It isn’t really a surprise but I am getting first “confirmations” that both the NEX-7 and the A77 successors will use the same new 24 Megapixel APS-C sensor. And they will also use the same 3,8 Million Dot OLED viewfinder. The NEX-7n may be announced in April while the A78 (or whatever name it will have) will be announced in June-July.
What’s coming after the NEX-7n and A78? It looks like all the more advanced and Full Frame stuff is coming form early 2014 towards. There may be a new RX10 and RX200 the second half of this year but I got no reliable info about that yet.
For sources: I know ask my sources if they have some more info about the upcoming E-mount lenses. I heard there may be a fast and expensive zoom lens. If you have some details you can share than contact me at sonyalpharumors@gmail.com or use the anonymous contact form you see on the right border of this website. Thanks!
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Reminder (SR = Sonyrumor):
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SR2=rumor from unknown sources
SR3=50% chance it is correct
SR4=rumor from known sources
SR5=almost certainly correct!
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Dear Admin,
Do you think this means that in the smaller sized body style of the A57 / A58 there will be no higher graded cam anymore like the A65 ?
So A58 and A78 will be APSC A mount and that`s it ??????????
Thanks for your opinion
HEXAR
It looks like you are right for now. On the other hand, maybe a A3x camera will reappear. This will then be a really basic small camera body without a build-in focus motor.
So the line up would become:
A3x : cheap beginners APS-C camera
A58 : standard APS-C camera
A78 : advanced APS-C camera
A99 : advanced FF camera
I don’t think we will see a A3x, Sony will expect people to buy a NEX-3 instead.
Uh? But NEX isn’t an option for someone who wants to buy a DSLR. It doesn’t even have a DSLR bayonet.
If anything: Sony wants them to buy A58 – hence the lower price of it than A57.
“Uh? But NEX isn’t an option for someone who wants to buy a DSLR.”
It IS an option – it’s just that some people don’t know it. Too many people don’t know that they don’t need a DSLR to get DSLR quality photos. Sony need to get that through to people.
“It doesn’t even have a DSLR bayonet.”
What do you mean? Why is that a problem?
The strategy is obvious, push people to NEX.
As long as the NEX has IS I’m fine with using my alpha lenses on it…
A strategy of pushing people in a particular direction is doomed to failure – push people one way & they will usually go the other – push people who want a starter DSLR to NEX will only serve to push them to Cannon/Nikon where they can get a starter DSLR…. Looks & perception are large factors in this market & only a DSLR form factor will hack it.
All IMHO of course, & this may change in years to come, but that is how I see the market today.
It’s not an option because it’s not a DSLR. If someone wants a portable compact camera with high IQ – he either buys NEX or a true compact. If someone wants a DSLR he buys a DSLR. Period.
“What do you mean? Why is that a problem?” – cause you hardly have any AF lenses at all. That’s why it is a problem.
@Lotus
When they build a NEX body that can comfortably hold a 300+mm lens I would say you are right.
Oh wait that’s A-mount
The point I made, if you care to read it properly, is that a lot of people think they want or need a DSLR, but they don’t know that there are other options that would suit them better.
Hardly any AF lenses? I thought we were talking about entry-level here. The current native lineup is more than adequate for the majority of consumers purchasing an entry-level APS-C camera, not to mention that the lineup can be expanded with adapters.
The point I made, if you care to read it properly, is that a lot of NEX people think every beginners needs and wants NEX over SLT/DSLR camera, which simply: isn’t truth.
But the behaviour like that is something I suppose we need to get used to – most funny thing was when month ago I seen a guy in market FORCING some dude into buying NEX even though he clearly wanted Canon DSLR – but the guy was so insisting on getting NEX sold that the customer left irritated.
That’s the typical NEX fanboy picture – FORCING everyone around into NEXes insisting how the low weight, small size and APS-C sensor are ultimate goals in the camera. *facepalm*
“Hardly any AF lenses? I thought we were talking about entry-level here. The current native lineup is more than adequate for the majority of consumers purchasing an entry-level APS-C camera” – remind me which cheap 70-300mm AF lens are they suppose to use?
Wait… there isn’t one!
How about cheap 50mm prime? Wait, it’s twice the price of the one for A-mount!
No, the line-up isn’t adequate for entry-level customers.
No, I don’t think that at all – you’re just paranoid because you feel that your A-mount investment is threatened. Unfortunately many people don’t have a clue what they need, never mind what other people think they need.
Weird, I saw someone being sold a Nikon DSLR the other day. He didn’t have a clue and would have been much better served with an entry-level mirrorless camera, but the salesman didn’t seem to want to make him aware of their existence. I’m not trying to force anything, and I’m not an NEX fanboy (I use A-mount too), but the fact is that low weight, small size and APS-C sensor IS a solution for a lot of people. Way too many people buy an entry level DSLR, never change the kit lens and leave it on auto – it is overkill for a lot of people.
There is a cheap 30mm prime (Sigma) – a much more useful focal length. The 55-210mm is fairly cheap, especially when bundled, and it’s stabilised. OK it’s not 300mm, but cheap 300mm zooms tend to be awful.
