Sony SLT-A77 Demonstration movie – Jetskis from Nick Webster on Vimeo.
The taiwanese website Mobile01 posted the very first full A77 review. You can click here to read the google english translation. Keep in mind that google removes the embedded youtube video code so you have to click here to see the original chinese post to see videos and image samples. There are plenty of JPEG and RAW files to download. The chinese reviewer is impressed by the OLED viewfinder and said the image quality is very good up to ISO 1.600.
More A77 news:
ThePictureDesk posted new A77 and A65 image samples. There is a short A77 preview at Photocomment. And we have a new A77/7D/5N iso 1600 image comparison discussion at Dpreview.
And here are the links to all new cameras and lenses from Sony:
A77 at [shopcountry 8461].
A65 at [shopcountry 8459].
Sony NEX-7 [shopcountry 8454].
Sony NEX-5n [shopcountry 8452].
Zeiss 24mm f/1.8 [shopcountry 8450].
Sony 50mm f/1.8 [shopcountry 8448].
Sony 55-210mm [shopcountry 8444].
NEX-5n viewfinder [shopcountry 9110].
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beware, dont try to read this sneakily at work, the google translation is hilarious. Read the translations of the comments too, excellent stuff.
Btw the website is Taiwanese instead Chinese
Take a closer look at the DPReview image comparison–particularly the source from witch the images were taken, “Imaging Resource.” There are places in each image where the SLT-A77 files are as sharp or sharper than the NEX-5N files…they’re just at different focus distances. The model’s foreground arm, and the table just beneath it, are the dead give-away.
http://www.swiatobrazu.pl/sony-slt-a77-pierwsze-zdjecia-przykladowe–i-pelen-test-iso-24324.html
I downloaded few RAWs, and for example those katanas are really sharp and detailed. Plus it takes noise removing really well. Downside is, that it apparently needs really good lens to perform as it should and even smallest inaccuracy in focus is visible.
Is that because of aperture/DoF??
High MP sensor can record higher detail than low MP sensor. So if the picture is just OOF by a hair, you can still it with high MP. In addition, low resolving lens gets less detail; so the high MP sensor would easily such flaw. Like Daemonius said, to bring out the full advantage of a 24MP compared to a 16MP, we need high resolving lens with accurate focus.
Who wants the katana’s sharp? I really wonder: why are so many pictures with the A77 OOF??
Because most people testing the a77 and posting photos online are tech people and not actual photographers. If I give my a55 to my friend who is a computer whiz but isn’t a photographer he’ll give me some shots with missed focus as well. It can be as simple as choosing continuous AF when single shot is called for, etc.
Thanks Matt, I hope you’re right as this is now worrying me. Also bcs I do not know a lot about the technical side of AF systems. So I do not understand why you would need a better lens for the A77’s AF system (a better lens is always nice but why do you need it here bcs you have more MP?).
Also there is a lot of a talk about the AF being different bcs of the TL mirror. But pictures from the A5 and A35 that I have seen were really sharp.
So I am a bit confused and if anyone could explain, esp the MP issue I would be happy.
that movie is from the greece presentation nothing new realy.
The movie also shows that the “new” AF still has huge problems with things coming straight at it (or away from it).
This wasn’t improved since the olden days of Minolta SLRs and CaNikon trump Sony in this one for sure.
(And another bone for the faithful CaNikon 18-55 owners to chew on)
There isn’t a video camera in existence that can focus quicker than that. The test is as hard as it gets with constant spray also coming into sensor range. I was impressed. Please link to a better Canon video.
”Was published last year A33 /A55 rumors A77
there are a lot of people the existence of God,
but they feel the message exactly where milk
came out really do not know! ”
I’ll wait for a better review. Google translate has its limits.
Lol. The pictures were nice too see, though.
LOL,
this is poetry, my friend. Up to us to understand it 😀
The OVF ha a lag of 0.002 seconds, that ruins everything!
The samples had noise in it after 1600 ISO! This camera obviously can’t take photos!!!!
ALL I WANT IS A CANON 1D Mark 3 or a Nikon D3X for the same price as the A77!!!
/Sarcasm
Shit………..i’m trying to translate it under my will…. but this article is very long………….. i’m upset and just translate a little at the start….. hope it could help….. (maybe will translate more if i have time? it’s 12:48 mid-night now…)
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The Translucent Mirror Technology is nearly on behalf of Sony’s Digital Camera System. After the Blitz lead by the SONY NEX3 and NEX5 ILC which swept all over the world last year, They show their trump card “Translucent mirror” for their own DSLR product. The positive feedback of Sony A33 and A55 gave confident to Sony. The introduction of Translucent technology let their DSLR in the past own the EVF viewfinding Ability, menu and the other information will show inside the EVF in detail. Further more the it made the superiority of High speed continuous shooting and full time AF ability while taking either Still picture and movies. Similar to the control of a compact camera or a EVIL , very direct (** actually is it their typo? this two words is my predit…**) , It fulfill the requirement of newbies, even the enthusiast photographer. That’s why Sony Alpha get the seat of 2nd best selling after the A33 and A55 introduce.
