Reminder: A7II will ship after tomorrow in USA. Preorder it here at Amazon, BHphoto, Adorama, SonyStore.
Chris and Jordan from TheCameraStoreTV tested the new Sony A7II. They also invited Canon photographer Kyle Marquardt to review the camera and you will have to watch the video to find out if a Canon PRO photographer can be…converted 🙂
Also Luminous Landscape got their hands on the A7II and writes:
Less than a week with a new camera isn’t enough for my kind of testing. But even such a short period of time has shown me that with the A7 MKII Sony has finally hit its stride in terms of refining the NEX / A7 design paradigm. The early mistakes of dreadful user interface and awkward controls is now mostly past, and instead the A7 MKII has emerged as one of the most usable mirrorless cameras on the market. The fact it is also smaller and lighter than some Micro Four Thirds and APS-C cameras while offering a much larger and in many cases higher resolution sensor just clinches the deal. With its IBIS the MKII will appeal to a great many users of third party lenses as well as Sony’s A series lenses via an adaptor such as the LA-EA4.
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USA/Canada preorders:
Sony Alpha a7II (Body Only) for $1,698 at Amazon, BHphoto, Adorama, SonyStore and Sony Store Canada.
Sony Alpha a7II with FE 28-70mm OSS Lens for $1,998 at Amazon, BHphoto, Adorama, SonyStore.
Sony 70-300mm f/4.5-5.6 G SSM II Lens for $1,148 at BHphoto.
EU preorders:
Sony Alpha a7II (Body Only) for 1.799 Euro at Sony Germany, Sony UK, Jessops UK, Sony France, Sony Italy, Sony Spain, Sony Austria, Sony Switzerland, Sony Netherland, Sony Belgium, Sony Portugal, Sony Sweden, Sony Finland, Sony Norway.
Sony Alpha a7II with FE 28-70mm OSS Lens for 2.099 Euro at Amazon Germany, Wex UK, Jessops UK, Verkkokauppa.
Asian/Australia preorders:
Sony A7II at Sony Store Australia and Amazon Japan.
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Good review, well done The Camera Store TV.
cool
I don’t know about the review, it’s a good movie. I just enjoy watching even if I i’m not interesting in the product so much
Luminous Landscape sums it up nicely in this statement in reference to Canon and Nikon:
“while those other two companies have sat with their thumbs in the proverbial dark place for the past few years, Sony has forged ahead with mirrorless technology. Indeed they are the only camera maker with a mirrorless full frame camera, and not just one model, but a whole line-up of them”
A whole line up of cameras, yes. Lenses, not so much. And I would hardly call a D810 a “dark place.” “Industry-leading cameras with a full line of lenses” yes.
Well, he meant in terms of innovation. Certainly, the D810 is a very capable camera, but it islet another DSLR and we have plenty of those.
And we have plenty of mirrorless bodies too. I just realized that if the rumor is true about the A7000, there will be more APS-C Sony bodies than APS-C Sony lenses. Don’t trust me – go count them. Nex 3 through A6000.
News Flash! The lenses fit all the bodies and each one is best in class, with no real competition from either Canon or Nikon.
If he’s actually a Nikon pro, he’ll gladly share his website with us. Just ask him politely. “Can we please see your website CI Sales, we’re all here to learn and not argue.”
Almost. But that is normal. Just count all the Canon or Nikon bodies for the same timeframe.
Agree. I think Sony should learn from Fuji how to build lens lineup in relatively short period of time. Gave up with my NEX when realized that there will be nothing new in tele range for E-mount, except shitty 55-210. And now take a look at the Fuji – they even have super-tele working prototype.
And they’ve entered mirrorless market later than Sony.
I understand Sony’s marketing strategy – to fill the market with camera bodies, and then let people wait for the lenses, but I’d prefer new lenses each half of the year, rather than new camera body with “wow, at last they’ve placed shutter button in right place! Worth upgrade!”.
It’s the most reason I don’t move to Sony from my Canon 6D – I have a lot of lenses to shoot with Canon, though I realize that Sony is smaller (better for travel shooter), and has better sensor tech.
We have plenty? So what? Keep them coming, they are still the best design. If you owned one and spent some time shooting it, you’d know.
Nikon deserves a lot of credit for developing such a high resolution sensor, everything else is just status quo. Oh wait! It’s a Sony sensor…………….. 🙁
…with which Nikon achieved higher quality! I have always advocated that Sony should stick to sensors and leave the cameras to the people who know what they’re doing. Sony makes great sensors that deserve a great camera.
