The new BATIS 85mm and 25mm lenses have an OLED display on lens!
Preorder links:
Zeiss Batis 85mm f/1.8 lens at Adorama (Click here), Bhphoto (Click here).
Zeiss Batis 25mm f/2.0 lens at Adorama (Click here), Bhphoto (Click here).
Lens shade for 85mm at Adorama (Click here), Bhphoto (Click here).
Lens shade for 25mm at Adorama (Click here), Bhphoto (Click here).
New Zeiss Batis key info and specs:
Chapeau Zeiss! The new BATIS lens announcement just added a huge value to the FE system. Those are the key points of the new lenses:
1) They are the first Full Frame Zeiss lenses with autofocus
2) Those are the first worldwide lenses with OLED display on lens to show aperture and dpeth of field info. And at startup it reminds you what you spent $$$ for with a “ZEISS” writing 🙂
3) The 85mm f/1.8 is the first Zeiss with optical stabilization.
The lenses are also weather sealed!
And here are the specs:
Technical specifications Zeiss
| Product | Zeiss Batis 2/25 | Batis Zeiss 1.8 / 85 |
| Focal length | 25 mm | 85 mm |
| Aperture range | f / 2 – f / 22 | f / 1.8 – f / 22 |
| Elements / groups | 10/8 | 11/8 |
| Focusing | 0.2 m – infinity | 0.80 m – infinity |
| Working distance | 0.13 m – infinity | 0.71 m – infinity |
| Field ** (diag. / Horiz. / Vert.) | 82 ° / 72 ° / 51 ° | 29 ° / 24 ° / 16 ° |
| Image circle diameter | 43.3 mm | 43.3 mm |
| Coverage at close range ** | 12.4 mm × 18.7 mm | 18.9 mm × 28.3 mm |
| Magnification at close range | 1: 5.2 | 1: 7.9 |
| Filter Diameter | M67 x 0.75 | M67 x 0.75 |
| Diameter max. | 81 mm | 81 mm |
| Diameter of the focus | 78 mm | 78 mm |
| Length (without lens cap) | 78 mm | 92 mm |
| Length (with lens caps) | 92 mm | 105 mm |
| Weight | 335 g | 475 g |
| Camera mounts | E-mount | E-mount |
| Focal length | 25 mm | 85 mm |
| Aperture range | f / 2 – f / 22 | f / 1.8 – f / 22 |
| Elements / groups | 10/8 | 11/8 |
| Focusing | 0.2 m – infinity | 0.80 m – infinity |
| Working distance | 0.13 m – infinity | 0.71 m – infinity |
| Field ** (diag. / Horiz. / Vert.) | 82 ° / 72 ° / 51 ° | 29 ° / 24 ° / 16 ° |
Full press release and more images can be seen on that SAR post. And here are the Adorama preorder links (Click on the image):
Reminder: Tomorrow (April 23) big Sony announcement! Follow live on SAR at 12,00 London time.
Zeiss Batis 85mm f/1.8 lens at Adorama (Click here), Bhphoto (Click here).
Zeiss Batis 25mm f/2.0 lens at Adorama (Click here), Bhphoto (Click here).
Lens shade for 85mm at Adorama (Click here), Bhphoto (Click here).
Lens shade for 25mm at Adorama (Click here), Bhphoto (Click here).
172 Responses
Still, I do not believe a Batis lens to have optical stabilization.
85 1.8…. a dream came true
If you write the Public Relations guy (Tobias Brandstetter) you will quickly receive confirmation that it will. (At least that is what I did, because I thought it may have been a translation error…)
Admin !! Help!!
And what will that mean for the camera-system?: Batis is not meant for the A7II and that the A7RII, A7SII and the Pro A9 line will not come with IBIS since 2x IBIS certainly makes no sense. 😮 ?? Or Zeiss knows, that CaNikon will soon follow with unstabilized FF mirrorless cameras.
