I guess many of you will be curious what you can achieve with a camera having a Sony 50 Megapixel 44x33mm medium format sensor. These are the first full size image samples taken with the Pentax 645Z. Specs and preorders can be read/taken at BHphoto (Click here) and Adorama (Click here).
Full Size (ISO 200): http://www.ricoh-imaging.co.uk/media/0593b9a5f1c1f90178d4a445f484a8a1/forPrintOnly_IMGP2229_m.jpg
Full Size (ISO 200): http://www.ricoh-imaging.co.uk/media/b5f7adcff2681a2fe012dd1033b88250/forPrintOnly_IMGP0865_m.jpg
Full Size (ISO 400): http://www.ricoh-imaging.co.uk/media/4ea64818eccfb3c6020f7655bc0b4231/forUnderA3size__IMGP0426.jpg
Full Size (ISO 400): http://www.ricoh-imaging.co.uk/media/c639d7b647213ef6649afb5df5a6685b/forUnderA3size__IMGP0190.jpg
Full Size (ISO 1600): http://www.ricoh-imaging.co.uk/media/d941a0d7bc63895434b4b575933c0ad7/forUnderA3size__IMGP0144.jpg
Full Size (ISO 600): http://www.ricoh-imaging.co.uk/media/b7fa91bef690590db1163f43810e8b07/forUnderA3size__IMGP0001.jpg
Full Size (ISO 800): http://www.ricoh-imaging.co.uk/media/f275220f29cf1ed805e6686cd0963632/forUnderA3size__IMGP0034.jpg
Full Size (ISO 6400): http://www.ricoh-imaging.co.uk/media/1b72b9fc196770e6591d35a6b96878a6/forUnderA3size__IMGP2382.jpg
Great detail! Although it’s hard to judge how much more quality you get compared with a Sony A7r.
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Whats the big deal, I could only zoom into see individual molecules in these photos. Everyone knows that atoms make up molecules and then they are made up of quarks and so on. I would say these are incomplete photos missing some details base on my knowledge of the subject.
Did you take the red pill or the blue pill 😉
Sounds like he is possibly making fun of my quest for higher resolution.
you aren’t the only one who wants higher resolution. I would love 50+ mp
Sony bases dicisions on new products on market demand and they read SAR.
Many sar posters holler for low res while those who want high res remain silent.
If you want high res speak up and keep speaking up.
They don’t read SAR. They read the Financial Times and Big Boobs.
I read Big Boobs too! I must get a job at Sony then, going to be my dream job 🙂
And what did it say about wbat future cameras people want.
Duh!! for “big boobs” really “big boobs” high res, 3d is the only choice worth considering
Panorama’s Frank. Panorama’s are the future of “big boobs.” Just boobs as far as the eye can see!
I have been told directly by numerous sony reps from mid level to management that the forums and rumor sites are required reading.
They also tell me sar is the best rumor site.
You say they do not read sar.
What do you base that opinion on.
I highly doubt that. If this were the case, where are the FW updates for the real cameras? Do we ever get to see uncompressed RAW option for the A7 series cams? How about a compact versatile flash for the A7 series? I think it is highly unlikely.
You doudt everything.
New cameras with improved jpg engine have new bionz x processor..obviosly ths a77 software update people ask for would not work.
They also cjanged the hotshoe because most people do not like the special sony hotshoe.
Sony listens to what people want , determines what will sell, determines what it will cost to produce..and what it would sell for , consider again if people will by it.
Then yhey determine which products they will produce and cjanges thier minds several times in yhe process.
Your needs and opinions matter..but this is not a democracy..it is a business.
You get heard..you dont get to vote.
I have to say as an early adopter of the D800/D800e and now the A7r . I am hoping for a worthwhile increase in MP count in the next gen mFT is at a pixel density that would be 61mp on FF. The RX10 with its 20mp sensor is a FF pixel density of 148mp there is a lot of room for movement
Apparently sony is not planing to increase resolution much to bayer sensors.
