Samyang VDSLR Range – A quick guide
Let’s help out Samyang by letting them know if you would buy a special NEX-FF version of their current Full Frame E-mount Cine Lenses. The NEX-FF version should be half the size of the current Cine Lenses but mantain the main lens specs and price. These are the current Cine Lens specs:
14mm T3.1 Cine Lens for Sony E sold as [shoplink 21135 ebay]Samyang (eBay)[/shoplink], [shoplink 21136 ebay]Rokinon (eBay)[/shoplink], [shoplink 21137 ebay]Bower (eBay)[/shoplink].
24mm T1.5 Cine Lens for Sony E sold as [shoplink 21138 ebay]Samyang (eBay)[/shoplink], [shoplink 21141 ebay]Rokinon (eBay)[/shoplink], [shoplink 21142 ebay]Bower (eBay)[/shoplink].
35mm T1.5 Cine Lens for Sony E sold as [shoplink 21143 ebay]Samyang (eBay)[/shoplink], [shoplink 21144 ebay]Rokinon (eBay)[/shoplink], [shoplink 21145 ebay]Bower (eBay)[/shoplink].
85mm T1.5 Cine Lens for Sony E sold as [shoplink 21147 ebay]Samyang (eBay)[/shoplink], [shoplink 21146 ebay]Rokinon (eBay)[/shoplink], [shoplink 21148 ebay]Bower (eBay)[/shoplink].
Ok, and now imagine Samyang launching them as special compact NEX-FF lenses (half the size of the cine lenses and manual focusing only):
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I will forward the poll results directly to Samyang!!!
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35mm or 50mm 2.8 pancake
Could we have a vote about what G-lenses we would like pleeease ???
For my part I’m not at all interested in Samyang lenses. I leave that to EOS owners 😉
I really don’t care for cheap lenses with low build quality from samyang.
for a sony nex ff I think sigma or zeiss are the way to go. but it won’t be cheap but the whole system won’t be cheap. if you want “cheap” compact high quality fullframe you have to go with the rx series. otherwise your much better of with aps-c. except you really need the shallow depth of field and don’t want to use a speedbooster. then you get nex ff and use cheap legacy lenses.
Hmm, I find Samyang lenses to be rather well built.
Samyang have just announced the release of the 10mm f2.8 rectilinear for E mount but I’m hoping for the lens in A mount in early 2014.
But that would be APS-C. If it is sharper than my 10-18, I’ll go for it.
Yes Vlad, it was due for release in A mount this year but was put back to Q1 2014. It’s coming for E mount soon. Samyang lenses are a mixed bag, some excellent, some disappointing but I’ve put off buying an alternative UWA in the hope that it will be worth the wait.
I just want some fast autofocus lenses. If I was Sony I would commission Sigma or Olympus to design a whole set of 1.4 primes for it, and make it a top priority. Perhaps Olympus would be better as the lenses would need to be fast focusing.
If Sony want to ‘win’ in this camera business game I think it should go ‘all in’, and be way ahead of the competition. Right now Fuji is strong competition because it has faster glass, which makes up for the APSC sensor size.
Sony has so much potential it’s unreal, but it’s dedication to fast lenses is not equivalent to their camera bodies. I don’t know who the problem is, perhaps Zeiss is the one dragging their feet, or charging Sony obscene amounts for F1.4 design/manufacturer. If it is Zeiss holding Sony back then Sony need to ditch them asap.
By the way, if Samyang can put is fast contrast detect AF motors I would definitely buy them, I would even pay double the prices suggested.
Hmm.. I see your point: if they can’t assemble optics properly, they could add motors which would focus their lenses to infinity. And ditch the DOF scale.
Very much depends on the Alpha support, if Alpha lenses works Zeiss got me all covered. Might consider replacing the Minolta 35F1.4 with a Zeiss SSM version in the future (are not going to by a F2.8 lens)
The hole point of nex FF is small wide angle lenses with almost no Distortion.
