UPDATE: Sony China removed the A77/65 firmware upgrade 1.04 page! But the download links still work. Be aware that this upgrade firmware has yet not been officially released. Download and install at your own risk! And we don’t know if you can replace that firmware with the firmware that Sony will possibly release next week. So do NOT install if you don’t know what you are doing!!!
Windows:
A77: http://ids.update.sony.net/DSLR/rourmNHbYZ/Update_SLTA77V104.exe
A65: http://ids.update.sony.net/DSLR/rourmNHbYZ/Update_SLTA65V104.exe
Mac:
A77: http://ids.update.sony.net/DSLR/rourmNHbYZ/Update_SLTA77V104.dmg
A65: http://ids.update.sony.net/DSLR/rourmNHbYZ/Update_SLTA65V104.dmg
I guess the rumor we posted yesterday is true. Sony planed the release for today but than postponed it to next week. Sony China made a mistake an posted it today and than removed it after a couple of hours. Read our readers comments to check out what has been improved!
194 Responses
It is Chinese version, don’t know whether it can be upgraded for English 1.03 version ?
Any mac version?
here you go
http://service.sony.com.cn/DI/Download/45390.htm
Thanks. Downloading it now. Not sure if I should install or not, what if…
Would be nice if Sony made the firmware updater application 64bit aware. On 64bit Lion, it is a no go, as the application was written for 32bit. 🙁
Try rebooting the Mac in 32-bit kernel mode (restart and hold the 2 and 3 keys)
OMG! any v1.04 review already?
Wouldn’t that start it in 23-bit mode? You might have some problems with that, use at least 24-bit.
That reply needs a smiley 😉
Have checked Sony Japan, Taiwan and Hongkong as well. None of these website released firmware 1.04…
FYI, model A77 sold in China has no GPS hardware. If you are using a A77, be aware of whether the new firmware is compatible with your camara.
OK I just updated it. No crash, GPS works too. Amen!
Sweet! Thanks for letting us know, I’m going to update it too.
Any improvements John?
Update worked fine with no hassles 🙂
Its certainly more responsive with switching from LCD to EVF and changing settings seems quicker too. Can’t comment on anything until later, I have an event to shoot at now.
any significant improvement?
There is no apparent improvement at all. That “?” button can not be reassigned. Jpeg is just as awful as before, it still takes 5 seconds to shut down. Sony, why bother?
I don’t agree. I just downloaded and installed it – all works fine.
EVF to LCD switching is vastly improved, almost could be described as quick!
Turns on in well under half a second and turns off in 2-3 seconds.
Took some shots before and after update but can’t see any IQ changes.
Will let you know more soon!
Cheers,
Dave.
Are you shitting me, if you can’t see any differences you haven’t used the A77 enough!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The camera feels like a whole new camera to me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
please try ISO 6400 !! 😛
Confirmed ISO 3200 is now usable in RAW!!!!!!!
Pretty good stuff!!!!
It always was.
+1
Allow me to clarify!!!!!!!
I personally have a cutoff of ISO 1600 (fw 1.03), mainly because I feel that the loss of detail at 3200 was too discernible even after post processing with Topaz DeNoise (one of the best in the industry in de-noising). However, after fw 1.04, I am more then happy to use ISO 3200.
from my experiences, Sony firmwares from one region could be installed to cameras from another region, as long as the series is same. The firmware itself will adapt to any differences such as GPS, language, etc.
i recommend to wait u never know especially on the chinese website…
+1…
+2 … Do not trust Chinese any where & time
+3 It’s probably emailing all your friends viagra adverts right now
Would be interesting to see what the image quality improvements look like.
Errr… how to update? D:
Didn’t know that you use a77 too, my december 🙂
SO NOT INSTALLING ANYTHING FROM CHINA!!!!!!
It will probably turn my a77 into a chinese Van that runs over little girls…
!!!!!!
I decided to wait for the Sony US site update…hope it won’t turn mine into a pepper spray
The US version will just make it balloon to twice the size and start trying to take over other cameras. And eat cheeseburgers. Lots of cheeseburgers. With fries. And a bucket of Coca Cola.
I am waiting for the japan release, after the firmware updates, I hope it doesn’t try to kill itself…
Can’t find the Upgrade for WINDOZE!!! HELP!
