The Indonesian agency Postel registered the name of a new Sony interchangeable camera having the code “WW024382“. Last time I saw that kind of code the A7s had been announced the 3-4 weeks after. As you see on the screenshot APS-C E-mount cameras are registered with their real name (ILCE-5100 which is also going to be announced soon). I have no reliable info yet about a new FE camera so don’t get too excited for now. Anyway, I hope this will be Sony’s high-end A9 🙂
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I hope it’s a full frame sensor in an A6000 body.. just love that look!
You can hope lol
ROFLMAO
+1 and 24 mm f2 combo
Where do we get the clue of FF there? Why wouldn’t this be the a5100?
Because that is listed 3 lines down?
Damn! I really didn’t pay attention to anywhere else but the red marked area…
LOL
Do we really need another new camera body from Sony? Shouldn’t they focus on full frame lenses..
You can always use jars. Jars are great for abstract photography. Glasses and ash trays too…
Just make sure they are empty, it keeps down on the weight, although I find that a jar of treacle makes a great 10 stopper ND filter.
Not sure about ILCA, though.. Should be IJCA
There are two separate teams at Sony, one that design and develop new cameras the other do it for lenses. The reate new cameras comes out is to keep the first group at work, the design of new lenses is a very complicated and expensive job, as every A7x lens is realy new, not just a small upgrade, so it takes time to get the good lenses out…
Which is why they should give it to Tamron to do. Sony clearly do not have the resources, they have lens issues across both A and E mount. Updating Minolta lenses would be a trivial task and fill a few holes in the range.
Updating Minolta lenses? To E mount? :
I didn’t say E mount.
Well we _are_ talking about E mount in this post…
So? Good for you. If you don’t understand what ” they have lens issues across both A and E mount” means then I can’t help that.
1. No one cares about A mount any more.
2. Stay on topic (e.g. see point #1 above).
Modifying A-mount lenses to E-mount is not a great idea as it won’t make use of the short flange distance. You’ll just end up with a bulky lens (bigger than the A-mount version) with some form of modification to add an AF motor (which can be non-trivial). It’s a bit better than using an adapter, but not much.
It’s not a great way to go. Unfortunately to make best use of E-mount, new optical designs are required. That way they can be optimised to suit digital sensors as well.
Probably is Tamron helping Sony like they do for the A-mount. There is allready an update for all the A-mount lenses to E-mount, it is called the LA-EA4! It is not an easy task to convert lenses from PDAF only A-mount to hybrid AF E-mount, it needs more then just an extension tube…
And people want “real” E-mount lenses, small as possible and focussing fast as it can…
I was talking about A-mount.
No thanks, Tamron has too much problem with QC , had to send back every Tamron lens I have to correct front/back focusing problem.
No more Tamron for me.
As does Sigma, Sony, Nikon, Canon, Pentax…….
They already did it years ago with many basic lens. SAL2875, SAL1870, SAL1118, SAL18200, SAL18250, SAL55200, SEL18200, SEL55200, essentially most of the cheap zooms are Tamron designs.
I’m waiting NEX 5 series with AF from A6000) Hope it will be true.
Any news on the A58II or whatever? Not that I want one, but I am curious about whether there is going to be a “beginner” A-mount.
Good question.
I think if Admin have some info about that, he will share it with us. No A-Mount APS-C Entry model no future to A… no future to E … no future to Sony
A58 will be in sale at least to the end of the year…
Perhaps a mildly reworked A7R to use a variation on the new 36MP sensor that Nikon will have in the 810. That would enable EFCS and go some way to mitigate shutter-action induced vibration. (If the A7R sensor had been capable of EFCS, I’m sure Sony would have implemented it).
If there is to be a “flagship” E-Mount, it would be nice to see it in a slightly larger body to allow space for a larger body, more controls and (ideally) IBIS.
disqus won’t allow me to reply to your other post since it’s marked as “unmoderated” for some strange reason (I’ve seen people full out swear and nothing happens!)
Yes… the reason you mentioned is also the reason why I was wondering why A77II said that Minolta lenses should be updated for E mount. Since then they have clarified that they were referring to A mount.
A good way to confuse people. Talk about adapting (really updating) Minolta lenses on A mount in a post that’s all about E-mount.
Please, make some good prime lenses and i am in.
If I had to guess, I’d say that it’s that evf-less a7 that floated around a while back. That way they don’t hurt a7/r/s sales.
FF Basic?
An E-mount basic is surely the A7. It’s already the cheapest FF out there, and it’s a bit difficult to see what you might remove to save significant costs apart, maybe, the OVF.
FF Basic of the future, not the present – where higher models will have existing new tech features like IBIS, or yet to be discovered future tech for imaging – The FF Basic will be a bare bones tech and, of course, will not have EVF, swivel LCD, no SLOG 2, no 4K, no MIC, etc,.
Maybe it’s a replacement for NEX-5 line, which will be continued for sure (info from sony worker).
Isn’t ILCE-5100 a continuation of NEX-5 line?
Who knows? With Sony naming policy everything is possible 🙂
You do know there is already the ILCE-5000 don’t you?
Yes. I was under the impression that it was continuation in the NEX-5 line. Thus, 5100 should also be.
I wasn’t replying to you.
And? 5100 could be the “new nex-5″… why not?
spec-wise it’s more a continuation of NEX-3 line
I think it sits between/replacede the 3 and the 5 series.
it can’t use optional EVF and it has another body shape more like NEX-3
haha… unlikely.
You could argue the A5000 replaces both the NEX-3 and NEX-5, or that the pricing of the A6000 renders the NEX-5 slot obsolete. Either way, a NEX-5 replacement would be pointless.
Very likely. Maybe even he have this camera in his hands already… like A77II for couple months before launch.
Sorry, but I’m not convinced. Maybe a new FF model without EVF, at a higher price point. But that wouldn’t be a direct replacement, would it?
What bit about there not being a big enough gap between the A5000 and A6000 price points do you not understand?
They take this “more cameras than lenses” thing very, very seriously I see?
Obviously there are a lot of body collectors out there, not so much lenses. As much as it seem contrary to what I’d expect. Otherwise, Sony’s marketing emphasis would change. They know better than anyone what’s selling.
I’m probably the only person on SAR with a single Sony body (or camera body of any manufacturer). ;^)
No, you arent.
Possessed a A77, sold it and bought an A99.
;^P
Yet named a77II???? ;^)
To be fair, given the ratio of bodies to lenses it’s not surprising the bodies sell better…
Nope, just an a7 here.
