In one single day we got five new Full Frame E-mount lenses! They have been announced by Handevision and unlike the [shoplink 43033 ebay]super expensive 40mm f/0.85[/shoplink] they announced last year those new lenses are quite cool and affordable:
35mm f/2.4 (ships January 2016).
50mm f/2.4 (ships January 2016)
75mm f/2.4 (ships January 2016)
24mm f/2.4 (ships later in 2016)
90mm f/2.4 (ships later in 2016)
The price is said to be around $480 and $660.
Here is the spec table and the full press release found via Fujirumors:
HandeVision IBERIT f2.4 / 24,35,50,75 and 90 mm announcement
HandeVision│ Germany OSD optical system development company (OSD Optic System Development GmbH) is pleased to announce a 35 mm full-size correspondence of IBERIT (Iberitto) Series. With this product, a single-focus lens of open F2.4, focal length 24mm, 35mm, 50mm, 75mm, and the line up 90mm. The lens barrel is in two colors, black and silver. Mount to release first, the Sony E mount, Fujifilm X-mount, with three types of Leica M mount, Leica M mount is compatible with rangefinder.
HandeVision is May 2013, it announced the brightest IBELUX 40mm F0.85 as a mirror-less machine lens, became a big topic. Through the development period of it from two years, HandeVision is Germany and joint brand of China is pleased to announce the new lens family “IBERIT” of the corresponding full-size long-awaited.
Compact IBERIT is an optimized lens to the mirror-less system. It is sufficiently small in a variety of shooting scenes, and I will have a satisfactory brightness. For example, portrait, landscape photography, in street snap, and cut sharply the subject from the background. IBERIT is any visual image that you’ll want to take, it is a high-performance manual lens us to creatively realized.
For capitalize the benefits of development in the mirror-less system, we have paid close attention to the size and weight of the lens. In addition, this lens is compatible with both the full-size image sensors and APS-C image sensor.
Lens design while to follow the traditional optical design technology, it has been optimized to achieve the best performance in the digital image sensor. This product is compatible with Sony E mount and Fujifilm X-mount, but it does not correspond to the iris auto focus and electrons. However, the smooth focus ring of IBERIT, the photographer can freely control the focusing at their own will. Compared with the auto focus can be take advantage of the photographer’s experience, creative motivation is increasing and will be able to my thing more unique photo.
In contrast to the recent trend to intensive plastic, IBERIT was revisited in made an excellent metal to traditional and durability. Aluminum and anodized proven quality in IBELUX 40mm F0.85, such as brass for the focusing system, is always prepared in a material that is good at durability. IBERIT by high-quality manufacturing technology and design come in tired, we are striving to differentiate itself from other products.
This lens it is based on the “German engineering”. To perform development and testing in Germany, it was produced by the Shanghai factory in accordance with the quality standards of Germany. So to speak, is a product that dwells is Manufacturing of Germany flow.
IBERIT than early 1 月 年 2016, 35mm, 50mm, will be sold starting in such a 75mm camera specialty store. 24mm and 90mm is scheduled for released in 2016 year.
Retail asking price depends on the type and the corresponding mount, but is expected to be in 480 ~ 660US dollars.
The total selling agency is Germany OSD optical system development company (OSD Optic System Development GmbH). The company is Shanghai Legend view shooting Co., Ltd. and joint-stock company of Germany IB / E Optics.
www.osd-gmbh.com
info@osd-gmbh.com
116 Responses
So am I reading this pigeon English correctly by assuming they’re all manual focus?!
Hopefully their lenses are better than their English, but I very much doubt it.
Yes, they are.
The original press release is in Japanese. Patrick, admin of Fuji Rumors, let Google translate it. Here the Japanese text should you prefer it:
http://www.handevision.jp/info/?p=202
So its in sony and fuji mount? But fuji is aps-c, are you sure these are FE designation? And it has AF, right? Otherwise i see alot of people no longer interested.
I don’t think that these lenses will have AF. Pretty sure this will be manual only.
Actually it is made for Leica M.
For Sony E you pay the compromise of having another cm of lens length.
And for Fuji X you pay the compromise of having the weight of a FF lens used on a smaller sensor.
And improved close focus.
Why shoud you get improved close focus?