Just done. It is an English version.
In my case it was Swedish. Hence a multilingual installer.
EDIT: FOUND!!!
http://service.sony.com.cn/DI/Download/45389.htm
At the bottom of the page
http://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fservice.sony.com.cn%2FDI%2FDownload%2F45389.htm
It didn’t say anywhere what improvements was made…so odd…
I’d install it, but it won’t let me, evidently, because I have a 64 bit mac.
The download link from the Chinese website belongs to an international SONY server is not chinese exclusively so I think that is the real deal.
Concerning Mac OS X Lion, it does support 32-bit applications, it DOES NOT support PowerPC applications anymore.
Just my 2 eurocents.
Yeah, but when I run the installer, it says it won’t run in the 64 bit kernel.
Couldn’t get my comp to boot into 32 bit mode (supposedly you hold down 3 and 2 keys simultaneously while starting up, but it didn’t work for me, perhaps because of ReFit.) Instead I just used Windows 7 through boot camp, worked fine.
FIRST PROBLEM FOUND!
When I just finished couple shots, quickly display it (I turned auto preview off), and zoomed in, it displayed fine, but within the magnification and use front dial to see previous shot, the screen suddenly is black and says “unable to magnify”, for about a second or two it finally displayed the previous picture but only in full view, not in the zoom I previously wanted. I don’t recall I had that problem before.
I have this problem in my A65 v1.03
I’ve had this same problem with a77 v1.03.
Mine works fine
Hello from Japan.
I had that problem from U.S. market A65 ver 1.03. So, I guess that part didn’t get fixed.
Update: this problem only occur when you shoot jpeg. If you shoot RAW only there is no such problem. This is the same problem as 1.03, so bug fix on this one.
installed~!!!!!!!!!
I looks like if it is “only” bug fixing. But likely a new bugs are introduced.
Hopeing that they fixed the firmware crashes and battery draining and give the cam a consistant behavior.
William! Any glitches/improvements?
Firmware 2.0 please with a clean firmware and IMPROVEMENTs!
Exactly what changes are we supposed to look at? I don’t see any difference actually.
OK!!!!!
Here is what I have noticed.
Auto Focus system is a lot more responsive with my 50mm 1.4 (feels snappier).
The switch between EVF and live view is alot quicker.
Changing the F-stop and Shutter speed now registers faster with the display both the top and the back.
ISO improvements, before 1600 would have been the max I would go, now I find that ISO 3200 is acceptable.
The camera seems to turn on faster.
SONY MAKE ME A BETA TESTER!!!!!
So the ISO 3200 improvement is for real? In jpeg or RAW?
I only use RAW and tested the same scene with tripod at ISO 400, 1600, 3200 and 6400 before and after updating to 1.04. I could not discern any difference in quality.
There might well be a few extra Sony lens profiles added to the autocorrect module. Hurray for jpg shooters!
When installing, is there no ‘read me’ file?
No ‘read me’ file.
agree, only compared ISO 3200 raw, no difference, 3200 never was a problem for me with the A77
hey frd how to update it’s be ez and can u all laug
same me i’m user thailand went i update
i can change to thai laug and english
so i search about what about update for 1.04 – –
i find fst
went u turn off camera it’s can’t change lens because in 1.03
went i do that it be crash camera i will take out battery and re inside
The performance improvements sound very encouraging. I’m still a few weeks away from pulling the trigger on the A77+16-50mm, so thanks for being beta testers for me! 😀
Single frame shooting no issue now. But I never had that issue before this as well, maybe because most of the time I set mine at 3fps.
Dial response speed does have a significant improvement.
Add on: Auto focus is a lot quicker… with 50mm 1.4, MFD to infinity just spins and snaps right into focus…. *ziip… blip!* *ziip… blip!* *ziip… blip!*
Just what on earth is the “Single frame shooting issue”??? I happened to experience “something” so just to be clear and sure that we’re talking about the same issue what do YOU mean?
Sorry if I didn’t make myself clear. Previous known issue is sometimes when in single frame shooting, one click shoots double shots.
I presume the single frame shooting issue is similar to mine. Occasionally when I press the shutter the camera fires twice and take two shots.