Room for speculation…
Nobody tell me to switch off IBIS if IBIS is not needed at all in that Sony camera system. Something is fishy here – churn churn
Now I’m comfused. Is it shipping in the summer or it’s already available?
Yesterday I didn’t even believe a Batis lens was a thing.
People complaining that F1.8 isn’t fast enough and that 25mm isn’t wide enough coming soon!
25 isn’t Wide Enough!
The 85 mm I will definately buy! The WA….. wish it was 21mm, but also 25mm is tempting. All in all what a nice, non-rumored surprise! AF, OLED display, 85mm stabilised. Great for the (F)E system.
I’m a little confused. Is this shipping during the summer or it’s available already?
On the News Shooter video that was online earlier, the Zeiss rep said the 2/25 would be available in June and the 1.8/85 in July.
Adorama’s site confused me, they said “New Arrival” on there site and orders can be placed now. That’s what made me thought it’s available now.
Kind of wish it was as the 25/2 is exactly what I’m looking for. Now it’s making my decision to get the 28/2 even harder because I do need it before mid next month……
Rent one, then buy the better one.
People who think OS is not real. Zeiss did this lens to be then available in different mount (future Nikon mirorless…) so with OS because not all will be 5 axis like Sony.
They say this line is designed especially for Sony FE. And OSS works better than IBIS alone, you don’t get much stabilized live-view using non OSS lens on A7ii.
In addition, the vast majority of the install base for E mount is cameras without IBIS.
Why should Zeiss plan with a product that is not on the market and even unclear if it comes and how it comes?
The last statement for nikon mirrorless FF was to keep F-mount. So this lens wouldn’t work in any way.
I want them both. If the 85 was all we would hear is its to big and it would be bigger if it was. Pricing is right there and size and weight are what Pros like me expect. Really not a bloody thing to complain about maybe the best announcement yet for Sony A7 series. I just bought both the Loxias and these are perfect in the lineup
On a point of order, these are not the “first Full Frame Zeiss lenses with autofocus”. The Contax N-Series used Zeiss autofocus lenses.
Why would I want an OLED ON the lens? WHY!!!!!! WHY!!!!! This is just something to wear out and break over time. This makes ZERO sense. I have to be missing something here.
Focus by wire lenses cannot use a traditional focus/depth of field scale on the lens barrel – so Zeiss is experimenting here with a digital display instead.
I see. They’ve got serious Ballls to take that risk. I’d rather the lens communicate it to the camera. I can check all that stuff on the back screen or throw an LCD on the top deck. It’s not that hard to memorize your DOF scale relative to distance.
Why? How many times have you had a simple LED/OLED screen fail in any of your electronics even really old ones?
Well, I’ve also never held on to a camera for 5-10 years. Lenses I do and they get used much more than my bodies. I’d also expect an OLED to be more prone to wear than an LED.
And it would be great to hold it at waist level for a quick snapshot. Peeking at the OLED display will probably be easier than trying to make out small fonts on the back LCD flipped horizontally
Orly? :))))))))))))))) What about Canon 85 1.2…
If you don’t need it then you won’t miss it when the screen goes dead.
I agree, but think it has limited usefulness anyway. If you need a distance scale on an emount camera, wouldn’t it be easier to have it displayed on the camera?
I agree that it seems silly to have an OLED on the lens. I guess that when it does quit working the lens will function just fine still?
Come on, its 2015 now, just like all new supercars uss OLED/LCD screen for speedometer.
An LCD on the lens is hardly a feature that photogs everywhere have been clamoring for, but certainly one that differentiates the Batis lenses from the Loxia lineup. Seems more useful on a normal or wide angle than a portrait/shot tele, however.
And also the smooth rubber focus ring, should be a scratch paradise and will end up sticky from the looks of the finish~=(
I’m not worried about it breaking, but it seems completely unnecessary given the camera read-out. Plus it will take battery power to run. Given that, it seems like a backwards step. An only style reflective LCD would make more sense – better in sunlight, and very low power.
