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As you know the [shoplink 38429 ebay]adapter company creator company Commlite[/shoplink] is developing the world’s first Nikon F to Sony E autofocus adapter. The very first version has been tested by Matt Granger and the performance was very bad.
But we have good news! Commlite added phase detection support on the latest version and released that video to show how much they improved the autofocus performance on the Sony A7rII:
They used the classic Nikon 50mm f/1.4 G lens ad I have to say it’s accurate and “ok fast” in bright light conditions! Nikon folks, your switch to Sony may just got a tiny bit easier! 😉
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“ok fast in bright light conditions” no doubt sounds very promising. All Nikon users just got in the line to buy a sony camera!
Well except those specialized in ghost and nighttime photography.
Does anybody know if the adapter will also work with the phase detection points of the original A7?
Unlikely – it almost surely relies on the same changes to the A7RII that allow PDAF with the LA-EA1/EA3
A7 phase detect is a gimmick – it just does not work. A7ii is way way better and A7r2 is way better than A7ii….I do not know if Sony can and will bring FW update to improve phase detect on A7 line. I doubt it since those cameras are much cheaper and Sony will make tons of cache if we buy A7r2
Even if it’s possible, Sony doesn’t want you to have it.
On sensor PDAF is just all Sony marketing hype. a7 is a joke, even a7rII isn’t fully there yet, but mostly ‘acceptable’ in most cases. We are still a few generations away from lightning fast DSLR level PDAF.
Yes, all hype, despite the fact that dpreview showed that the A7RII can outperform a D810 in low light.
A few generations? I think you overestimate.
But I guess that depends on what you mean by generation…
http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/society/everything-now-happening-for-a-generation-20150914101913
>dpreview showed
link please
Here: http://www.dpreview.com/articles/6884391759/sony-alpha-7r-ii-can-match-or-beat-dslr-low-light-af-performance
In AFS for still subjects you are right (and it works best with very fast primes, use f2.8 to 4 and things change, so the “outperform D810” is bound to specific initial conditions). Here I would like to see AFC in dim light with a change of the focus point to subjects at different distances. My A7ii refocuses only after half a second, the Nikons instantly. This is s.th. I often use at weddings. You see a different scene happening and turn the camera. With the A7ii refocussing takes too much time. Maybe the A7rii improved this?
Don’t forget that a 35mm can easier focus than a 50mm. The DoF is bigger on a 35mm.
Of course maybe the Sonys have to have better low light than Nikon because Sony’s flash system sucks.
I accept that Sony’s cameras provide more bells and whistles than Nikon’s do right now… But if I need a camera that is going to have to work with a flash I’m not going to use a Sony. My experience with Sony flashes has been iffy at best, while the Nikon flash systems just work pretty much flawlessly.
But hey the next time I need to capture photos of someone doing something in a coal mine with the lights turned off I’ll think Sony.
and DSLR PDAF still, and will always, have AF accuracy issues. Mis-calibration between the mirror, AF sensor, and imaging sensor are an inherent, and problematic, weakness to DSLR AF. Hence the need to obsessively MFA a lens (which can never fully be done accurately without regularly sending all of your lenses and bodies to Canon/Nikon)
My a7rII focuses just touch more slowly than my 5DIII when comparing them side by side…not materially slower in real world use. But the keeper rate is MUCH higher, as the accuracy is significantly better.
with Sony or Canon lenses?
In terms of accuracy? Sony or Canon lenses will be more accurate on a sony body
I meant, you said your a7RII focus a touch slower than your 5DIII ,but is that using Sonly lenses?
Nope. AF is really fast with both Sony AND adapted Canon lenses (the ones I own anyway).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eOCwCF1mNXc
It’s more than just marketing
A6000 and A5100 have PDAF, and both are way better than all NEXes before. And A7Rii is way better than all other A7.*
The people that speak about ‘acceptable’ in case of A7Rii, speak about ‘unusable’ in case of the 1st A7 generation.
*Except maybe A7Sii, because I haven’t seen any review
Yeah remains to be seen how good this really is. These seem to work properly with 2-5 lenses at launch. Third party testing is needed.
Demonstrate this with telephoto lens indoor tracking motion. Great honor and glory awaits the brave tester that does. Shame and humiliation await the timid testers who think demonstrating a 50mm lens performing single shot AF is any advancement over a 1985 Maxxum 7000 AF system… it’s not. Where is the revolutionary visionary evolution…? One step forward to get back to three decades ago…
Bring it on. Still have a almost a dozen Nikon mount lenses. Using some of them in MF mode now & then, but AF will mean they get a lot more use.
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If Commlite can team up with someone that knows something about optics and bring out a focal reducer that matches or beats Metabones– that would be the perfect adapter for video.
