Image courtesy: Imaging Resource
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Imaging Resource (Click here) added a couple of interesting A7r comparisons with other cameras:
– A7r vs Canon 5DmarkIII: “the Sony A7R clearly overshadows it with much more fine detail, particularly on the mosaic and fabrics.”
– A7r vs D800E: “Both cameras here show fantastic detail. The Sony actually does a better with the mosaic in its default JPEGs than the Nikon.”
– A7r vs Pentax 645D: “The camera that shocked the staff of IR with the amazing level of detail it showed now has a competitor with the Sony A7R. The mosaic crop shows slightly crisper detail in the A7R’s image, while the Pentax still produces a cleaner image of the red fabric.”
– A7r vs RX1R: “The A7R pulls ahead in the fabric crop however, with better fine detail in red fabric.”
Conclusion: “it’s clear that the Sony A7R delivers fantastic image quality, across a broad range of ISO levels. Sony seems to have finally gotten a handle on their in-camera JPEG processing”
Part two of the A7r review by Frank Doorhof is now online:
What I really like about the files from the A7r is the quality of the “pixels” now let me explain. A lot of RAW images are fine but as soon as you start pushing the pixels around they will often break down, this can be because of dynamic range, noise or simply because….. you fill in the blanks. Medium format files are in my experience always rock solid, as long as you don’t lift too much shadows they can be pushed around like crazy without “breaking”. The A7r files are very close, due to the lack of the AA filter the images are incredibly sharp, and I really mean incredibly sharp, there is detail there that you will never see on a normal DSLR, however you have to realize that your choice of glass get’s incredibly important, if you use mediocre glass you will get very mediocre results
Also our friends from Digitalversus (Click here) published their full Sony A7r review. They say the A7r sets a new standard in term of image quality. Overall score is only 4/5, but this is due to an odd rating system where short battery life or “long” starting time (3s) wheigh has much as control or image quality is the overall score.
Specs and Preorders in US and Canada (Click on store name to see direct preorder page):
Dedicated Sony announcement page at Amazon US (Click here).
Sony A7r body at Amazon, Adorama, BHphoto, SonystoreUS. TheCameraStore Canada.
Sony A7 body at Amazon, Adorama, BHphoto, SonystoreUS. TheCameraStore Canada.
Sony A7 with 28-70mm kit lens at Amazon, Adorama, BHphoto, SonystoreUS. TheCameraStore Canada.
Sony RX10 at Amazon, Adorama, BHphoto, SonystoreUS.
Zeiss 24-70mm at Amazon, Adorama, BHphoto, SonystoreUS.
Zeiss 35mm at Amazon, Adorama, BHphoto, SonystoreUS.
Zeiss 55mm at Amazon, Adorama, BHphoto, SonystoreUS.
70-200mm A-mount at Amazon, Adorama, BHphoto, SonystoreUS.
Sony A-Mount to E-Mount Lens Adapter at Amazon, Adorama, BHphoto.
Sony A to E adapter with mirror at Amazon, Adorama, BHphoto.
A7/A7r leather case at Amazon, Adorama, BHphoto, SonystoreUS.
A7/A7r vertical grip at Amazon, BHphoto, SonystoreUS.
Sony W Series Battery Charger at Amazon, BHphoto.
Sony FA-CS1M Off-Camera Shoe at BHphoto.
Semi-Hard LCD Screen Protector for A7-A7r at Amazon, BHphoto.
Specs and Preorders in Europe:
Sony A7r body at Sony DE, UK, FR, IT, ES, NL, BE, CH, AT, SE, FI, NO, PT, WexUK, WexDE.
Sony A7 body at Sony DE, UK, FR, IT, ES, NL, BE, CH, AT, SE, FI, NO, PT, WexUK, WexDE, Amazon UK, Amazon DE, Amazon FR.
Sony A7 with 28-70mm kit Sony DE, UK, FR, IT, ES, NL, BE, CH, AT, SE, FI, NO, PT, WexUK, WexDE, Amazon UK, Amazon DE, Amazon FR.