Admin it is bigger than the first Zeiss full frame with stabilizer. It is the first ever 85 full frame lens from any manufacturer to feature optical stabilizer! The only one who has one is m43 42.5 panaleica but it is a 85mm equivalent and not a true 85. So Zeiss is first here
I wonder how this will affect the Loxia line?
Me too. I was hoping for a 25/2 Loxia, but since this has come as a Batis, I guess the wide-angle Loxia later this year will be a 21mm or 18mm.
I just bought the Loxia 35 and 50. It should not effect them more much but we won’t see a Batis 35 and 50 anytime soon either. Maybe a year so for folks like me our Loxias will still get a lot of use before we trade up to the Batis 35 and 50. Besides the Loxia’s are beautiful lens s that render very very nicely. Now the Batis line if they do come out with a 35 and 50 my bet for keeping the same 67mm filter thread it would most likely be 1.8 lenses. Also video shooters want the Loxia line. Nice to have these choices
According to a Zeiss rep for their facebook page, new Loxias is coming. No worries!
Ther will be new loxia lenses, at least one wide angle lens are promised. You could read about this in an comment made by the Zeiss rep on the Zeiss facebook page more than a month ago. Wich lens, we do not know yet, most likely to bea 25 or 21mm,
I am waiting for the usual suspects to talk about the lack of new APS-C E mount lens announcements.
Very nice lens !! Especially the 85mm !! But for me It’s not enough coming from 55mm Zeiss. I really wish to have a 135mm F2 with optical stabilizer. Maybe in end 2015 or early 2016 ?
Uh, so, what makes these different from that 35mm/1.4, which also sports a Zeiss label and autofocuses, too?
Number of Aperture Blades?
34
My sunbursts will be crazy!
wonderful, but I am really sad these lenses without physical aperture ring!! 🙁
25mm * 1.5 = 37.5mm FF eqv + F2 + OSS, thats one hack of a lens for A6000 to do street photography.
The 25 doesn’t have OSS.
Well it might if the A6100 gets IBIS 😉
The lens won’t suddenly gain OSS if you might it on an IBIS body. And it will still miss out on the extra dual IS.
yeah… but the lens is still 25mm on a6000 🙂
It is still 37.5mm equivalent. Different angle of view.
I don’t think that’s the point he is trying to make
so the the view angle is equivalent of 37.5mm’s view angle 🙂
the lens is still 25mm even if it’s attached to a Mercedes Benz 🙂
What is your point?
On APS-C we get 37.5mm FOV, F2 light gathering and better DOF.
The point is that the lens is still a 25mm, behaves like a 25mm and that it is not 37.5mm. Just the FOV is more narrow.
No, it behaves like a 37.5mm equivalent. THAT is the point.
Grab an imaginary 37.5mm FF lens and full frame camera and compare it to a 25mm on APS-C camera. Take shots from the same place. Perspective is the same. Angle of view is the same.
No, it doesn’t. The compression between a 25mm and a 37.5mm lens is not the same. DOF is not the same. The only thing that is the same is the length and amount of light it gathers while the FOV is narrower because it is cropped.
But that’s utterly false.
Maybe if you don’t know how optics work, sure.
25mm / f2 on APS-C behaves exactly like a
37.5mm / f3 on FF
No, the DOF behaves alike. Compression is an utterly different matter.
Ho. So now DOF is the same?
Can you just stfu and stop spreading bullshit while changing your mind each comment, plz?
Please show me where I say that?
You can’t even remember what you have written 20 minutes ago? You could a least read yourself before posting (once again) a useless comment.
The good thing is now you seem aware that you were false from the beginning. Yet, you insulted my knowledge while being the idiot.
I never said DOF is the same.
“No, the DOF behaves alike.”
What did you mean by that, then?
25 f/2 and 37 f/3 has similar DOF…
Well I’m now not sure what you said or meant or implied, as you said you didn’t say something that you’re now saying you did.