A manual iris ring via Nikon’s manual iris lever (and electricity for the **** VR function) is the best combination. All the glitchy half *** attempts to get EF iris operation to work via adapters is awful. And even if it worked, it’d still be annoying for video because it moves in steps, instead smoothly.
For now I buy the Nikon mount if the lens doesn’t have IS, and if it has IS, I buy the EF mount. I have such a motley crew of lenses. :p Fortunately I can mount almost all of them on an a6000 when I’m lucky enough to go take some pictures. Choices make life more complicated. 🙂
Why would you need a focal reducer when PDAF only supported on full-frame A7RM2?
Seems he only uses MF for Video on the A6000…..?
Just imagine you get one stop more light for the inner S35 crop section. On A7Rii, the S35 mode is said to be one stop better than the FF mode. And S35 is one stop worse than A7S.
With a focal reducer you can use S35-mode one ISO setting lower, it could match A7S in terms of low-light noise. At least it will come much closer.
I shoot on an a6000 but I shoot video on Blackmagic cams– and those bast***s are light hungry. I’m also hoping to pick up an FS700 now that they are practically giving them away.
I think in terms of S35 or asp-c more than full frame, so I get really excited when new options become available.
I know Sony thinks FF is the future, but Sony also thinks the future is smaller. I think Sony is half right. The next “Sony” to come along, probably Samsung, might develop a next gen sensor in APS-C that matches or exceeds what’s capable in FF. We’ve already reach a point where having more MP is becoming less needed. Lenses are the biggest barriers to entry for truly HQ photography- and FF lenses are a lot more expensive to make (and make well).
A7Rii in S35mode with speedbooster vs A7s:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lanOpBd5ZiE
And tell me what you think…
Wow. I hadn’t seen that. The exposure amounts seem about the same and the colors and sharpness definitely favor the a7r II. I wouldn’t have expected that. I had just about convinced myself that an FS700 was the was to go. I’m a little more uncertain now. 🙂
With an Atmos Shogun on the FS700 you come within 5% of the F55 image quality– and the recording options are way cheaper and more flexible. You can also put a speed booster on the FS700 but not the F5/F55.
Thanks. 😉
Not just a focal reducer, they should be able to make an adapter that does everything, focal reducer, drop in filter with variable ND capability, that would be a great reason to use adapters.
Speed comes with time, it’s not the body it’s the adapter that can’t be fast enough.
I wonder if they reverse engineered that Nikon adapter for their 1″ system.
Is the camera lighter than d750 when this is attached?
by a small amount yes.
Then to me it winds down to battery life and performance.
I’m looking for a relatively inexpensive 85 mm. So far, Canon 85 1.8 is not working with adapters. Nikon 85 1.8 may be an alternative with this adapter.
Does it work with manual focus at least? I was thinking of getting that lens for video use. What adapter are you using?
I just got me a SMC Takumar 85mm 1.8. Maybe you could go the way of manual focus?
I try to avoid buying the Samy 85 mm 1.4 which is a very good manual lens… I like this FL, so it should be easy and fast to use.
I won’t mix Nikon lenses with the rest of the worlds lenses, because Nikons MF-focus turn direction is the other way round.
As does Sony hence the Nikon…well the zoom at least
For my purposes I don’t really care how fast the AF works. I would have bought what they showed in the video in June. Looks like they went back to the drawing board when the A7rII was announced and instantly sucked all the air out of the room.
I just need an adaptor with electrical contacts, some degree of AF would be nice. What we’re actually getting is better and better vaporware.
Do you guys think that the next A6000 will have A7RII-like PDAF compatibility with these adapters? Would be quite nice.
That will justify all the delays for me at least the A6000 is already a beast of a camera, if the A7000 get stacked sensor with OSPDAF from the A7rII fully covered AND keep the speed in C-AF mode, that feature alone can easily overshadow the A7rII for the Camera of the Year.
Add IBIS and S35 4k with full pixel readout and they’ll probably outsell the A6000 in a couple of months, and I can bet it will be the strongest selling camera in many years.
Imagine the Sony A7000/6100 with the Nikon 300mm f4.0….it will a very compact birding device. Currently I use the Sony A77V….fingers crossed. If this combination works…it will a dream come true.
The more sophisticated this alleged product becomes, the higher the presumed price. Now I’d be paying for advanced autofocus capabilities that I’ll never use. A buyer would need even more legacy Nikon lenses to make it cost effective. I only have 2.
That would be pretty damn sweet! And if Sony could get similar IQ to the one Nikon gets out of the D7200, it would be great! The D7200’s photos look as good at the A7’s photos at high ISO.
IBIS and A7RII autofocus compatibility would be amazing indeed!