The first stacked sensor will be the ff 54mp in early tomid 2015.
After that increasing pixel count will be easy as stacked sensors are capable of much higher res then bayer.
Hasselblad has a proprietary system to get 200mp out of a 50mp bayer sensor.
The camera takes 6 exposures each one moving the sensor to a slightly different position.
Basically this precise sensor movement simulates the effect of a stacked sensor and produces a 200mp picture from a 50mp bayer sensor.
This was used on some previous cameras..I dont know if they plan to incorporate it into thier new camera.
Don’t be silly, high res has it’s place
Both. Life is short to miss on things.
The red, but later got a phone call saying I should have chosen blue. I’m now making the best of it, as… I hear there are more ways than one to throw a dead cat around.
Bad call bud, red pill’s got bad shutter shake and light leaks.
Yick. Noise performance isnt very good for a MF sensor…
Sony 51.4MP CMOS Sensor is in other league compared to CCD like all known MF camears used to have. It has about the same ISO / Noise parametres as CMOS FF cameras have today.
What gets me is that Pentax lens with no shutter is on par with hassie lens with leaf shutter for a good number of their lenses.
what do you mean?
what do you mean what do I mean? Hassie lens has a leaf shutter in the lens not the camera. those german and japanese leaf shutters ore EXPENSIVE. LIke $500 each when bought in bulk. Pentax doesn’t have a shutter but its D lens (only 1 :-/) is nearly $5k for a 90mm f2.8 macro. My 80mmF2.8 D mamiya lens is $1500 and crazy crazy sharp. Their other lenses I don’t know if they are tele-centric or not (d) lenses to know if the cost is comparable to other D lenses. They are more inline with mamiya D lenses.
ok, now i see that it’s the price you’re talking about – wasn’t so obvious from the first comment or i’m way too stuffed with curry and all remaining energy was moved from powering brain to stomach 🙂
speaking of shutters… now that copal stopped production I’d like to know how many spare parts are there in the wild
How is it related to CCD versus CMOS noise at high ISO?
How is it related to CCD versus CMOS noise at high ISO?
umm before this medium format sensors basically worked at their standard iso only. Soo this is crazy low noise in comparison. As for it being better or worse then a7r well This can print a much bigger print period.
Never used a tripod, right?
$8500 is just crazy cheap compared to the compition. I mean you could by this and all the pentax lenses for what the phase one and hassie cost just for the backs. I would consider selling my mamiya 645 and leaf back and getting that thing.
44x33cm medium format sensor. I believe, you meant millimeters?
Nope, this is the new Huge Format sensor design.
Welcome to pentaxrumors.com
You know, here we are interested about SOny tech development. And I think many here will love ot know how good the new Sony sensor MF is. And there is also a rumor abotu a RX camera having the same sensor. So before to make any irony you may simply ask us why we write about that sensor 🙂
Too many people come to a rumor site and try to tell people what not to say.
People want to know what may happen in the future then cimplain because it may not happen.
Other people post contrversal opinions and are deluged with people saying dont say that.
This makes Admins job harder. I am tempted sometimes to say people should not say those kind of things..but then I think that would make me as bad as them and dont.
Some people are unable to choose what they read, so they expect you to protect them from themselves. It’s only normal.
Sony providing sensor is one bit, the processing is another – that’s why you never really get the same results from the same sensor used by different manufactures 😉
This might be worth watching: http://www.luminous-landscape.com/reviews/cameras/iq250_back_announced.shtml
We are reasonably certain that in 2015 Sony will introduce a 54mp stacked ff sensor for mirrorless A mount and probably at some point for E mount..not necessarily in that order..
Seems to me the IQ of this sensor will exceed anything available on mf.
Of course mf will probably produce better cameras than they now have.
I have to wonder about the future of mf and if it will serve any future function other than making the user look more profesional?
It will help create jobs for osteopaths and bring additional income to airlines.