Sony RX10 at Sony DE, UK, FR, IT, ES, NL, BE, CH, AT, SE, FI, NO, PT, WexUK, WexDE.
Zeiss 35mm at Sony DE, UK, FR, IT, ES, NL, BE, CH, AT, SE, FI, NO, PT,
Zeiss 55mm at Sony DE, UK, FR, IT, ES, NL, BE, CH, AT, SE, FI, NO, PT
Asia:
A7r at Digitalrev.
A7 at Digitalrev, Amazon Cina.
A7 with 28-70mm lens at Digitalrev.
104 Responses
3s start up time is really slow. Is it because of pre-production firmware?
the rx1 takes about 2-3 seconds to start up also
I can’t take anything Frank Doorhof says seriously. Besides his utter inaccuracies about various technical details or even simple facts (such as his claim that the official word on tethering wasn’t yes even though Sony’s own sales copy for Amazon says quite clearly it’s supported), he never actually has real explanations for anything. This is a man whose entire concept of reviewing a camera is to protect his preconceptions of reality with nonsense non-explanations lacking any kind of objective, fact-based backing.
This quoted paragraph is a perfect example. He says nothing there. Nothing at all. Just a string of total bullshit. Why does anyone pay attention to him? He clearly has no competence to write about the technology here. He might do fine as a photographer, but, you know, very few pianists can make a piano, and most can not even tune them.
Well said!
Except I would have started that paragraph with: We can’t take anything Zachery says… 😉
The little Sony a7r RAW files, kick the D800E in the ass.
And that’s really all we need to know.
Cmn, Nikon D800 still is outstanding camera. Taking into account AF speed and accuracy you will never get better in focus pictures with a7r in dim light.
From my experience with the D800E I would say that some of the comparison samples taken with the D800E were not accurately focused.
Nevertheless the results from the A7R look very promising.
I switched from D800e to Canon because af in low light is horrible. F5.6 af sensitivity just doesn’t cut it. Rx1 works better. I am not kidding. Maybe trolling, but I am not lying.
My initial impression when looking at the differences between the A7r and D800e is that the cameras were not focused on the same thing. I wouldn’t say inaccurate focus as I don’t know how the focused to begin with. However, part of the differences in IQ of the two cameras may be explained by this focus issue. Given that and given the sample images, I can’t really say that one is better than the other.
If I have to choose which camera to get, however, I will go with the A7r. But that’s more of a personal choice.
Well now that you know it kicks the d800 in the ass, does this mean you will be producing some amazing 6400 ISO pics of your cat or was the comment meant to stop without a point?
Were there any test done comparing focusing, overall handling, or real world samples, or are we just looking at a piece of cloth photographed?
Never understood why people get so crazy over some silly test and why it is always this camera vs that camera.
If you want to se amazing photographs head over to 500pix, so many of which are taken with crop sensors, beginner cameras, etc, and are breath taking.
These aren’t photography sites, these are photography tool / toy sites.
I think A7 kicks A7r in the ass in real life situations when AF matters.
Also, Nikon DF = 50% resoultion compared to D800/A7r, so I doubt it kicks its ass other than in VERY low light situations
Emir, you started right but then got lost with the “kicking butt” bit.
No arse was kicked – yet.
You mad bro? =:)
It’s ok man..
Life can be pretty rough sometimes. Just Move on..
….and sell your Nikon away.
Have to agree with you on this review, kinda reminds me of Ken Rockwell bullsh*t. I have to say that phoblographer (Chris Gampat) is not far away…
Phoblographer do not even seem to be competent photographers.
He’s being totally non-technical, but I think he’s actually touching on both dynamic range and shadow encoding.
Sony’s have higher dynamic range at low ISO, which is what he would see as he’s a studio shooter and will never be far from base ISO.
Also, other cameras (esp the 5D) encode more information in the highlights at the expense of the shadows, whereas the Sonys are much flatter, meaning you can lift up the shadows a lot more on a Sony without the shadows breaking up and banding. In other non-sony cameras, you would be more likely to resort to shooting to the right if you know you will be lifting shadows.
with no experiance from other brands i have to say thanks for the info. need to check that out myself sometime
“I can’t take anything Frank Doorhof says seriously.” – totally agreed. Just look at samples he got – classical issue with focusing, guy can’t focus two cameras in the same point.