Keep telling yourself that, It’s the only false hope you have left.
Analysis is a little like advocation, its often better left to ones betters. Sony cameras are actually very well constructed when you figure out what is under the hood and more importantly, what you’re actually looking for!
“Ones’ betters.” Would that be you? I am both a nikon and (soon-to-be ex) Sony user. I have owned 2 Sony bodies and have tried for 3 years to get them into my workflow. In the end, the only advantage I found was size, and that is diminishing as Sony bodies keep growing. I hope I can be a voice of caution for someone who, like me, believes the hype and is on the verge of dumping an established system in favor of a new and everchanging young system that hasn’t figured out what it wants to be.
The amount of BS you’re spewing increases exponentially with each post. You don’t even own a camera, you’re just a camera fanboy that dreams someday of owning a Nikon because your daddy had one. If you think anyone here actually take you seriously, you’re only fooling yourself. Go away troll, join the circle jerk on the Nikon board.
We’re not interested in your failure to adapt, this is a board for people who are actually trying to step into the 21st century. And yes to your question. Now put up (a website) or shut up with the Sony bashing nonsense we’re not buying the enlightened Nikon pro routine unless you put up a website!
One free piece of advice for you, CANON, if you’re genuinely interested in a modern top-flight lens catalogue where nearly all lenses auto-focus and the newer ones (all made in the last 18 months) are stellar its CANON you want, not Nikon.
Just buy both systems if you care that much. You will feel better. Instead of buying one and trying to get some added value bashing the other brand. Don’t have the dough? pick a different hobby. “have tried for 3 years to get them into my workflow.” really? How is that acceptable in any profession.
“voice of caution” no your coming off as bitter and broke.
I do own both. I am sharing my experience. People in all sorts of creative fields often try new tools. It’s not personal to me.
I have so much gear, and yet I still don’t know what other people need or want…nor do i care. It is a false generalization to begin with. As for “I am sharing my experience”, no your not. The FE is short on lenses, Af not as fast as DSLR… these are not news.Your comments have no value to anyone other than you. Actually all your doing is reminding people the trade offs they made when buying a mirror less. Which is why they calling you a troll. So troll away but don’t pretend your the “voice of caution”.
Relax, relax, and take a chance to learn something, you and your other nicknames. Next time, you will be able to shill better. Happy?
So far, we are left at “this system is crap”. Good point. I am not buying into it, either. All the rest is smoke and mirrors.
Well, when I was purchasing my first Sony camera, and excited about all the hype, I wish there had been someone there to tell me to wait. And you said it best: “all your doing is reminding people the trade offs they made when buying a mirror less.” Buyer’s remorse is a first-world problem, but there are so many posts on forums titled “Should I switch from X to Sony?” and so many paid shills posting articles about “I switched from X to Sony!” on blogs that I wanted to add my voice, small as it may be. At least I’m civil 🙂
But you’re pathological in your persistence, you’re like that salesman that won’t go away and complains when the foot he’s wedged in your closing door gets stomped on.
Not today, thank you and goodnight.
Fair enough! However, no one is forcing you to read anything I write – you have the power to ignore. Have a great day!
Take the hint, read the NEGATIVE replies to your posts, NO ONE is interested in your sales-pitch. You are becoming an icky creeper, no matter how well-intentioned you think you are you’re coming across like a Sony forum stalker. It’s creepy, weird and pathological.
FYI. We’re not interested in reading what you write, BUT YOU ARE HERE FOR NO OTHER REASON THAN TO BE A CREEPER. You’re like that creeper that thinks because a group of girls are out for a good time together they must tolerate your advances!
Ignore him. He’s clueless and unwilling to learn, he adds nothing worthwhile here or on his other boards he stalks.
all this crap is hype (shooting with hasselblad v) 😉
http://nikonrumors.com/2013/04/29/nikon-published-an-updated-list-of-recommended-lenses-for-the-d800e-camera.aspx/
Nikon aren’t too doing very well with their range after 60 years with one mount! I think Sony are doing a lot better after a mere 12 months of FE development.
I’m missing something at this 18 month old link. There are more lenses in this partial list than Sony has ever dreamed of manufacturing.
Question, will all those lenses work on Nikon’s full frame mirrorless?