I’m sure you know that MF sensors aren’t just about the resolution, also the size. The size of the sensor doesn’t make the user just look more professional, it renders more depth and dimensionality than a smaller sensor ever can (without stitching multiple exposures)
You know, minus the fact that the sensor is still bigger and still will produce more detailed images, period.
“… reasonably certain …”
IF – Sony is not currently tied to various non-competition clauses, as it likely was following the release of d800/600…
There are agreements in place. Therefore in early to mid 2015 Sony will release a 54mp ff stacked sensor camera. This same sensor will appear at about the same time in nikon and other cameras.
Canon anounced in 2010 that they developed a 120mp H size bayer type sensor. This will be released at the same time or shortly after the sony release.
All manufacturers will be releasing a next generation sensor at about the same time.
loading pics…
I think I’ll make a cup of coffee in the meantime…
me too lol
lol, loading the pics from the full-size link below…zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz……….
Umm.. I don’t know if it’s the noise reduction on the jpg, but the images look really soft.
The D800e definitely has more resolving power. What exactly is the benefit of getting a medium format camera over a D800e if it’s no better? we’ll have to wait to see raw files to see. I hate this hyper noise reduction trend. I’d rather have grain.
might be also JPEG compression, those winter ones lack the ‘bite’ I’m seeing in MF captures normally
Well once you 28% enlargment. Yeah that won’t matter a whole lot. But you still have to enlarge 28% to match print size. If you aren’t printing then why would you need 50MP anyway.
I want to use it to make animated gifs!
Well then you should use my wisner tech 8×10 and a creo drum scanner.
Pentax medium format lenses are always been on the soft side. Also the way Pentax process images, even with their previous MF sensor, has been not been on par with Phase, Hasselblad or Leica for example.
When you will see some images made from one of the system above, you will see the D800 and A7r blown out of the water.
not that there was or is any doubt recently, Sony does make the best sensors, period. I would have killed for this camera a couple years ago. Today, I am quite happy with the A7r, it meets and mostly exceeds the pixel count I need, still, kudos to Pentax for bringing this camera to the market, I loved shooting with the film version. I would love for Sony to bring a Mamiya 6 or 7 type camera with this sensor to the market.
Me too! The rumored RX2, possibly ?
The higher iso images aren’t full sized :/ these image sizes are 6000×4500 but it’s still nice to see them, at 6400 ISO the image is rather quite clean.
i almost forgot about the rumoured medium format RX camera!! if it has the high amounts of details like this plus a super sharp zeiss lens it will be one amazing camera! plus a fixed lens may have a significantly smaller size 😀 i wouldn’t get one but i’d be really excited to see results from it
I’ve found full size sample on Flickr:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/96801808@N06/sets/72157644010798585/with/13876967223/
That’s about half the size, only 27MP
You’re right…
These ones are at 51MP:
http://www.ricoh-imaging.co.jp/english/products/645z/ex/
from what I see, there is no reason to be excited. Get a A7 and a ticket for somewhere and make you a month huge days.
Anybody care to lend me the price of the body plus a bit more for a lens or two? ;^)
These aren’t the first. The Japanese Pentax mini site for the 645Z had several already.
exactly how large are the raw files and just how fast of a computer do you need to be able to edit them.
nop, I’ll wait mamiya-7-like big sensor digital camera to substitute my a7r.
Mirrorless .
for me MF digital is all about low ISO high res files { landscape architecture studio etc} . Will the new Sony CMOS really compete with the likes of the 80mp sensor in the Phase 180 at low ISO,
it seems when a99 MKII arrives, 2470/2.8 ZA will have a chance to upgrade as well……
a mount is dead.
seems not now, by current FE lens.
Yeah spend 3x more for a marginally better squeakier toy
This is photography – it’s all about exponential price increases vs marginal returns.
Do your really think the 500 F4 is 12 times better than the 70-400GII? Or that the 70-400GII is twice as good at the Sigma 150-500? No, they’re not.
It’s the game we all play.
Which one?