It’s a waste of time and space to post any this guy makes.
And you can’t read an article because it’s not Frank Doorhof who has shoot the samples with the cloth it’s from imaging-resource and they are often not focused on the same point.
David
Zachery,
Can you quote the paragraph from Sony that says tethering is supported?
I can’t find it…
Digitalversus: Big file sizes can prove challenging for some computers when editing
Calling this a con for a camera is just plain stupid!
+1
“But my Ferrari goes waaay fast when I step on the gas: CON”
Sounds to me the classic case of “I gotta find a fault with it” and he just went with anything came to his head.
Well it is a con for the people who get caught within the Sony hype machine. Who really just want something to point and shoot with.
At least with the A7r’s resolution, they can crop the hell out of their photos, to try and make it look as if they have some compositional skills.
Andrea i just saw you changed lesnumeriques by Digitalversus its appear that is the same but in english now, but can you keep the link in french too for your French fans 🙂
That High ISO looks great!
well, considering the amount of detail captured is closely related to the number of pixels, unless the lens used isn’t up to it, the results aren’t surprising at all. The only thing I find strange about that is that reviewers are so surprised. mentioning the pink fabric in the high iso comparison seems strange given that the 5D didn’t capture much detail there to start with. In resolution, it is outperformed by the A7R and D800, that’s known already. And the lack of noise makes me wonder how challenging the setup really was for these cameras.
They’re all clearly good at managing higher iso settings but I’m not sure what we’re supposed to learn from this test which we didn’t already know?
It’s time we stop talking about Sony A7/7r vs XXXX. We know how good/bad these 2 cameras are. I’m afraid if proven to be value for money as compared to MF cam, Sony might not revise prices of these and future cams as we know MF cams can cost up to 5-figure sums.
SONY makes money after all in this business even as they continue to innovate. Such findings may be bad for Sony consumers in the future.
My 2 cents.
The A7r and the Nikon D800E, are very close to medium format image quality. However, even with the best lenses, they’re still not quite there yet.
NIKKOR 58mm f/1.4G quality is as close as it gets.
The 58/1.4 is not a sharp lens… If anything, the Otus crushes any lens at this focal length.
Even Nikon do not advertise it as a sharp lens. It is very fuzzy wide open (fuzzier than the 50/1.4) and designed deliberately that way.. read the information from Nikon.
I never said it was sharp wide open (even so, it is plenty sharp enough.), however it is sharper than the 50/1.4.
Sharpness isn’t the only component of image quality, BTW.
To bad these are good light high ISO comparisons.
I would love to see them do same for low light situation.
There we would see the true performance where high ISO is mos needed.
There are RAW files ranging from ISO100 – 256000 available from both camera’s.
I’ll repeat “they are only good light.”
Hi Andrea, what I find strange that You have omitted any reference the A7 from this test.
Not everyone wants The A7R. If I remember correctly, the A7 still outperforms the 5D and it is not far behind The D800. Would be great if You could add This info to your post
As soon as they post the full A7 review I will write about it! Was just waiting for that 🙂
You mean not far behind the D600/D610, right?
The tests are in IR site. Just go there.
3 seconds startup time? Definitely a big minus.
Weird, right (NEX-7 was great already). Maybe the wake up time is better?
With NEX-5n wake up time is very close to startup time (I lost many shots due to this), so I have a little hope here.
If the wake-up time is as slow as the start up, it’s a definite no buy for me.
I found an easy work around to slow wake/start times. No, I’m not trying to make fun of anyone, but it is simple.
For my Canon 6D, I had to change how I lift the camera for a shot due to the power switch being on the left side. Took a while, but I eventually got it down so that turning the camera off and on was instinctual once again, like it had been with my cameras in the past. So, the camera is on, shot taken, and switched off, without me even realizing it.