Yet another FF E-Mount? Come on, bring A88, A99-II and a low resolution sports/low-light A-Mount FF first!
There’re plenty of E-Mount bodies already
Totally Agree ~!!
A99 Mk2 😛
No pure still camera bodies are needed from Sony given the slew of releases. A VG9000 replacement with the a7s sensor would make the most sense and be quite successful with internal 4k recording, built-in dual XLR inputs, 4:2:2 10-bit and priced under 5k.
If dropping of the EVF shaves £300 off the camera price, this means around £800 for an excellent full frame camera! This will make full frame photography accessible to many more people.
Also will significantly reduce the camera size in one direction, removing the finder bulge.
Price of the new A7 is <800 UKP. Look around!
It is likely to drop further obviating the need for yet another plastic creation. I am inside one A7 (opened up) and it is not a pretty sight with the plastic shell and sticky tapes holding up the AA components on the sensor.
If you take the EVF off of that A7 there is not much in it.
Well amazon.co.uk still sell the A7 around £1150, if it can be found cheaper even better for an EVF-less version.
I personally also prefer more metal in my camera and lens bodies, but if a plastic version will make FF accessible to more people I am all for it.
“Price of the new A7 is <800 UKP. Look around!"
No it isn't.
LOL! You need a better version of google.
Edging towards 750 UKP.
So, according to your superior version of Google, who sells it for £750.00?
I love it when people start making random claims and battle over several posts when it’s blatantly obvious that a simple link to prove the point would do.
The best part is when they start to come up with some philosophical reasons for not pasting the links.
NEW
£1142.90 cheapest genuine UK
£839.99 cheapest non UK but run the risks of customs.
Vivek – I’ll be another person asking for a bit of substance to your usual price BS
This has been posted and discussed in earlier threads. Look, I am not interested in posting links. Google is a tool and is only capable of providing answers with the right type of query. If anyone is as interested as I was, the answers can be found. Take it for what it is. No need to characterize it as BS. I know it isn’t since I did not have to shell out the cash that the local Sony outfits want (I did for the A7r and it was 2099 Euros which is still the list price).
Wow, could you be any more full of s**t?
I don’t know if you are genuinely interested or being just obnoxious. I will be charitable and give you a hint. The link is in “deals runner” posted by the Admin. Dig deep. If use that link, maybe it helps this site a bit.
I’m genuinely interested in where you can get an A7 for £750.00.
I cannot see one in DealsRunner for that price.
Certainly not for genuine UK stock. You can pick up dodgy imports for around that price, but I can’t say I’d risk it…
Indeed. There is no genuine UK based supplier selling UK/European stock for £750.00.
I agree if you want local 2 year warranty then it is not the case. If someone thinks, OK, these are made in Thailand and are exactly the same cameras (and even without any light leak issues) then that is a different story. The price drops are incredible (from where they were) and shocking. Are these cams (A7/7r) worth the cash, yes they are. Amazing tools! 🙂
can I ask you why you opened up an Alpha7? technical issue or just curiosity?
Also tapes are really common in cameras of any brand. The guys at LensRental show that all the time and they also stated that usually Sony’s layout are the cleanest one (experience from other electronic department).
I don’t remember which body but Canon once experienced a light leak issue from the backlightening of the LCD panel. Canon adressed the issue and fixed it with a black tape on the Back of the LCD panel.
Well there’s no need to put a bullet-proof piece of titanium just to stop a light leak 🙂
Of course, and I have no problem with black tape if it does the job, in fact if it can save me few bucks I’m all for it .
It was just to point out that tapes are really common in camera body (and probably many other electronic devices).
Why is your English flawless ? Have you got a personal translator now?
why? did I make unreadable english comments before? If so, sorry for my english for whom it’s their native language.
It was a bit disorienting at times. Nothing major.
Ok. I will try to make more intelligible sentences in the future. Thanks
Beauty is in the eyes of the beholder. One could say technical prowess while another not being overly impressed. A7’s layout is quite different than that of the A7r. Sticky tape has been used to affix AA filter stack before (Minolta Dynax 5D but that is an APS-C CCD sensor with much lower heat output).
The point I was making is that without the EVF it is not going to do much for the price or the stability of the camera.
You would be shocked to know that the original NEX-5 had 3 screws holding up the shutter assembly while in the NEX-5N only a single screw at the bottom does it. The shutter assembly in NEX-5N still has three slots for screws but there is no room in the front part of the body where screws can go in.
I’ve only seen an Alpha 7r tear down and I presume the layout was the same for the Alpha 7, didn’t knew they were huge differences between them. I also think that 300£ off for the EVF is little bit optimistic.
By the way, why did you opened up your Alpha7?
To shoot in the “invisible” range.
(Genotypewriter got his A7r done a long while back.)
Oh, I see. And you do it yourself or the modification has been made by a professional and you were there to watch? must be stressful when the job on the sensor start.
I am not a professional, just an ordinary bloke. It is stressful.
I get the “last time I saw that kind of code the A7s had been announced” but the code looks meaningless to me. Nothing really to indicate it’s FF or an e-mount. Correct me if I’m wrong, but the only camera expected in the pipeline left is the a99 replacement. Sony announcing it a month from now – mid-August – in time for an early September pre-Photokina presser to show it off all works in my mind.
But who knows. Sony keeps grinding out the bodies, not so much the lenses and flashes. Obviously, people are collecting bodies and not accessories or their emphasis would change.
A5 is due out.
just dreaming here but how about a FF in NEX-7 form factor?
I hope A9 is RX1 form and A9000 is NEX-7 form.
I’d like one in a Nex-5 form factor!
+1
I prefer NEX 7 body with a EVF rather than NEX 5 body and no EVF
I’m selling my NEX-5t, and holding it again reminds me how much I miss its size over my A7s. I’ll pay MORE not to have an EVF. The more coat pocketable the better. Every time I see the viewfinder hump, I’m upset. The camera would be so much better with a detachable viewfinder. I’m dreaming every day about the perfect travel/social camera a full frame “Nex-5 style” body would be.
I LOVE my new A7s and I would love an ultra sensitive sensor like that in an NEX-5 style body.
Out of curiosity what lens are you using on the 5t? That was always the bigger barrier for me in terms of pocketability.