So in 18 months, what have Nikon added to this list of premium (recommended for Sony’s sensor) glass?
What does that matter? Nikon has a very full, rich complement of lenses going back 40 years that can still be used. Again, Sony makes good sensors. No need to preach to the choir.
So your buying a “high octane sensor” from Sony for a very good camera like the D810 and using “regular octane glass” from 40 years ago. Well, I suppose if you’re Miss Daisy and only tootling down to Walgreens for your script it doesn’t matter does it!
And you skipped my last question I see…………..
Isn’t using legacy glass with adapters something Sony shooters find appealing?
You flip-flop more than your Nikon shutter.
You’re talking to CameraTech, right? He’s the one that criticized using 40 year old lenses on new sensors, despite the fact that that very thing is a selling point for other Sony shooters, and the source of a rich aftermarket in adapters.
I suspect your comment was just for the joke. Good one!
+1
Sure, the Canon 17mm TSE is peerless, its a perfect low distortion architectural lens and looks excellent on the A7R’s 36mm sensor. And there’s all that Zeiss cinema glass too, the motion crowd love to adapt to the A7S. Um, good point CI Photo! Can’t do that will your D100………….
Except the focusing screens on contemporary Nikon DSLRs are not designed to aid manual focusing. My Nikon mf glass works better on the Sony A7 than it ever did on the D600. Even the Df that was supposed to take us all back to the golden days of photography does not have a proper focusing screen.
I’m glad that works for you! I had some fun with focus peaking too, but the trade-off in quality shooting through an adapter pretty much made the high end nikon glass worthless. And the weight advantage was gone.
Good points.
Indeed a nice list from Nikon (or Canon equivalent). But for normal people, a 200/2 or 600/4 etc. are just a dream. If you take out the above 3000 USD lenses (hands up if you are in a market to pay up that much for a single lens!), that leaves you with the tilt-shifts, 24/1.4 and the 14-24mm. For tilt shift would go with the 17mm Canon and metabones + A7r, much better than with Canon combo. For 14 mm still have the Samyiang which doesn’t really look much worse than the Nikon (and you do something wrong if you need AF for that).
Lastly, if you really need a 8000 USD lens, the cost of a Canon 6D or Nikon D600 is just pocket change, isn’t it?
But yes, 24mm 1.4 for Sony that would be something :).
There are a lot more sub-$3000 lenses on that list than you mention. Of the 23 lenses, only 6 are over that price…
Also, the thing with adapters is that it’s been tested and Lensrentals had this to say about them:
“Putting a great lens on your camera via an adapter might still be better than an average native-mount lens. On the other hand, that great lens certainly wouldn’t be as good as it would be on its native-mount camera.”
http://www.lensrentals.com/blog/2013/09/there-is-no-free-lunch-episode-763-lens-adapters#more-15456
Canon’s mission statement: “Yesterday’s Technology Tomorrow”
Classic!
Reminds me of Apple.
When is Nikon going to release a full frame mirrorless camera?
Why? The technology is still in beta. Most professionals wouldn’t take things like slow focusing and start-up times. I read a quote that the A7 II takes a “few seconds” to start up. That’s unacceptable.
You must be a therapist for the Nikon board of directors, you expect us to believe that feel good BS?
All lame excuses for a floundering company, give it a rest.
My shooting benefits greatly from such characteristics as a quick startup time and fast, accurate autofocus.
Yes, that I-Phone is quite the camera. And with a simple interface that even a monkey could master.
You are arrogant pr1ck 😉
Those mastered monkeys are much better in general than eye level shooting zealots.
But that 40 year old glass isn’t autofocus? I sincerely think you’re not even a professional photographer at all. If you are, website please!
Again, aren’t Sony shooters all about legacy glass?
> accurate
On DSLRs? You must be joking 😉
Sorry CI, you are making a mistake: you talk photography in a gadget forum. Of course those things you mention are important, and we can also add accurate manual focus, general responsiveness, mature UI, battery life, radio flash, lens lineup…
Yet, keyboard warriors don’t know these things and paid shills ignore them, too. You talk too much photography, you step out of line 🙂
The D810 certainly can’t shoot in dark places….terrible low light AF….Really really bad…embarrassing bad…..
Don’t tell this to CI Sales, it would break his bleeding heart.
Well, as bad as the A7r at least (same sensor, remember?) That’s why we have the A7s, and D4s.