For the NEX, which does have a slower start, I started getting in the habit of flicking the on switch the moment my hand grips the handle. By the time I do my double take to make sure I want to shoot and lift the camera, it’s usually ready to fire. At worst, I have to wait half a second.
Every tool will have quirks and issues. EVERY one of them. What makes a tool work is how well you can cope with the quirks and drawbacks and work around them. For me, flicking the power switch preemptively, before I decide to take a shot, solved the slow start time issue.
Maybe others are less flexible with this, or somehow can’t be as preemptive in switching it on for whatever reason. Or they are so fast, they can go from camera in holster to clicking shutter in less than 2 seconds. Regardless, you’ll make it work if you WANT to make it work. If not, don’t waste your time, because you’ll never be happy.
could it be a slow SD card? this seemed (maybe still is) also problem with Fuji X cameras, you need at least 45Mb/s cards
Yeah, hard to understand why would such an advanced camera has such a SLOW startup time. Considering it has mediocre battery life, most users would have it switched on only when the moment arises. 3 seconds + a few seconds to compose and focus, that moment would have been long gone.
Comes down to the camera’s OS. Most of these cameras are running pretty fancy software now, and it just takes a long time to get everything set up and ready. These cameras are basically full computers now. You can do a lot to make the camera be ready to take a picture quicker, but it’s not easy. Imagine trying to get your desktop to boot that quick.
Doesn’t make any sense when other cameras has startup time that is less than half a second. Fancy OS causing slow startup time? That must be a joke. What so fancy about it, I’ve seen the menu of A7r on most of the review and I don’t see one feature that stands out or different to other competitor. 3second is WAY TOO SLOW, Sony better fixed it before they released it to the market, cause this slow startup is going to turn away lots of potential customers.
3 seconds?!? Seriously who cares about 3 seconds…leave your camera on if its an issue.
@Gav The Sony A7(r) has really bad battery life from those that has the chance to use it. And even with the battery grip attached, I’ve been told that it is still relatively poor compared to most advanced cameras in the market with a single battery. So leaving it on won’t be a wise idea at all.
(phone dropped The rest of my comment somehow):
It is interesting to know what real difference in IQ is between A7 and A7R, while saving 600 €, getting PDAF as well as firstcurtain el. shutter. Therefore please add This info from The IR test, Thanks!
I actually prefer the contrast detection autofocus, on the A7r. :/
It saves all the annoying fine-tuning of my lenses.
PDAF fine-tuning is only with DSLRs since these cameras have a separate PDAF sensor. As such, fine-tuning just means you need to compensate for the difference in distance between the PDAF sensor and the real sensor. With these mirrorless, you don’t have to worry about such thing.
I guess you’re wrong? Because if that were true, you wouldn’t need to have different settings for different lenses.
fine-tuning is only needed when focus plane = location of PDAF sensors is not the same as the image sensor plane. SO the alpha-mount adapter with PDAF needs fine-tuning, on-sensor PDAF not.
“The Sony actually does a better with the mosaic in its default JPEGs than the Nikon.” Whatever. This is so typical of imaging resource. If you check the ISO 1600 shots, the A7R background fabric looks out of focus. It can’t be so much worse than the d800E.
One thing they also should have noted is that Nikon is very conservative with sharpening (default Picture Controls settings) while Sony seems rather aggressive. All in all, they should perform pretty much the same in most respects. I prefer the conservative approach, because sharpening irrevocably destroys details, and you can also add more sharpening very easily in post.
Another thing that should be noted, is that comparing jpegs is sort of bizarre anyway.
No-one buys a 36MP camera to shoot jpegs.
I believe we’re at the point where focusing accuracy of the shooter is more important than which high-end sensor you are using… 🙂
I can see how DSLR users would consider 300-400 shots per battery would be a major negative compared the other FF heavy hitters.
Not a problem for me I’m upgrading from a NEX which has got about the same life.
Image Quality isn’t everything in a camera, handling is important and personal. If its a pain to use you wouldn’t like it.