Was primarily using the Zeiss 24mm 1.8 and the SLR Magic 35mm 1.4; together they were a killer combo for me. I just sold the entire NEX setup for the A7s. All the info is on a sale page I quickly created:
http://hustlebear.com/misc/nex-5t/nex-5t.html
Unfortunately a lot of mirrorless buyers are p&s upgraders who have the “big camera = better” mentality. It’s only people who’ve carried big cameras that can appreciate the same functionality in a small body.
Also maybe 90% of mirrorless users don’t use focal lengths that can benefit from a EVF… again it’s the “if there’s no evf I wont look cool” noobs who insist on the additional bulk being built in.
While we’re dreaming… I want the A7s lens in a body big enough to handle the heat of internal 4k recording, 10 bit out–and better video AF.
you mean Alpha 7s sensor instead of lens. Also add an SSD hard drive slot to record the massive file.
For some time I’ve been wondering why cameras haven’t been equipped to write to an SSD. It doesn’t require a slot. USB3.0 would do the job (as would eSATA). In fact such an interface would even allow for RAW video using some compression (12 bit RAW @ the 8MP for 4K or 2K and 30fps – the limit of the A7S sensor equates to 360MBps; some modest compression could get that down closer to 100MBps).
maybe because you need the storage capacity of a SSD for video purpose only and external recorder allow you to do it, so manufacturers must think why bother.
An external recorder won’t allow you to record RAW, just uncompressed HDMI. That means it’s still been put through in-camera de-mosiacing, white-balancing and so on. Yes, you can still do some grading, but it’s still limited by decisions made by the in-camera processing. By recording RAW, all those decisions can be made in post-processing and more sophisticated algorithms can be used. It’s the same argument as using RAW for stills. By using RAW you are not throwing away information.
Also, SSDs are much, cheaper than external recorders and use standardised interfaces.
I do understand the advantages you describe and agree. I was just triying to figure out why manufacturers don’t bother to do it.
Also I’m not sure you can power the hard drive through USB3 without drastically reducing your battery life (external recorder use extra battery/ies).
Maybe a slim case with SSD and battery slot and a long USB cord that allow you keep it in your bag will do the trick.
I wouldn’t expect the drive to be powered by the camera. There’s nothing in the USB specification which requires it. It is an optional feature. Indeed, there are such things as “unpowered” USB hubs, which don’t provide power to any connected devices. Any such device would therefore require its own battery, but that’s not a huge matter. My car stereo unit has an upowered USB port which will work with a USB stick, but not a device (like a portable USB drive). However, it’s quite happy to talk to an MP3 unit with its own power when configured as a mass storage device.
Of course such high data rates will also place a greater power demand and heat generation load on the camera in question, so I don’t see it happening with A7 type bodies.
There is one example of a “modest” priced video camera that records RAN (cinemaDNG) to SSD. That’s the Black Magic cinema camera which uses internal, but exchangable, 2.5″ SSDs. It can’t be beyond the bounds of possibility that such RAW capabilities could be added to prosumer cameras using an external interface.
http://www.blackmagicdesign.com/uk/products/blackmagiccinemacamera/design
Of course it may be that SD type storage will be able to reach the same sort of speeds and capacity given time, but SSDs are here now and well established.
USB3 is fast enough? bottle neck effect may be take in consideration.
then Thunderbolt could do the trick, but it also mean it won’t never happen since it’s an Apple proprietary connection and Sony or other manufacturers won’t use it.
USB 3.0 is (theoretically) capable of 625MBps. Even at 50% of that, it’s way over what compressed CinemaDNG would need. Thunderbolt would do, but is it necessary?
And far less fragile, cumbersome rigs.
Yup and yup.
Remember though, the GH4 can record 8 bit 4k internally at 100 MBps and HD at 200Mbps on its tiny body. I’d like to see Sony record some flavor of 4k at at least 200Mbps internally.
Merk and Model? Either it’s talking about some pubic wigs or it is a typo
Merk is Indonesian for Make
So in the 70s an Indonesian would say “she really needs to trim her make”?
Merk = Brand name (manufacturer)
I want A5 to be in the form factor of NX 300, which is so sophisticated Leica copied it for Leica T
I don’t care how it will be called. If it’s a high-res full frame with the latest AF improvements and a solution to the 2nd curtain/shutter shock problem, I’m in.
We are all in this together, including Barry and Vivek
me too 😀
and my guess is that many many others are waiting for exactly that 🙂
Have you owned and/or shot a lot with an a7 series camera to experience the “shutter shock problem”? What did you go back to using?
No, I don’t own one, I have only tried it at a store. However, so many users are reporting that it is a real problem, especially between a certain shutter speed range and with longer lenses, I’m sure Sony will do sth about it with Mark II.
What’s worse than someone whining onli e is someone whining online after listening to other online whiners. So, don’t be one of them. 😉
It’s the majority that doesn’t know how to use a camera that say crap like the vibrations are an issue. There are lots of photos on my flickr I’ve taken with the a7r handheld at shutter speeds like 1/6 and even slower that’s sharp.
Again, look for the good examples… follow statistics if you want to be a statistic 😉
So you say a problem doesn’t exist until you reproduce it by yourself? So why are you here? You are self-sufficient in every way.
I’m here because if everyone just sits around whining about every single thing that is not a real problem, manufacturers will not address the real issues. If the photographic community is smarter, manufacturers will make better and more advanced cameras instead of dumbing things down… you have to agree on that, right?
Another E mount camera?
I am somewhat concerned by the lack of A mount offerrings.
If Sony holds off and introduces a new ff high res stacked A mount…prefferably mirrorless in september that would be good…in fact that is what they will need to do to match Canon who is expected to do exactly that on sept 5.
If on the other hand Sony is…despite constant statements to the contrary….actually planing to phase out and eliminate A mount thren they MUST produce a line of E mount cameras with IBIS and full high speed auto focus support for A mount lenses.
Lack of a clear indication from Sony of what dirrection Sony is going is not only hurting A mount sales but also makes third party manufactureres reluctant to make Sony compatable lenses.
As I said Canon is expected to strike hard in September..they just published 3 more stacked sensor patents which have long been expected to only be published shortly before release of the actual product.
Is Sony ready ?
I will be waiting for the day you’ve got another agenda, Barry
so, you’re striving for immortality?
Good one. I did a double take.
To be fair they’ve just released the a77ii and I wouldn’t expect the a99ii to follow that closely on its heels. Realistically the only other a-mount we’re likely to see in the near future is the a58ii, which I couldn’t be less interested in.