That is exactly what I experienced… I thought it was my fault and that I’m the one who triggered the shutter twice (since I never use the tip of my finger to trigger it but rather slide my finger on the shutter if you see what I mean)
I thought I was gong of my head as well, I kept thinking I was in FPS mode. Must say the AF in AF-C mode seems a bit weird, sometimes have to mash the shutter to get af to start refocusing again.
I agree with WTH above. I just downloaded and installed it – all works fine.
EVF to LCD switching is vastly improved, almost could be described as quick!
Turns on in well under half a second and turns off in 2-3 seconds.
Took some shots before and after update but can’t see any IQ changes at first glance.
Will let you know more soon!
Cheers,
Dave.
DITTO same here, I thought I was going mad.
Turning off still take just as long… hmmmmm
can you mirror 1.04 for the rest of us.
If not I can, just send it too me please.
Those who want the file, a77 on windows, leave a msg on my blog post with your email in it. I’ll send it to you.
williamleong.blogspot.com
WilliamLeong is right, there is no difference in the speed it takes to fully shutdown. (lenz parking and shit)
it is removed =[
Updated my A65 and I don’t notice any mayor improvements. (I used the Chinese link and it worked perfect)
EDIT: although I do notice some improvements on focus speed
Same here, our mayor’s still the same old incompetent guy.
His ability to focus didn’t improve either.
Sony, please fix this…waiting for 1.05!
Shame it has been removed. I do find it odd thought that people expect new features or massive changes from a .03 to .04 update though…
perhaps because they’ve had a month and a half to work on it?
If you knew anything at all about software development you wouldn’t have said that.
+1
And not every issue can be fix in a firmware update.
I’m an embedded software engineer, have been for thirty years and I work on things a hell of a lot more complicated than a camera. I know plenty about software development thanks.
Thank you!! Mac link is dead 😉
Why did it get removed? (Glad I downloaded it 5 minutes before it did, but I’m holding on upgrading my camera until it’s put on the european Sony site)
The Chinese page may have gone but the file is still on the main Sony server: http://ids.update.sony.net/DSLR/rourmNHbYZ/Update_SLTA77V104.exe
MAC-Version: http://ids.update.sony.net/DSLR/rourmNHbYZ/Update_SLTA77V104.dmg
And for the A65, who managed to download…
upd: Ok, already download from ids.update.sony.net
just updated the A77 (US camera), no problems. much faster start up, very fast af with 50mm 1.4, LCD/EVF switch instantly
for windows
A77:
http://ids.update.sony.net/DSLR/rourmNHbYZ/Update_SLTA77V104.exe
A65:
http://ids.update.sony.net/DSLR/rourmNHbYZ/Update_SLTA65V104.exe
i downloaded this earlier before they take it down.
for mac
a77:
http://ids.update.sony.net/DSLR/rourmNHbYZ/Update_SLTA77V104.dmg
a65
http://ids.update.sony.net/DSLR/rourmNHbYZ/Update_SLTA65V104.dmg
Thanks!
They have obviously taken it down for a reason… Maybe to make a few more improvements! why would anyone want to install it if SONY took down the links??? its not like its something that you have to pay for… just wait for the official release when Sony are happy with the full update!
+1
I can’t see why anyone would rush to be first.
I guess if you’re not working in a production environment it doesn’t matter, but it would be sad if you can’t take that picture of grandma’s pie this Thanksgiving.
As someone that makes most of my income managing a Information Systems environment and profit generating servers, I seldom see a firmware release that it so critical that I would brag that I was first to install it.
Too often I’ve seen new firmware create new problems
FOR ANYONE WHO THINKS SONY IS GOING TO ADD NEW FEATURES TO 1.04 WITHIN A FEW DAYS GOTTA TO BE KIDDING THEMSELVES!!!!
1) Sony has a process to release firmware updates, all big companies has a process. They do not work like some dodgy Indian back street startup. They would not quickly patch stuff on a firmware and release it within a few days without going through the whole test cycle again.
2) If I am totally wrong on point 1, I would rather install 1.04 then 1.04.1…
3) The reason why it was pulled is most likely because China Webmaster probably fked up major and released the link before Sony HQ can sanction the release.
