Just a heads up. With all those new FE lens and converters announcement you may have missed that Sony also announced new wide and fisheye converters for the 16 and 20mm APS-C E-mount lenses. I now updated the preorder list and includes the links to thw two APS-C converters. Not that the European links also do show image samples taken with the new converters:
In Europe at:
Zeiss 35mm f/1.4 FE at Sony Germany, UK, FR, IT, ES, NL, BE, AT, CH, SE, FI, NO, PT.
Sony 90mm f/2.8 FE at Sony Germany, UK, FR, IT, ES, NL, BE, AT, CH, SE, FI, NO, PT.
Sony 24-240mm FE at Sony Germany, UK, FR, IT, ES, NL, BE, AT, CH, SE, FI, NO, PT.
Sony 28mm f/2.0 FE at Sony Germany, UK, FR, IT, ES, NL, BE, AT, CH, SE, FI, NO, PT.
Wide Angle converter at Sony Germany, UK, FR, IT, ES, NL, BE, AT, CH, SE, FI, NO, PT.
Fisheye converter at Sony Germany, UK, FR, IT, ES, NL, BE, AT, CH, SE, FI, NO, PT.
Wide angle converter for 16 and 20mm lenses at Sony DE, UK, FR, IT, ES, NL, BE, AT, CH, SE, FI, NO, PT.
Fisheye converter for 16 and 20mm lenses at Sony DE, UK, FR, IT, ES, NL, BE, AT, CH, SE, FI, NO, PT.
In USA at:
Zeiss 35mm f/1.4 FE at Amazon, Adorama, BHphoto.
Sony 90mm f/2.8 FE at Amazon, Adorama, BHphoto.
Sony 24-240mm FE at Amazon, Adorama, BHphoto.
Sony 28mm f/2.0 FE at Amazon, Adorama, BHphoto.
Sony Fisheye Conversion Lens for FE 28mm F/2 at Amazon, Adorama, BHphoto.
Sony Ultra-Wide Conversion Lens for FE 28mm F/2 at Amazon, Adorama, BHphoto.
Sony Fisheye Converter for E 16mm F/2.8 and E 20mm F/2.8 at Amazon, Adorama, BHphoto.
Sony Ultra-Wide Converter for E 16mm F2.8 and E 20mm F2.8 at Amazon, Adorama, BHphoto.
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Sony’s has converted me to the competition.
Kiddy toys playing pro.
Byeeeee! Don’t let the url hit you on the way out
Better IQ or just change of color into black?
what are the differences?
Didn’t miss that but I really miss A9 rumors :-!
me too. at this stage they could easily profit from the canon-induced “megapixel war” with a model that’ll be light-years ahead of the 5ds/r, technologically. personally, id love to see an rx2 with curved sensor, global shutter and possibly a fast zoom lens – knowing ill be waiting for another 2 yrs at least. cant help dreaming though.
lol did you guys hear? The FE 35/2.8 may have been a “Sony Tamron” branded Zeiss lol
It never was a Zeiss lens. It was a Sony lens, designed with the aid of Zeiss. If Tamron was involved in the design or manufacture, who gives a flying fck?
I know it was never Zeiss, but this is “Sony Tamron” branded Zeiss, even worse than Sony branded Zeiss, the cheapest using the second most expensive brand.
The cheapest? The second most expensive? You really are clueless, aren’t you?
Yeah maybe we’re missing Schneider and Lensbaby in the count but so what, you get the point, don’t be stupid.
If the lenses are as good as my Tamron 70-200/2.8vc or 90mm macro (both excellent even on D810), I’m fine with it.
Its Zeiss optics with Sony electronics and AF.
‘May’ is the operative word there. ‘May’ is the same as a guess pulled out of someone’s a$$.
There was a patent filed by Sony and Tamron that had a lens design exactly like the 35/2.8’s. Your a$$ must have drawn up that design by accident.
That wouldn’t surprise me, I have a very talented a$$.
It is not just the dedign, but also the glass itself that makes a Zeiss a Zeiss.
I tend to agree with you, but that would only narrow the range of lenses that qualify as real Zeiss.
Sony already degraded Zeiss brand -with their poor QC
You mean like Panasonic and Leica…
Them too…
Let’s hope these and the old ones will also work with the new 28/2 on APS-C bodies, namely the 0.75x uwa..
It might mount, but quality is sure to be pretty bad
sorry VCL-ECU VCL-ECF does not works with 28mm f2
it fits on 28mm f2 but the lens does not focus and has heavy vignette ,
but the new Fullframe converters works fine with 16mm f2.8
im curious about this setup, so in fullframe mode, do you get heavy vignetting?
or are you using crop mode which I assume should be fine.
Not a good news but thanks for the info. At least both old ones work with my cell phone which comes handy 😉 (Samsung Galaxy S4 Mini, will probably work with others too)
Admin…. Do you have any new info about a possible A7000 or A6100
Tnx
Oh dear. So after about a 3 year wait for new APS-C glass, Sony have released WA adapters which will degrade two of the worst performing E-mount lenses even further? And this is supposed to be enough when they’re announcing a ‘Pro-level’ NEX-7 replacement shortly? Get real. Seriously glad I moved away from them to m4/3 right now.
the adapter has been exist for long time…..
