder if the IBIS will work with non-oem, manual focus lenses???
most likely
positive. confirmed.
Sweet thank you
well, that’s the point, isn’t it?
I hope so… Is that a yes?
as far as I know, it’s a yes. the whole point of having that IBIS is to allow two things. to be able to use legacy lenses and still have IS and to release smaller native lenses with AF without OSS.
Thank you
I see this as a strong sign that it does. Let’s hope I’m right:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/9v82om97zq5iml1/Screenshot%202014-11-20%2014.17.25.png?dl=0
They also seem improved the video button. Let’s see if that button is assignable to c1-4 buttons
When they first made the a7, they had already designed the body for IBIS.
How do you tell? The A7mII is a bit thicker and taller so I don’t think it would fit in the A7.
I was not talking in terms of measurement. There was no reason for the design of the top part without IBIS. Non of the SEL cameras has such design. So such design would look more consistent in the future when they incorporate IBIS.
Well, I can think of multiple reasons why Sony would design a SEL camera like this.
First of all, a DSLR-like camera would attract more conservative buyers.
Second of all, the body would have been almost equally high since the EVF is mounted just a few mm above the LCD. It is of course the LCD height+ EVF height = minimum body height.
Thirdly, the number of rangefinder enthusiast is quite a lot lower than the DSLR enthusiasts. This is related to my first point.
That none of the previous E-mount cameras had this design can be explained by the fact that there is more space inside the body due to the APS-C sensor and smaller shutter mechanism, and the application of a smaller 16:9 LCD.
Is the body covered in rubber now? Shame, I love the smooth metal on the A7/A7R. And while I love IBIS, I really don’t like how it’s added 120 g or so to the weight. Its within 150 g or so of a Canon 6D… what’s the point of mirrorless?
Better stability with larger a-mount lenses. Because Sony probably knows more people will be using a-mount lenses due to the IBIS now
It’s not rubber, it’s a speckled paint finish on top of the metal. Ibis adds weight, and so do all the added metal parts. Mirrorless doesn’t mean that cameras may not be robustly built, resulting in slightly heavier cameras.
the magnesium body actually makes the cam lighter, look at the weight difference of a7 vs a7r. the a7r has more magnesium components vs plastic in a7 and the a7r is lighter!
Totally, magnesium is a very light metal. I think the added weight is from the IBIS as well as the larger chassis, it seems to be quite a bit thicker. I wish they would have found a way to make it lighter.
Is there any other current camera with the same features that weighs less? If not STFU!
It’s quite thicker on the right side obviously due to the bigger grip, which is good, but just a bit thicker on the rest od the body! I believe that’s to acommodate the IBIS, an excellent addition!
Glad it’s not rubber, but Sony shouldn’t be trying to emulate or move towards the SLR look, they should be defining their own look in mirrorless. That speckled finish looks quite a bit like SLR finishes.
I’m all for robust build… but it’s not the build that has improved here. The body of the A7 M2 weighs a shade more than the A7 with the 35mm lens. And as I said earlier, if it’s only 100-and-change g more to go to a Canon 6D with its robust build and lens selection, the point is kind of getting lost, isn’t it?
Weight isn’t everything, size is also important. Dslr, no matters how you try to reduce their size, will always carry a mirror. They will remains far deeper than mirrorless for the body (due to flange distance) and they’ll keep an uncompressible bump for the OVF :
http://camerasize.com/compact/#380,579,ha,r
http://camerasize.com/compact/#380,579,ha,t
And don’t forget that Sony managed to implement a 5 axis stab in this package. Canon has no stab. If they would implement a stab, I guess that 6d would weight more too…
It’s still lighter and more compact than your 6D which has a lower resolution sensor and no IBIS. So why are you complaining? Keep your 6D and be happy with it, it’s a nice camera. Just a bit outdated but still usable.
I don’t have a 6D, I have an A7 and A6000. You know, these are companies, not your spouse. We are allowed to criticize their products. What kind of mindset do you have where you don’t want to find anything wrong? If everyone thought like you the human race would never progress.
How are you missing the point of what I’m saying? At mid -400 g weight and the same size as the A6000 plus hump, the a7 was pretty groundbreaking. Anyone used to an NEX body or other mirrorless camera could easily transition. Now it’s getting close to the lightest dSLRs; you don’t see a problem with this trend?