I have the Samyang 24mm tilt shift and would like a nex FF version without the distortion and half the size and weight.
35mm is the most boring focal length ever. Do you guys have no imagination? If you want 35mm then use a zoom lens. That was literally the only lens of the group that I didn’t pick.
If you have so much imagination how come you find the 35mm boring?
You should write a thesis explaining how 35mm FOV determines a lack of imagination.
It could be a best seller. NYT would call it “the masterpiece of modern photographic thought” and the LA Times concurs saying that it should be “something to be taught in photographic kindergarten. You cannot get any more eye opening than this. Someone has finally cracked the code to photographic excellence.”
WTF!
Sorry, I was responding to Andrew.
Andrea, you do know that there are also photo-versions of theese cine-lenses?
they might be better suited for some of the readers and actually were there first 😉
concerning poll:
I own 35mm and 85mm and they are both fantastic, I would consider buying smaller ones if I had the money for the FF-NEX.
And I’d be especially interested in the rumored 50mm 1.2 they are going to release!!
Serious question, I notice that when Samyang put out an e mount version of one of their SLR lenses it is physically longer – so wouldn’t it be better to by the EF mount and an adapter?
That way, you can optionally use a speedbooster (for a apsc nex) – two focal lengths in one lens
It depends on the lens, I guess. The 8mm fisheye does have a smaller mirrorless version.
As for having two focal lengths, personally, I would go for a second APS-C camera than for the speedboster.
Zeiss lenses.
a 50 mm lense 1.4 and a 17 mm shift lense as a partner to the 24 mm shift lense that would be awsome, can you pass that to samyang also:-)) Cheers Andy
17/18mm f3.5 or 20/2.8
Dear Samyang, e-mount is open interface. Please add AF.
got their 35 T1.5 and 85 f1.4 and absolutely love them, especially the 85 – the best price/performance lens that I ever had
if the weight and size would be actually halved I’d buy all of them
The favorite topic on SAR, Samyang lenses… 😐
14 and 24, for these af is not so essential, and unlike with 35 and 85, at these focal llengths a sony/zeiss af lens is unlikely to come any time soon
Come on, let’s get realistic: you can’t expect lenses of this speed to be half the size! Half the size means at least one, probably two stops slower, at least at FF.
No love for wide angle lens?
14mm is wide!
Yeah, but it gets the least votes… huhuhu.
Come on someone, make a decent E mount 100mm macro lens already! ! 🙁
I have 14 and 85 in F-mount version.
Both are perfect, so have voted for them.
Well at least somebody’s got some sense. But it should be Zeiss releasing lenses in these specs in the first place.
85mm F1.4 of course!!!! Not F1.5!!!!
There seems to be just one gap in prime lenses on the market today – 17/18mm fullframe. 14/2.8 is too wide for general use and 24mm not wide enough, so I just want Saymang (or anyone) to manufacture 17mm f/4 or 18mm f/4 for DSLRs (there are a few possible small light solution for nex as it is, so it’s not a priority for me now, but it would still come handy with adapter on nex-ff). Preferably f/4 so it’s small and light (even plasticky) with low price, so I can leave my Nikon 14-24/2.8 at home from time to time. Also given the focal legth and f-stop, it’s ideal lens for manual focusing and no one else makes it today (except Canon 17mm TC-E, which is something else entirely), it would sell a lot I think.
The discontinued Tokina 17/3.5 is close to ideal, smallest possible, 470g (could do with less metal), but the corner performance is ok at f/8+ which is not ok 😉
Have you considered the Voigtlander 20mm?
yes, but it’s those 3mm that separates the 17mm (preferably) from 20mm and 14mm. In my experience, 20mm is not wide anough most of the time, also used Nikon 20/2.8 would be better optically I think. So there just is a place for one lighter lowcost 17/4, but no one cares I guess. If Nikon AF-S 18-35mm f/3.5-4.5G could weight less than 400g, imagine the half sized prime with similar built.
