These are five new Sigma zooms for APS-C mirrorless system (Source: Egami). From all those lenses I hope to get the 18-55mm f/2.8 zoom. It’s a lens that’s highly missing in the E-mount range!
These are five new Sigma zooms for APS-C mirrorless system (Source: Egami). From all those lenses I hope to get the 18-55mm f/2.8 zoom. It’s a lens that’s highly missing in the E-mount range!
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Sigma; please do it:) save Sony APSC
Don’t hold your breath for Sigma. They are very slow to do anything, but even more so when we are talking about E mount. The truth is they don’t care about you or me or other fellow Sony user. All they care is how to milk most money by holding release of some lens until they know for 100% that this lens will make maximum profit. If other companies were like Sigma – we would have had only a tenth of what we have currently in terms of lens lineup. Sigma reminds me of Scrooge McDuck – they don’t care about users that wanted such lenses back in 2010 – they will release this lens in 2017 (maybe) when we will be so tired of waiting.
Who gives a crap about aps-c?!?!!? Just make FE lens!!
There is a place for APS-C lenses, especially for those that are getting into the system for compactness.
Each of these lenses is much larger than CZ 24-70/4
I doubt that.
APS-C is great! Because of the sensor size, I can use 35mm lenses as tilt-shift lenses! And it’s quite a bit more affordable!
Who gives a cr*p? Well, me for one. I moved _from_ FF to Sony APS-C. Why? I see _no_ advantage in full frame. My work is in the studio (where low light AF performance is important) that leads to large print gallery work. If my clients could see a difference between FF and APS-C, believe me, I’d have heard from them by now.
What do you use now, and have you got an online portfolio?
Sony doesn’t, that’s for sure!
cool
Well, then I guess APS-C isn’t dead. I’d prefer these were FE, so they’re compatible for Full Frame as well, but I’m glad to see Sigma getting more acquainted with the E-mount. Hopefully they’ll feel more comfortable jumping on production of some beautiful FE lenses soon.
How nice that Sigma sees value in the APS-C mirrorless Sonys. I certainly do. IMO they are a perfect balance between great IQ, price for body and lenses, and size of body and lenses. No question that the FE IQ is better, but really not much better.
“Better” image quality in Sony’s full frame E-mount comes either through more pixels (A7r) or with less noise at high ISO. For everything else I’ve found the A6000 and lenses to be lighter, less massive (as in mass), smaller, and easier to use.
Another 18-200? Why? Especially when Tamron has a 16-300 that isn’t bad.
and Sony has two of them 😀
Okay one is actually 95% the Tamron.
Sigma, stop mucking around and just bring out a FE 24-70mm f/2.8 already.
Finally a decent F 2.8 zoom for E-mount APS-C , Sony let come the A7000 now please.
18-55 2.8 please I will buy that in an instant, 5 axis stabilization in the A7000 please!
Yes 18-55 f2.8, take my money! Finally someone with a brain! (not Sony :O)
This is wonderful good news. Like many people here I’d be near the front of the line for either a f/2.8 18-55 or an 18-70 f/4. I really like the DN series in the studio and own one of each, but I could use the flexibility of a zoom lens for outdoor photography. If the new Sigs could better support the phase detect AF of the A6000 I’d be in Seventh Heaven.
I thought that a 16-70 f/4 OSS ALREADY exists?
Maybe you need to go to B&H or Adorama and get you one.
At that price? Zeiss is just a name and no indication of quality.
As already mentioned by others, there is even better lens – an excellent 16-70 f4 already in existence and it comes with OSS too. Comes with Zeiss badge as a bonus 😉
As for 17-55 f2.8 – it would be really huge, heavy, not the best match to small APS-C Sony cameras size-wise and besides it’s still not clear if it will have OSS and more importantly if it will take advantage of fast A6000 AF? We all know that current DN lenses are not fully compatible with fast AF and are on a slower side – rendering most of A6000 advatnages useless to be honest. Another big issue – what will be the price of such lens? If it’s going to be closer to $1000 or even more (very likely) – then not many people will shed the money for it. Finally, all this is just rumors and we have seen many times that patents are just that – patents and nothing more. Even when small percentage of patents make their way to real lenses – it takes years. Especially so for Sigma – they are known to be very slow to jump on new niche and usually they talk first and do things much later.
Or just give a LE-EA adapter without mirror that provides DSLR autofocus speed. In order to use the quality 16-50 A-mount on my nex
the problem here is not the adapter, but the camera body
And have it 3-4x the size and weight and no IS and using the outdated PDAF sensor? Nah.
3-4x the size!? Give me a break.
come on, i really want the 18-55mm f2.8
I assume these are intended for MFT as well. The current Sigma E mount lenses are, and that way they address two markets with one design.
do you mean the circle of light on MFT would be unecessary bigger?