Oh stop it already, that won’t make Sony attend to pleasing you personally. You have Sony camera’s and lenses and now scared and hoping someone will dispel your fears. Well well, A-Mount is Alive! and well and on a normal update schedule similar to the CaNikons. We already have everything we need for A-Mount lenses, so stop it already and let them finish their surge with E-Mount in peace.
LOL.
Love the humor where someone flogs a dead horse until it’s just a red stain.
The A77II, and SAL1650II are about to resurrect it Biach!!!
WOW amazing. -.- another minor “update”. how long has been since the last real a mount lens?
and really, with an A99 for that price who will want one? piece of shit outdated system.
and the new system that could be great is also crap because doesn’t have enough lenses.
sony strategy is retarded.
Can we get a “small update” on the ZA85 and ZA135…
CONVERT TO SSM as so many have been begging for years now!
Crikey Sony! You know how bad it sucks not having all ZA’s matching performance and feel?
It’s time to fix it Sony.
And weather-seal both of them, because some of us shoot outdoors in less than idea conditions.
Am I missing something here tho? The a77 is apsc right? Isn’t the 16-50 a FF lens? What’s the purpose of these being related if it’s not taking advantage of the proper size?
“Isn’t the 16-50 a FF lens”.
Nope.
You’re thinking of the Zeiss 16-80 lens. That is FF.
The Zeiss 16-80 and 16-50 are APS-C. ..
eret,
Go get some Coffee, and report back here later.
oops.
Coffee it is.
Nooo!! I just bought a 16-50/2.8 a month ago!! Can we have an USB dock to update the lens like SIgma does? 🙂
Yeah, lets do that. You find the place to plug it in.
I doubt the update has anything to do with software/firmware. They probably changed the lens design or grouping. Not something you can do with a USB dock.
I know 🙁 Let me dream a little…
Sony already sells USB docks to update their lenses firmware, but unfortunately their docks have a complete camera for some reason attached to them.
I like megapixels.
Admin.
This is not me. I did not do this.
Someone is pretending to be me.
My name is Jerry. Not Barry.
Do you like Megapixels too?
I mean Harry…
Jesus, I’m so flustered with all these impostors today!
I’m Jerry, not Harry.
??
Confused.
Where’s Larry?
Right here.
this is getting ridiculous… please stop, or I will report you.
Agree with you. Why do they choose this board as their immature jousting forum?
I hate having to scroll through totally worthless posts…
What just happened here? All the posts by “Poke” just changed to “Animalsby…” names…
Admin?
D:
Who cares….
I think a troll is trolling a troll….
wow.
Jerry or whatever your name is
I do not appreciate people impersonating me.
Please stop.
Admin.
This was not me.
Someone has hijacked my account.
Please stop this.
Which is the actual Barry? I’m confused.
I am not impersonating anyone. I am Jerry, and I paint wildlife: http://www.thunderart.com/artist/originals_jg2.htm
Those are kind of weak if I say so myself. The paintings don’t look very hi-res, you must not care about megapixels.
They’re not high resolution. But I like your humor. lol.
Ha Ha Ha !!!
When is the 108mp quintuple stacked mega-mount camera being launched Admin? I hear it photon capturing device is 700% more efficient than the previous version?
It’s actually 109mp.
Its called a Barry Array.
Wait, I replied to Poke, not AnimalsBySherri.
Why U changing your name?
We will never stop!
yep
Consider it a form of flattery.
I don’t think that’s what’s going on here…lol.
or not
I wonder if the back screen will be OLED. Not necessary, but I wonder. the Trublack is still amazing and good enough.
so where is the “trimmed for speed” part while it is 11fps?
Thats much faster…the a77 is 10fps
Damn. One frame per SECOND faster. Much faster.
BTW, the A77 is 12 FPS.
12FPS in Jpeg auto mode… 10FPS in normal modes
Speed is not always a fps measurement. It may be a greatly improved AF system, larger buffer or faster processing speed to allowed continual shooting rather than waiting around to clear the buffer to take another shot. If the 77 is anything like the 99, then pumping up the processing speed will help immensely. The 99 has a sluggish response time.