I said a 25 f/2 and does not have the same DOF as a 37.5mm lens with the same aperture. I did say a 25 f/2 and a 37.5mm f/3 did have similar DOF. So no, I still never said they were the same (with the assumption of the same aperture), and yes I said in that comparison with different aperture that they are. Hence, that was not incorrect. And now you’re arguing for what?
I never said DOF is the same. And if you are referring to what Lotus responded with, you can look at what the response was too. Now I admitted I was wrong, and I never insulted you (I never actually responded to you), but you’re asking people if they are retarded. Hypocrisy at it’s finest. Now you can stfu.
Should I not admit I’m wrong and just keep spewing bullshit as you say?
Watch this and you know why we people without understanding of optics think this way.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f5zN6NVx-hY
And because there are more experts out with better understanding, look in youtube for “tony northrup crop factor” and you find 4 more videos explaing the physics for experts.
Well, I stand corrected. Thanks! Although, you could never get the same compression with the same framing.
As I said:
25mm / f2 on APS-C behaves exactly like a
37.5mm / f3 on FF
Same compression, same FoV, same framing, same DOF. Only difference is sensor-ISO.
Diffraction is also different in favour of the fullframe camera
As long as the perspective (where you are standing) and angle of view (focal length multiplied by crop factor) is the same, the compression will be IDENTICAL.
Compression is a function of perspective and angle of view.
When standing in the same position, if you take a shot at 37.5mm on full frame and compare it to a shot taken at 25mm on APS-C, they will be identical in terms of perspective, angle of view and compression.
DOF will obviously be shallower on the FF 37.5mm shot at equal apertures, but that’s not what we’re talking about.
What else is there other than FOV?!
Light gathering is the same, DOF is better.
It is 37.5mm on APS-C.
How is the DOF “better”? What does that even mean…
It means I can have the whole face in focus and not just the tip of the nose!
DOF is too thin on FF to be practical for everyday shooting of people.
Even 1.4 on APS-C is almost too thin.
On the other hand you can’t separate object and background as good as on FF.
Are you retarded?
then you are mentally challenged..
You can’t even grab the basic concept of “question”, hum?
Not a problem. I only posted the comment to let you know that everybody is aware of your retardation. You’re welcome.
The lens would be pretty useless when attached to a Merc.
But we already have a superb 24/1.8 Zeiss for the A6000, which is already available, smaller, lighter and cheaper – but still one of the best wide angle lenses available. No need for the 25/1.5 on APS-C IMO.
wonderful, but I am really sad these lenses without physical aperture ring!!
And also no real MF, I really hate the focus by wire on my sony 55! 🙁
What do you think, in these lenses the focus by wire will be better, closer feeling to the real MF?
+1 on the aperture ring. But for manual focus, there’s the Loxia lineup. I hope they do an 85mm Loxia too. And a 135mm f/2
I don’t care much for aperture on lens, but manual focusing on focus-by-wire lenses IS a pain in the….
yeah, that’s why I am curious about, maybe these Batis lenses focus by wire are more useful than on the sony fe lines!
YESSSSS. The aperture ring I don’t care about but focus by wire has been terrible on pretty much every lens ive tried.
If, AT LEAST, they would give us ANY indication whether we are focusing closer or further…. but no! You have to keep focusing one way until you realise you should turn the ring the OTHER way.
can’t wait to skip them both waiting for zooms 🙂
We believed Sony would make an 85/1.8 (maybe Zeiss-badged) lens but got a Zeiss 85/1.8. I get the feeling Sony and Zeiss must talk to each other to avoid releasing lenses with same specifications.
Sony FE 55 1.8, Loxia 50 f2
Maybe the Sony Z badged will be a Leica-like 90mm, with decidedly non-Leica, fast auto focus. Hopefully not a 75mm
Different focal length and aperture, and most important of all, one has AF and the other is manual focus only. The same can be said about Loxia 35 only sharing the same focal length with the Sony lenses.
maybe the Sony one is a FE 135mm Zeiss
Maybe there’s no Sony 85/1.8Z? Why would they announce one right after they announced the 90/2.8G?