The image circle will be a bit larger than MFT requires, but that’s not a problem. Of course the lenses will be abut
Anyway, I’m just pointing out that the current Sigma mirrorless lenses are available in both E and MFT mounts. Not just that, they have a mount conversion service which will apparently allow you to change your lens over should you change camera systems from one to another. I’m pretty sure if the current three (prime only) lenses are available for both mounts, then so will any new ones as the optical design will be identical.
Their conversion service converts only to those mounts than the lens has been released for; otherwise they have no spare parts for the lens.
Fair enough, but that includes all the E-Mount lenses to date as far as I’m aware (OK, that’s not exactly a lot I know). I’m not claiming they will convert a Nikon or Canon DSLR lens for instance.
The Q&A with the Sigma CEO specifically says that they use common designs for MFT and APS-C mirrorless, even if that’s isn’t optimal for the former. As these are “fly by wire”, then it’s probably some sort of modular mount system with lens firmware settings for the particular lens characteristics.
http://www.imaging-resource.com/news/2014/11/26/sigma-qa-kazuto-yamaki-micro-four-thirds-lenses-full-frame-foveon-feasible
None of these are appealing to MFT. Maybe the 140-400 equiv if it’s super compact.
Maybe, maybe not, but all I can say for sure is that the existing three Sigma mirrorless lenses are available on both, and they’ll even convert the mounts if you change systems.
Sigma ceo stated in a recent interview that they have no intention of desighning mft lenses because rhe market is too small and that aps c lenses can be used on mft cameras.
I think you are misinterpreting the statement. What I think it means is they aren’t designing any MFT specific optics, as the APS-C ones can be used (such as focal lengths matching “standard” FF FoV, or size optimised for the smaller image circle). The fact is that Sigma already sell APS-C lenses with an MFT mount (or they will convert a Sigma E-mount APS-C to MFT using their mount conversion service). It would seem a bit odd if they have the required electronic mount engineered for APS-C mirrorless lenses that they wouldn’t also make it available on MFT.
You can’t, of course, put an E-Mount lens directly onto APS-C as MFT has a slightly longer lens registration distance, so an adapter isn’t possible.
Of course, it’s possible to mount DSLR APS-C lenses onto MFT, but that’s suboptimal. I’m not sure that there are any adapters which support AF for MFT yet, and even if there are, it seems likely AF would be relatively slow if the experience of E-Mount AF adapters (A-mount apart) is any guide.
I ‘m interested in the 18-55 f2.8
16-55 f2.8 or 16-50 f2.0-2.8 like Fuji or Samsung would be even more appealing!
Original source talks about 17-55 and not 18-55, so I guess they will meet you halfway.
I’m with you on this.
I just can’t understand why manufacturers don’t just do the sensible thing and provide a 16-56mm f/2.8 , charge $1100 – $1200 dollars for it and get it over and done with.
Make it the standard “Kit” lens for enthusiasts to replace the standard kit lens(18-55) for Jane and John Doe.
Release them already!
Count me in too on a decent size 18-55 2.8. Almost everyone here feels the need for this lens, well almost everyone except Sony 😉
Depends what you will consider to be a decent size. A constant 17-55 f/2.8 (source is talking about 17-55, not 18-55) will be considerably larger than the current 18-55. If I take a look at Canon’s 18-55 vs 17-55 f/2.8 than the difference is huge.
my dream lens is FE30-90/2.8. i may even prefer f/4 if the size/weight is way smaller..
Well, I just realised similar dream even better, buying recently amazing Tamron SP AF F/2,8 35-105 for my Alpha 900. Excellent combination for portrait work. So I decided not to buy any A7 next year.
I notice a few intersting things about these lenses.
None of them seem to have oss
The focusing elements are all very small and light
They are all for aps c sisze cameras.
The first two mske senses for the new E mount cameras have IBIS and require small foxus elements
I wonder however if Sigma is concentrating on C size lenses at a time Sony is concentrating on ff cameras?
I think it makes sense. Sony is now concentrating on FF LENSES for the E-mount, so there is a hole for the APS lenses. And it takes time to develop a lens. So maybe these lenses are to be cheap and great, like the E-mount primes from Sigma. Would be great to have a 18-55 f2.8 lens stabilized or not…
It’s all about adaptability. Sigma can roll out the same design for apsc mirrorless bodies (Sony, Fuji, Canon). Given Sigma’s business model, it doesn’t make sense for them to go FF until there’s more than 1 player…
The link states 17-55 f2.8 OS.
I am not able to read the link as it is Japanese however if it mentions oss I stand corrected.
It’s in bold print in English.
The patent ( [JP,2014-209226,A]) does mention “vibration control”.
“The focusing elements are all very small and light”
Parroting something Sigma’s boss said in an interview does not make you look knowledgeable.