My guess – nothing special. I struggle to believe they’d be able to launch anything big without Andrea hearing about it
To be fair the a77II is not a new model..just the 2014 version of the a77…..just as carmakers produce a new version of every car model every year..some improvements but basically the same camera.
The a99II is likely to be the same scenario.
My concern…shared by many if not most A mount users is being abandoned with a lot of useless obsolete Sony crap by a company that could not care less about its past customers.
The a99II is likely to get Sony’s 36mp tech so it’ll be a significant upgrade. They’ll tweak stuff like AF people have griped about. Then they’ll drop a thing or 2 like the AF assist lamp to cheese people off. They’ll likely recycle the a99 body.
Earl..the Dotline dl-v9 I rccomended to you is not good..mine fell apart..I am getting the Cotton Carrier Stabilization system instead.
The Dotline product is too flimsy even though it has good features at a cheap price. I have had similar issueas with other Dotline products..they offer great features but fall apart.
Keep an eye on the new Sigma 300-600, it may give Tamron a run for the money?
As for the future of A mount..I am having serious concerns.
Barry, or anyone else… care to elaborate on the the impact of caring your A-Mount gear this way, dangling by the tripod mount? Any issues with damage to the mount or the glass mount when heavy glass is attached? I have the Peak Design for my A77, but always worry about some damage to the mount when I go mountain biking.
I am talking about using these mounts when walking and using long heavy lenses such as the new Tamron 150-600, the Siga 50-500 or the future Sigma 300-600.
These lens/camera combinations weigh up to 10 lb and need to be held very steady.
Human muscles by nature shake when supporting wieghts such as these for any substantial length of time…the severity of this shaking varies by individual and results in unsharp images, especially at long focal lengths.
The devices I mentioned fully support the weight of the camera thereby eliminating this source of camera shake.
They also allow near tripod like stability while allowing full easy movement for tracking subjects such as birds.
They also allow one handed camera operation usefull when the other hand is needed for something else.
Lastly..even more stabilty can be obtained by leaning your back againsta solid object such as a tree.
You can also carry as many as 2 more cameras set up and instantly ready for use..one on either side..while you big lens is supported safely out of the way and will not bang against the other two.
As for mountain biking…I have not tried it but suspect that the bouncing of the bike would be too much for a long lens to handle.
When looking at the Cotton Carrier website they show the system in use with small to medium length lenses in active situations.
I am no longer rrecommending the dotline product because the construction is not sturdy enough for these uses.
The Cotton Carrier has the best reputation for this type of product in the market and I have ordered one with the Steady Shot for my big lens and 2 holsters for my medium lenses.
One final not..I always keep both my cameras AND the long lens…whith a seperate lens strap…attached to my body in case the support system fails…
Barry, have you tried using a solid monopod with a gimbal head? That’s what I use, and it works great yet is very portable.
Any particular make and model?
I’ll check it out. Thanks!
The Cotton Carrier Stabilization platform is great, but anything larger than a 70-200 lens and it becomes very awkward to use. I would not recommend it with a 50-500 or 150-600 lens.
GPS! Surely they’ll drop GPS as part of the cheesing plan.
A99 ii need not to be a completely new design camera.
Sony just need to put the A7R sensor + A77ii AF + Bionz x in a A99 body will be good enough.
Barry – the World’s leading expert at shoehorning a post about stacked sensors into a completely unrelated topic.
If I am correct and the new sensors make bayer sensors OBSOLETE that is totally relevent to anyone thinking of buying an obsolete bayer array camera.
Furthermore I consider anything any of us can do to pressure Sony into releasing the new tech sooner rather than later..as a service to everyone….even people like you who do not believe in what I am doing.
I believe you are living in a fantasy world.
And you are solidly rooted in reallity ?????????
Yes, Walter, I am.
So in this reality of yours my name is Walter?
In my reality my name is not Walter.
No, that is what is known in the UK as “taking the piss”.
So all our bayer sensor cameras will be OBSOLETE overnight? Even if a new technology emerges, it will not render everything that went before it obsolete. I’m sure we can all deal with the crushing disappointment you seem to think you are saving us from.
You think you are pressuring Sony with your relentless posts on here? You think you are doing everyone a service, even people who do not believe in what you are doing? Are you the Messiah?
Oh boy. You need to check yourself before you wreck yourself. You are obsessed… and wrong.
So what do you want sony to do?
Continue to make bayer sensors and not released stacked as long as possible?
Phase out A mount and not put IBIS or fast af A mount capability on E mount ?
Never make more than 24mp C size and no more than 36mp ff ?
You have made a point of not agreeing with me so what are your views on these topics which I consider very important.
Sony can do what they want. No, no and no.
There you go.
Thats the differrence between us.
You dont care what Sony does but you care very much what I say.
I dont care what you say but I care very much what Sony does.
I care what Sony does. I just don’t have an overinflated opinion of what influence I have over their product development. I also don’t want to inflict my opinions over and over again on the other visitors to this site.
You don’t care what I say. That just about sums you up. You treat this site as your own personal blog, without any regard for others. You insult people, and If anyone dares to confront you, you scream bully and become even more bullish yourself.
Have a great day!
Exactly what I was trying to say, only you said it better.
thank you
Who the bleep is tonyp now?
I don’t care what Sony does. What I would prefer is for Barry to stfu. You need to get off your high horse and stop looking down on everyone. You come off as a bully and as soon as someone challenges you, you do what all bullys do…cry and complain that you are being picked on and bullied. I’m sick of biting my tongue and not saying anything. Barry…you need a reality check. You are no better than anyone else here. We are all equal yet you seem to think you are superior. I bet you don’t have many real friends.
Oh! The irony.
Sony goes where the money is. I think it’s time we A mount users just accept that. Excuses like- oh, the professional line has a longer product cycle…blah blah. The A77II is a great product but I don’t see it creating much buzz. Why would we expect an A99II to be any different? The A77II already tells me they’ll be warming over the full frame a-mount line. There is no way they’ll make a similar line up to their new e mount cameras. They’re hoping we get the message without saying it.
The a77II is selling very well on Amazon here in America. Sony’s still making money in a-mounts. Mirrorless was a fresh market so had strong initial growth. In cropped sensors mirrorless is getting saturated with systems which is why Sony is all out in FF, consolidating APS-C.
Define “selling very well”.
I suppose number 50 is pretty good for Sony.
It doesn’t appear anywhere in the Amazon UK best sellers list.