Battery life is one of the downsides of mirrorless cameras because of the full time live view. My first “DSLR” was an NEX-5 and I eventually had to buy two extra batteries to get me through a full day of shooting. I thought that was normal(first “DSLR” ever) until I used my friends Canon 60D for a day. I was worried because he only had one battery, but after about 700-800 shots, it still had half the battery left.
I also wouldn’t consider it a completely negative thing, but I do wish they could have used the bigger M battery in the A7/7r.
Your first DSLR was NEX-5? Do I even need to bother to explain how funny this sentence is?
Note the quote marks around DSLR, you’re just a moron who doesn’t understand what they mean.
Can the Digitalversus “review” be taken seriously? There is no mention if this is the pre-release camera or final version with firmware 1.0 etc.
At least dpreview are diligent about listing what they are reviewing in the opening paragraph.
If this is a pre-production version, I think it is unfair to Sony and a waste of our time to give it a “score”. If it is the final release version a7r, then please let us know!
I photograph A99 with Zeiss and quality is top with 24 mpxi RAW to iso 6400th
A7R has an impressive resolution. The new FE series looks luxurious and wish them every success. Canon already some months loses a bit of quality sensors and more about the many Canon fans let hear: o)
A7R is just another good crusade against the competition. Rights for bad troll but good news for us fans of sony.
Trolls turn a lot of useless messages.
+1.
At the end of the day, if you’re happy with the camera you own, then you’re… happy! The A7R looks to be a very capable camera. Whatever minor flaws it may have are outweighed by the terrific IQ shown so far.
And, thus, 35mm-FF intrudes into MF territory…
At 33×44, the sensor size advantage of 645D against a7R is only 1.27x (diagonal), less than the difference between FF and APS-C (1.5x), or even between APS and µ43 (1.33). If the smaller sensor has better sensor technology, the difference can be erased.
Where MF still potentially has an advantage is lens quality, but this also can be overcome. Smaller sensors have other advantages, too…
How do you propose to bend physics to make 35mm lenses as good as MF? Light is light. The more you capture the better in terms of resolution and detail.
The Zeiss Otus is the best 35mm lens available and it’s massive. There is no solution that’ll give MF quality in small lenses with AF. Leica’s 50mm summicron is arguably better than the Zeiss because it’s so much smaller and essentially the same quality. It’s $7K and there’s no AF.
Compare the Leica S to the D800 or Sony A7R. The Leica – with a CCD sensor from Kodak – produces better files.
Of course it’s diminishing returns, though the Leica S glass will resolve 40-50 MP no problem.
Bigger sensors will always have an IQ advantage.
then again Pentax’s sensor is smaller than normal digital MF sensor (50.7 x 39)
Since when MF lenses are better than 135 format lenses? Larger format is better because they have a larger recording area. Putting those MF lenses on a FF body would actually yield worse result than a native FF lens. That’s why 135 format can’t never catch up with the bigger sensor. Difference in sensor tech (135 sensor tech is more advanced currently) might bring them close, but not equal. That’s a reason why m4/3 (or APS-C for that matter) can’t never touch FF, especially since FF sensor tech is not that much behind. That’s why it’s deceiving of Zeiss to say the Otus is of MF quality. It’s actually way better, but the sensor is the limiting factor.
You are forgetting one though.. MF lenses have larger flange distances making the lightbeam striking the sensor more narrow (not exactly telecentric but better than the ones with shorter flange distances). So, from that point of view they can be better.
It’s not like SLR lens is sitting that close to the sensor… Again, you can put a medium format lens (even them Leica S) on a FF digital (so the flange distance is still the same), and you would find out that they can’t compete with the best FF lenses. Well, if we have an Otus for medium format, that would be another matter…
“but this is due to an odd rating system where short battery life or “long” starting time (3s) wheigh has much as control or image quality is the overall score.”
and why shouldn’t it? 3 seconds is a long time. Whatever shot you had of any moving object would be gone by the time the camera turned on.