Unfortunately, The initial release was supposedly tested on the wrong processor (Major screw up), V1.03 didn’t fix all the crashes (Camera’s should never crash like Microsoft Windows, never), You would think after the A700 and noise issues that they would at at least be sensitive to noise and image IO in their new camera… Throw in the fact that they won’t communicate anything to their users which only obfuscates things…
It would be nice to believe that Sony has the SW under control, but the evidence suggests otherwise. Even dodgy Indian back street startups probably have better quality control 🙂
Don’t know what version 1.03 you were using, but mine never crashed/hung/froze/die with 1.03….
If pain persist, please see a doctor!
Any chance they will make modifications to the firmware before the official release?
For sure. That’s probably what’s going on right now. Any changes will push the build number so you should be able to upgrade even if you install this version. But don’t take my word for it.
sorry, wrong place to reply…
Yes there is a chance that they might change it before next week. The question is will you be able to update version 1.04 to version 1.04 (official release). Not sure I want to take the chance.
or they do a 1.04.1 .P
Software engineering speaking: 1.04 = 1.0.4
x.0.0 : major improvements and (certainly) new features
0.x.0 : non-major improvements
0.0.x : bug fixes…
So, I imagine that 0.0.0.x could be: fixes of self-induced bugs? 😛
That is one version number schema. Another rule is even number (2.6) is stable release and odd numbers (2.7) is developer branch, which many open source projects use. Then you have build numbers which may show in the version number, but might be a separate number. Then you have marketing issues like when a product suddenly make a jump in version number to better match the competion’s version number 🙂
But hopefully if they make further changes they will change the version number (otherwise there will be two versions in the wild with the same number, which is not good for anybody).
This is exactly why I’ll be waiting for the official release. Imagine my disappointment if I installed this unofficial 1.04 then discovered the official version next week is ‘better’ but fails to install because the updater software isn’t smart enough to see the difference in the two versions. I’d have to wait for 1.05 or more and I’d be stuck with an unofficial unsupported camera.
just downloaded and installed it.
two findings:
1. very quick power on, less than 1 second, but power off seems not improvement
2. sal1680za has apparently lens correction.
You make 2 statements, I have 2 questions:
How can you tell 16-80 za now is supported?
Any idea which, if any, other lenses now are supported?
Thanks
no idea which lenses are supported, but 16-80za is one of them. check following link:
http://www.dchome.net/viewthread.php?tid=1087719&extra=page%3D1&page=2
cheers
Sorry, I do not see it. Suppose my knowledge of German/Dutch/English/Spanish/Italian/Russian is better than (Manderine?) Chinese. I use to communicate my arms and hands a lot. Always works, even in France. This is different.
Never mind. I do appreciate you responding.
I wait for the official release. Just a matter of days.
Sony, This is another case where you could make an “official” announcement to your users to show them some respect for their time and investment in your product. This would also demonstrate your commitment to providing quality SW for your the product and its future. Or you can let the rumors fly…
Maybe, give us a before and after pictures of the IQ improvements. Or you can let some guy (who may have an agenda) post poor pictures in forums read by people all over the world.
You should have a professional team that has schedules and commitments, not some guy in a garage writing your SW. At least give us some dates and some details about what it is you are fixing. Or look like amateurs & hacks..
You mean they should have given an official statement about an accidental release of a Chinese update? I can’t believe they didn’t do that.
I do agree that they should when it’s official but we’ll see.
wrong location posted…deleted
They could (and probably should in this case), what would it hurt? Do they really want people downloading and installing SW that they haven’t officially blessed. I really don’t understand their mentality and the desire to communicate nothing.
They could say that on , will be released, it fixes . Before and after images to show IQ improvement can be located at . The next version is tentatively scheduled for and will address and stop this nonsense…
Well said SonyUser!
If its (officially) delayed another week, QA likely found some last minute blocking bugs during testing. I would wait until there’s a GA release.
Just updated my a77. Can’t say anything about the jpeg quality and iso 3200, cause I never used any. The main thing I was interested in is fighting the numerous lags that 1.03 is famous for. Well, menu travel has now become definitely more comfortable. Not so much though the work of the wheels to set the aperture and the like. Their reaction still fails my expectation. While jumping over the AF points, the joystick also shows some sluggish performance. And it still takes an eternity for the camera to switch off.
