The video on top shows the NEX-7 on the [shoplink 11747 ebay]Vivicam Slider (available here on eBay)[/shoplink].
There is a new full NEX-7 review at ePhotozine (Click here) and of course it gets Highly Recommended. But no camera is 100% perfect and Klaus from Photozone says there are some corner issues on the NEX-7. Links:
http://forum.photozone.de/index.php?/topic/1904-sony-nex-7/
http://forum.photozone.de/index.php?/topic/1992-sony-nex-7-2nd-sample-results/
http://forum.photozone.de/index.php?/topic/2009-nex-7-vs-nex-5/
I know Klaus very well and I know he absolutely likes the Sony NEX system. The NEX-7 corner issue doesn’t change the fact that the NEX-7 is a damn good camera. Just like any camera be aware of the limitations!
UDPATE: There is one more hands-on review at SonyAlphaLab (Click here).
Another reader sent me this: “Still waiting for my NEX 7, but in the meantime my Hawk’s Factory Close Focus Leica M – Sony E adapter arrived. Lets you mount Leica M lenses, just like any other adapter, but it also has a focusing helicoid built in to let you focus 50-80% closer than usual with any M lens. Here’s my review, though you might be interested as it’s exclusively a Sony E mount product right now: http://jbhildebrand.com/2012/gear/hawks-factory-close-focus-adapter-review/“.
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Nice video.
Is anybody having a good advice for a cheaper, similar slider/dolly ? (entry level budget)
Build your own using Rig Wheels http://www.rigwheels.com/ Lots of videos showing you how to build sliders, table-top dollys, full size dollys, etc.
Why do you want to move your camera? Because you think it looks cool? Camera moves should be motivated – the camera pulls back to reveal something new, etc. All too often we see meaningless moves – medium shot of someone talking and camera moves two feet to the left (for no reason).
Take a look at the Skater videos http://www.pstechnik.de/en/skater-mini-camera-dolly.php to see how Pros use these tools. Lots of good ideas on how to do it right. There are 10 videos, but the important one is the “trailer.”
c.d.embrey thank you so much! That’s all I ever think about when I watch these demo videos of these little slider dolly toys. The video above is a great example of the separations between a well practiced cinematographer and a photographer. I also always think about how limited you really are by these track sliders. You only get one directional move and you’re limited to lenses that emphasize a small move like that.
Thanks a lot c.d.embrey !
I’ve been thinking about building one on my own, Rig Wheels looks really interesting and versatile. I’ve also followed your advice and watched the trailer you mentioned … great stuff.
Camera moves can make a scene look very cool. But you’re right, if the pan is meaningless, it only looks stupid.
“But no camera is 100% perfect and Klaus from Photozone says there are some corner issues on the NEX-7. Links:”
Are there any image results? I keep hearing these insinuations (a new term, “sensor effect”) in various fora…
Quite disappointing. This very great camera should have been a killer, but no use with M-Mount lenses, no real good range of lenses, just the Zeiss 24mm. Now, following the excellent Klaus, even the very good 50mm seems to have an issue on the Nex-7 ? Should we swith to the Fuji X-Pro 1 ?
Which 50mm and have you shot with it on a NEX-7 or seen images to support this whacky imagination?
I seen some very good pics and I was very close to buy it. However, Klaus, in Photozone.de, seems to say that he has an issue with the Nex-7 sensor, even with the 50mm f:1,8. Moreover, in ThePictureDesk, we can see some soft corners with the 50mm f:1,8 on Nex-7 despite the fact some other shots are really great. Why is there so unconsistent results ?
May be there is something wrong with the Testers?! I have the 7 and the E 50/1.8 and all the primes. Except the E 16/2.8 (a dog. it was on the 5 as well) I have no problems.
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Sorry you should expect light loss and resolution loss on the corners @ a high resolution 24 MP APS-C CMOS sensor! You always see some unsharp corners because of light loss or better to say because of the bad optical path /light beam to the sensor on the corners and the lens itself! You can’t trick out physics!
Of course it is also a question of which lens you are using.
But maybe his NEX-7 or his adapter is damaged or defective. 😉 It could be anything wrong. The Zeiss 85mm f/1.4 ZA (also the 85mm isn’t the best zeiss prime for A-mount, look better at the 135mm ZA) has sometimes quality issues. (e.g. decentered exemplars)
Maybe Klaus should try much more lenses from the Zeiss ZA lineup. With a good exemplar of a Zeiss 135mm f/1,8 i am sure he will get even better results, if his nex7 isn’t defect.
With less resolution/mp cameras you won’t see so fast corner issues because of their lack of higher mp/resolution.
That’s all old stuff…
Making a native lens with such a short flange focal distance is not easy. That is one of the reason not many native NEX lenses yet from Sony.
I wonder how long this fundamental point will take to sink in?
Damn, Klaus should go out shooting and not pixel peeping. Sure a lens has to be sharp but not all things you take a picture of need corner to corner sharpness. If I need a sharp area it is usally not in the very corner or at the edge. Yes someone needs to have an eye on sharpness but spending days and hours on it cannot be the solution. Such a person should better buy a “capable camera” or “capable lenses” or declare what his aim is in again and again investigating this matter.
No I’m not from Sony. I Have a GH2 for playing around and normally I am a Canon shooter.
A babe sliding a nex-7 up and down was strangely erotic…
I’ll drink to that !!!!!!!!!!!