These cherry-picked quotes are misleading. The A7R is good, but it’s almost 2 years behind the D800E and pretty much equivalent IQ wise with a much smaller glass selection. It’s caught up. Not moved IQ forward. Meanwhile we’re about to see higher MP bodies from Canon (48MP) and Nikon (54MP).
“As noted above, we were initially quite surprised at the difference in sharp, crisp detail from the Sony compared to the Nikon. Upon further examination, though, it became apparent that the Sony is simply applying more sharpening by default. (But in a way most cameras don’t – the A7R’s images show no sign of “halos” or “outlines” around objects from the sharpening.) To see if we could even the playing field a bit, we took our ISO 100 test shot from the D800E and applied Unsharp Masking in Photoshop CS6 (150%, 0.3 pixel radius). With that additional processing, the level of fine, crisp detail looks more even between the two cameras.”
why they don’t compare RAW, I believe that A7R should produce slightly sharper results than D800E -> A7R doesn’t have optical low pass filter, D800E does, but cancelled out.
And comparing to non-existent cameras isn’t misleading? talk about cherry-picking.
oh, that too, missed that one out
If you have to process the OOC jpegs from the D800E to approach or equal the OOC jpegs from the A7R, then the latter does have a headstart with its jpegs. It’s that simple.
And as for cherry picking, you conveniently ignored what Imaging Resource wrote about noise handling, where they felt the A7R did a better job (especially regarding chroma noise).
Seriously, no sane person buys a camera capable of 36MP, so that they can shoot reasonably good jpegs. If you’re not shooting RAW, you don’t need 36MP.
It’s also a fraction of the size a fraction of the weight and a fraction of the cost.
The reality is the tests he does are flawed. When you bother to download the full files he has lifted the samples from a few problems show up. First he doesn’t focus on the exact same thing in the two test photos. He is not photographing a flat picture it is a 3 dimensional group of objects. So EVEN if he was using the identical lenses on the two cameras being compared he would need to be focused on the exact same point and be using the exact same f-stop for the comparison to even start to be worth anything. Before anyone puts much weight into the guys tests go download the full size files… look at the pepper shaker in the lower left of the photos in front of the box of crayons, you’ll then see just how out of focus the D800 was compared to the Sony… Which means all he has done is shown that an in focus photo looks better than one that is out of focus.
Worse still he isn’t using the same lens. So if you see one photo is a bit softer than the other how do you know it was the camera and not the lens that made the difference.
I’m all for comparing the abilities of two cameras, but it needs to be done in a better way or there are just too many variables left that make it meaningless. And no, I’m not trying to defend the Nikon. I have Nikon and Sony DSLRs and am probably going to get one of the A7 cameras… but it isn’t because I think it is light years ahead of the Nikon, and certainly isn’t because of these flawed test shots.
I do agree with some of the points but Nikon D800 censor is the first generation .
So you buy camera for shooting not objects but flat pictures…. Come on…
So now we know. The Pentax 645D has the best JPEG algorithm.
LOL 🙂 that’s fair assumption 😉
zzzzzzzzzzzzz what a boring load of rubbish. Who cares if the sensor of a Crapcon D3billion is better than a m43 thingy! It just does not matter a toss!
Get a life and take some photos with the camera you have, not the one you think you want and cannot afford.
haven’t taken meds yet?
I think the most important takeaway from all of the last statement. ‘… you have to realize that your choice of glass get’s incredibly important, if you use mediocre glass you will get very mediocre results’.
Yes, it’s obvious and we all know it, but I don’t think this has really hit home with Sony yet. One big reason they aren’t as successful as Canon and Nikon, and WON’T be, is because 90% of their lenses simply can’t compare with one from Canon or Nikon. Then they go and split their lens line with their differing stabilization so you can’t really interchange them at much above 50mm or so. Makes the search for quality lenses even worse. Especially for me, since I rarely shoot wider than 50mm right now.
The most awesome body and sensor in the world won’t do you any good if the glass in front of it is sub-par, or too expensive for what you get.
How are their existing lenses not comparable? Come on.