The A6000 does 11fps and 21 RAWs doesn’t it? So expect the same improvement for the A77.
From 12fps to 11fps and from a 2.4MP EVF to a 1.4MP EVF (my guess).
Hard to sell as upgrades on paper, which is what sells cameras too. But I’ll acknowledge that numbers alone can be deceiving.
If they down res the EVF, that alone will cause the camera to be a sales failure.
yes the a6000 was a huge sales failure, that´s why you can´t get one anywhere.
Played with the A6000 (friends copy) and the EVF I find rather poor compared to our A77…
I also was stunned (as was he) to find out there does not seem to be any internal microphone with the camera??? you can video’s and they are completely silent… also still no GPS from Sony which we already know but come on Sony put a GPS in the NEX range and have it disabled by default if battery life is the concern!… It’s a perfect travel camera and one that would benefit greatly with GPS features!
At times it’s very sad that removed features are not mentioned (similar to Sony removing tether support from the A77)… Untill you purchase the camera you just expect it to be included as the previous generations all had it as do the competition (considered standard features one would think)…
Sony has done some silly things I just hope they stop removing some of the basic features and continue to enhance and build on the new features like the A6000 wifi capabilities, remote support, pancake lenses..etc..etc.. those are all getting allot better which is really great to see!
While they may put the A6000 EVF in it, I would guess that they will improve the A77 one. There are mixed reports on whether the A99 EVF is identical to the A77 one, with some saying that it has a better contrast ratio. Obviously being full frame it gets more light too, but it isn’t just that apparently.
However Sony are well known for releasing later bodies and cutting costs.
IIRC, Sony even stated that the A99 EVF had some small improvements, as does the A7R/A7. And the A7S again has an improved version (contrast) according to Sony.
Depends if Sony reserve their better EVF for the full frame lot then and give the A77 the A6000 one. I want to be wrong but I wouldn’t be surprised at all.
What is the point of having the fastest autofocus and being unable to track the subject the way it should. I have been shooting sports with an A77 and A99 using SSM and HSM lenses, only getting 1 out of 3 or 4 images in focus. It is not the speed, is the tracking what Sony needs to improve.
You could always spend an extra 4 to 5 thousand dollars for a top notch Canon or Nikon and get 2 out of 4 images in focus.
The name here used to be “Poke” now it is “Dodge?”
Now we know who Dodge is.
It may have been an error. I’m still poke but did not respond here. As far as I know dodge was never poke. But I have been entering as guest since I have had a hard time signing into to other required groups
You know, back in the ol’ days we didnt have autofocus, and yet we managed to get plenty of in focus birds in flight and race cars and such.
Your camera has a focus ring and direct manual focus for a reason. You’re just being lazy.
Back in the old days pictures were made to last….we chiseled them into stone.
Tracking only works with a few special lenses on a99 and not at all on a77.
The newer af systems claim to be better but I do not know how well they actually track.
E mount is ONLY fully compatable with native E mount lenses and nothing else will use the fast focus capability of the new E mount cameras.
Back in the old days we ha charcoal and cave walls.
Manual focus is the real champ of fast action sports. I never believed it until I tried it. Even the best AF can’t guarantee a shot. Pic a spot, get your DOF right and wait for the passing. Your limited but your shots are always f’in awesome.
try photographing surf. good luck with that.
Its called skill. You get it from practice.
I’ve successfully shot surf photos in Oz with the 500 Reflex on manual focus. It took me a long time to develop the skill.
I can recall a time when being able to focus quickly and accurately was one of the most important assets for a sports photographer, now it’s spray and pray and if the results aren’t prefect you blame the camera.
steadicam called. they want to hire you.
that’s not manual focus, that’s fix-focus. 🙂
If you are getting a 25% hit rate from the A99 with an SSM lens then you are doing it wrong. That’s a technique problem, not a camera problem!
Do you have an A99?
Have you tried something like a D3s or a 1DIV?