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I’ve been using my NEX 7 with M lenses for a few weeks now and I don’t think blanket statements can be made like “no-go with all M lenses”. My CV 35mm f1.7 and 50mm f1.5 work beautifully. My 15mm Heliar works great, a little magenta fringing wide open, easily fixed with Cornerfix, perfectly sharp… I don’t know what people are complaining about with this lens. The only lens I’m not sure about so far is my 25mm Snapshot Skopar… I THINK it’s a little softer than normal, but I need to do more testing, either way, it still makes great photos on the NEX 7.
I think you can’t discount ALL leica wides on the NEX 7, maybe it’s only certain angles of light that cause problems with the sensor. Regardless, all my Leica M lenses can make nice photos on the camera, that’s all I care about.
We have known for years that cramming more pixels on the same surface size can cause picture degradation instead of improvement and now we are suprised that putting 50% more pixels on an APS-C sensor (5n vs 7) leads to some issues? How odd.
So true, I wished Nikon didn’t release the D800, who needs 36MP… that’s insane.
The D800 has about the same pixel density as the 5N. Nothing wrong with that.
People said who needs 10mp too, but I bet your camera has more!
Sony should make a 1 MP version NEX-7 just for some of the testers.
Looks like they should make one without corners too.
Wow I guess you wouldn’t like that I have an 80MP leaf back then. Kind needed for making BIG prints. Seeing as 4×5 is worth about 150MP we aren’t even back to good film yet.
so how do you explain that the Nex-7 sensor has the highest score of all APS-C sensors in dxomark?
better colour deapth, better dynamic range, and very close high iso performance of the Nex-5n
Both Nikon D7000 and Pentax K-5 has higher dxomark score. Sony A580 is about as good as NEX-7. So I rather think NEX-5N is downgraded version of an old 16Mp sensor than new 24Mp is really significantly better. BTW, I’m sure newer APS-C sensors from canon will destroy these sonies. Fuji has already did it, and it’s canon’s turn now.
Pretty negative statement from Klaus
http://forum.photozone.de/index.php?/topic/2009-nex-7-vs-nex-5/page__view__findpost__p__16194
Sony just lost 70% of their customer base and potential revenue from the NEX-7 sales! 🙁
I very much doubt that.
Are you sure?! 😉
Hmm…let me think…
A while back I decided to stick it out with my NEX5 primarily due to the 7’s corners were the same as my 5’s with legacy lenses. I am waiting for a 7n with corners like the 5n.
The manner in how I use my 5 viewfinders and flash hotshoes mean nothing to me. I have a 77 for that kind of usage. I can wait Sony out for the next NEX generation.
Actually corner issue isnt that much issue, if you are at least tiny bit SWable. Tho Sony could fix it by addin FW option to profil lenses for color shift (like Leica does).
If it can be work around, its not a problem..
A firmware fix doesn’t help detail issues. There are plenty of Nex-7 users that are perfectly happy with the edge performance of the Nex-7, but that isn’t Klaus’ point. Klaus’ point is that the corners aren’t as good as they SHOULD be, depending on the lens design, and the AA and/or microlens setup of the camera should be improved for the next generation of the 7. If Photozone can’t even use the Nex-7 to test lenses for their site, because the edge performance is so inconsistent with various lenses compared to other Nex cameras, it’s quit a mistake by Sony, and more and more corner issues pop up from new Nex-7 users every day.
Heck, corner issues with this camera were obvious in several Pre-production tests several months ago!
True that, that unfortunately cant be worked around, there are some wide-angle lens which are good in corners, but not that much of them and certainly not cheap.
I agree Sony should fixed it before releasing. Tho Im afraid they care mostly about their own lens lineup, not alt one.. Im not sure it shows with E-mount lenses (but it might, just dunno).
GH I agree……. seems odd to me that they have the technology to improve edge performance with legacy glass (as seen on the NEX 5n) why wouldn’t they of used it right from the get go on the NEX 7’s sensor as well. They knew the 7 was going to be used with various type glass just as the other NEX cameras have been (heck I think that is a major reason for the NEX lines popularity). It just seems like a near intentional shot in their own foot approach in releasing the camera at at least the same corner performance as the 5n if not better.
I know there are corner fix and color shift workarounds as I do this already with my 5 and any legacy glass wider than 35mm but my next NEX will be bought when they have done the workaround so I don’t have to anymore.
I am not saying the NEX 7 isn’t a great camera in itself because it surely is but for MY NEEDS it isn’t worth the price of upgrading yet. I am sure the next NEX7 version will address it’s corner issue just like the 5n did for the NEX5.
Now, I see why Sony feel compelled to release more cameras than lenses. They do not know how to build a camera!
Congrats, your a retard!
i read the forum entries on Nex 7 corner sharpness and i feel he is either looking in subpixel mathematical detail or i dont know what he was hoping for.. i use a bunch of voigtlaender and a contax g 28 2.8 and all of them are pretty tack sharp from corner to corner.. of course there is allways a bit more sharpness in the center, but in real life its as good as it gets for sharpness
of course i have the color shifting too but thats a different issue he was not complaining about.
anyhow i know the Nex 7 is a pretty awesome tool to make great pictures if you take it out of the test lab and try to actually use it in real life 😉
If you think the Contax G 28 is tack sharp from corner to corner on the NEX-7, then your standards aren’t particularly high. Heck, this lens even has some smearing on other NEX cameras.
Really, that’s the point. Users have a wide range of acceptability for edge performance, so it’s hard to get a real sense of it’s performance. Photozone’s opinions are the most compelling so far, because they have reasonably good testing procedures, so I hope they publish an article about it.
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nice slider!
Another set of posts about a new camera that people are complaining about, most likely without using it. On the other extreme are the people who are quietly using it to take great images.
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