Their spec sheet already state that, it works like it is mounted on the Voitglander Close-focus M-mount adapter.
Because minimum focusing distance is restrained with rangefinder cameras: due to the parallax between finder and lens, there is no use (nor rangefinder coupling) for a minimum focusing distance closer than 0.7m.
Doesn’t this depend on the FL / FoV?
The rangefinder coupling limit is fixed anyway and 0.7m is therefore commonly used for designing rangefinder lenses (except those the focal length of which triggers a farther minimum focusing distance).
Google translate, great, alongside M mount lenses with built in adapter barrel, no wonder they’re so slow yet so long.
Love the new lenses, but more manual focus lenses isn’t what we need. We have an endless sea of options for adapting manual lenses onto Sony mirrorless systems. We need more native AF lenses. What’s the point of having a super fancy AF system if there’s barely any AF lenses you can use them with? I’m looking forward to see what Sony releases in their January press release at CES
i don’t think we can expect so cheap lenses from Sony…..Moreover if they can be high IQ lens then i will try one until i can afford one more Sony or Zeiss AF lenses :D…. Indeed MF lens are harder to handle, but i think it s a good practice to enjoy photography more than when u point and shoot only… Do we always need AF lenses when we are not a pro-photographer ( it’s a dilemna as they are more skilled to not need it) or maybe i m nostalgic ?
I have a Sony FE 28mm f2 AF. It’s cheaper than any of these lenses and I’m very happy about the results. I’m a non-professional street photographer and AF helps me to capture the right moment. Of course there are many good street photographers who use MF only but they usually use zone focusing – i.e. they have limited control over the depth of field.
right…. street photography is the right example for AF lenses indeed
Another bunch of narrow-aperture manual focus 35mm and 50mm’s that nobody asked for.
Another comment that nobody asked for.
Too expensive. Sure, they are probably good in terms of IQ, but for the similar amount of money you can have Samyang lenses, which are faster and likely as sharp, if not sharper.
at least, these have a kind of “Zeiss” look… probably not the IQ, just the outside 😉
But I like the Sammy’s too…
Too expensive? Have you seen the other lens prices for E-mount?
Of course i’ve seen the prices for other e-mount lenses, but it doesn’t mean that these Handevision lenses can’t be called too expensive. There are a whole bunch of alternatives to these that cost less (Samyang, adapted EF and A mount, including third party)
only the 75mm seems to be a real addition to the focal-length-pool of already existing lenses.
For my point of view, I won’t buy neither the 24 (despite larger field of view) or the 35mm for that price since there is a pretty good FE 28/f2.0 Sony native lens with AF available with similar price. I know, there may be some drawbacks of the focus-by-wire; but honestly, in >95% it doesn’t matter…..
But at least it’s good to see that there are a lot of 3rd party companies now interested in E mount. So, Tamron&Sigma, start to produce native lenses!!!
I would say it is a native Leica-M mount lens. But unlike an other company (I don’t want to name) they decided to go for a native built in adapter for E-mount. (And X-mount, because it’s cheap)
Very nice to see e-mount lens selection growing to meet the demands…
And what a nice looking lineup it’s turning out to be also(very sexy).
I think these lenses are much more interesting for Leica M users.
When it comes to sexy look. Well that’s a matter of taste. Here’s what I consider sexy:
http://www.newhdwallpapers.in/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/Sexy-Emma-Watson-269×170.jpg
Emma Watson?
Yep.
I am really hoping you aren’t the creepy old man in your profile right now.
lolol
Another comment that nobody asked for.
True, doesn’t make it less creepy.
Sorry, I don’t know whats your problem or what you are talking about.
Dawkins in drag
I’m unsure why the 50mm would only have an F-stop of 2.4 when that focal length is supposed to be very easy to design. It’s quite slow for that focal length.
If only these worked like the loxia lenses, with exif and auto magnification etc
Agreed.
Seem like only Voigtlander tested the Loxias.
Pretty sure Voigtlander build the Loxias, or Cosina that is.
Cosina are manufacturing both the Loxia and Voigtländer lenses, see their website. In addition, they design the Voigtländer-branded lenses (they bought the licence to use the Voigtländer brand name from Ringfoto GmbH & Co. Alfo Marketing KG in 1999).
