As you know Capture One has a “special relation” with Sony. David Grower from Capture One made a special introduction post on our SonyAlphaForum (Click here). Some highlights are:
– New Processing Engine
– New Color Editor Interface with the ability to create masks from Color selections
– LUMA Curves – i.e Luminance adjustment only with the power of the curve tool
– New brushing tools with Flow and Airbrush and easy straight line brushing.
– Curves now included as a Local Adjustments
– Keyword Library Manager and new Keyword tool
– Vastly improved rescaling engine
– Capture One Colors for DNG files
One more thing: User’s can receive a 10% discount using the code “AMBCRAIG” on Capture One Pro 9 Upgrades and on new purchases of Capture One Pro 9. The Voucher Code: AMBCRAIG works on the full purchase price or on upgrades.
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The voucher doesn’t actually work when upgrading from Pro 8 (for Sony) to Pro 9 (for Sony) 🙁
Yup. I read one or two brief use reports and apparently it has some performance issues. I’ll hold off for now I think. Pricey time of year.
That’s really frustrating. I was looking for a LR alternative, just because of the performance issues. The ugly truth is, LR gets slower and slower with every release, but it is still the “fastest” (least terrible) on the market.
Why do they add loads of “new” features, mostly the x-th flashy variation of editing the same tone curve, but can’t address the most important thing, workflow performance?
I’ve worked on graphics software, and performance under heavy load (loading and editing many images) is one of the toughest issues because it involves Windows’ own memory management and it isn’t totally under your control. And, it’s just hard stuff to figure out because visibility into that memory management is very limited. Management would always rather have you spending time on some flashy new marketing bullet point.
if your using a desktop system, a good graphics card does help quite abit in c1, if you turn on opencl, seems amd cards are better at the moment for this, think it can use multiple cards but not sure on how effiecent that is.
and you could go mostly solid state for the disk part too
MacPro 8-core 3 GHz, Geforce GTX 770 and SSD is surely not the latest, but should be enough for editing 18 MPix RAW files. The constant lag in preview rendering is not acceptable. LR 3 was way faster than the current version. What is the point of features like face detection, when it slows down the workflow instead of accelerating it?
There is no real editing improvement since LR 3, except local adjustments. Why is RAW software so f*cking slow these days? Photoshop is magnitudes faster.
We have Video software that can edit HD in real time, but we have to wait 3-4 seconds for a single preview rendering in LR 6. I know, apples and oranges, but i still don’t get why RAW software has to be so damn inefficient. Instead we get resource hungry UI gimmicks and useless features like face detection.
The other thing that bugs me, is that we are forced to upgrade the whole software just to get current lens and camera profiles. That could easily separated from the application.
in thorey capture one and lightroom work on proxy files most of the time, but the reason itll be slower than photoshop is demosiacing and calculating stuff based on the raw data, while photoshop is past that stage.
sigma pro photo works directly on raw and is slower
Capture One 9s engine is much faster very impressed.
I have the same problem! ??
And also Photoshop and Premiere updates with some neat stuff!
I have worked with C1P 8 for almost a year now.
I highly, highly recommend anyone here to try it out.
Works extremely well with 2 and 3 monitors. Session speed is better than Lr catalogs and the RAW developer part, at least for Sony files, is a great improvement.
I’ll go with C1 9 after finishing my current assignment. For 50EUR for a Sony license, you really have an outstanding developer for little money and the fact they offer perpetual licenses means you actually own what you pay for.
I really like what C1P does with my RAWs but I just can’t come to grips with the catalog management. I’ve been teetering between C1P and LR for a year now and still can’t make up my mind…
Catalog management is same as Lr, but I highly suggest you use sessions. It’s easier and faster. Especially if you keep adding stuff into it (like a project running over many days) then you just need to throw the new photos into the same capture folder of that project and done.
Look at sessions, that’s what I use. Easy peacy lemon squeezy.
Time I put a little more effort into sessions then. Thanks!
Yep. My way of working is like this.
Say you work on project AB1, and this project is just for one day:
1) Open C1 and create new session. C1 will ask you where to place the new session. I place mine in the standard “pictures” folder and in that folder C1 will create the project’s folder called AB1 because that’s how we’ll call it.