Ah no….when you switch to the A7r mid shoot because at least you can zoom in and see the focus properly….due to the fact that the Nikon AF is completely missing focus….that says a lot…. Give me the camera I can do the job with…
“Give me the camera I can do the job with…” The smartest thing anyone has ever said. Sincerely.
Website of your work?
Have D810 and can’t agree with you. Works very fine for me. Have A7ii on preorder. I guess the D810 will still be more reliable with focussing and tracking in low light. It doesn’t go down to -4ev like the A7s, unfortunately.
Luminous Landscape are paid shills. Removing the mirror has opened up a lot of problems, and Sony has not fixed any yet. Cramming that ff sensor in that tiny mount opened up a second line of new problems, too. No need to say, those problems are also unaddressed.
“Luminous Landscape are paid shills” – paid by who? Michael isn’t part of LL neither are most of the photographers who write articles for LuLa
Which demonstrates what exactly? That they don’t take money to write good reviews? You see where I am going?
Yes, unfortunately……..
Michael founded LL.
Wrong people to label as shills. There are many internet shills (as you call them) but LuLa aren’t amongst them..
“Indeed they are the only camera maker with a mirrorless full frame camera”
Leica?
Leica is a rangefinder camera, not a mirrorless camera.
“The fact it is also smaller and lighter than some Micro Four Thirds and APS-C cameras”
What m43 cameras are heavier than 600g A7 II? Olympus E-M1 is 497g by comparison, even 4K-shooting-and-internally-recording Panasonic GH4 is 560g. Not to mention that lenses are 3-4 times lighter, like 14-42EZ powerzoom that is only 93g, compared to Sony FE 28-70 (with lower range on tele end and without powerzoom) at 295g.
The sensor is also 3-4 times lighter. 🙂
Which is of course negligible.
So what, M43 still sucks.
True, although the lens thing comes with the territory. A sensor with 4 times the area essentially needs a lens with 4 times the area of glass collecting light for the same field of view in order to deliver the same illumination intensity. That’s twice the focal length and twice the diameter aperture for the same f stop. Given that a longer focal length lens is generally physically longer, has fatter elements (as they are bigger diameter), then it’s maybe surprising the penalty isn’t worse.
So yes, the M43 system has natural advantage on its side as far as size and weight goes. However, it’s only delivering 1/4 of the photons for any given exposure and FoV. It’s still pretty impressive that Sony managed to get an FF sensor into a body that size and stabilise it too (which means moving a 4 x heavier sensor around at twice the speed for the same FoV and rate of pitch/yaw).
“That’s twice the focal length and twice the diameter aperture for the same f stop.”
Of course. Some people really need the difference, like those shooting sports in low light. Of course, no Sony FE camera can shoot sports in low light – neither AF nor sequential speed to do that. Even A7s which should have been born for that had it some useful AF-C and fps.
Well, maybe A9. And some future f/2.8 zooms. Although I hate to think how big and expensive they are going to be given the price and size of the mediocre 24-70/4.
I know somebody who uses an A7S for photographing gigs, which has some of the same requirements as sport and often has very difficult lighting. However, focal lengths are not so extreme and the subjects tend to move rather slower. What he finds a real boon is the silent shutter mode at quiet acoustic events, which are often poorly lit.
He also often uses A-Mount Zeiss optics using manual focus and the “dumb” adapter. It took practice to nail manual focus in such an environment.
We will have to see if later E-Mount cameras are more suited to sports coverage. The A9 may come in multiple variants, like the A7 but I think it will be a long time before native telephotos (zooms or prime) will appear.
(It may be that Sigma or Tamron might adapt one of their DSLR lenses. They would, of course, be even larger on E than A mount, but if they can get the interface working it might just be possible to have them behave appropriately for a hybrid AF system. A bit of a long shot, but I think it will require 3rd party lens support to get the platform to really take off).
“However, focal lengths are not so extreme and the subjects tend to move rather slower.”
So it is not the same as sports at all.
True, but the fact that we are discussing some 100 grams between FF and M43 does say a lot.