It sounded like you were complaining to your spouse (whiny and illogical ), if your disability makes this camera too heavy for you to carry or lift then I see your point. Otherwise you’re just complaining for the sake of complaining.
I’d argue with you some more, but I better let you get back to your Sony Mavica (perfection since things never need to improve).
I know the Mavica would not be right for you, those floppy disks are way too heavy for a nancy boy like yourself.
FE has never been compact. 5N and RX1 are compact, not A7x.
These are intended by Sony as a replacement for DSLR.
Just wished Sony could make an A7000 with that tech and be more serious about APS-C, that’s quite frustrating.
the fastest auto focus camera is the A6000 that just came out not to long ago. plus the A77II out performs the latest Cannon that just came out this past month. i would say they are pretty serious.
Seriously, that’s your proof of commitment? Well, good for you but not for me…
Why there is no lens roadmap in the past 2 or 3 years for E-mount APS-C and there is one for FF E-mount? Because that’s actually the only system Sony is actually committed and serious about. I would be fooling myself if I was to think otherwise.
I appreciate their cameras, I have no problem with that, I like the innovation of it and maybe it’s just me, but I would like more lenses to put in front of the bodies of a ILC, if that makes any sense for you, putting lenses in front of great cameras.
Fuji’s system has half the age of the E-mount but a much better lens selection, for me, that’s commitment, that’s seriousness. They have a lens roadmap, their users know what to expect, they can prepare themselves for what is coming or not*.
And I don’t care about Canon, that’s a bad example, Canon has a good system, but they are the worst manufacturer when it comes to innovation for the past so many years.
*I don’t own a X-camera, I’m just giving you an example, please, no fanboy discussion about brands because I don’t care about brands.
you had only mentioned camera tech in your original comment so i didn’t know you where also referring to lenses… I’m not familiar with the lens lineup for APS-C? what is it that is missing? i assume what they offer for FF FE wont fit the bill because of crop factor?
And at this point, Fuji has set the bar very high with what they offer, what they communicate to users, and especially their support in things such as firmware updates!! i have the original Fuji X100 and it got a 2.0FW update with major upgrades in functionality some 3 years after it was introduced! that’s even AFTER its successor the X100S was out and fully available! I think all other manufacturers need to go this way or else when they start making FF cameras, they are going to lose a TON of users to Fuji.. IMHO at least…
The FE fits and works well, it’s just more expensive and bigger than it needs to be, not an actual solution, IMO.
APS-C E-mount doens’t have proper portrait lenses (55mm or longer fast prime), basically no macro (just a bad 30mm f3.5), no good wide angle (just pancakes and in similar focal length 16mm, 20mm) and so on…
Yeah, Fuji really does that. Their Kaizen, one day I want to own a Fuji, just for that feeling. It’s just that right now I can afford another system and Fuji does not have good video, which I need. Not just that but I think that the X100s was discontinued at the time it receive that firmware.
I think Fuji will not go FF so soon. First because they would need a new mount, the X-mount doesn’t fit FF – unless they find a way to solve that. And also because they clearly want to solidify their position and system before moving on into something else – kind of the opposite of Sony – because they know that they won’t have the resources to give consumers proper support – it’s really the opposite of Sony because, they actually listen and care.
Sony is like a teenager for me, they are eager, they are bold, they innovate, but they lack focus, too many times in the past few years Sony completely changed their focus with no commitment or respect for those that had previously bought their system. Because for me, cameras are about a system, not just bodies.
I know that Sony didn’t launch a A7000 because it would definetely hurt the sales of their A7 family, I get that. The A7000 would feat great video, faster AF, quicker fps and cheaper, I do understand what they did from the business POV and I don’t really have a problem with that. But then, why just a few zoom lenses in 2 years and… that’s it? Sony could had announced a roadmap, but they didn’t. Why? Because they can’t sustain the development of all the systems they have, no wonder A-mount gets no support even for bodies, just 1 APS-C new body and that’s it. With all they are investing in both bodies and cameras for the FF E-mount, they don’t have enough resources to keep their APS-C or even their A-mount FF AND APS-C. I just don’t think it’s right to simply shift like that and neglect the rest like that. The A-mount is less problematic because it still has lenses but the E-mount doesn’t, if you don’t make them, there will be gaps in the line up and you can’t sustain that with just bodies.
That’s why I said Sony was only serious about the FF E-mount.= and they are neglecting everything else, which is a shame because the A6000 and even a possible A7000 should be great cameras, but without a lens line up to pair up with.
