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Current & Future Sony Alpha System Flow chart based on my vision and your latest rumours (by Derek)

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SAR reader Derek created that chart of the possible future Sony cameras (Click on it to enlarge). Would you like it if it becomes true? 🙂

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    1. I’m all about having a both A77r, and A99r. A77r when I need the extra reach, and speed, and the A99r when I need the precision and image quality. Hopefully a new Zeiss prime will be announced.

  1. Well, I hope it is not true, it seems little bit st…d. Sony will have only Semi-Pro A mount (APS-C sensor)???? That means, very high price, what about consumer group, hobbyist currently using A mount but really can’t or don’t want to pay for “semi-pro” body?
    If this turns out to be true, than Sony proves that arrogance still exists, and they will pay the price in the long run (Same as they did for TVs).

  2. That’s excellent news. I can’t wait until the A77 replacement arrives. I am going to pre-order first chance I get. It’ll probably our perform the A99. Wasn’t there supposed to be a 32mp APC-C launched next year?

      1. Just a little fun, who cares? The other brands rumor sites have been running the same stale news for weeks, this site is great.

  3. Nice chart, but too bad Sony doesn’t care about what their users want or continuity. Everything will change every six months. Their head cheeze hates making or using a system and prefers to change everything in six months, whether their users like it or not.

      1. Yes it is their fault, that’s why they will will lose the camera battle with the big two, just like it’s your fault for being dumb enough to buy into their BS, and that is the reason your sony products will be obsolete in six months.

      2. By the way, I wouldn’t be caught dead with a Sony camera in my hand, unlike the sucker of the world. In case you didn’t catch that, I was referring to you, suckah.

          1. And I like to needle snot nosed fanboys like you, brings me great pleasure annoy you fanboys just like how you annoy the whole entire internet with all your fanboyism, lies and BS.

    1. If there was no change we’d still be working with wet plates.

      And Minolta lenses from the 80’s still work fine on current A-mount models, so the things that matter have stayed the same.

      Come to think of it, Sony should have changed sooner &%#&&$$#% Minolta Hotshoe!!

      1. You maybe should try using glass plates so you know what you are talking about. Without Sony what we would have is quality DSLR, better than any that Sony did. Especially since Sony is pushing rangefinder designs that lost out to SLR long ago. Don’t worry they will soon be imitating glass plates.

        And Sony puts out a proprietary hot shoe that’s not capable of more than manually firing other brands of flash and will drop your flash on the floor just like ISO is known for and you call a century old design that should have gone away long ago progress? The Minolta hot shoe was far better. Even the brands of remotes you claimed you needed to use don’t work with Sony’s hot shoe.

        What Sony has done is try and convince everyone that there is no such thing as a high end camera system. You only have to buy a new camera body every 6 months and nothing else. And that camera body will be more Cybershot like.

        1. The cranky bearded guy again?

          What you would have without Sony is no more a-mount cameras and lenses so what would you have put your Minolta flashes on then?

          And no…native multiport accessories and flashes do not fall off of the shoe. They are quite secure plus one has the benefit of being able to use canon flashes an accessories as well as using a host of accessories on a large and growing variety of Sony cyber shot, alpha, NEX and video cameras featuring thee multiport shoe. The Xlr adaptation with built-in phantom power directly from the camera through the shoe to the mic without any batteries is awesome. I expect a greater number of accessories to come for the multiport shoe with features that exceed any other camera makers’ shoe abilities.

          Sometimes compatibility has to be broken to move forward. The Minolta hot shoe is dead, but thanks to Sony at least the alpha line lives on.

  4. Just a nice chart! Everything is there. FF, APS-C, 1″, E-mound, A- mount. Where is the vision??
    Why two mounts when you can make a perfect/smooth adapter? Why 1″ where the phones compete you out. What’s NEW??? Let’s specutate….

    1. You couldn’t be more wrong! There are consumer, enthusiast and advanced models within all three lines. RX1 is not a consumer camera, NEX-3 and A3000 aren’t enthusiast cameras, and A58 is not advanced.