Really, stop with this juvenile *facepalm* and crying fanboy crap. Time to grow up, boy.
It’s a good thing that the A58 is priced closer to the Nikon 3200 than the 5200.
The Lotus Eater – how about stopping this patronizing tone? And actually discussing the topic instead of dodging it like you did here?
And You tell me to grow up? Who needs to grow up, huh?
“Unfortunately many people don’t have a clue what they need” – yes, that’s why they consult with friends, read books, or websites with tutorials. And guess where they end up? In buying one of three lenses: 50mm prime, 70-300mm zoom or 18-200/2xx zoom. These are either twice the price on E-mount comparing to A-mount or not available at all.
“He didn’t have a clue and would have been much better served with an entry-level mirrorless camera” – if he didn’t have a clue with entry-level DSLR he wouldn’t have a clue with entry-level NEX or other mirrorless. Both of these got Auto mode and both of these operate in many ways very similarly (only mirrorless cameras usually got by far more obscure menu than DSLR)
“I’m not an NEX fanboy (I use A-mount too)” – I’d say something quite contrary. And the fact you use A-mount too doesn’t change anything. Look at Frank. He’s got A77 and yet is next to you the most vocal NEX guy we have.
“but the fact is that low weight, small size and APS-C sensor IS a solution for a lot of people” – a perfect reason why they should have bought a COMPACT POINT&SHOOT with APS-C sensor. Not only it’ll have far easier and more accessible interface, but also it’ll offer lighter body and brighter lens than mirrorless.
“Way too many people buy an entry level DSLR, never change the kit lens and leave it on auto – it is overkill for a lot of people.” – according to Sigma representatives – the people who buy mirrorless are exactly who you describe here. Those who buy their entry-level DSLRs are far more likely to buy additional lenses than if they’d go elsewhere.
“He’s got A77 and yet is next to you the most vocal NEX guy we have.”
I think that’s his own peculiar way of crying out to the heavens rather than a case of being particularly pro-NEX.
“The Lotus Eater – how about stopping this patronizing tone?”
There is nothing more patronizing than facepalms and crying fanboy. Practice what you preach.
“And actually discussing the topic instead of dodging it like you did here?”
I haven’t dodged anything – it’s usually you that does the dissapearing act. It’s difficult to discuss anything with somebody who is so set in their ways and is so defensive towards their equipment investment. Unfortunately you are unable to conduct a discussion without crying fanboy when somebody happens to disagree with you.
“And You tell me to grow up? Who needs to grow up, huh?”
As I said before, you do.
How about A65 successor? Are they going to make one?
Yes, it will come and that will be the real A57 upgrade.
What about cheap FF, similar to 6D an D600? Have Sony any plans to do it?
hope to see an a65 successor.
I think the A65 will be like the A450. A bit of an oddity in the line-up, never to be repeated.
I think it needs to be repeated. There is too big a gap in spec between the A58 and A77.
However, they could of course be limiting their DSLT lineup in order to shift resources to NEX.
Nail on the head with your last line. 😉
The A65 had one big issue: no AF micro-adjustment… it is the only reason I regret buying it. If they repeat it they should absolutely fix this.
Can’t wait for the A77
Successor!!! A few more months wait.
ADMIN:
No new hints that there is coming new 70-200/2.8 G II?
In summer with A78?
Next year with FF stuff?
this year. But let me confirm it later because Sony is redoing the A-mount roadmap right now…
They have a A-mount ROADMAP??? Stop teasing us!
Thank’s
So I am keep on waiting!
😀 Any leaks on the roadmap would be greatly appreciated! 🙂
+10^100
The roadmap shows this at the end: T
😛
Nah the roadmap will say, leave highway at NEXt exit. 😀
lol. Next trolling again, huh? go away! 😉
You are the very last person that should passing judgement on trolling. Your anti-NEX agenda is hardly veiled.
Exactly like your Pro-NEX 🙂 I’m here just to balance you out. 😉
Frank_Stalker is my personal bitch who follows me around. It’s cute.
There are people like Frank_Stalker who don’t understand the difference between expressing an opinion and trolling. These people accuse anybody who has a differing opinion of being a troll.
Frank_Stalker has some sort of mental fixation on those who believe that Sony are concentrating their efforts on NEX. This translates to being a troll in Frank_Stalkers little World.
It’s really quite odd.
Sad but true.
Unfortunately, it seems the definition of trolling can be applied to anyone making a post in a blog that is in anyway critical of the view of the majority of the readers of the site.
SAR is a Sony camera fanboy site, and believe it or not, I’m a Sony fanboy.
But even a fanboy should have the right, if not an obligation, not only to faun over the product but also to point-out what can and should be done to make the product better.
Maybe the Internet has room for a new description other than troll to describe someone who posts an augmentative point of view as a discussion and not to promote a verbal fight.
So, these monkeys still think about their hopeless A-mount that no one beside sony zealots needed as a flagship? That’s pity.
Incipiently, SLT-a57 is one of the best rated DSLRs ever.