Love the shutter button that is placed better than the mk I. Love the grip. That makes it better to hold with tele lenses. The ergonomic looks better than the mk I
But im not shure if its weather proofed. Not shure how the iso is compared to the mk II, or the A7s. I heard a bird singing tht its a brand new sensor. So i´m waiting with patience for some field tests of this camera
Just because of the ergonomic upgrade and IBIS, I am very tempted on upgrading to this from my A7…… Now, let’s see if I can hold off to until the A9(or whatever it will be called) is released….
im on the same boat. but since the A9 will probably more around 3000-4000Euros id say take the a7ii or wait for a7rii a7sii weither they are beeing released or not. but at the time we speak they are probably already in preproduction and will be released in about 1/2 year.
Lucky that I’m in the US, don’t have to pay that extortionate amount. Though if they really do a A7S II, I probably won’t be able to hold on for the A9. To be honest, I have no need for the 24MP on my A7, prefer a much lower pixel count. Though, I really wonder what the cost is for the A9 now.
Wow I really like how the grip is now, and especially where the shutter button is. I hate the ergonomics of my a7s.
I’ll buy your A7s for the A7II price 🙂 I really enjoyed the A7s, but the pricetag is waaay too high. I rented it and thought the IQ and MP count was right on.
The dynamic range is insane. I normally use Mk3’s to shoot weddings but I brought the A7s out, and for one shot I struggled to get a silhouette, because the dynamic range was so good.
If/When they come out with the A7s mk2 it’s definitely going up for sale lol.
New grip is better for long, large lenses. For small legacy prime lenses, old grip is better suited(IMO).
might sound abit evil. but usually on annoucement, you will have dpreview and other sites having a first-impression/hands-on article. but not this time… to me it seems like they rushed the news out to make sure xmas shopper dont buy other brands
Japan only announcement, so far. Hence no worldwide news except SAR which obviously keeps a close eye to everything.
So, in order to complete the family it remains to be released a PRO FE (A9) and a PRO E (A7000), both with IBIS, weather sealed, tri-navi …. I would also like to see an A5, a camera like the A7 without EVF.
Wow. As a Canon 5D and 5DII user since 2011, I’ve never felt the urge —till now— to buy a new camera body, and I invested in lenses and lighting accessories waiting for a real step forward from Canon.
Today I want a 4K, 20+mpx, full-frame, wi-fi, stabilized, 6400iso reliable body.
Canon (I love Canon lenses and I do really love Canon files quality) did not answer my (our?) needs.
Sony is now very inviting and attractive. I won’t leave Canon, but the A7II, at 1300 euros, will probably find place in my bag.
Well done guys.
“Source: SonyAlphaForum”
You mean the source is you? You posted info in your own forum and that is a source apparently. Sure you’re not just trying to advertise your forum?
It means it’s not an official statement by Sony.
SonyAlphaRumors and SonyAlphaForum are two different projects, apparently
Looks like my K-3 grip and knobs. Brilliant design. Time to drop kick my A7R!!! When can they take MY MONEY $$$$$ ??
Oh I can’t wait for those! particularly, because people will hopefully sell the mk1s cheap 😉
sub 1K? I think it’s possible.
I’ve already seen A7 selling for $1100-1300 used. and A7R for $1800 of course the prices will vary from city to city,
I would guess the images get more vignetting when the ibis sensor move. The FE mount does not seem fit to allow for the larger image circle that an ibis sensor require.
Stop trying to spread unsubstantiated information.
Unsubstantiated?? I already have A7 and vignetting is clearly visible with several of the FE lenses. When the sensor is moving sideways during its exposure there exist no physical possible way to avoid getting more vignetting, without making the sensor smaller. A sensor moving sideways will make the already existing vignetting more difficult to fix in Ligtroom, since it can not be set in a preset or solved with s single slider.
Stop commenting posts related to physics if you don’t understand physics.
Looking back at Sony’s track record for flooding the market with camera bodies and since the A7 series have officially broken the Full Frame camera market by starting at price points we used to expect from the Pro level APS-C DSLR’s 7Dmk2 actually maintains that price point but that’s only because Canon like Nikon are big fat dinosaurs with such huge market share that they just don’t care yet.
I’m looking forward to seeing these MkII’s and all of the Sony announcements coming. My Nex7 won me over. My D800 is collecting dust literally all over the sensor which is annoying as hell.
My next camera will for sure be a Sony FE.