Hmm, the 1st lenses I have lined up to be used in my pre-ordered A7R are Canon 100/2.8L IS Makro and Zeiss Zf.2 Makro Planar 50/2. I’m curious how these lenses do not compare to Canikon lenses? As for Sony glass, they have great and not so great lenses in their A Mount lineup, just like Canon/Nikon. For example Sony 70-400 G2 is sharper/better than its Canikon counterparts.
Well, you’re going to be using an adapter. So right there you have a loss of image quality.
@36Megapixies: Why waste your limited lifetime posting all these negative comments?
You do not seem to have an understanding of Nex, A7 cameras and adapters. These adapters
are glass-less, therefore there is no loss in image quality on the A7/A7R. This is different to for example
Canon where you need a adapter with a extra lens to be able to mount for example legacy FD lenses.
Canon has always pretended their cameras are better than the are allowing softening and blocking in the file…
Come on Sony- drop a bomb on the industry and come out with a 46MP update to the A99 in febuary. Get rid of the soft video too, 4K please! Then, price it at 2300. DOMINATION>
It seems like people who claim d800 gets better photos than 5dmark3 never worked with both cameras, because who did they switched from d800 to Canon at once because d800 is slow, buggy and does not make photos of better quality than Canon 5d mark3. In the contrary, d800 is a huge terribly slow and noisy pain in photographers asses.
Yeah, let’s just ignore the horrible shadow noise and banding from the 5DmkIII for a second. Even (or especially)at wait for it… base ISO.
I assume a Crocodile has no idea what this is about. Compare to pure photo quality, 5D mark 3 is no match even to D600. If you shoot landscape mainly, you will appreciate the dynamic range of Nikon/Sony. I’m not saying anything about control, ergonomic or user interface. I’m just a bird giving opinion….
Also this comparison of 7r with canon 5d mark 3 is a joke. Don’t beliebe a single word of this questionable test.
This time you have to believe.
Buy/rent both of the camera, try it out with same good third party glass, examine yourself, is time to wake up….
3 sec start up is not true
http://www.imaging-resource.com/news/2013/11/04/sony-a7r-image-quality-analysis-medium-format-quality-35mm-body-judge-yours
“I was curious about this and just went down to the lab to test this out, non-scientifically of course. It’s not as slow as 3 seconds to power up, but it’s not instantaneous either (still fast enough that I wouldn’t really think twice about it). However, if you turn it off, then immediately flip the switch back to the on position, then yes, there is noticeable delay. I think the camera is perhaps doing a power-down sensor cleaning (though there’s no on-screen dialog to let you know) or some other power-down procedure, and the camera won’t power-up until it’s finished this little process.
Now, we haven’t run these cameras through our timing tests yet, so a more precise power-up timing analysis is coming up. Stay tuned!”
I think Nikon and Canon Both know their asses got kick that is why they discount their cameras to attract buyer .
True… They have felt too much pain… 😉
WHOOOAAAA.. Congrat SON.. this test should reveal its potential.
C’mon Guys…
those who didnt like : test yourself
why jpeg : A7 raw did not compatible with any pp software right now, and its not fair enough for A7 with 0.9 firmware againts 14th grade firmware fix on 5DIII and D800E, this pre production jpg engine already kick those jpg engine king arse…
Just wait until RAW test, they will find a way to debunk the truth.. TROLL
Dudes! Just go to the link http://www.imaging-resource.com/IMCOMP/COMPS01.HTM choose first camera Sony A58 and second camera Canon 5D Mark II and load images, Still life 100 ISO, compare in details when it loads full res after clicking on convex glass icons on left lower corners of each pic, side by side check the fabrics’ details in A58 then check same in Canon and look for what they have to offer. Its obvious they are playing tricks by smoothing the general photography subjects such as bottle, wrapers, general colors but when when try to catch the fabric structure details they fail. I have checked the A58 is even better than A77. Please check and kindly comment.
What I would like to know is what kind of crap lens they’re using on the Canon and Nikon. The comparison obviously was stacked against those two. They used a prime lens on the A7R and most likely some zoom lens on the other two. Notice it was never mentioned what lenses they used in the comparisons?