The video on top is the official Zeiss lens presentation. New image samples (shot on Fuji X) at DSLRmagazine (google translation here) and at ePhotozine (here and here). And there is also a new precise shipping info. The new Touit lens will ship on June 3 according to BHphoto (Click here).
As you know on Sunday DSLRmagazine (google translation here) posted the full lens reviews and said that this are “state of the art” lenses. You get what you paf for!
Zeiss preorder links:
12mm f/2.8 at BHphoto (Click here), Adorama (Click here) and Uniquephoto (Click here). In Europe at FotoMundus.
32mm f/1.8 at BHphoto (Click here), Adorama (Click here) and Uniquephoto (Click here). In Europe at FotoMundus.
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Someone explain why the X-mount model gets an aperture ring but not the one for E-mount?
probably because fuji primes also have it
Because the aperture is set in the camera for the NEX
Because Fuji is special. Interesting, on the Fuji forums they look at the 32mm with a kind of “whatever” attitude. I guess their 35mm is as good and a heck of a lot cheaper.
Anyways, how cares; I want a HassellSony LuNex. Now that is impressive!
No the Fuji 35 is $600, not a LOT cheaper, and from the initial test we saw between the fuji 35 and the Zeiss 32, the Fuji appeared to be much sharper, From other tests, we see that this is not the case. I imagine it was an OOF test from a Fuji 35 fanboy or simply a bad sample. It didn’t even make sense….. lol
http://www.dslrmagazine.com/pruebas/pruebas-de-campo/objetivos-carl-zeiss-touit-para-csc-muestras.html
2nd part of their review. Unfortunately, the guy taking the photos did a very poor job. Many of those photos appear to have needed a tripod. The one or two bokeh shot he took used the easiest background to test bokeh. There are other photos floating around that shows the 12mm’s bokeh being very nervous. None of this guy’s bokeh samples have any high frequency details in the background.
I’m looking for a comparison between the 12mm and the 10-18.
Are you serious? Bokeh is the last thing to worry with such a wide angle lens. But 12mm is indeed just a toy lens, without the DOF scale on it and lack of distance and DOF indication in the camera.
A toy lens? Are you serious? There are TONS of applications where you don’t need a dof scale on the lens – especially with live view, EVFs and peaking.
Replace DOF scale (or DOF display info) with LV and peaking?
Strange statement. Obviously lack of skill. Please, go somewhere and take some practice before making such a nonsense claims.
Lack of skill? LOL.
Just tell me one example where you NEED a dof scale.
Such a lame question, definitely lack of skill. Setting hyperfocal distance for certain aperture, setting two or more subjects all being in focus — this is common usecase with such a wide lens. With DOF scale it is trivial task.
Can’t reply again at your last reply, so here must do..
Setting hyperfocal distance for a certain aperture? I can calculate it (pretty fast actually) and set it using magnified live view. You just have to be good at guessing distances. And getting two objects in focus: Trivial using magnified live view on a tripod. That’s perfectly fine for many who are using this lens for landscapes & co.
AND: There’s absolutely NO reason to offend me directly! Calm down and stay polite.
Now official response from Zeiss (answering a question on their CLN blog):
“Unfortunately, our previous statement that it is not possible to add a distance scale and and DOF scale to the Touit lenses is correct.
But you´re right – the two lenses you mentioned (Fuji XF 14mm F2.8R with X-mount, Olympus M.Zuiko Digital ED 12mm with MFT mount) offer a switchable manual focus ring that allows to use a distance scale and a DOF scale on the focusing ring. But those lenses are completely different regarding their mechanical, optical and electronical design. The design of the Touit lenses does not allow to implement this additional function, as long as the size and weight of the lenses should be kept within moderate limitations.”
BS tales
This can be done quite easily: just implement kind of proxy interface between camera and lens focusing controller. But they likely chose the way of profit maximization at the expense of customers: cheap materials, large lenses that costs MUCH more than FF analogues (50/2.8 on FF would be much cheaper and much smaller).
Unfortunately, you can see at 3:09 that it’s mostly the outside that is metal. Not the filter threads, not the main structure, and not the focus mechanism (it looks like the front two groups move in and out).
Everyone was complaining that there are not enough lenses around – and if so – they are of inferior quality.
Now you have a new set of glass and it is not good enough as well. The Video clearly states that These lenses are for “everyone’s” use, thus not top-high-end. This is refelcted in the pricing as well, compared to other Zeiss designs.
Now they put some plastic inside to make it lighter – else you would have complained about the weight, as usual.
No matter what anyone does, Sony, Zeiss or else ….. they never can do it right for you and your toy-cams!
You must be a very Special breed of People: wanting everything for nothing and then wondering, why your salaries are so low!
I find it hilarious that you’re going on about my comment when I have 8 native E-mount lenses. So, no I was not complaining about “not enough lenses around” or “they are of inferior quality.”
Yes, I go by this nick in DPR, where what-I-have-and-use is well-established in my posting history.
When you ASSUME, you make an ASS out of U & ME. 😀
So what was that about “toy cams,” jackass troll?
Well, I did not “reply” to your comments, specifically. There is the general trend of complaining about everything here, concerning E-Mount lenses.
I do not know about you, neither vice versa. Thus keep your education incl. those vulgarisms simply to yourself – would you?
Doesn’t make you shine, somehow!
Correct me if I’m wrong. Hefty price for lens with no OSS.
Am I better off with a Metabones adapter and a couple of Canon EF lenses?
There were some hefty discussions why Zeiss didn’t stabilize any of these lenses. Some say their engineers are simply not able to do it, others say it’s bad for the optical quality.
While there might be some truth in both, fact is that the average centering quality is much higher without OSS, and later centering defects are much more unlikely. But it’s also fact that OSS wouldn’t harm IQ considerably in a ‘good’ sample of a lens.
Are you better off with a Speedbooster and EF lenses? Well, not really. If there’s a good 12mm EF lens, it has to be huge and much more expensive than the Touit, and you don’t have OSS either. On the 32mm, well, a Speedbooster will give you more speed of course, but you’ll loose the native AF speed as well as the compact size, low weight and lower price than a SB + a high quality EF lens.