Wow, they try to copy Leica and screw up their English at the same time.
Besides that, they deliver the first compact native mount 24mm lens which is nice.
MF f/2.4 pricier than the Sony 28/2, and not so much cheaper than Sigma AF f/1.4 art lenses. I wouldn’t call it affordable.
at 15.30 CET amazon.de is doing a goldbox of the ibelux 40mm f0.80 aps-c e-mount
http://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B00I01S3LY/ref=gb1h_img_c-4_3647_9b2b742b?pf_rd_m=A3JWKAKR8XB7XF&pf_rd_t=701&pf_rd_s=center-new-4&pf_rd_r=0GSMN8152WVJ5G2XZ39F&pf_rd_i=20&pf_rd_p=773863647
so much wow, not. b&h sells their ibelux 40mm f/0.85 for $800, down from $1900, plus it has no reviews. tells a story about what to expect here…
At this price point I expected to work like Loxia…
It seems that only Voigtlander understand how great it is.
I really want Voigtlander to release an adapter for M lenses that uses the RF coupling to invoke the MF assist function through a mechanical to electronic M mount adapter turning every RF coupled M lens into a ‘Loxia style’ MF lens.
Yes, exactly. I’ve been thinking about hacking something like this together myself, but I don’t need another project.
My thought is to modify a close-focus adapter so that any movement in in the CF adapter triggers the assist. I bet Hawk or Yeenon would be down to make something like this.
No electronics again, huh? Just shows how cheap optical design these days, just put parameters into software and voila.
Because optical design is directly linked to electronics ?
In AF lenses – yes, you should be able to move focusing group quickly.
They are basically Leica M lenses. E-mount and Fuji-mount variants are just adapted, which means no electronics whatsoever. It’s very good that you can use your existing M-mount glass on any E-mount camera, but I would never buy such a lens for an E-mount body.
The design is pretty neat though.
I would buy the M’s, but many don’t like adapters.
Yes – I am one of the many.
If you don’t have a Leica-M and if you don’t want to buy one, then the included E-mount adapter is the better choice.
And: if you don’t want to change from E-mount to X-mount one day…
I wish Samyang (and others) would release these MF lenses in M mount as a kind of ‘universal’ mirrorless mount. But I understand people wanting theirs in a native mount.
Yes – each adapter causes a small mechanical missfit. And if I shoot my purlitzer-price-winning pictures of a plain brick-wall from a short distance, I can see some corner softness in the edges.
Joking aside:
M-mount has 9.9mm more flange distance than E-mount and 10.2mm more than X-mount. If lenses are designed for M-mount, each gets 1cm longer for E and X mount. The additional 2.5 cm of DSLR lenses is definitely something I am not willing to waste on small lenses!
1 cm? Maybe – but it feels not perfect. Having 18mm flange-lenses are perfect for Sony-E and Canon-EF-M. And on Fuji-X you waste only 0.3 mm. Why declaring Leica-M as a ‘universal’ mount if it is the expensive exception?
For APS-C sized lenses we can talk about 19.25 mm flange designs, so it can be used for m43, too.
Problem is, M lenses don’t play nice with Sony E-Mount cameras.. The sensor cover glass for Sony is a lot thicker and it causes problems with the corners.
Leica has a really thin sensor cover glass.. it used to cause a lot of IR contamination in the old M8 and some in the M9.
I see the complainers are out in force….
Always.
At those prices they’ve could have been at least f1,8 lenses.
Well this is a full suite of m43’s f1.2 equiv primes, seems pretty ok to me.
Then what are you waiting for, hurry and buy them all ! 😉
Uhm, they aren’t available yet?
I pretty sure, soon you’ll have the chance (even here) to preorder them. 😉
all the action and excitement is happening around the Sonys.
can’t wait to skip them..
i want more zooms. 30-90/4-ish or 30-120/4-ish and 100-300/5.6-ish
Chinese manual lenses at those prices? I’d rather stick to my old good Japanese and German legacy glass for bargain prices. That’s one of the strongest points about mirrorless.
Here you go, we got the five Sony lenses we have been waiting for
Again, how many similar FL manual focus lenses do we really need?
To be honest: The more the better.
Competition raises either IQ or lowers the price – or both.