※The A77 Test below is carry-out base on the Firmware Version 1.00. On the other hand Sony-Taiwan had obtain the Ver1.02 on hand, So, my artical of 2nd A77 Test not only concentrate on the continuous shooting test , but also testing the RAW/JPG Image Quality and the ISO performance test
one year had pass already , Sony did not smug about their success, they push more forward for the victory. At the end of August they had anounced couple of new models including the NEX-5N, NEX-7 , A65 and the A77 which tested at this article. The NEX-5N are already on sale at the market already. But seems out of stock everywhere. NEX-7 seems will be avaliable at December I guess. we will only know the price after that. The Selling Price of A65 and A77 at Taiwan are not confirm yet. Personally i guess it will be avaliable around the October! Dispite the A65 is just a descendent of A55 , it not only made the exterior look more attractive but enhance the performance of image sensor and other specification. As this article is for A77, we’ll introduce later if i could. Before start to introduce the camera from the exterior, let’s enjoy a couple of picture which taken by the A77!
★ SONY A77 + DT 16-50 samples photo★
** Photo link 1 , 2 , 3 , 4 , 5
I’m from Taiwan. I can read this article.
Most of those (170+) comments focus on the ISO performance. People feel sad about three things:
1. NR can’t be completely turned off in JPEG mode (only NR weak).
2. NR (weak) kicks in at ISO 200 and makes noise pattern blotchy.
3. Annoying “Waiting for NR processing” dialog pops up after every shot (since you can’t turn it off!).
Most people consider only ISO 1600 is usable and only ISO 50, 80, 100 are free of NR.
PS. all images are taken with v1.00 firmware. Hope NR behavior can be improved (less blotchy, more fine-grain) in future versions.
Seriously? You can’t disable NR?
It was recommended that for A700 you disable NR and HDR for ISO 1600+ because the NR is really bad.
EDIT: Hmm, the NR looks not bad though in the samples..
Yeah, there is only NR weak in v1.00 firmware. (confirmed in one of the menu screen) I really hope it can be fixed in final version.
Also, someone mentioned that the 3rd image (a bicycle in front of a yellowish wall) is a good example for poor ISO performance. It is an ISO 100 image and you can see a lot of chroma noise at 100% pixel peeping. I know seeing a 24MP image at 100% is crazy, but the image quality is not at the top level.
The inability to turn off NR was the major weakness of A700 for a while. I thought Sony should have learned that by now.
as somebody said, it’s a taiwanese site, not chinese 🙂
I don’t think you be born from a stone.
the word “chinese” refers to the language of the source, please try not to think in chinglish, and be less sensitive to politics, will ya ?
Well, although not politically, Taiwan is Chinese (in a wide cultural sense).
But you are right, saying “Chinese” in this context is misleading
The word Chinese has very negative connotations, as we all know the junk that comes out of China that kills our children (lead paint on toys), kills our pets (toxic pet food), and kills us (smoking, pollution, venereal disease, poisonous toothpaste, etc.) so it would be far better if the title reads Taiwanese than Chinese. Taiwan still holds a claim with the UN that they own (in fact they do) all of PRC, however let’s not taint the lovely Taiwanese with the toxic brush of China. Thanks.
It’s still a pre-production A77 , the final version would be at least ver 1.02….but I don’t think the ISO performance will be greatly improved. Now with NEX5N’s “click” problem , Sony’s 2011 camera line up seems to be an EPIC failure
A quick search on google reveals that there are in fact version 1.02 samples available: http://adam.hostowo.eu/a77raw.rar (found on FB).
Sorry, ‘Found on SAR FB’
I think the JPEG conversion is doing an exellent job between keeping high detail and reducing noise.
I had the same feeling when comparing D7000 and A77 on Imaging Resource. Nikon had a little less noise, but also less detail. The D7000 images just looked soft to me, while the A77 images were more snappy and sharper.
One more thing besides ISO.
More than one reviewer said that with current pre-production firmware, rotating dial to change aperture or shutter setting is laggy. The time lag is noticeable and annoying. I personally believe this issue will be fixed in the future. If not, I think A77 is nothing more than a hype.
The footage is amazing not just because of the focus abilities but also for the quality of video, quite different from previous SLR footage.
I’m really wondering what is going on with Sony pre-model testing these days. I just got a Sony NX70 “Pro” video camera. The zoom rocker on the body is all over the place. It has two speeds, “fast” and “super fast”. The rocker has plenty of travel distance but no proportional zoom control. (zero%) Sony Pro in Teaneck NY has completely acknowledged the issue and Sony is working on a firmware fix.
Did any Sony tester even try to zoom the test cameras just one time? Not one single person noticed this?
The NEX 5N click,…not even one Sony tester noticed this issue before it went into mass production?
Maybe we could blame it on the earthquake. I’m sure these products were right in mid-design when that happened. Maybe there were allot of distractions during the design & testing phase?
Cliff
The first buying consumers are the new product testers.
Sony needs some type of portal to hear of the issues more directly. This is like talking to a wall.
A77 + DT 16-50 f/2.8 ssm = 57800 NT$ (New Taiwan Dollars) = 1420 Euro (on 17/09/2011 quotation)
How come the out of the camera JPEG is so much better than Raw convert to JPEG? It is very clear in the 100% crop of the eye of the green figure. The out of the camera JPEG is so much sharper. It says it is using the Image Data Converter Ver. 4.0. Is the RAW -> JPEG converter so bad? I like to shoot in RAW … if the converter is so bad, I can’t live with it.
Use Lightroom… waiting for the new updates in Camera Raw codecs… the manage of noise and details in LR have no equal…
Thanks for the reply. So, will I get equal or better quality as the out of the camera JPEG using Lightroom? Does this mean the Adobe converter is better than Sony’s own converter?
Thanks.
Author mentioned that the sharpness level was set to +1 . Maybe that’s why JPEG looks better.