2) C1 turns off and relaunches with AB1 Session. In the file “tab” for browsing, you’ll see your folders: Capture, Rejects, Output and Selects. These are actual physical folders created in your computer.
3) Dump everything you shot from your cards on AB1 into the “Capture” folder as you would do a simple copy/transfer without any program. No need to restart C1, if you select the Capture folder, you will see your files appear 1 by 1 as they are dumped into the folder from your cards.
4) Carry on until you emptied all your cards and all your files will be automatically recognized in the Session.
4.1) If project AB1 ends up lasting more days, just repeat step 3. No need to turn on C1 to dump files into your Session, because as long as they are dumped into the “Capture” folder, you’ll see them in your AB1 Session next time you launch C1.
4.2) You can launch C1 from the “Session” file that is created inside the AB1 Folder (the folder that contains the other folders of Capture, Selects, Rejects, Output) so you don’t need to open C1 and navigate to “Open Session” if you don’t want to.
Again, thanks, I’ll take a good look into sessions this weekend. A couple of questions, if you don’t mind, how do you organize/archive photos when you’re done processing? And how do you manage your personal photos?
So, When you create a Session (say, AB1) then the session’s name is AB1 and the “master folder” is named AB1. Inside it, the 4 basic folders and your photos.
New project (say, AB2) creates new master folder with all of the properties of the above structure. Same goes for the rest of the projects you create with Sessions. My “pictures” folder that holds all of these projects then contains folders like this:
AB1
AB2
C32
XXG
and so on… based on the Sessions/projects I shot and created.
Once you process stuff in C1, I believe C1’s “changes” are saved in a folder inside the “Capture” folder called “CaptureOne” because it has a folder called “settings” inside it.
Before archiving all the projects (taking them to another drive to empty the local ones) I output full res “master” finished images of all the images that made that project complete. Say, out of 1000 photos, you chose 20, those 20 get processed and those 20 I would output 20 full res tiffs or jpegs (up to you) to make sure that if the C1 Session file or settings get corrupted, at least you got finished versions of your work.
Once I do that, I move the Project/Session folders (AB1, AB2, etc) to another drive with everything that lies in them. That way, when you want to recall that Session, all you do is navigate to the C1 Session file and double click on it to launch C1 and it will start up on the last window/ last photo selected.
My personal work is managed just like my projects, but I accumulate them in a monthly basis, thus making a month = project. “2015 10” would be the name of the Session which is the name of the folder which is the name of the “project”.
Thanks SAR for the voucher code. Worked fine for upgrading. Saved me 10 EUR :-))
I’m thinking I’ll eventually move from LR to C1P. The catalyst will be Adobe’s downgrading of the standalone LR. I tried C1P recently and there were really only 2 issues for me – one, that Curves wasn’t a local adjustment; two, the extremely limited retouch/clone tool. Looks like the first one has now been addressed.
Standalone LR hasn’t been downgraded at all.
future tense:
“eventually”
“will be”
Adobe haven’t made a single mention of downgrading LR. In fact they’ve confirmed the opposite. But if you want to make decisions off baseless rumors, go right ahead…
Any video support in the catalogue yet?
“The Voucher Code: AMBCRAIG works on the full purchase price or on upgrades.”
does not work for my Pro8 for Sony !!
Once again, this new version BLOCKS accepting files from my Pentax 645z with it’s Sony made sensor. I have 2 words for the freaks at PhaseOne after YEARS I’ve spent an absurd amount of money investing on CaptureOne from version 3 till version 8: SCREW YOU!
I’m assuming you bought the Sony only version of Capture One, in which case your issue is ridiculous. Pextax is not Sony. The RAW file is not a Sony format file. If you want support for a non-Sony camera, buy the full version, just like everyone else has to.
Of course I’ve bought the full version. I’ve been using the full version of CO since v.3. And buy they way, CO for Sony users is free.. you are funny..
Whaaat? Is it free for Sony users???
There is a free Express version of Capture One for Sony, the Pro version is paid.
If you can’t open your RAW files it’s because they’re not supported, not because they’re being blocked. What format are you shooting in?
There is no PEF RAW file converter for a Pentax 645Z you may have to shoot TiFFs or possibly DNG if you want to use it. Check ere https://www.phaseone.com/en/Products/Software/Capture-One-Pro/Supported-Cameras.aspx