But I would prefer Sigma or Tamron making AF-lenses in Sigma-Art quality, designed for 18mm flange distance. And with typical Sigma/Tamron prices for DSLR-counterparts.
I agree with you about “Competition raises either IQ or lowers the price – or both”
However, what a7 shooters REALLY need are longer native lenses.
That’s what YOU need. I prefer these… See how people are different?
Back to the original point… how many different 50mm lenses do you need?
I have about twenty 50-58mm lenses, is it not better to have the choice than to not have one?
“Competition raises IQ or lowers the price”
OK so that’s why Canon and Nikon lenses are so cheap, right?
I didn’t say lenses from become cheaper – I said lenses for Sony become cheaper.
Sigma and Tamron are for Canon and Nikon – and they are really cheap if you compare to similar spec+quality Sony-FE.
After all the whining about the lack of lenses who cares if there are more than one 50mm lens options, how many zooms that cover 28-70 does the format need?
Name one native f2.8 zoom for the FL you mentioned.
Cute, albeit somewhat halfassed, presumably, to maintain production costs: too slow on 35 and 50 when could/should’ve been faster, no electronics, and no clickless aperture as these could’ve had potential for motion (same diameter?). Results to be seen, yet I have 0 interest, personally. I welcome having choices but this might be the case of more isn’t = good.
The nearly 65%+ discount nowadays on that 40mm F0.85 show the lucklaster interest in their products (non-existent?). I’ve yet to see anyone use it for anything other than “testing” since the release. Also, the uber sloppy translation continue to show lack of care and QA from Handevision. Pass…
Waiting for Zeiss’s next releases and for Sigma to join the E fun 🙂
Yeah, I really wish Sigma would jump in soon. The few lenses they made for the APS-C E-mount are superb, and affordable to boot. It’d be nice to see them drop some FE lenses.
The problem of the Ibelux was its price tag. Except for the enthusiasts caught by F0.85 I assume there have not been many. But that was (maybe wished for) not expected.
During PK14 I had a chat with the German chairman and lead designer, and at that time he mentioned, that if the Ibelux would need to recover the R&D he wouldn’t have considered it. He said he made it, because he wanted, and because he could do (he is a photo enthusiast).
Although I don’t have interest in these lenses either I join you in welcoming having choices.
No the problem was the frame, 0.85 on half frame is quite pointless, since you have many choices of FF 0.95 already. If they made a f/0.85 FF…that would’ve been something..
Because fast lenses are too mainstream.
If these are actually as. Ice as the Leica Summarit series then they might be worth while. Maybe. Not top my list though.
How strange. What target group have they imagined?
These lenses would have to be tack sharp from 2…4 with heavenly bokeh in order to sell.
They’re probably just trying to cash in on Sony’s mirrorless success.
It just adds to the impression that native e-mount lenses are wanting.
> How strange. What target group have they imagined?
Ibelux f/0.85 Noctilux f/0.95
Iberit f/2.4 Summarit f/2.4.
Et voilà!
Yeah, well. If they deliver half of Leica‘s performance for a fifth of the price, it might be interesting.
But like our friends above, I did peruse the spec sheet an found them a bit low on elements and blades.
But in this case, I‘m only happy if I‘m proved wrong 😉
I totally agree with you with their reasons for making these lenses.
With Sigma’s ART series, the Zeiss Loxia/Batis/Milvus lines, and a couple lenses from Sony, I don’t think the a7 series is really hurting for quality primes (manual focus especially).
If Sigma or Tamron were to come out with a great FE f/2.8 lens there might be a lot of money in that– especially since it’s not just photographers that want that lens- all of Sony’s video cameras use E-mount until you’re spending over $25K.
Focusing distance looks good but only 6 blades outside of the 75mm? Ouch.
I’d just adapt over some Contax G glass for less than half that.
There is a 75mm Contax G?
UWA is missing here. That’s the only lens I would not care its speed. f4 is fine…
I hope those lenses are priced accordingly with the market. 35mm f2.4 if it’s superb wide open, I would accept it at 600USD maximum given that the Voigtlander 35 f1.4 sells for 630 (Although it doesn’t perform perfectly wide open).