Have you compared them in person? (Not by internet reviews)
I don’t see the relevance of the D3s/1DIV, it is the A99 you clearly don’t know how to use as your hit rate is crap!
You are somewhat correct. Your hit rate sounds a bit exaggerated. The Sony focus system is not as good as canon. That is for sure. I have the 99 locked in on a subject and right at shutter release the focus heads south. But the 99 is way better than the850/900.
I own the A850, A99, and A77, and I seem to consistently be able to get at least two thirds to three quarters of my of my shots, even when using my ancient/semi-fossilized Minolta 300mm f/2.8 APO. It sounds like something is wrong with either the camera or the users lens selection.
What lenses are you using, and what sports are you photographing? We need more detail.
Ok, this is how I noticed the auto focus work on the 3 cameras I mention before.
The A99 while tracking a subject, you can see in the first instance it focused spot on. After that you can see the subject becoming out of focus and the camera still consider it as in focus, you keep tracking and for what it should be the 3er shot, it is even more out of focus. Finally, for the 4th shot the camera tells the lens to re- focus. The way a see it, makes me believe that the parameter of the focusing system of the Sony’s bodies is wader or less sensitive.
On the other hand, the D3s and 1DIV the autofocus system react quicker to any change of distance of the moving subject. Actually, my short time testing the other two cameras my hit rate was the inverse, for every 4 only 1 out of focus. It was not perfect ether and I am ok with that. (Nothing is perfect)
What really bothers me is that the old DSLR mechanism, the autofocus system has to deal with the mirror blackout during the exposure and the autofocus sensor is completely blind. And then it only have a fraction of a second to re-focus and prepare the next exposure, while the Sony’s SLT design does not suffer mirror blackout, but, lags behind the other two companies using an older design.
I do photograph almost any sport, but the sports where I get these problems is when the subject is moving toward you, ether right on or diagonally.
For sport I own:
Sony 70-200g (on the A77 and A99)
Sigma 50-150 APO II (on the A77)
and I have tried the Sony 70-300g with better hit rate because of the slow aperture.
Other lenses:
16-35za
24-70za
DT 35 1.8
DT 16-50 2.8
I am also a photojournalist for a local paper (and yes, they still exist). In this regards the Pros of the Sony SLT system out weight the Cons by a mile and the reason why I still use the system. It is just the focus tracking thing that I am not happy about, everything else, more than satisfies.
Well, their price is 2-3x the cost of the A99, so it’s not really a fair comparison :).
You are comparing the A99 with cameras that cost three times the Money at launch. There is a reason why a D4 is so expensive.
The A99’s autofocus coverage is miserably small, though. To the point one questions if the engineers who developed it ever actually used it to take photographs.
Have mixed feelings about the A77II and suspect it to be only minor tweaks to an already good camera. But with the camera market being what it currently is, the idea of having anything less than a full frame sensor in a full size camera seem retrograde. The A7 street price will likely be a few hundred dollars more, and well worth it.
I think we’re all going to be let down on the first of May when Sony releases the A7z with a 54mp BarryArray, and matching ground effects.
🙂
Huh?
RE: the BarryArray and matching ground effects.
Make it a77z Im invested in A mount
No one is “Invested” in A-mount.
That’s like investing in VHS tapes.
Investing in mirror-less is like buying a Wii U, Mini-Disc, Laser Disc, HD-DVD, Super Audio CD or Pet Rock. Once the novelty is worn off people will go back to their real cameras.
Huh? I doubt that. SLRs were a necessarity to view through the lens over a hundred years ago. Today the flappy mirror is simply not needed anymore, it is obsolete, so get rid of it. Saying “only huge cameras are real cameras” is b*llshit as well. Just try to match the Quality of a RX1 or a A7S with Zeiss 55 F1.8 FE lens with ANY DSLR these days. If you can match it you will at least pay a whole lot more (e.g. Nikon D4S with Zeiss Otus 55 F1.4, but you’ll lose autofocuse and pay 3x the Price).