But probably they just don’t talk to each other about their lens releases other than their cooperations. It even seams that inside Sony they don’t talk to each other. Otherwise I can’t explain why we see so many ±35mm primes but lack so many other areas with no coverage at the same time.
What is an oled on a lens?
Well, I did find some stuff on OLED’s:
“In addition, lifetimes for OLED materials being developed by Cambridge Display Technology, Eastman Kodak Company, Idemitsu Kosan, Novaled, Universal Display and others have lifetimes 2-3 times greater than typical LCDs”
That’s encouraging and same article says many have 50k hours of expected life in them. And about usage in daylight:
“OLED displays, using specially designed polarizers have been specially designed to attain daylight readability in bright sunshine, but by comparison to LCDs, retain their color
and contrast performance.”
Color obviously- N/A. Still, I’d prefer it off the lens and just simply have it read out on a top deck LCD screen or back of the camera. I retract my statement regarding lifespan though. 50k hours should be good, just don’t fall asleep with your lens on for months at a time.
http://www.oled-a.org/images/pdfs/OLED%20Myths.pdf
When the first Nikon F3’s hit the stores (early 1980’s) we heard the same concerns about its LCD display VF, but they’re still going today “if you can source the film.” LOL
I am not sure if OLED is good or bad. This is not my major concern. Current top of the line lenses have a mechanical scale under a glass element – causing additional weight and production cost. Maybe OLED is cheaper and more lightweight and consumes less battery life as feared. A running OS e.g. consumes multiple times more battery power.
Well, ATM the best would have been to use Ink Screen, lower power consumption, can show the same as OLED (for that use, monochrome as the OLED of thoses lenses)
Better than LCD/OLED
And maybe a longer expected life.
The 85/1.8 is 10mm longer (but 100g less weight) than the full A mount 85/1.4 😀 Something is definitely wrong with his mount.
I hear what you are saying, but if this was true we would not have 10mm longer lens but ~25mm because that how long is LA-EA adapter. So it’s native lens, it is longer because the lens is to close to the sensor edges. We need to wait for a curved sensors with really small lenses.
All the time Zeiss claimed to have better IQ if there is no OS inside lens:
Loxia: FF, e-mount, (no AF, no OS)
Touit: APS-C, e-mount, AF, (no OS)
Having no OS on a body without IBIS is not so good – so the Zeiss lenses were maybe not the best choice. Then there was A7ii – and we all knew: Okay – we get IBIS in future bodies – it is okay when the lens has no OS. Sooner or later we all will use IBIS bodies.
Batis: FF, e-mount, AF, OS
Why today of all days, Zeiss starts to implement OS in lenses right now ???
Zeiss: pleeease give us just fast FF-e-mount AF lenses, and omit OS in order to reduce size and weight as good as possible.
OSS is always a better way than IBIS, sensor has limited moving space inside the camera, ie. 1mm while there are no limit for OSS.
OSS has no limited moving space for the respective moving elements inside the lens? Interesting…
Guess I’m old fashioned. Dang, better go buy myself some suspenders.
NOoooo!! I want MANUAL, LIGHT, SMALL and with APERTURE RING lenses like the LOXIA 50mm! Not this! Please give us the same but in the Loxia lineup! Loxia is the Zeiss signature not this AF, OS BullS***.
just a display to read the focal length. I can see this useful for Astrophography, but not sure if illl ever care. Who knows.
Actually on these lenses it is a display to tell you the focus distance, not focal length, as they are fixed focal length lenses.
woops my bad, thank you.
A77 M2 review in dpreview right now posted.
dont you normally have to turn off OS when using IBIS? Vice versa.
different focal lengths obviously.