Overall, some improvement, but far from vast. Don’t set your hopes too high.
Installed and notice menu respond is better. EVF switching faster. AF faster. Image quality and noise remain. 🙁
A screen cap of ISO 6400 before and after.
http://rikilee.files.wordpress.com/2011/11/6400test.jpg
I actually think for 6400 that’s pretty good, the detail is great. But then I’m not one who concerns themselves with 100% crops…
They actually look fairly different in colour range and even noise – I think I prefer the one on the left on both counts, but which is which?
Haha, the left is actually before…..
On my screen actually both is quite identical. I wish it can go lower the noise. Still unable to clean up in Lightroom effectively. Might need to wait LR update later.
SEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!! PEOPLE!!!!!!
THERE IS IMPROVEMENT IN THE ISO QUALITY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I CAN SEE THIS WITHOUT EVEN A BEFORE AND AFTER SHOT!!!!!!!
ALL YOU DOUBTERS!!!!
*RAWR*
I thought it might be…but again LR might not be optimised for this new output.
Great – I will be pleased but please show so we can all get excited….
My A77 crashed while the update procedure. I only have now the permanent red light and nothing else works. Tried to reset, not possible. Changed batterie, nothings works. Dear Sony: This was the last time I bought a camera product from you. I had nothing like this in my Canon times.
nobody asked you to update since this wasn’t exactly an official release.
Firmware updates go wrong, nothing to do with Sony, it happens on any product including Canon’s.
Is this case covered by Sony’s warranty?
if every other one else can apply the firmware smoothly, then I guess the failure is likely user error (may be your problem, but i think the error source may be your desktop/laptop too).. Sony is definitely the one to blame.. after all, this is not an official release
Daniel
try this
Recovery procedure
If there is an issue on upgrading procedure, please do this recovery procedure:
1.Turn ON the camera.
2.Press MENU, Play, MOVIE buttons simultaneously.
3.While Pressing these buttons, turn OFF the camera.
4.Release your fingers, and wait over 30 seconds.
5.Press MENU, Play, MOVIE buttons simultaneously again.
6.While Pressing these buttons, now turn ON the camera.
7.Release your fingers.
after camera reboots,do download update again
Please perform the vulcan death grip reset as mentioned by Gene.
If that doesn’t work, go to a Sony Service Center and pay up…
IMO it’s simply not worth the risk to upgrade to a vesion that has since been removed, when the final version should be available in a matter of days. Removal may indicate problems with early upgraders that has caused Sony to take this down.
That is kind of my feeling as well.
The new focus speed is amazing, it shoots lazor beeeeams NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Guys, as someone already mentioned in sub comments: I strongly suggest you to wait for official release. Because if you install this 1.04, and then they release slightly updated 1.04, you will NOT be able to upgrade to it. Because uptater will say, that you already have latest version.
And then you will have to wait until 1.05 or hack the updater someway to make it write firmware again.
I almost flashed this 1.04 myself, but then decided to check: I now have 1.03 in the camera, I downloaded 1.03 from Sony, and it does not allow me to flash again. You can expect the same behavoir with 1.04.
I’m waiting for official release. Anyway, it shouldn’t take too long.
I’m not sure you are taking this altogether seriously…is that a new AF aid in low light
This isn’t correct. You can ‘over install’ any FW version with any other. Even when they have the same name. I just tried and you get the same prompts ‘Would you like to…..’ blah, blah.
In my opinion there is minimal risk in installing this.
So official Sony beta testers are out of luck? They’ won’t be able to upgrade their cameras?
So my Sony A55 is dead hurh.
I gave my a55 to grandma!
I agree, Sony is unlikely to change the feature-set in v1.04 as that was locked weeks if not months ago.
Please understand that Sony is only showing version number (1.04) and not the build number. I bet Sony has a new build every day during development.
Having said this, development likely ended weeks ago and alpha then beta testing was done and now what we are seeing is a release candidate or final ship code.
+10000
We can possibly track that by file (FirmwareData_SLTA65V104.dat) modification date. The one we are discussing now is stamped 22.11.2011 11.54.
actually, if you go into the properties and go to digital signature, it says it was stamped on November 21, 2011…well at least for me. i guess the time zone difference is in effect?