Just to put your selling well into perspective the D810 is currently no 2 on the most popular DSLR list. The A711 is 50 places
lower on the list. I think that due to a major misinterpretation of the Sony
presentation slide { showing overall market trends not Sony sales } has led to a very skewed perception of Sony SLT/SLR sales .
Facts are they have since the launch of SLT lost a very significant part of their market share , in their home market Japan their share of the DSLR market was below 5%
The even broader perspective is if Sony only plans to market bodies that beat Cankon in sales they need to get out of the camera business entirely. ;^)
And Pentax/Ricoh and Sigma combined make up less than 3%.
What’s your point?
1 – Their e-mount bodies have probably canibalized the a-mount bodies a bit thanks to the ease of adaptation ( particularly for users wanting a small second body).
2 – So long as the a-mount system is profitable sony will have an incentive to maintain it.
To be fair Amazon UK were slow off the mark listing it (and didn’t even have a pre-order option).
I doubt that would have much impact on today’s sales charts. They are updated hourly. Not sure how long a time period the chart covers though.
It’s in the top 100 DSLRs. Pick a a77II body listing and ranking is underneath.
In the US, yes, not the UK though.
Remember the post about a “dual a/e mount” camera? That was the writing on the wall, they were looking to phase a-mount out.
I was going to buy the a77ii but with 7d release so close I’m going to wait (I have lenses for both mounts). Plus, I’M THOROUGHLY CONVINCED SONY’S NOT COMMITTED TO A-MOUNT.
Don’t know how you can call it – they’ve just released an a-mount body that’s getting great reviews and odds are will follow it up with the a99ii. Fair enough, they’re releasing e-mount bodies in greater numbers, but telling e-mount shooters to sod off and use an adaptor doesn’t exactly scream commitment either…
Barry, I’m sure what you think Canon’s doing is wrong. They are more going back to the future.
I want an A7 without the viewfinder bulk…kind of like a full-frame NEX-5. It woud be fun to have a small full-frame travel camera that would cost under $1000. Last rumors pointed in this direction (very compact E-mount full-frame camera).
No worries there. There will be one.
I agree. Give me a sleek A7 without the viewfinder bulk and a more premium build. Sold- and probably no more a mount.
No bump or no evf altogether? I dont mind the bump but no evf would be a disqualifier for me.
Viewfinder is essential for manual focus. Especially since the LCD sucks on the A7 compared to the other cheaper APS-C models. Even the A57’s LCD shows more detail than the A7.
buy the RX1 lol
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If it is a camera there is a good chance it could happen. If you want a lens I’m not so sure about that 😀
The existing Zeiss 35mm is good enough. Of course, I’m not expecting Sony to include this lens in the $1000 🙂
And I want a 70-200 f4 lens for my A99.
And I want a 400 f4.
We all want things. Sony dont give a sh*t what we want. They just pump out the high margin items even if the system doesn’t make sense. Cause…we keep buying it.
i want a 50mp full frame camera the size/weight of the nex-3 that has all of the features of the a7/r/s, have a super long lasting battery that can allow me to take 5000 shots, build with solid titanium, waterproof up to 200m, IBIS, touchscreen, an EVF that outperforms a OVF and at price around $500…….
this sums up what people are asking for…..pretty reasonable I think for Sony to do ….lol!
and no lenses? 😀
yeh but we can’t ask for THAT much now can we? =p
are you nuts! 500 price tag!! anything above 300$ is an insult…and if they do so Sony IS DEAD,DEAD, DEAD (do I need to add more “DEAD” to sound more like a drama queen or is that enough?)
You’re doing it wrong – you have to pick the a or e team before you say anything’s dead…
Barry?
We’re closer than you might think:) I’ll never got back to OVF already…
You forgot the soft serve ice cream maker!
come on people.. this is a6000S! 😉
..low light BEAST
lawl this comment made my day
But seriously, if they came out with something like that in a pro body (monster AF with monster low light) … I’d pray toward Sony Headquarters five times a day. 🙂
Jokes aside, an A6000 with a native 1080p or 2K resolution, better EVF (tiltable like GX7 would be fantastic) and mic input, I’d be all over it.
That is A7000 which is coming soon in a NEX-7 form
ahahaha
You don’t understand product sequencing. Do you?
It’s the A6000N
N stands for none.
It is a mirroless, sensorless camera.
For $5,000.
I LOL’d at “Sensorless” camera. 😉
Mirroless medium format is coming, body only, lenses come later
lol
cant this be new a99 mark ii? something to combat the new d810?
So yet again Sony is the one playing catchup.
Why cant they set the standard, instead of always trying to match it?
To combat the D810? LOL! D810 is sucky at best.
Ahem.
I’m a Sony guy all the way. But…I’ve used the D800, and it is certainly not ‘sucky’. The D810 looks to be another very solid product with no direct competitor from anyone.
Sure. it has no direct competitor because it hasn’t got anything to compete with. A few years ago, it was a marginal improvement in stills over the 5D but fell behind 5D as an overall camera.. But at the present with the maturing of Sony’s devices, the behemoth D800 series has no relevance anymore.
It is a capable, pro-grade camera that hits all the current checkboxes. But, it was an obsolete design before it was even launched. I agree, it means nothing when you try to deduce Nikon’s future from it. It is quite boring and stagnant.
Your wrong. I’m a Full-Frame Alpha user, and I nothing but respect for the D800, its an outstanding camera.
Quit fantasizing, mirror-less, aren’t going to dominate the future, anytime soon.
DSLRs are the professionals number one tool, and this isn’t going to change anytime soon. Mirror-less, are generally slow, under-performing cameras, that are too small to use with f/2.8 Zooms or f/1.4 Primes.
well…. they set the standard with a7r and a7s. and from my recollection.. nex 7 when it first came out.
@Andrew, Do you have more information about the A99 Mk2?
That’s an A-mount camera.
A-mount was so last year.
Get with the times. E-mount is where it’s at!
Until next year. Then E-mount will be dead and Sony will be on to it’s newest wow factor…
I hope it’s a cheaper A7 without the EVF and a better LCD.
A better LCD? The RGBW one on the existing A7 family is already one of the better panels out there.
It’s too bad the LCD on my A57 shows more detail than my A7’s LCD. I don’t use the LCD for manual focus anymore because of this.
That surprises me.
You don’t understand product sequencing. Do you?
oops! wrong place.
So you want a FF point & shoot? That doesn’t make sense.
The RX1 would disagree with you.
