The Sony A7m2 preorders for US are now online and the best thing is the camera will already ship on December 9 according to Amazon (Click here) and December 8 according to SonyStore (Click here). Nice to get the new camera before Christmas! 🙂
Here is the full preorder list:
USA preorders:
Sony Alpha a7II (Body Only) for $1,698 at Amazon (Click here), BHphoto (Click here), Adorama (Click here), SonyStore (Click here).
Sony Alpha a7II with FE 28-70mm OSS Lens for $1,998 at Amazon (Click here), BHphoto (Click here), Adorama (Click here), SonyStore (Click here).
Sony 70-300mm f/4.5-5.6 G SSM II Lens for $1,148 at BHphoto (Click here).
EU preorders:
Sony Alpha a7II (Body Only) for 1.799 Euro at Amazon Germany (Click here) and 1299 pounds at Wex UK (Click here).
Sony Alpha a7II with FE 28-70mm OSS Lens for 2.099 Euro at Amazon Germany (Click here) and 1699 pounds at Wex UK (Click here).
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Wow, that was quick.
That’s what she said.
Hate when that happens. 🙁
HULK just heard your moma say…
“already!”
Such a superfluous Americanism.
And such a superfluous comment. 🙂
Arguably, yes, but necessary, so no. 😉
I don’t think it’s superfluous. It’s expressing surprise that it is shipping so quickly. That’s a rather short period between being announced and appearing in the stores.
@Admin
Hope they will be also that quick when they launch the stuff in january.
Still missing the sneak peak thing. 😉
It’s quick because it is virtually the same camera as the A7 and the main improvements seem to be firmware based.
The new body is very nice, but I bet there was little needed in terms of changing production lines.
5 Axis stabilization was the main improvement and that requires a number of hardware changes (the IBIS mechanism, body size increase etc.) and firmware so it’s actually quite a lot for Sony’s design and manufacturing divisions to accomplish in a relatively short period of time. Don’t sell them short.
It’s a significant upgrade for a camera that’s barely a year old.
I think IBIS is quite a big deal. This is not like the A7R and the A7S, where the outside changes are essentially cosmetic. The inside of the camera is going to be quite a lot different.
Of course it’s still in the same family, and no doubt share many of the same parts, but it’s also not just a firmware change.
Not to mention the fix for the very annoying sensor reflections.
yeah, I’m waiting for the firmware that allows IBIS on my A7r, as well as the patch that moves the shutter button forward.
Just a few lines of code, not a big deal. LOL
Peter is always entertaining. I’ve grown to enjoy his ill-informed comments and the responses they elicit.
The body and the internals have changed, plus they are still manufacturing the other a7 cameras. I doubt the money and effort was insignificant to set up manufacturing for this one.
Oh Peter. Why do you do this to yourself?
obviously you bet wrong. dont kid yourself. upgrading firmware will not turn your iphone 5 into iphone 6.
I like that our US price is cheaper than European.
Our price doesn’t include a 21% tax that the EU imposes on purchasers of products there.
you don`t have full social insurance. i can go to a hospital and have the best medical service without paying. so i pay 20% for a camera that costs xxxx.
i think this is a good deal 😉
I wasn’t passing judgment. I was simply stating the fact that in the EU tax is included in the listed price and in the US it is not. It wasn’t a political statement.
There is no EU tax. HULK friendly points you towards google.
But you will never enjoy the freedom of dieing on the street in a cardboard box because you have no medical insurance. Freedom has it’s price.
It looks like the A7 II was a very well kept secret. I recall only speculation about E-mount IBIS, nothing in the way of a remotely credible rumour. To have announced a camera and having it shipped so quickly means that a great deal of work had been done to set-up production lines, order in parts and get ready for the launch. This is not one of those announce now and ship in several months products.
Possibly the reason Sony have kept this so secret is that it had the potential to torpedo A7 sales whilst everybody waited. Always a possibility with any new product, but when there’s such a significant change as IBIS, then it’s going to have a huge impact.
And then there’s Sigma that takes two years to change over production for a different mount on the same lens.
True, but Sigma can probably afford to wait and see how demand evolves. A-mount is not exactly their biggest seller. More a matter of priorities than anything else.
I don’t think they have the production facilities or know how to take advantage of their superb engineering department. It’s this kind of short sighted thinking that keeps Sigma a bit player, it’s the can’t do production team.
There’s quite an interesting tour of their one and only production site here. Whilst, at 50,000 square feet/5,000 square metres, it’s actually rather modest in size. As Sigma is the largest independent lens manufacturer, I rather expected something bigger.
It is stuffed pretty full though, although I think a lot of the manufacturing is very time intensive. Grinding and polishing lenses takes time, and assembling them is a time consuming business with a lot of precision required. A bit of a specialist job. In contrast, assembling cameras like the A7 can probably be done in a wide range of electronics factories (mirrorless cameras are easier to build than DSLRs as there are fewer and simpler components to align).
Anyway, it might explain why new camera models can be assembled so quickly. They are semi-modular and many of the components can be reused in many models. In contrast, every lens has a unique optical design.
http://www.imaging-resource.com/news/2013/09/19/a-geeks-tour-of-sigmas-aizu-lens-factory-precision-production-from-the-insi
Good point, but Sigma from what you described in your earlier post seems to be working without a real business plan.