Its a shame they didnt include tethered support yet!
*sigh* IF they ever do it will be MONTHS AWAY.
I will wait for the official release…
how do i upgrade? what to do with the file (windows)
You upgrade by waiting for the official release…
If you are asking this question. I would seriously suggest you take your camera to a Sony service center to perform the upgrade for you.
Just having the Improvement to the focus system is a MASSIVE improvement!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I don’t understand what people are expecting???????????????
Make ICE CREAM from the sensor?????
HEY GUYS I JUST INSTALLED fw 1.04… IT STILLz NO TAKE BETTER PHOTOS FOR MAH!!!!
/sarcasm (really that was sarcastic…)
Message to Sony Marketing Team:
Dear Sony Marketing,
Please unlock ISO 256,000 on the Sony Alpha 77 so that I can just tell people that my camera can shootz at 256,000.
It will look really good on paper too!
Regards
Your Sheepish Uneducated Consumer
Well it was rumoured to do “hundreds of thousands”. I am left thinking that they were actually heard talking about what to sprinkle on their ice cream.
technically 160000 is still more than a hundred thousand 😛
Whinge time!!!!!
Number 1)
Looking back now, I am disappointed that Sony still went with the Bayer filter sensor technology.
I was so wishing they would utilize/steal the Foveon X3 Sensor technology and make a 24 MP version of it.
With that there exist the possibility of having ISO sensitivities of over 25,600 with still decent quality.
Number 2)
I know there exist purist imaging geeks in Sony tech department, however they need to STFU and allow RAW compatibility with many of the shooting modes that the Alpha range supports (panorama/multi-shot/smart tele etc)… It shits me that I can’t access some features just because I prefer to shoot in RAW.
Number 3)
Tethering!!!! Wireless Tethering!!!!
For a company that is trying to redefine the camera market…. they really are short sighted with 3rd party integration products. I am sure many people would buy a wireless tethering addon, whether it is an additional battery grip with wireless or a RJ-45 connector.
Number 4)
Sony Memory Sticks are nice to have and has very low power consumption. However you guys need to step up the speeds otherwise it just becomes an expensive version of a SD card that has hardly any compatibility with 3rd party peripherals.
Number 5)
Why did you gimp the memory buffer? You were so close Sony to having a product that would dominate the market… If you added just a bit more memory, it would have made more sense to shoot at 12 FPS. The lack of memory buffer just makes the 12 FPS shooting mode a gimmick to me.
2-5 seconds is better then 1 second of shooting.
Number 6)
Sony, please implement a compressed RAW… FFS Losless data compression has been out for Since the days of Captain Caveman…
Think about it Sony… You have a new BIONZ processor that you so whore out on the spec sheets… you are telling me it can’t do a simple compression?
Doing this will help with whinge number 5) and at the same time speed up the writing process to the memory card! Allowing more shots to be even saved on the memory card. So what if I won’t be able to tell the exact amount of shots I can take on my memory card. I would rather have the option to save compressed! Then have marketing fools dictate what I can and can’t do.
U shud B da prezident of Sony. No – da prezident of cameraz!
The whole sad part of this is that point 2,3,4 & 6 is very possible.
Point 2 & 6 is very possible in Firmware and can be done not only to the A77 but the entire alpha range…….
SONY needs to start sacking some people. Obviously they have hired a bunch of monkeys that only nods their heads and say yes…
Lord o mighty, I just sat down for 10 minutes one hand scratching my balls and the other holding the a77 looking at it with a blank expression and I figured out this shit myself….
SONY WTF!!!
Hey Sony…
I know, make the volume go up to 11….
Ohh wait… you don’t even have a volume adjustment for movie.
/sarcasm
NEW SONY ALPHA A666.6
Professional Series
64MP APS-C sensor (usable in ISO 25 only)
ISO range 25-1,000,000 (a first for APS-C)
Shoot at 140 FPS (4 RAW frame buffer and 5 in JPG)
New ZnoiB Processor (whatever the fukz that means)
DC input (but we won’t give you tethering… we just added it in for lolz)
56 new shooting modes (only usable in jpg… because pros shoot in jpg and use MS Paint to post process)
new Mode dial (10cm radius to fit all 60 shooting modes)
All the above will not work until firmware 1.5 because we loaded the wrong firmware on the release hardware.
still i think the pros outweigh the cons! 2,3 and 6 are likely inclusions in their 2.0 update!