You could have switched to your phone and have the same result as m43.
( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
Some phones are even better. M43 really is the joke of the camera world.
Oh dear. These adapters have been available for some time. You obviously didn’t look very hard.
Glad you moved away. Makes me wonder you bother to moan about a system you no longer use though.
I moved from m4/3 to Sony.
I liked my Panasonic but it was quite useless after 4pm.
I moved from m43 to phones. The picture quality is similar, and phones are cheaper.
those wide adapters exists for the 16mm long time ago… am i wrong ? Are they different from them ?
yea, they are black now 🙂
not new. but good. a cheap solution to get 12mm, i have it and love it.
Maybe we missed it ??????? ……
Maybe we really don’t care !!!!!!
The difference to the previous version seems to be, that they now work or have been designed for both the 16 as well as 20mm lenses. Don’t know if that means the performance for the 16mm has improved or gone down, thought. I have the old Fisheye converter with the 16mm and it is a really nice combo and very affordable (I got it used for not so much).
Lens Configuration seems to be unchanged from version 1 to 2:
http://www.sony.net/Products/di/en-gb/products/lenses/lineup/detail/vcl-ecu1.html
http://www.sony.net/Products/di/en-gb/products/lenses/lineup/detail/vcl-ecu2.html
http://www.sony.net/Products/di/en-gb/products/lenses/lineup/detail/vcl-ecf1.html
http://www.sony.net/Products/di/en-gb/products/lenses/lineup/detail/vcl-ecf2.html
…plus the old converters were usable with SEL-20F28 already:
http://www.dpreview.com/forums/thread/3398289
Seems only the colour got changed from silver to black, which formerly didn’t fit to the black SEL-20F28, of course.
These are pretty meaningless products released, but I think the problem is that Sony doesn’t have the budget to redesign every piece of optic released.
They seem to have an abundance of manufacturing capability though, making converters that only work on two lenses in two colors…
SEL-16F28 pus both Converters were quite nice with 14MP and 16MP NEX cameras. They worked acceptable with 24MP after NEX-7 Firmware Update and they are good enough for Video Resolutions anyway. For budget solutions their quality was and is awesome, while SEL-1018 or the Samyang/Rokinon FishEye are the pricier alternatives. Absolutely nothing to complain, I think, since I enjoyed these Converters very much with my NEX cameras.
Concerning the old Converters on SEL-20F28 and SEL-16F28 there’s been another comparison here: http://ichie-inc.blog.so-net.ne.jp/2013-03-12 – so I’d still like to know if there are differences beside the colour…
I think that if these were optically reworked, they’d have advertised on that…
I do not understand Sony… 16/2.8 & 20/2.8 are the poorest IQ Sony lenses and they decided to make and bring for them a new (almost the same as current) WA converters? Are they serious? Who cares? This means Sony is not going to bring any soon and improved 16mm lens for A-PSC (and “High End A7000”), best with f2 . So, we all wait for new and faster APS-C lenses like f/1.8-2 but Sony brings WA adapters for the poorest lenses… They should learn from Fuji how to make lenses.
FE on the 16 is super, I think. They made already two new for FF, so I guess it was a quick win to redesign the aps-c converters in one go as well so they would also work o the 20mm as well.
16/2.8 is terrible, but 20/2.8 is very nice: small and sharp.
right, all we need now is a 24/1.8 pancake and non zeiss at a price we can pay for it.
the only bad thing its more than 50% price increase for the new ones
i guess black paint its more expensive
or maybe they put a high price tag to try to make the FE versions look less expensive
It’s amazing how poorly Sony treats the (growing) diving community : not a single proper fisheye lens, only these poor quality alternative, to attach to even poorer quality lens like the 16mm!
MFT have now 3 fisheye prime extra quality lenses, sigma has one for A-mount, why don’t we divers get a good one for E-mount, either for the apsc and FF?
Samyang 8mm is so good there’s really no point in waiting for sony, unless you need af.
you just hit the point : there are no domes in which you can from outside the housing control both focus and aperture rings…a real pity, the samyang is a great great lens.At a stage, there were still some hopes of an autofocus samyang…but it all vanished..in water !
We, and I speak here for many APSC users as well, wuld like to see new glass from Sony for the system, specially more luminous glass and in price ranges one wants to pay, not the bue labeled overpriced stuff.
Where remains the new 20 mm pancake they spoke about. A more luminous 24 mm lens, smaller, more flat, and non Zeiss would fit me. I use Minolta glass with adapter in MF with fantastic results. But, for tourism a small sized 24 in AF would be a good thing. The Zeiss 1.8 one is to long and too expensive. Sigma made 2 good ones, the 19 and the 30 beside the 60. But none of those focal legth fit me. Hope we will see somthing in a the near future.
If Canon can make a very small and high IQ 22/2 for eos-m – why is Sony not all over this and making the same lens for e-mount? The e-mount would be fantastic with a lens like the Canon ef-m 22/2. But I guess you have to chose – bad body/great lens OR great body/bad lens.