Generally before you put your engineers to work to design something, you have already estimated the engineering, production and materials costs and predicted the number of sales and profit (within reason). You should already know who your customers are, and the number of product variations (mounts). All before the project is capitalized.
It make sense to execute all phases of the plan to a tight schedule and get everything built before switching the production line over to another product. Delaying production increases costs and allows your competition to get their similar product to market.
I worked as a manufacturing engineer for 15 years at an aerospace company where small production runs (similar to lens production) are the norm. And this is how we do it. 🙂
I felt the same here. This is ever HUGE leap in history FF mirrorless or call it game changer. and no rumor from it. Sony sealed the rumor completely. lol…
no wording anywhere about silent electronic shutter. Is it in there?
Yes, the camera comes with complimentary ear plugs. 🙂
for everyone near me? that’ll require a lot of earplugs. Also when I shoot birds and insects with it, does it come with tiny little earplugs for them?
As I recall the A7 first curtain shutter was much quieter than the A7r, Sony likely improved on that somewhat for this new version. Have to wait and see or hear.
yeah. a7 shutter was much quieter then a7r. i tested both.
A7R is great fun to take to the art museum. KRANCHANKATHUNKATHUNK!! Everybody looking around at me like what the hell? lol
I’ve had both (A7r for longer) and I agree it is quieter, but i am not sure about ‘much quieter’
Check the spec-sheet. There is no silent shutter in A7ii.
http://www.sony.jp/ichigan/products/ILCE-7M2/speclist.html
No, and the next person to ask that question again will get a slap across the face.
And double SMASH to the nuts from HULK!
Well I am glad I am not the next person
It has EFCS. I doubt you’ll see a silent shutter on a 24MP sensor for a while.
What we need now is another inspirational video from Kenta Honjo.
£1299 body only, which isn’t bad… I’ll see what the price is like at the end of January.
I wonder when BH photo will ship? Another sucker born every minute.. come to Daddy 😀
Could you update/correct and re-post your comment again so that it makes sense?
Non sequitur.
I still wonder why the unusually quiet a7II release.
It is a major upgrade/step in the line up.
Because bigger things are coming 😉
Like your mom
Hulk one trick pony and out of depth. Hulk need new material
Because Sony want to hide new sensor wobble from HULK. Wobble out of control of fear of HULK!
thank you, Sony people! During these days I’ve had one of the best lessons about how modern marketing should work. No rumors at all on the new jewel, distraction with a pro MF 50mpx camera within few months, then the promise for an a-nine, the big and sudden surprise for the IBIS inside new camera, desired but fully not expected now, then availability on January, now pre orders on December 8th almost all over the world, some people answering on the forum spending a lot of time and words to minimize any issue or sceptic comment…
All this things happening just one year after the revolution of the two expected Full Frame mirrorless, how a7 and a7r look like old gadgets now…..
But let me say, they convinced myself, I like this a7m2, it works, I wish it….. as well as I wish the coming anine, even if I do not know about it… Looking forward those next dates, tonight I still shoot with my Olympus OM 1, lunasix 3 and my FP4….
Is there a point in there somewhere?
He’s shooting tonight with his OM1, that explains the nonsensical long winded rant to nowhere.
I see, sensor envy, a new form of mania and it’s particularly acute when afflicting M43 owners. I believe there is a support group for that on dpreview.
WTF?
I’m guessing it’s that was the result of automatic language translation.
I think the point that’s being made is that Sony kept this very secret using diversionary tactics, like the MF sensor. Now it’s appeared I think he’s saying it’s rendered the existing A7 series obsolete, which is why it was kept so secret.
At least that’s the nearest I can get to it. I’m not sure what the Olympus stuff is about.
That kinda makes send when you think about it. While it may not replace the R or S for some the masses would me much more inclined to skip and buy the one on the way. This was reinforced when we began seeing major vendors offering discounts on the 7 but really for me, the R. It was way too soon to start discounting that unless something was up. Not that I had and inkling about the II. Total left field there.. That and after working with the R for the better part of a year; while its worth it to work with its foibles it can be a real pita 🙂
On one hand I get it. You have inventory which needs to be moved else you take one between the eyes. The other is us going, what the heck with the back, to back..to back..to back…(you get the point) bodies.
End of the day this whole mirrored thing is new territory so this peppering is forgivable, and to a degree welcome.
The masses? These are all products for the masses. Non-photographing masses.
HULK think your brain need SMASH!
It’s already severely damaged.
Back in your cage simpleton.
i will enjoy the price drop of the the “old” sony cameras on the used market.
i expect to pay less than 800 euros for a used a7.
if i sell it after one year i expect to receive 700 euros 😉
not so bad. or i wait for some other things.
time is on my side. do not need the newest.
i like to photograph ; ))
greetings
michael
But everyday makes you shorter of breath and one day closer to death, so time is not on your side. 🙂
Looks like Sony US didn’t bother to update the vertical grip recommendation for the A7-II – they still offer the VG-C1EM, and there is no store in the US carrying the VG-C2EM. Does anybody know if the old grip will work with the A7-II?
Looks like its sold out on Amazon, and the number one compact camera right now.
I think its a disgrace that Sony just decide to charge more in Europe than anywhere else.
The camera is €500 euro more in Europe than in Japan or the US. No reason for it. That’s 625 dollars more we will have to pay, just because we are in Europe. Ridiculous.