Well of course, if i were a RX1 i would disagree with me too.
(however awesome it may be optically)
True, the whole point of the RX! is an EVF, which isn’t there. Which makes it’s existence pointless. Can Sony not grasp such a basic idea? Sigh.
Also every camera before the digital age 😛
No, it’s just I prefer a smaller camera over an EVF. I tried the A7 in the shop and I don’t like the color from the LCD. It would be nice if Sony use the LCD from Samsung.
Price-percentage wise i don’t think it’s going to make a worthy difference, FF will expensive no matter what. And the A7 bump really isn’t a problem in practical use if you seriously think about it: When would you ever have so little room that <1cm on top is going to make a difference.. i mean really. And for sure the grip can't be an issue because there's always going to be a 'bump' that is the lens(!) on that side anyway. It's really just visual.
To me both a grip and EVF (even if you don't always use it) are essential (on a serious camera that is, especially with the short DoF of FF), though i use a thumbsup on my X100 .. but that could have been avoided .. in fact a grip on the front beside the lens would have been less of an obstacle than the thumbs up sticking out from the back.
Most of DSLRs buyers use them as “pont and shoot”. A few days ago I tried to persuade 1100D user that shooting thru live-view is suboptimal to camera’s performance.
DSLR’s got nothing to do with it .. and not anything APSC. This is about FF and how it requires a different approach than smaller sensors do. Bigger isn’t just better, it’s mostly just different.
FF mirrorless (e.g. A7 + 28-70) is smaller than APS-C DSLR (e.g. Nikon D5200 + 18-55)
There is nothing magical about FF. Just 15 years ago most ppl used film FF. 1100D users could have bought a FF camera if it had been priced the same.
What if Sony made a improvement in producing sensors that makes FF sensors cheap? Elitist folks don’t like it.
What the hell is this?
this is new QX but Medium Format 😉
that would be fun. Imagine one of those in the nose of a plane to feed us with an nice flight image instead of the shitty one you have in airplane actually.
Hope is the A99II
I’m buying it on launch day, along with the rumoured 25-105mm.
Sigma or there is another 24-105?
Sony own 24-105mm f4, could be G or Zeiss.
I’m SR4ing that for 4K. Fingers crossed.
As strange as it seems I’d like to see an A7s type with curved FF sensor with A6000 AF and higher FPS.
I know it has been mentioned that a zoom on the curved sensor is causing problems. But if they can actually make good/cheap and simpler primes lenses for it, then I don’t care even if it’s a new mount.
Actually, if it’s a new FF mirroless curved sensor mount, I wonder can they add IBS on it?
The curved FF sensor would require an entire new line of lenses. Sony is trying to to fill out the FE line, I can’t see them having an interchangeable curved sensor lens line coming out too.
And a new mount – doubt either of the current mounts are precise enough for the kind of alignment needed.
If we leave aside the obvious point that using an existing mount aimed at flat sensors for curved sensors makes no sense (why would you do such a thing – the curved field lenses wouldn’t work with a flat sensor and vice-versa), I don’t understand why a curved sensor requires a more precise mount than that for a flat sensor. Also, now “precise” a mount is depends on how well the components are engineered. It’s perfectly possible to machine an E-Mount to whatever level of precision anybody is willing to pay for (that’s both sides of the mating surface of course – camera and lens).
Anyway, the idea is a nonsense for the reasons others have stated. Curved sensors make sense in order to allow for the use of simpler lens designs which don’t have to be corrected for field curvature. As the field curvature is dependent on the details of an individual design, having to deliberately engineer the same field curvature into lenses of very different characteristics (of which focal length is just one) makes not much sense.
In fact I think it may be possible for a (fixed) zoom, but it makes no sense at all for an exchangeable lens character, prime or not.
Imagine lens moving relative to camera body horizontally by 0.5 mm. That’ll be ok for flat sensors, but for curved it’ll produce the same effect as unintentional sensor tilt. (for curved sensors a flange which is concentric to image surface will do the job)
>which don’t have to be corrected for field curvature.
Still, they do HAVE to be corrected. A field curvature for arbitrary lens is not a single number, but there is second-power term, fourth-power, sixth-power and so on. A sensor for x= -0.01*y*y + 1e-4*y^4 – 1e-6*y^6 won’t be easy to produce.
>having to deliberately engineer the same field curvature into lenses of very different characteristics
according the same logic, making a zoom for ILC system, which is supposed to use optimal designs for each focal range, makes no sense.
I wonder if sometime WAY down the line, sensors are so cheap they’re added to the cost of each lens and the manufacturer just slaps that sucker on to the end of the lens and each camera comes without a sensor. Manufacturing glass will always be costly but in a few years maybe the cost of a great 12k FF sensor is on par with the cost of a sensor on a cheap phone. Of course, sensors will keep getting better and better so maybe the latest and greatest will always be more expensive but… just wondering…
Admin, why are there no rumours in the last 29 seconds? Have you sold out to Sony?
don’t worry john, there will be another deals post to promote bhphoto/adorama/amazon in a few minutes 😉
Phew! That’s a relief. Thanks mate
You missed the barb.
Yep. It’s been posted already.
On that list is also a new CELL PHONE!
OOH XPERIA Z3 with Curved 1″ sensor :O
Does anyone remember Sony Imaging boss saying that there is going to be a camera that people will say “Wow, what is this?” ?
I also remember Sony saying they were fully commited to supporting A mount ????????????
I think it was the same interview in the aftermath of the release of A7 in which the guy was responsible for RX1, NEX and A7 has promised that by the end of 2014 Sony will come out with a “wow what is this thing” camera I
Bottom line is I would like to be confident that continuing to buy A mount lenses is a good move.
Currently l am not.
If my Tamron 150-600 for Sony does not arrive in time for my August bird trip I will cancel my preorder and wait to see what Canon and Sigma anounce in September…the sigma 300-600 sounds interresting…
I’m confident. I’m dropping 5K in the next six months, on the refreshed 85mm, 135mm, and new 24-105mm Zeiss .
The A-Mount has survived 30years of trolls. Its going to survive another 30 without breaking a sweat.
Remember the A-Mount is 30% of Sony’s camera divisions revenue, and its not going anywhere, regardless of what the trolls say.
Maybe you should wait and buy the 400mm f/4.0, and a teleconverter if you need a 600mm focal length. I’d probably be sharper.