They are there in China really hold people for morons. Just read carefully specs. No asphericals = no sharpness across the frame. Too few lens elements (6 мах, 4 for tele! facepalm: ) = bad corrected aberrations. Too few iris blades = bad bokeh. Tele have 11 blades and may have bokeh potentially decent, but only 4 lens elements! Hey, now 21th century, not a 19th.
Conclusion: It’s a lot of overpriced Chinese sh*t, gentlemen colleagues.
I thought the same. 6 Blades in 2015? 4 Elements for 90mm? The dig out some old construction and made a nice housing.
I already have some old constructions in used, but nice housings. There is Minolta written on them 🙂
Maybe Minolta should start producing their old designs, now with E mount 😉
Some could be even better than some dedicated new designs…
85/2! With coatings and rounded blades.
But to be honest they have character and are sharp on my A7s, but can not touch the new Sony primes. So they complement quite fine!
if they were AF and having great corners i’ll buy them all as a set..
My grandfather Alon always told me, “Don’t buy cheap because it’s cheap, buy the best you can afford” …
Does that apply to hook….nevermind.
I like the retro clean look, but given their history these must be way overpriced and deliver underwhelming results. Atleast Zhongyi/ZY Optics isn’t pretending to be super classy where you pay double or tripple worth just because it must mean expensive = better or brand = expensive = better. Then there’s even C-mounts that cover APS-C for cheap that might rival this. If you’re going to spend money… there’s SLR Magic… Rokinon/Samyang/Walimex Pro…
Judging by the fact that no one in Germany was even willing to write the fkn press release for them, I’m guessing this is a 99 percent Chinese effort with next to no “‘German engineering.'”
Anyway, with a max aperture of 2.4 across the range, I wouldn’t care what they sold for, I wouldn’t buy one. I’m guessing the f/2.4 wasn’t engineered from the start but became the max aperture because of image quality concerns at some point- or for cost cutting reasons. Idk. Either way the whole effort looks ridiculous.
They’ll be on ebay for 1/3rd retail in a few months anyway.
Rokinon already makes cheap Manual Focus lenses.
Where are the autofocus lenses by the third parties?
I’ve gotten Sigma EX DN lenses on the ultra cheap. Optically terrific for the price. Their ART line-up is certainly worth while, but was hoping they’d bring out those spectacular prices again.
Unfortunately Rokinon has all APS-C lenses and only one full frame lens. These IBERIT are all full frame. Look forward to a review and sample photos to see if that are any good.
Well, this is truly good news, while Zeiss keeps this strange silence that looks like some Sony partership marketing campaing of speculate whats coming next, hande just launched all many.
Waiting for the review!
how much does it cost, to hire a nativ english speaker… or a student of english literature to write
the press release? i guess not too much more than who ever wrote this embarrassing attempt!
if they already cheap out on those 50 bucks…
also 4 elements and 4 groups? wtf? this sounds like a science fair project!
i think i shouldn’t even ask, if they used coatings…. but hey: it’s only around 500$! (joke)
They safe weight using less elements maybe 😉
It seems that the guys from sonyalpharumors have copied the text from handevision.jp and translated it with google translate. The original announcement text in english is here:
http://handevision.de/iberit-the-new-full-frame-lens-series-from-handevision/
Made in Germany + cheap = low quality. Workforce in Germany is very expensive, so to make a cheap product means very low quality. Ibelux 40mm f0.85 was released at $2000 price point, now it sells for $800, and still no one buys it. I dont think rest of them will be much better.
These aren’t exotic lenses. They are pretty slow prime lenses. Not a big stretch to design and build. Also pure MF so I don’t think they took that much effort to design. $500 for these slow MF lenses isn’t going to get anyone’s pulse racing. The Rokinon manual focus lenses are all far faster and cheaper than these.
And a lot better, i guarantee. $500 is insanely cheap for GER lens, but it was my mistake, i misread it. It is made in China, following German standards, blahblah…..
I’m coming to the realization that if the lens isn’t special it isn’t worth my time. To many lenses and not enough time. There are only two I can think of that I currently don’t own. The 35mm F2 loxia- I think it’s special. I also don’t own the 135mm 2.8 STF…which after some research as of late…is hitting the special radar.
that stf is on my list. I really wish they made a full line of stf lenses
Sample images or it never happened.