This is my statement…reflecting Sigma’s patent conformation to thier own stated desighn parameters..
Clearly you do not enjoy being compared to a fish so kindly do not compare me to a parrot.
I think it is extremely clear you would not have mentioned it had you not read the interview. At least be honest.
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A few years ago Lotus Eater attached himself to me and has been attached ever since.
He continuesly seeks out my comment and replies in the manner you see here or worse.
A true Candiru !
Barry, you’re losing it again. You can’t keep trying to bully people into not responding to or challenging your comments.
I’m sorry I dented your ego.
Change your name to Candiru.
You cannot acuse me of bullying you.
YOU continue to seek me out and make assinine insults
YOU have coninued to seek me out and have sunk you slimy little teeth into my …….. even though I do not answer your posts unless specifically directed towards me.
Even then I remain civil and polite to you on those rare occasions when you make a legitimate comment to me based on the topic rather than baseless personal attacks.
I have ignored you as much as I am willing to do.
You are the true incarnation of the Candiru…and that is my answer to you.
There was nothing personal in what he said. You are the one making personal attacks.
If Lotus Eater continues to remain attached to me like a Candiru then I will call him a Candiru…this dispute is 100% of his making and my comments to him appear only in his unsolicited responses to me.
I do not agree with your opinion of what is or is not an insult to me and Lotus Eater can end this anytime he wants…which he clearly does not want to do.
LOL at unsolicited responses.
It’s a public forum! People are allowed to disagree with you. How very arrogant of you.
You do it to yourself from what I can see
Then by your very own description of what people are allowed to say…
I can and will call a Candiru a Candiru until he stops acting like a Candiru.
You can say what you want of course, but you cannot complain when people reply to you with “unsolicited” responses. You will always be judged by your words on a forum, so if you post disgusting rubbish like you did above and behave generally badly, you will probably invite more “unsolicited” responses than average. I’m guessing you are an older gentleman, as you don’t seem to quite get it when it comes to posting on the Internet.
If you choose to adress only my comment while ignoring the years of repeated insults that solicit this comment than your perspective is distorted and that is your issue not mine.
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That is absolutely disgusting and I mean you, not the fish.
Actually, you’re wrong. Although new FF FE cameras have IBIS, nothing yet suggests it is coming to APS-C E mount.
18-200 travel lens ——> so bulky and so call as travel lens?
Yes.
I just can’t understand why manufacturers don’t just do the sensible thing and provide a 16-56mm f/2.8 , charge $1100 – $1200 dollars for it and get it over and done with.
I want a 28-135 FF lens. Best if its f.2,8. But that maybe to big. So i would go for a 28-135 f.4. And not the FE 28-135 with power motor. That is way to big
So you want another 28-135mm f4 in the FE lineup… yeah I hope Sony DO NOT do this.
Get the 28-135mm then. If they took out the motor it wouldn’t be that much smaller. Pick up a physics books while you’re at it.
I don’t get it.
Yeah, sure, the 18-55 F/2.8 seems to be in demand so that one makes some sense, but 3 out of the 4 lenses are something Sony already covers. What’s the point?
Why not do some focal lenghts that many people want and where there’s no competition at all?
Price primarily – According the 18-70mm F4 for example. And as in body stabilisation is coming, they don´t even need to implement an optical stabiliser any more ^^. Also important: They are maybe also coming for Micro 4/3. There a 18-70mm F4 would be GREAT! =)
There are no indications IBIS is coming to Sony’s APS-C cameras.
Not yet, but I would bet my house on it happening.
Sure – Actually there are no rumors. But if they can achieve it with a full frame sensor, why not with an APS-C too (it´s way easier). ^^
Sony, like Apple, has the size fixation. IBIS has added bulk to the original A7 design. Take the A5100 (and the A5000, and the NEX 5 models before it) as an example. Sony made size a selling point.
I’m not saying it won’t come, I just think it’s a generation or two away.
Hmm. Sure. But it´s Sony – They release a bigger A7000 (with internal stabilization and more “pro” features like the A7s – S-LOG 2, XAVC-S, internal 4K or at least 4K on the HDMI) and they still replace the A6000 with an A6100 (with minor upgrades). Just because they can (and that´s the way they work) ^^.
Sure – Maybe it´s coming later. That´s true.
But I still have the hope for IBIS in the next upcoming APS-C generation ^^.
I think Sony want to push people looking for “pro” features towards full frame. Sony used to like producing multiple models, but their recent troubles seems to have done them some good. They seem more focussed. They are reducing the model options. Frankly, there seems little point in offering more than two models in the APS-C size. The A5100, and the hopefully coming soon A6100. There are zero rumours about an A7000 model. Nothing. That’s just fantasy right now.
18-70 f/4 for m43 would be almost useless. No wide end at all, but no real tele either? Maybe 18-55/2.8, if that 18 magically becomes 12.