Last year I Started with a new condition “cheap” a850 for less than 900USD (they were getting rid of all the old equip…they even had a 5d mk2 for less than 1800USD I believe), Sony 85mm f/2.8 SAM, Minolta 50mm f/1.7 RS and Minolta 70-210mm f/4 “Beercan” and two flash units (F43AM and F58AM, both “quite cheap” in new condition since they were being replaced by new models). After enjoying myself with the equipment I had, decided to invest “heavily” on A-mount lenses while skipping the a99 (being a year old model already by the time I bought the a850) and selling my 3-year old NEX-5 and a bunch of lenses for E-mount after the a7-series announcement..
Now, with a 6K investment I made with the Zeiss 24, 50, and 135 and a 70-400 G2 in the last 7 months (and of course, still have the a850, Sony 85 and the minoltas) I’m waiting for the new fullframe cameras. The a77 got replaced this year, and now it’s time for the a99 to get replaced…and who knows, maybe a higher spec camera might show up soon. What a better place for Sony to test new equipment when we just had the FIFA World Cup.
So yes, I’m confident A-mount will stay for a long time too.
I’m not confident that a-mount will stay… They have only released 2 a-mount cameras in 1.5 years, in the same time period (at least 9) for e-mount.
what if…they really took people seriously when we said they were releasing too many bodies? And I do remember a presentation of Sony were they said mirrorless market were growing while high end SLR/SLT camera sales were increasing at a steady rate. And they said that they would release mid-high end stuff for A-mount.
And, looking at the same time period (1.5 years) then why would they release an update for the SAL70200G if they were not commited to A-mount? It’s an expensive lens after all. Or even the a77 mk.2. Just saying… Anyway, it doesn’t make sense to discuss this while we don’t have rumors coming in. Better to wait til August.
Jeez Barry, learn to hold a conversation. Listen, absorb and respond. Don’t just sit there waiting to say something else.
Back on your topic…lets hope wow what is it…works with A mount
Supporting and continuing to develop are two completely different things.
What Sony does and telling us the whole truth are also two differrent things.
If you haven’t been paying attention lately the A-Mount has been getting some serious attention.
Let me see a 50mm Zeiss, 70-400mm G2, 70-200mm, and the A77II launched within 18 months of each other.
The refreshed 135mm f/1.8, 85mm f/1.4, and new 24-105mm, A88, and A99II within the next six months.
That is more than any other DSLR competitor has launched for their respective high end in the same time period.
My definition of confidence is knowing the latest competitve technology will go into A mount, not just older hand me down and obsolete tdchnology.
The a77II is still the old a77 with a few modest upgrades.
The latest 36mp ff sensor has been available for years now and is still not available in A mount.
I am of course most interested in the next generation sensor that to me is way overdue.
I am not willing to see Canon , Nikon, and finally E mount get it first while I have to wait another 3 years for it to come out in A mount.
I expect to see Canons new sensor in Sept, and I also plan to get a new long lens.
Based on what is available in Sept I will decide which lens, mount and camera it will be 🙂
Since I am buying them together I am not locked into Sony…they will actually have to earn my business this time.
The guy seemed like a complete idiot. Probably another under qualified tool given the job because of internal politics rather his personal capabilities. He called the A-Mount the C-Mount.
That camera they’re talking about is the Alpha One system, and its a D4S sized Alpha Mount. Cause in a world that is miniaturizing, Sony’s has decided to go the other direction.
Its supposedly going to launch with the (often delayed) Olympus designed 400mm, and updated Zeiss lenses.
Thanks for the info, LU. Cheers!
Sony Alpha 1.
1024 AF points Hybrid 92% coverage
15 fps
150 shot buffer
A/E mount
36mp no AA
keep dreaming. A/E mount hybrid isn’t coming. It makes no sense at all either…specially since we have already adapters for it.
I’m still waiting for the FE 16-35mm F4 :/
Me too or some great price/performance primes. The 16-35 could easily make or break the FF E-mount system. It’s quite stupid that there is no great native WA alternative yet.
And a native fisheye and a native 20mm . . .
I’m a Nikon D800 shooter waiting for the A9. Hope the last post is true. Maybe that why B&H has the rebates on the A7’s?
Yep, me too. Have the A7R, but too many immature characteristics to the camera to make me want to sell my D800 (or keep both). Hoping the A8R/A9R fixes many of the features that are ill-implemented or missing on the A7R.
I’d keep both. Cause the A7r isn’t f/2.8 Zoom or F/1.4 Prime friendly. I own one and use often, but its not a DSLR replacement by any means.
So in other words, A-mount is dead? Right admin? Right?
The A77II was the last ‘hurrah’ to milk a little extra money out of us.
No denying, yet ALL the proof is in the pudding.
So what? Even if it is true, that doesnt mean that the A77II is worthless. It’s still one of the best APS-C cams ever made by anyone. And our glass will always be safe through adapters.
Quit your crying. Technology always moves on to the next thing. Canon and Nikon aren’t safe from the same thing either. It will happen some day to them too.
I agree.
adapters. LOL.
What proof? Sources?
He’s full of $hit
No, it means Sony has better security over the A-Mount.
Admin didn’t have a clue what the the A77II was going to be called or when it was going to be launched until the last moment. In fact other sites had the drop on the A77II before SAR.
Multiple (2) Full Frame A-Mounts, are being launched this fall alongside a single Olympus designed G-Series (400mm) lens, and three Zeiss Lenses (24-105mm, 85mm, and 135mm).
So if the A-Mount is dying its taking allot of fuc*ing Zeiss, and G-Series lenses with it.
Pretty sure you just pulled all of those “to be launched” lenses from thin air.
Please Sony make a camera so Barry shut the f.up
Just to remind him that his photos (if he takes any) won’t be revolutionary better.
To be fair, the same applies for most improvements that SAR readers are asking
Admin…have you considered retiring yourself for a moment? Sony is keeping all leaks contained so it’s better updating once a week with some rumors instead of flooding the page with deals and promotions.
That’s how she makes money.
She? Not a she.
Andrea is a guys name too.
ameritards think like that
So sexist!
I disagree, I’m entertained.
Admin – There is also another one – WW328274
Interchangeable Lens Digital Camera SONY – WW328274
WW328274 ist the A7s
Here is the full relevant list from that site – If the numbering and timing is of any value then it looks like the A7 series are the WW328… So, it may not be another A7 variant. Obviously, this is pure speculation.
SONY INDONESIA, PT.