And we talk about 100gr between a A7II and Canon 6D. With the smallest lenses, there is not much of a difference between all FF cameras. The decision is made with lenses where m43 has a clear advantage with a full range of LIGHT lenses, while Sony has ONE small lens and CaNikon a couple native and a full range of third party SMALL lenses. If seen like that, it is getting obvious that the Sony A7 line is something in-between as a product line. That is why I settled with a Canon 6D and a 40mm Ultron and an OM-D E-M1 and 12/17/75. If Sony brings something like a small 28 or 35 f2.0 and a small 85 something f2.0 then we can talk again. I’d bought a Sony A7 if there were the lenses with native mount, but there are not and I really do not know, why not. It is like to sabotage a whole system.
To be precise, the 6D is 170 grams heavier and also significantly bulkier, while having the same sized sensor. Of course, m43 has an advantage with the lens sizes, but we are not talking anymore 300 grams difference (6D vs e-m1). And, in the end, it all comes down to using small primes, if one wants a smaller system. I also have the Ultron and works just fine on my Sony, so there are plenty of lenses that will make for a small system, if you don’t use AF. As to native lenses, what do you expect for a one year old system?
With the Ultron on the A7 you have a good point. I don’t like adapters but that is just personal. If I’d go with an adapter I’d take the Voigtlander 35mm 2.5 Color Skopar for the A7. But there is not much info about that combo on the net. Do you have some?
Not yet. For the moment I just have SLII Voigtlanders. But googling “Voigtlander 35mm 2.5 Color Skopar for the A7” gives quiet many results 🙂
Between the lightest FF and the heaviest m43, not some GM5 with EVF… Which is not at all surprising as sensor weight is negligible. And it says nothing about lenses of course, and a bad of lenses is where the real difference is.
If we are speaking mirrorless specifically, which I think we are, the a7II is the heaviest FF. Sensor size might be negligible, but a bigger sensor requires more space. You do have a point though, of course. m43 is brilliant for portability. I simply mean that one of their major advantages has shrunk somewhat, but it certainly hasn’t disappeared.
Very positive, but the main weak spot, elatively speaking, is that the AF is not up to RS6000 levels. Maybe the A9 will up the game.
nb. if the A9 had a bigger battery, that would be nice too.
Olympus had a nice battery solution with their E1. It used regular (read small) batteries in the body, but when you attached the grip you gained access to better much larger battery for it. Small camera when you wanted it, big battery in the grip when you didn’t, perfect solution.
i don’t like the “review”. this is not a review.
It is what it is.
Or what it was. Or what it might be.
It’s not what it’s not
This is not a comment.
technically it is a comment and it is a review… 🙂 actually he is whining about what he hate about the old a7. i can do this about all sony products even without ever seeing them. that’s easy. very easy. it’s a sony…
There is no spoon.
Admin, please continue to group the worthy reviews in one post like you did here. You can put Diglloyd and Phoblo somewhere else. Also together.
Where the sun don’t shine.
How big does this guy need the grip to be???
Kyle Marquardt, the dope who praised Sony (almost jizzed himself) for changing to standard ISO MIS hot shoe, and mocked the Minolta iISO shoe saying “nothing fits it”.
Banning him until a public retraction is made. Just can’t trust his knowledge of Sony.
But he does have nice hair.
Sorry, not Kyle Marquardt… Chris Nichols from The Camera Store made that comment in earlier review of a99. Sorry Kyle, my mistake. Chris… please retract the comment. You have no idea how Sony destroyed the flash system.
Does Reichmann doesn’t know what he’s talking about… quote:
“Sony has had some of the world’s worst menu systems, and has made countless design mistakes with its camera’s ergonomics. But, they are nothing if not persistent, and after numerous iterations they pretty much get things right. This is the case with the A7 MKII. From the NEX 5 to the NEX 7 to the A7r, features, functions and interface have shown a steady improvement and enhancements, and I can say up-front that there is now little of substance that I find to criticise; a first for a Sony A or E mount camera.”
What do you mean “a first for Sony A”???? You dope Reichmann…
The freakeeeng E mount STOLE A mount menu system… You’re praising the same menu style since the a100.
OMG calm down, it’s the same bloody company! “Some” A-mount users here a worse than all the Canikon troll bunch combined!
Don’t you get it? Elpha praise is BECAUSE they’re adopting Alpha grips, stabilization, menus, and big boy lenses, and EVF. Elpha’s are cool because they’re becoming MORE like Alpha’s… what we already had… so don’t include Alpha’s in the list of previous problems.
Don’t promote Elpha hype at the expense of mocking genuine Alpha.
Can an inanimate camera mount steal a menu system?