You wish, say that to the people with A700s and fw 4.0
1) If sony created a foveon sensor sensor with a 24MP output, you couldn’t or wouldn’t pay for it. Think a camera retailing for about 10K+
2) If you start playing with RAW, its not RAW anymore (although thats arguably the case anyway for most raw files)
3) Tethering can be done over USB and usually was. Its of little use to most people and great use to a few. It comes down to a balance of priorities.
4) use SDHC UHS cards instead.
5) Using a decent UHS1 card this is getting closer to 2 seconds now.
6) The A77 already does compressed RAW, thats all it does! Worse than that its lossy compression. Previous Sony cRaw incarnations were lossless.
1) Full frame cameras use to cost 10k+ too…. Over time new fabrication process,new technology + other factors lowers the cost.
2) Yes, that was my point… But give us the option to use it at least.
3) Yes, I am sure you can tether with a string and a tin can too… The A77 is classified as a SEMI PROFESSIONAL camera. I personally would like the A77 to stream the photo to my iPad after I took a shot for review… Lord o Mighty! Another great idea… And no, I won’t put a class 6 Toshiba wifi card for transfer… the camera already has enough problems in clearing its buffer…
4) So why did Sony bother with the dual card types, Shouldn’t they invest their time in dual card slots for Raided storage???? Priorities?
5) 1.4 seconds is not 2 seconds, and yes I have a Class I card… cost something like $240.00
6) Sorry, let me clarify. All RAW format files have light compression. Some lossy some not. Nikon has the decency to offer the choice of selecting the RAW format you wish to save, full, losless or lossy.
HOWEVER we are not talking about what is already built…. Do yourself a favor and use a simple program like winRAR or ZIP and just archive the 24 MB ARW file…. it will nearly shrink by half!!!!
And it’s Lossless!
*scratches balls*
I like your feedback, I really do…
Sony should stop pretending to be a purist of imagery by retaining RAW.
JUST LOOK AT ALL THE JUNK THEY THROW ONTO THE CAMERA!
FUK! even the panorama 3D has a icon on the damn dial. FUK! what is panorama even doing on the dial!!! shouldn’t it be hidden away together with the effects section next to the toy lens option???
Teh fuk-ing movie button…. How many times have I reached in to grab the camera which is on standby and accidentally pressed the BIG RED movie button…. YEAH I KNOW! I KNOW! It’s all about movies with digital at the moment…. BUT FFS WTH!!!
If Sony was serious about preserving RAW, there should only be 4 things on the dial… P A S M
Could you update to 1.03 again then do the 1.04 again or will it also say you have the latest version?
As far as I know you can’t downgrade.
One way street my friend…
You know you want to flash it…. yes you do!
One of us! One of us! One of us!
I’ll just wait:)
People have no time to take pictures now a days it seems!!!
My request to sony engineers will be atleast for their sony a77 replacement! its a shame we are already thinking of successor isnt it?
1.) tethered support ffs!
2.) increase the buffer, no one wants 12fps if its just for a second, disappointing!
3.) cut the short review of images while doing continuous shooting and add continuous shooting in live view mode and also improvise the exposure metering in 12fps mode!
4.) compressed raw is must and make sure you can access some features and shoot them in raw as well!
5.) improve the shitty image quality and jpeg quality! who the hell needs 24mp if its at the cost of noise performance? either incorporate FF sensor or trim down the pixel or quit the dslr market!
6.) allow users to control the audio and mic in video modes
7.) improve the battery life and adding another SD card slot would be handy for semi pro shooters as well!
1) if tethered shooting is really important to you buy yourself a eye-fi card, I’ve got one it works great.
Tethered shooting does a lot more than just transferring the images. You can actually control the camera settings on your PC for example.
I do agree! The autofocus when shooting like 10 fps is not working at all! It has no chance to track subjects coming towards the cam, and not even hven object mooves away from you, the focus is`nt as close ass good as Sony tell us!
Cut all those unusable things ass face detections, 3D Panorama. 12 fps for 1 sec and 24 Mps with way to much noise away. We want quality images that we can be proud of.