Interchangeable Lens Digital Camera
SONY – ILCA-77M2
THAILAND
SERTIFIKAT DICETAK
05/13/2014
SONY INDONESIA, PT.
Interchangeable Lens Digital Camera
SONY – ILCE-5000
THAILAND
SERTIFIKAT DICETAK
11/22/2013
SONY INDONESIA, PT.
Interchangeable Lens Digital Camera
SONY – ILCE-5100
THAILAND
SP3, BALAI UJI
07/04/2014
SONY INDONESIA, PT.
Interchangeable Lens Digital Camera
SONY – ILCE-6000
THAILAND
SERTIFIKAT DICETAK
02/18/2014
SONY INDONESIA, PT.
Interchangeable Lens Digital Camera
SONY – NEX-5T
THAILAND
SERTIFIKAT DICETAK
10/11/2013
SONY INDONESIA, PT.
Interchangeable Lens Digital Camera
SONY – WW024382
THAILAND
SP3, BALAI UJI
07/11/2014
SONY INDONESIA, PT.
Interchangeable Lens Digital Camera
SONY – WW328261
THAILAND
SERTIFIKAT DICETAK
09/30/2013
SONY INDONESIA, PT.
Interchangeable Lens Digital Camera
SONY – WW328262
THAILAND
SERTIFIKAT DICETAK
09/30/2013
SONY INDONESIA, PT.
Interchangeable Lens Digital Camera
SONY – WW328274
THAILAND
SERTIFIKAT DICETAK
04/07/2014
Four A7 variants?!
OK, the other three are already out. This could be the RX2?
There´s written “interchangeable” lens camera – So I don´t think so.
it is going to be a useless monochrome type black n white sony 35mm camera. who will buy such a thing?
I really hope this 4t variant will be like a6000. 90% AF coverage in full frame
Actually I believe that A7m with 36MPix (real, non-interpolated!) would a great complement to the A7 series. Lots of people would be interested in having more affordable, AF-capable Leica Monochrom.
Yay! Another body! Just what we needed.
I am going to give up Sony A and buy Nikon D810 with Sigma Art lens. I guess Sony A can not use 36 mp or any new Sony sensor at least for 3 years . FE A7R is too small and too slow for me.
It doesn’t mean Sony won’t build a 37mp sensor.
Personally I’d rather go with a A99II with a 24mp sensor, which has higher dynamic range, colour depth, and better ISO capabilities. The 24mp sensor would allow it to have a burst rate, and AF similar to the A77II.
24 mp didn’t help the first A99 to have good burst rate.
Neither does it have better “ISO” than Nikon D800.
Its amazing what they (Sony) can do in two years. If you haven’t been paying attention Sony has managed to launch the world’s most advanced mirror-less cameras, and a best in class APS-C DSLR camera while their competitions has been standing still.
I wouldn’t be surprised if Sony launches DSLRs for under $2000.00 that outstrip the capabilities of their competitions, “Flag Ship Models” just to deny them profits.
Agreed. Sony has nothing to lose, by going for Nikon or Canon’s jugular (expensive high margin cameras). They’re (Sony’s management) well aware of both of their competition’s inability to either adapt or innovate. Slow moving easy target.
Selling high resolution, and 4K capable FF mirror-less cameras has likely taken away a good portion of Canon/Nikon’s tradition high end DSLR sales/profits. I’d be interesting to see how the A7 has effected the unit sales of the 5D MK III or the D800. I bets it a big dent.
The next generation FF SLT are likely geared for extreme performance, and I wouldn’t be surprised if Sony launches 16fps or better FF camera optimized for their G-Series (White) lenses.
Sony didn’t equip all of their (FF A-Mount G-Series Lenses) with the SSM II or develop a completely new AF system (the world’s fastest) over the last 18 months just to look pretty. Sony might not be able to win an IQ contest with Nikon, but they have the potential to beat them with pure speed.
“Sony’s don’t have a flippy mirror to slow them down”
lol. I take it you do not know yet the A7 range has hardly made a tiny dent in Canon/Nikon full frame sales. Yes they are selling but not even that well for mirrorless. It’s the Fuji XT-1 that is selling. That is what people are asking for in the shops. Even that though is not troubling Canon/Nikon sales. Sony is still a very distant 3rd place and the A7 range is not making much impact in sales when compared to the main two full frame brands.
Sony’s done a good job on camera bodies and an even better one on sensors, but the competition hardly “has been standing still”. Has Fujifilm been standing still? Olympus and Panasonic?
Sony has decided, probably because of the people they have and their skill sets, to put all their effort into mirrorless bodies, and nearly none into lenses or A-mount. The problem is, they’ll never create a true system like that.
Nikon got the exclusive right to use the Sony high MP sensor 3 or more years ahead of A99 II.
That’s absolutely wrong. The 36mp sensor wasn’t included in the original A99 due to an overheating problem that wasn’t correctable until after the A99 was launched. That problem has since been corrected, and the A99II will be receiving a 36mp or better sensor.
Is that 36MP sensor the same Sony sold to Nikon or are we talking about the 36MP sensor now found on the a7R?
I don’t think anybody really knows. I suppose the D800 sensor is optimized for DSLR, the A7r sensor is optimized for mirror-less, and the A99’s was optimized for 36mp.
MORE CAMERAS?!????????WTF???? ARE THEY TRYING TO MAKE MORE CAMERAS THAN LENSES?
Trying?
BMD is working on a camera that can swap out sensors. Sounds like Sony could do something like this instead of pushing out all of these camera bodies. I mean, they make their own sensors.
Already having A7 I hope it will be serious FF camera in A99 like body. I hope Sony will finally refuse rudimental SLT mirror and make sensor perfectly suitable for A mount phase detection. + some solution to mount both A and FE lenses. In this case it will be interesting for me.
a3500 coming 😀
or a9500 FF
d9500 Nikon
“a possible full frame e-mount camera ………………..I hope this will be Sony’s high-end A9.”
Now, better write then a possible full frame camera only. E-mount is E-mount and A-mount is A-mount. But, anyway, let’s wait and see what will happen.
I prefer A99 MK2,
A full sized mirror-less camera would be pointless. I’d be a large slow joke with no lenses available, and any shred of Sony’s credibility that remains in the eyes of professionals, that currently remains would simply vanish.
Like most professionals using Sony products, I’ve decided to buy an A99II on launch day. Trying to squeeze DSLR performance out of a A7 is a pointless endevor.
301st blood^^
You just got admitted into the infectious diseases ward.