When he said “a first for Sony A or E mount”, he was speaking generally, not just about the menu system.
The Sony 7II Shutter sound vs the A7s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G5ADcmaRF-Y
Concern Trolls, please chime in.
I hear the crickets.
Bad testing methodology. A different lens mounted on each body will alter the shutters acoustics!
I was going to buy the A7s before the A7II was announced. Now I’m tempted to buy the A7II or wait for the A7SII. I still think the strength of the original generation of A7 is they are in fact smaller than the second iteration of the model. Nikon and Canon? Unless you’re a pro shooting action or weddings, why not save the weight and go Sony?
Does that mean that Sony doesn’t make cameras good enough for the professional scene?
If you make money with it, it is a professional camera.
I’d shoot a wedding with an A7r / A7mk2 / A7s if offered!
I filmed a wedding recently (I’m a professional wedding videographer) where the wedding photographer was using an A7r alongside his older 5Dmk3
Buy them both, use them extensively…live like a king….tell people of your greatness….laugh at Canon shooters. I think the term for this is….Nirvana.
Sony has truly smashed the competition. RIP canikon and micro four thirds. Well done Sony.
More cameras…and no tele lenses.
4.5 years waiting for something beyond 210mm for Nex. (Good..after frustration bought a Nikon system ,,,otherwise I would have waited till eternity)
Has anyone brought this out on a horse riding trip yet?
Yep, the new (smaller dials) make it really hard for the horse to operate the camera with it’s hooves.
We recommend instead riding genetically modified apes for your riding excursions with your new A7mk2.
It was designed for hooves! Your horse doesn’t know how to hold it.
Nice! That’s some useful news about IBIS with adapter and thrid party lenses on LL
What was that about “only the 64gb sd card”??
XAVC-S requires a SDXC card, same for all models supporting XAVC-S.
a 32gb sdxc card wont work? with xavc-s?
No such thing as a SDXC 32GB. By definition they are >32GB.
I am dreaming of the A7SII. I’m pretty happy with my A7 as it is so I don’t quite feel the need to upgrade so soon, but I’ve been thinking about an A7S and if they give it IBIS…man. The thing is already a low light monster and to have IBIS added to it.
It’s the one instance where I’m hoping for a quick iteration.
Throw in some internal 4K and I’ll throw my money at it
Drool, a new A7s with IBIS & internal 4K….. I might not even do my usual thing of waiting for a camera to drastically drop in price, I might just pre order it even!
Oh man I forgot about that. If they make the 4k internal combined with the low light ability and IBIS..pretty damn powerful…here’s hoping!
Same here!! and with the new ergos! come on sony!!!
I love my a7r but I really like the changes sony made on the a7mk2
good “review”, but i can whine about all sony products even without ever seeing them. that’s easy. very easy. it’s a sony… sony: send me one a7II to show you what whining is all about.
I tried to be converted but the multiple A7s I tried were way worse than expected. No conversions for me, not in a million years.
But hey, Sony does not pay me, other people may be in different circs… It’s very difficult to live on photography, so more and more photographers turn to shilling, it’s understandable.
Your review is so compelling I totally get why you would want to stay away from the A7 system. The only thing worse than my A7 is the camera on my Motorola RAZR (original version) but even then it’s kind of on par. Get in my circ bro.
Ignoramus.
I bet you troll around looking for people to dollar. Or maybe on the weekend you yen. Because peso is comfy.
No conversion huh. You have yet to submit the the Sony Inquisition. It’s coming.
I like these guys. I feel like that’s the least biased review for a camera I’ve seen in awhile. Im just like everybody else, I can be prone to marketing whether I realize it or not; and so I appreciate reviews like this one. Personally I think I’m going to pass on this model but I like what Sony is doing. I still have my fingers crossed that Nikon can shrink the fm by 50%. That would be my perfect camera simply because of lens choice.
Also SAR management. I think it says a lot that you allow commenting as a guest. Thank you for not whoring out my email.
Plus one on every point.
funny!
the only complain the canon guy had its battery die too fast
“he will never bring that camera to artic”
just an idea.. can he keep the same canon bag, replace the dinosoaur dslr and fill the empty space with batteries?
man… canon guys had left winning about idiotic things, cause photos speaking they had been wiped by sony a7 line
People wanted a bigger grip, now they complain it’s to big. I’d be inclined to argue against this but then I’m reminded of the EM5/10. They should have went that route.