I get the point that Sony need to use media to get their product out. By making a product full of specs and with NEW funtions all the way! New tec front covers!
BUT Dont forget what the foto iss all about! Capturing lights and moments! IF you loose light through a “clever mirror technology”, you atlees have to increese the ISO funtionality to compansate. We want light! simlpe!
I feel like sony kinda Lost on the ISO race, (sony noise) And decided to find another way to get their popularity up! So they made a revelutionary 24 mp 12fps dust sieled SLT system camera ! to a resenebly price. That dosent work as well as we expected from it to do! :S
I got my A77 and like it alot, but there are so many strange things about aswell!
Take the time and learn how to us it. Auto focus works great at 10fps.
I’m always amazed people think the translucent mirror will imprive the tracking capability. It can’t compensate the lack of enough AF points.
I’m always amazed at the assumptions people make. Where was it said that the that translucent mirror makes the difference? I’ve had the camera for 6 weeks and know of what I speak. The AF system is heads and tails above my a350 and I believe it’s the package not just the mirror. Have you even used the camera?
@SPN “The autofocus when shooting like 10 fps is not working at all! It has no chance to track subjects coming towards the cam, and not even hven object mooves away from you, the focus is`nt as close ass good as Sony tell us! ”
Are you sure about this, I’ve seen quite a few test testing this scenario, maybe lens is a factor if the tracking works/locks on good or bad? BTW my A77 can’t shoot at 10FPS?
The reason that people struggle with AF tracking is that the A77 is less forgiving if you are slightly off.
It is easy for a user to focus on the wrong thing when tracking, the A77 is focusing on where you are actually focussing, not where YOU think you are focussing.
It isn’t a camera problem, it’s a user problem. 🙂
I was hoping the next SONY dslr would have a little flap door tucked away behind the LCD and that you could open it up and insert a 16 MP sensor, or 24MP sensor, or 36MP sensor that you would buy separate from the camera. That way SONY would please a lot of people who have different ideas of what a DSLR/T should be. Hell, they could even have a 72MP sensor, just for those who NEED to brag. The image might be crap, but eh…..Hot Damn, this Rum and Jimson juice is great stuff!!! You get to dream really crazy stuff…..
Installed firmware on A77 with Norwegian Language, works like a charm. The camera is snappier first of all.
Can someone upload the Mac (version) for A77 on a file-sharing server? Or possibly email to me? It looks like they have removed the file from their servers.
EDIT: Nevermind, someone was kind enough to post a Dropbox link to download the files in case Sony pulled it!
http://pastebin.com/w8b10HJV
do the Canonist have all these issues with their cameras?
I don’t understand why Sony does all of these experiments with cameras, in two months they released 3 different firmware releases…
This means that the Sony Alpha line programmers don’t know well how to do their job.
Yes Canon have firmware problems. You could also ask Nikon D7000 users how they felt about their auto-focus problem too. 😀
Hmmmmm…. I find it that High ISOs is more usable, however the distortions caused by the noise is a bit more “grouped” after IDC 4.0 performs its Noise reduction.
I feel that the noise is behaving differently now… Just when I perfected my post processing pipeline…. I have to now go and start experimenting again…
I think IDC 4 is rubbish, 3.2 was a vast improvement for previous cameras, but IDC 4 for the A77 isn’t!
Hi there – well.
My son and I both have A77s, so we updated one of them and did a comparison of viewfinder to LCD and back, shutdown times etc.
We came to the conclusion that there was really no difference at all – none.
So I’ll be interested to find out what the firmware update is really designed to do!
They got rid of the startup bug when using a grip. That alone makes this worth flashing.
Odd, because as you can see here there are plenty of people saying there is a difference.
Thanks for the link guys!
I immediately noticed much faster start up, EVF/LCD switch, and AF… hope it addresses our occasional lock up problem. Snapped off a few at ISO 6400 that looked pretty decent!
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I was going to buy the body, but have decided to stretch for the 16-50mm simply because it is SSM! Weather sealing is nice too in the UK.
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I guess I know why they deleted the 1.04 firmware… try to shoot a panorama… It sucks bad! (It was perfect tho in 1.03) So I’m assuming that’s the reason.
new firmware now available in japan