    2. Non one has caught on because it is incorrect.

      Cyber shot= fixed lens

      E-mount = named after the flange distance of Eighteen millimeters ( and since e is the next vowel after a it worked nicely)

      NEX = New E-mount eXperience

      A-mount = alpha mount, inherited from Minolta

      There are consumer, enthusiast and pro models in each line.

  5. Kill that A3000 series. When you slaughter small fish, you do not need a Butcher’s Knife. There is no need to take out pants to fart. It is totally unnecessary to put a Mirrorless in such ugly big body.

    1. The point is to sell stuff. Some consumers would like an inexpensive mirrorless camera with a large body.

        1. They’re not selling well anywhere. A3000 most likely will be a dead end – profit margins from that camera are low, and it sells very, very poorly. Obviously ppl didn’t buy into “let’s pretend you’re a DSLR” them.

          Likely A3000 failure is also a reason why Sony delayed introduction of mirrorless A-mount (next Full Frames will be still SLTs). All signs in heaven and earth also tell that A5000 was scrapped despite of being very far in development. It seems like Sony finally realized that they need to differentiate both lines of cameras, and E-mount DSLR-alike body is not something ppl want.

          1. I think most E-Mounts are terrific compact camera. But your right the A3000 was just a bad idea. I Sony will have a major hit on its hands when it releases a A7 variant that uses a APS-C sensor.

          2. I doubt. A3000 form-factor is more attractive than the one of A7. Right now from all of the body shapes Sony makes the A7 is worst one.

    2. Remember the prediction I made
      2014 will be a year of many camera inovations
      Sony will try differrent camera desighns to see what consumers want but only minor sensor chances.
      2015 will see the introdution of new sendor technology using the body styles developed proven and accepted by consumers in 2014.
      The only sensor inovations made in 2014 will have been those that can be usefull for the new technology sensors such as gapless offset microlenses…pdaf and / or contrast detect mirrorless af
      This is a review/remindor of my old prediction/ roadplan not a new prediction, but everything happening…including this roadplan , if accurate, is still consistent with my previous predictions.

      This is the spelling my earlier post would have had the first time if we had editing feature. Still not perfect but easier on the readers.

  6. For me would like either a-e mount mirrorless of very high resolution or a mount mirrorless of very high resolution.
    E mount not for me because no ibis…cant use with a mount lens collectionI already have.

  7. The A5000 already exists it’s the NEX-5T. I think the NEX 7 successor will be the A7000. Is there going to be 4 A mounts FF cameras? We know that there is supposed to be 2 in February and one is a high megapixel. The other 4k one has no MP released yet but it will be somewhere in the 8 to 24mp range.

    1. A5000 was suppose to be an alternative to A57 on E-mount, but Sony scrapped the project due to horrible sales of A3000, and name was later used by Asian Sony for Nex-5 series you mentioned.

  8. I can’t see Sony running two separate ranges of E-mount APS-C cameras alongside each other

    I guess the Axxx series will be APS-C and the Ax series will be full-frame

    But who knows?

  9. Please Sony discontinue the failure known as the A-mount and put your efforts in to E mount. It’s not too late.

    Give A mount users an E mount camera that has IBIS and there is no need for the ugly A mount cameras.

      1. Is he smoking drugs? The A-Mount cameras are selling really well, and they are highly popular. Sony profits from both bodies and lens sales from this platform. The A58 outsells all NEX cameras combined. It’s in Amazons top 10.

    1. If you have been reading sar youvwould remember that sony said e mount ff could not have ibis because allighment of sensor with mount is to exact to allow for sensor movement.
      Therefore e mount ff will never be compatable with a mount lenses .
      As an a mount user I do not like your suggestion for doing away with a mount.
      Fortunitely Sony does not like that suggestion either as evidenced by the development of a-e mount hybreds and new a mount cameras.
      While e mount is in many ways a very good product and can certainly stand on its own as a viable system…it is nowhere near ready to replace a mount.

    2. It’s in Sony’s best interest to keep both mounts, as right now future of mirrorless cameras is very uncertain. Despite of all the hype these get – sales don’t go up, but rather keep on falling for a 3rd year in a row. Don’t expect Sony dumping A-mount any time soon. Not with shrinking mirrorless market.