Not everyone will change his camera to one with ibis immediately… I bought an A6000 this week, not planning to change it in few months. In my opinion Sigma will build OS into the lenses
This is so Sigma! Bring on the cheap zooms! 😉
Another lens lineup limited to 200mm only. WTF? Why no 70 300 f4 5.6? Doesn’t that make more sense? I mean count them… Sony 18 200 3 versions, tamron 18 200, Sony 55 210, Sony 70 200 G, Sony FE 28 250, one more Sigma 18 200. NOTHING FOR 300! WTF’s the point of another 70 200?
Why not use A mount long lenses? Given A7 II has IBIS – how would native lens be better than 70-400 mounted on LA-EA4? Except that focusing with EA4 is many times faster and tracking is many times more reliable.
LAEA adapters use the A65’s AF module which is quite outdated. I would much rather buy the A77II instead. But again the A6000 AF is quite capable. Probably better than that A65. It would be best to use native lenses.
A6000 AF is better than A65 in good light on static objects. It is also better because it has wider coverage when needed. However, in AF tracking, in low light and on a center point AF, like many people use, A65 AF is still better.
I stopped using multi-point AF for most of my photography quite some time ago. I find that it is more reliable and faster to use a center point AF by framing, then focusing on something and then moving the subject back into frame and snapping a photo, rather than framing and half pressing a few dozen times, hoping that the camera picks the focus point that you want.
I also find that for APSC(don’t own a FF), A65 AF is plenty for tracking as well, as you can pick a side AF group for tracking subjects coming from left or from right. On my A65 I never felt the need for a more powerful AF module. And yes, I played with A77II and A6000.
Actually, scratch that, I felt the need once, in sunset lighting scenario, with a Tamron 70-300, trying to track a bird that was flying directly towards me. The camera locked on too late every time. Although I don’t recall if I was in a AF-S or AF-C mode.
18-70/4 may be my favourite if IQ is ok and price lower than the overpriced Zeissy 16-70/4
70-200mm f/4.9-6.0
good luck with that and no OSS
True to Simga’s statement that it’s “difficult” to design glass for the E-mount.
How so? It’s clear this will be intended as a lightweight compact design.
How do you know that, I would welcome 16-70 F 2.8 or at least this 18-55 if it is really small and performer
Incorrect. They said it was difficult to design for *FULL-FRAME* E-mount.
They have had no problem designing for APSC E-mount, so far.
And, where did you see no OSS on the 70-200? My probably-correct assumption is that all of those mentioned above will have OSS.
I stand corrected.
But had to chuckle at the “my probably-correct assumption”… neither one of us has a working crystal ball 😉 I would know: just like the mythical Sigma 50 1.4 Art for A-Mount, it’s been on perpetual “Not available yet” status.
That’s why I said “probably”. 😉
Ah, that reminds me, I have a modeling experiment to do… Christmas vacay should be a good time… – Bert
I wonder if Sigma and Tamron actually pull of an FE 24-70 f/2.8 before Sony does
Enough with the bogus ‘compactness’! If Sony is making a full transition to mirrorless, we need big bodies and lenses
I seriously doubt it. If size is big then Sony mirrorless makes little sense. Better for them to develop their existing A lens line up if size is not going to be much different.
Sony have shown no interest in developing their A lens line up so far.
Nor has Sigma or Tamron shown any inclination to make any sort of high end lenses for Sony E mount. Tamron started early with their 18-200mm and they never made anything beyond that.
Sigma seems to also be playing it safe by providing only low cost lenses for Sony E mount.
So no lens starting at 16mm for APS-C. What a turn-off. A quality light and small 16-70 F4 would be much better.
There is the Zeiss 16-70mm f4 already available. Sigma would want to fight at a cheaper price instead I believe.
The Zeiss isn’t exactly small, nor is it light.
The Zeiss is overpriced – Sony has to pay for the brand for no good reason.
There is the 16-105mm too…
Tokina is coming up with a new 11-20 wide angle zoom for APS-C…
What’s up with 18mm insanity? Somebody explain to them that it is not nearly wide enough.
Sony FE desperately needs at least a half-decent KIT (meaning cheap) lens to compete with Canon 24-105/4 and Nikon 24-120/4. Even overpriced 24-70/4 is not even close without a useful tele end, 28-70 should not even have been born, ever.
Boring…
LOL……Canon has already filed a patent for 70-400 for EOS-M
Ans Sony-Sigma is still making nth version of 18-200 🙂
http://www.canonrumors.com/2014/12/patent-ef-m-70-400-f4-5-7-2-stm/
Sony has filed many many patents. Very few translates into actual lenses being designed.
The huge number of EOS M lenses and bodies launched should tell you how serious Canon is about their mirrorless line up.
Great news. Finally something for the aps-c and hopefully affordable.