It’s Sony, right? You mean Betamax.
I heard the BarryArray sensor will have honey combed individually concaved pixel elements. This is an exciting time for photography. Oh and the United States Military, was evidently investigating it because it appears to break the laws of physics in getting so many MPix onto an APS-C sided sensor. Amazing what can be developed if you just keep striving for it!
Rumor has it that 8th wonder of the world can bend time, and space. It may also have an Sony’s advance world peace feature that most people will likely ignore.
There are plenty of reasons to put a APS-C into a dSLR. If that doesn’t suit you then good for you, get a full frame. If you don’t understand the benefits of APS-C, then you should do.
My first DSLR was APS-C and it was a fine camera, my full
frame camera out performs is in every way. Granted there are a few situations
where a smaller sensor is an attribute but relatively few. There are plenty of
compact cameras sporting APS-C sensors, a modern full sized camera should be
without exception full frame. If you don’t understand the benefits of a full
frame sensor then you should use one and learn about it.
“my full frame camera out performs is in every way”
No it doesn’t and that’s the point. You even went on to contradict yourself by going on to say in the very next sentence “Granted there are a few situations where a smaller sensor is an attribute but relatively few”.
Classic, you can’t make this stuff up!
APS-C cameras really shine in macro photography, and used in conjunction with large telephoto zoom or prime lenses like the 70400, 70300, 500f40. Should I keep going or do you get the point Dodge.
Every serious Alpha photographer should have both.
The APS-C DSLR market is 10x larger than the Full Frame market.
Full frame DSLR like mirror-less, isn’t a large portion of the interchangeable lens camera market. The APS-C DSLRs are very capable, and the difference between a high-end semi-pro/professional APS-C DSLR, and entry level full frame is marginal at best.
Full frame sensors are very expensive to manufacture, and their production costs won’t fall anytime soon.
So
They are not that much more expensive to manufacture, but the full-frame-capable lenses are of course, since you need much more glass, etc.
The update probably is so small that you need a macro lens to see it.
Sony only has one macro lens. Interesting.
Four actually 30mm, 50mm, 100mm, and the 75-300mm which is macro.
You’re right about the 50 and 100, but not the 75-300.
If it aint 1:1, it aint macro.
And that 30mm E lens doesnt count.
30mm DT lens came SAL30M28
I see that now.
Shows how much I know about the cheap Sony plastic lens lineup.
Cheap but excellent 🙂
A macro can be 1:2 or even 2:1 or 3:1. This “only 1:1 is macro” rule some want to strangely apply is really… well… strange.
You both forgot the old Minolta 35~70mm f/4 with macro mode. It such a great little lens I bought two of them. They are/were dirt cheap on eBay and it’s an extremely SHARP lens.
The perfect camera is always one product cycle away.
The perfect camera is a Mamiya 7. Only 3 lenses (no lens lust), mostly manual, never dies and sexy as hell.
The perfect camera is a Barry designed Sony Camera!!!
I’ll just keep my A77 and wait. I wish Sony had a similar mindset to firmware updates like Fuji does. I don’t expect changes that are impossible due to the constraints of the hardware but allowing more flexibility with reassigning buttons to do other functions would be helpful.
Has anyone else had their 16-50 F2.5 Sony lens become very stiff over time?
The first one I had was swapped out not too long after purchase by the camera store I pruchased the camera and lens from but now it’s a few years later I’ve asked Sony Australia about the issue and they have requested I send the lens into them, pay a service fee for them to ‘look’ at the lens.
I wonder if this issue has been resolved or if I perhaps got 2x faulty lenses from the same batch?
I’m interested to know if any others experienced the same stiffness of the lens, it use to be easy to move around (zoom) but over time has become VERY stiff.
Алексей Озеров •- you are spot on. Getting a bit sick and tired of waiting for sony to come up with the right camera. So far they seems to have good features spread over all the different model.
does the flare contol get an upgrade as well? This lens is great except for anything but sunshots
No way