    3. It’s your fault for being so dumb to believe a company like Sony.But ‘m sure Sony cares about you as a customer. Cared so much they discontinued crap after crap you bought.

  10. horror show. how bout some serious cameras like an a850 successor with ovf and 16bit raw? or minolta xd7 digital with md mount?

  11. Some days ago i was thinking about proposing SAR to continously update a chart like that to know “how the hell to tack all that information”.

    THANK YOU !!!

    If this could be a fixed part of SAR updated with all pertinent rumour everybody could plan things to buy or not to buy depending on plans of delivering from campanies.

  12. Is this chart purely speculative, based on what the author would like to see, or is there any evidence that Sony is using such a roadmap internally?

  13. I would have assumed that the A-E mount hybrid was just the Z-shift A-mount camera with a small adapter to fit e-mount lenses: the Z-shift, used for focusing other lenses, but used for bringing the sensor up to the e-mount register in this case, means that the E bayonet can be in front of the A-mount one.

    1. I find the image shring borin and thrive on the technical stuff.
      I would NOT want the stuff that bores me eliminated i just skip reading it.

      Many postors have unusual views and opinions I dissagree with. I welcome that and would never want to see that taken away.

      If they take away your nieghbors and you dont speak up for them ….tomorow they will take away you and there will be no one left to speak up for you.

    2. You are looking at a wrong website. SAR is all about technical stuff. Theres plenty of websites about photos – no need to hang around here.

  14. It is amusing to see serious comments here based on some chart that a random bloke on the web has drawn up from his fantasy wish list.

    1. Actully it is not..it is a crefully compiled chart based on compilation of sar rumors and very little of it is based on personal speculation.
      I have reached many of the same conclusions based on compilation of the data available right .

  15. Andrea I wrote you via Facebook about the A-E Mount, is it coming finally? When will it be available, February? Which cameras you think will be delivered in February?

  16. It could be roughly correct but the model names don’t make sense. If there’s any logic in the new scheme, single-digit models should be full frame. The NEX-7 successor might be a7000 or perhaps a70 to start a new APS-C compact line.

  17. Most interesting how Sony will pattern their future mirrorless after the Minolta 7D! What happened to the Sony a700 and a900, more advanced cameras than the Minolta? And Sony has been oh so clearly in denial that Minolta was even part of the picture. I have both the Minolta 7D which my son uses and the a700s, which I use, very familiar with both and would definitely choose the a700 for Sony to pattern their imitation DSLRs after rather than the 7D. Or would that just be too much of a reminder of their treatment of a700 folks? Remind folks just how fleeting Sony support is?

  18. I don’t really care if sony comes out with new cameras. what they need to do is to fill in some gaps in their lens lineup. Admin – do you know if there will be any APS-C E mount lenses coming in 2014? Thanks.

  19. I’d put a lot of money on seeing 24mp and 36mp FF a-mount bodies in 2014. At a guess, the 24mp version will be priced to compete with the 6d/610 (possibly with a decent enough buffer to encourage the sport crowd) and the 36mp version will replace the a99.

    We’ll also most likely see a77 and nex 7 successors based around the same sensor, and probably a nex5/a58 replacement (I think it’s unlikely Sony will plan on only having 1 apsc a-mount body).

  20. A mount needs more than 2 models next year, we need a new entry model (that isn’t crud) and we need a new A65 model that offers people more.

    I’m not that interested in another overpriced FF body, or another A77
    Better to buy an ebay older body IMO Sony have little to offer folks bar that nasty hot shoe

  21. it will be great that having a SLT like this :

    high frame rate (like 10 or more)
    keep the corp mode there (which will do 1.4 / 2x for lazy guy like me , optional digital crystal clear )
    higher pixel count (24mp apsc is good for me actually (36 for FF sure) , but need to improve performance)
    big buffer (sony please , a77 stop about only a second )
    faster transfer rate SD card ( please add support to UHS , really need it)

    SLT you can benefit to high frame rate and a well done liveview , easier to take photo at different angle .but side effect is light fall off because reflected , it worth anyway.

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