No, I meant that because the article says the “first autofocusing full frame Zeiss lens”. That 35mm/1.4 predates these two and it does AF already.
Happy that we are not April 1st ! 😀
Let’s vote for Loxia with manual focus or Batis with AF
I vote Batis 😉
Batis!
Batis
Batis?
Batis
Size: Loxia
AF: Batis
OS: Loxia
that minimum focus distance on the 85 is abysmal! 2.62467 feet? thats it? how am i supposed to take close up portraits of my cat and do her magnificence TRUE justice??
2.623999 would be acceptable but not 2.62467. XD But there is a workaround, a small extension tube.
i know! its preposterous! disgusting!
Haha – it’s obviously a german company. Converting into cm I get 79.99999414. Why didn’t they go to 80 cm ?!?!?!?
Two different lenses, design for two different mounts have slightly different weights and dimensions. What’s the mystery here?
The mystery is why the slower lens in E-Mount is longer than a faster lens in A-Mount. As if it was intentionally designed for a DSLR and then extended into mirrorless.
Mirrorless doesn’t get to play any magical length reduction card with tele lenses – slightly the opposite in fact – only with wide-normal lenses that don’t have to be (as) retrofocal as on DSLRs. The A-mount lens is also extending focus design which tends to be shorter when “collapsed” than internal focus lenses.
Aperture doesn’t affect length but diameter – which admittedly is also similar, but the SAL doesn’t have OSS or even AF motors since it’s screw driven both of which add to that.
You don’t say!? 😉
I meant to say: E mount has very capable and small bodies. But the lenses turn out to be bigger than their respected counter A mount part. I know why that is but it is still not optimal, IMO. I’d liked a small, light travel system. But it turns out that the smaller and lighter body’s advantages don’t play a role when you consider the whole system/backpack.
The A7m2 is ±2cm small in all dimensions and 200g lighter than a A99 but the high quality lenses are bigger and heavier – and you need to carry more lenses with you because there’re no/few good zooms for E mount and need to stick to primes more often.
Two cameras used in the video, A7 II and A7R
Plastic? Please don’t tell me it’s plastic at this price point.
PLASTIC FANTASTIC
What would you want ? Steel ? Plastic is the best material for lenses.
What you’ve never heard of aluminum alloy? Titanium is good too not actually that expensive.
Unobtainium is the best material but very difficult to get a hold of.
I’m serious, only by using titanium could we get cheap titanium, you do know how expensive aluminum was a century or two ago?
I’m turn between the 90mm and the Zeiss 85mm… Choices choices
Obviously it won’t be OSS, but it might be 5-Axis IBIS. We will have to wait and see.
That not true.
Looking to m4/3 you have Olympus with IBIS and Panasonic with Lens-OIS. Go to reviews/forums and you will see IBIS does a better job, overall.
A7ii with Zeiss 55mm and IBIS performed better than with Zeiss 24-70 (Lens-OS only, IBIS off). (source: DPReview)
If you are using Super-tele lenses, say 250mm and longer, then I agree lens OS can have remarkable advantages – and for those super-teles I would prefer Lens OS, too. But for all other lenses (wideangle, normal, 24-70 always on) I prefer IBIS only.
I have both cameras and lenses. When using a OSS lenses on a7ii you get stabilized liveview, when using IBIS only you have none. You can’t use IBIS only if you put an OSS lens on A7ii, it always use the OSS (3-axis) if you turn “steady shot” on. And OSS does most of the work. And no, I don’t think IBIS only for non-OSS lens gives better stable result than an OSS lens, not on the A7ii.
IBIS and liveview:
I thought this firmware-update did something in that direction:http://www.dpreview.com/articles/9214399472/sony-issues-firmware-1-10-for-alpha-7-ii
Some people stated that this firmware update did some other improvents about overall IBIS-quality on A7ii – but I think there is no confirmed lab-test.
Do you have this V1.10 installed?
If yes – what exactly was the improvement with your experience?
thanks
I miss one important fact: is the 25 a Biogon. A Distagon,…?