Yes, I see. The only other lens I can think of is the Tokina 11-16, which works on FF at 15-16mm. But then, it isn’t really small or light (560g). Btw, weren’t there some 18mm Nikkor lenses?
Is the 20mm Nikon really better than the Voigtlander, I’ve never tried that lens?
Yes, there was Nikon 18/2.8 I think, also not very good (and some 18mm Sigma, different versions of Tokina 17mm too). Checking the photozone, the Nikon 20/2.8 seems to have better corners stopped down a bit and it’s with f/2.8 possibility, while Voigtlander 20/3.5 never reaches reasonable corner at all – it’s probably too small with some optical compromises – it’s cute at least 😉 but not cheap.
Contax 18mm f4
I don’t think the 18mm Contax can be adapted to Nikon though.
What about the Minolta MD 17/4?
Yeah! It’s great, but who has one? (I do :-))It’s extremely rare!
There is an eerie silence in the rumor front…
Is there any postprod on the video or it’s the real quality of colours and image we have wiht the camera? Would love such quality on my camera… please Sony do it :p
24mm f/4 or f/5.6 pancake 🙂
I liked the video with the samyang T-S 24 mm lens. Did anyone test it yet?
T stop does not equal F stop. T stop refers to the actual light that is transmitted after passing through all of the elements, f-stop refers to the aperture size (and does not measure or compensate for light loss). So a T 1.5 could be an f 1.0 or f 1.2.
No way will they gonna make all those lenses in a special E-mount optical redesign to reduce the size.
We can be lucky if they make one dedicated E-mount lens and release it in the next.year
I voted none necause i onl use macro snd long lenses
If the 86mm was a high quality macro i would change it to yes.
Also would like to see something like the celestron c8 with f6.3 focal reducer.
This is a f10 2035mm 8″ schmitd cosegrian.
Thats 2 spherical mirors and no glass optics.
The adapter (4 glass elements) reduces the focal length to about 1250mm and the f stop to 6.3.
It also flattens the focal plane.
How exactly are you expecting an E-mount specific version to be HALF the size? I understand a lens designed specifically for the shorter flange distance would be somewhat smaller, but it’s still a full-frame lens.
I’m assuming they’re looking at the best rangefinder lenses… short flange distance, FF coverage, compact size, high quality. The current Samyang offerings are all modified DSLR formulas, not rangefinder formulas.
What about similar lenses for current compact system cameras? The Noktons or SLR Magic lenses, for example, are still quite large. Not Samyang 35mm f/1.4 large, but still large.
I would expect E-mount full-frame lenses will, in general, be larger than current E-mount APS-C lenses, which are already disproportionately large.
If Samyang could make a set of anamorphic cine primes, whether for NEX-FF or for A-mount FF, I would be all over them in a heartbeat. I am sure a number of filmmakers would want them. I know that’s not something they make yet, but of the companies out there, Samyang is the one I think would do it. They could make a killing as there’s a lot of demand with few choices right now.
Shouldn’t the 24mm be cheaper on E-mount, since wide angles are easier to make for mirrorless cameras?
These are the same as the A-mount lenses with even a dumb $15 adapter. It doesn’t matter what you “want” – you’d be an idiot to buy a dedicated E-mount version when you get EXACTLY the same package with the ability to use on a different system by buying what is already available.
And hell, they’re cheaper than your hypothetical! (14mm $329, 24mm $549, 35mm $379, 85mm $249 (Pentax mount)
Well not for my nex. But what I would have wished to see since quite a while are PL-Mount versions of their Cine Lenses. (Especially the wide ones as the 16mm T2.2)
It’s next to impossible to find affordable Wide and Fast PL-Mount lenses.
Where is the 50mm? Don’t they plan to build one themselves???
I vote fore Samyang 135/1.8(1.5)!!!! 🙂
a lens which doesn’t fall apart would be nice