The 25 is a Distagon, the 85 a Sonnar.
What das that “Distagon” “Sonnar” “Planar” mean at all?
You’ll find plenty of article mostly for Sonnar and Planar. Mainly lens design.
The old one is a Sony-Zeiss, this is a Zeiss. The first is built and designed by Sony with Zeiss QA and input. The second is Zeiss design and QA built for Zeiss.
All that is left is the 135mm. I’d like to personally thank my 135mm for holding down the A mount fort for so long. The last standing soldier fending off the advances of future mirror less technology. You’ve dug yourself deep into the trenches. When others quite you stuck it out. You’re a gentlemen and a scholar. Soon, you will be able to wipe the sweat of you’re brow and take a bow. YOU WILL NOT BE FORGOTTEN! (wipes a tear from his eye).
Absolutely agree to 135mm (at f2 max).
Baxia?
Oh I just think its because this is the first non Sony department zeiss that made this lens. Usually Sony has a hand in it, but I think this one is all Zeiss.
I really appreciate the two Batis coming.
But I have a fantastic 24mm, and I will go for the 90 macro.
Guess I will skip the 25, but will take a look onto the 85.
1,3 stop advantage is much, and if the bokeh would also be better, then I might consider a buy.
I’m in the same boat but I’m leaning towards the 90mm macro over the Zeiss 85mm because the macro will serve to functions (true 1:1 macro and portrait lens while the latter will just be a portrait lens).
I’m also surprised that the lenses are so close in price…
I will place them in a case with my Zeiss Master Cine Prime set, just so I can label the case – Master Batis
That’s just the laugh I needed at the end of a nasty workday. Customer asks if he can take a picture of my picture rather than buy it.
thanks
Tomorrow a big day folks. Better get to bed early for all those sweet announcements coming your way.
It makes no difference, last i heard was that Loxia is focus by wire so we might as well get used to the af. Focus by wire is my biggest pet peeve
The e mount with adapters can take many lenses.
Act 1: Rumor is announced about ‘Whatever’, and people argue about what they think it will be with some declaring it as the salvation of ‘Whatever’ while others scream that it will be the apocalypse that destroys ‘Whatever’.
Act 2: ‘Whatever’ is announced and the rants continue with some hailing the breakthrough as the salvation. Meanwhile others claim that ‘whatever sucked.
Act 3: While debating ‘Whatever’ many useless side arguments such the repeated arguments over Depth of Field, Compression, aperture rings, Focus by wire, OS, and now the OLED.
Act 4: Wash, Rinse, Repeat…until the next “whatever comes along”.
Canon 85 1.2 is focus-by-wire?
Can someone explain the First FF Zeiss with AF? I thought all my A mount Zeiss glass was FF??
Actually you don’t have Zeiss lenses for A mount but Sony lenses with a Zeiss badge. Zeiss only has the Noxia (FF, MF) and Touit (APS-C, AF) brands for E mount.
That makes no sense. Why would Zeiss would their badge on a Sony lens for the sake of it?
The Sony CZ lenses are designed by zeiss and manufactured by Sony to Zeiss specifications, whereas these are the first AF lenses designed and manufactured by zeiss exclusively.
But the 90mm is huge (4cm longer) but similar weighted. And F1.8 can make a difference in portrait photography. There might be some more differences in micro-rendering (“Zeiss Pop”) too.
As I don’t care much about macro photography, I’ll go for the 85/1.8.
In the future I’d appreciate if we could all just agree on the 1 piece silver spacesuit with the V stripe and 77mm filter mounts.
damn, i want some “baits”
but im already going with the macro 90mm so the bait 85mm kind of overlap
same with the 28mm and the bait 25mm
by the way i wont hesitate to get a bait 135mm (with a f2 at least of course)
the FE line up its getting pretty good and we dont even know anything about the 5 lenses sony will announce by year end
great job sony!