Unfortunately, in a market that is dominated by two players the average consumer never notices the other options – even if superior. A Mount is probably on the way out, but I think it will be a long road to get there. At the moment it seems like Sony is still backing A Mount and that is good.
Roadmap?
Did I hear A-mount roadmap?
Make believe…
Yeah any beginners that ask I tend to point them to the Nex 3 range. Most want something light for travel that takes good pictures and lets them play with “settings” later on.
I wonder if they’ll fix the A77 flash overexposure problem on the A78. I was hoping the latest firmware had slipped in a quiet fix, but nope, last weekend I still had anywhere between -1 and -2 compensation *sigh*.
Really? Since I updated, I have not had any overexposure problems. Well, a few exposures has been slightly off, but not like before. I use a F58AM on my A77.
+1. Appears fixed for me as well,
According to Gary Friedman it’s fixed.
http://friedmanarchives.blogspot.fi/2013/02/flash-exposure-problems-fixed.html
If you actually READ it, it does not.
“This doesn’t address the flash overexposure problem (as the grey card test shots indicate) – it addresses rampant shot-to-shot inconsistency of the flash, plus really bad overexposure of the background when used as a fill. As the blog post points out, the flash is still a little hot which is why I set my flash exposure compensation to -0.7 (or more).”
Inconsistency was the biggest problem with A77 flash. There is nothing more frustrating than inconsistency and that is what has been fixed.
Having to dial in a bit of negative flash compensation is not such a big issue.
Oh well that’s ok then, Sony don’t need to acknowledge the problem or fix it, we will just stick with negative ev on our expensive cameras and flashes. FFS…
I didn’t say it was OK, but a large problem has been resolved. The unpredictable nature of the flash was a huge problem. Gary Friedman seems happy.
Oh so Gary Friedman is happy, so THAT’S okay then…
Not to mention that Gary Friedman, who is somewhat of an authority on the A77 and this issue, said it is fixed on his A77.
Read this:
“This doesn’t address the flash overexposure problem (as the grey card test shots indicate) – it addresses rampant shot-to-shot inconsistency of the flash, plus really bad overexposure of the background when used as a fill. As the blog post points out, the flash is still a little hot which is why I set my flash exposure compensation to -0.7 (or more).”
Good for you.
I think the negative exposure compensation is a Sony thing. I usually have my A35 set at -0.7 or -1.0 when using the flash. Sounds like the consistency was fixed for A77
Canon problem, too.
Once again i ask sony please give us a really high res camera
There is nothing out there and you will own the market.
Step up your nex 7 c 24mp tois 54mp ff ir 81mp ff sguare.
Make it mirrorless and no aafilter.
In the a mount version include stabilzation.
You have the technology just scale it up.
24mp fans have lots of cameras to choose from.
Give us one choice at least.
Somehow I wonder who will want to buy these products. Just seems that the previous versions weren’t selling at all. So now what?
BINGO! Sony is aware and is just pumping out what they currently have in previously invested R&D. It’s changing…
Same old NEX … Lots of camera bodies, and too few good, interesting lenses. I’m done waiting for Sony, moving to MFT instead. Sorry. NEX is great tech but just not a well planned system.
Tired old argument. The lens lineup has increased hugely over the last year and more are being released soon.
“hugely” is not the word I’d use. It’s nowhere near the lineup of m4/3 and that’s nowhere near even a lineup of Pentax, not to mention A-mount.
Yes, and MFT had a two year head start (with two manuafacturers on board) and A-mount 25-years.
Come on, stop being ridiculous. You can’t honestly expect Sony to compete in numbers with those two systems after two-and-a-half years.
I don’t. But I’m not afraid to call things by their name: Lens lineup is tiny and nowhere near anything you could describe with a word “hugely”.
Any word on the pixel count? I’d settle for 24mp with an extra 1/3 stop of dynamic range if they’re going for on-sensor pdaf… Upgraded evf sound good too!
Really excited about the prospect of an a-mount road map – it would definitely help calm some of the panic!
If they’d release less bodies and focus more on lenses. 😛 I know, I know… hopefully they’ll have a fleshed-out lens selection within a couple more years.
Yeah, you’re just so right, aren’t you! Well, hate to burst your bubble head, but here it goes…
Canon M lenses = 3
Nikon J lenses = about the same
Looks like Sony is blowing them away.
What matters the most to me is the pricing. Hopefully it will priced similarly to how a77 was launched. Or else, I might wait for the a77 to get a price slashed.
Admin, does this mean the A58 has the same sensor as a77 and NEX 7n? You mentioned the a58 is a new 24mp sensor so would this be the same one used in the new cams?
No, the A58 sensor tech is the same. The pixel number is different.
Well, the old 16 and 24 MPx sensors were supposed to be the same tech as well – we all know how it ended.
What I sadly notice is that the nex 7n will not be announced in early April (SR5) anymore but “may be announced in April” (SR4).
16bit RAW is needed!!
Why exactly?
I’d have to agree, too. Even 14bit is more than your human eyes can perceive. I’d hate to think of how deeply you squish your RAW files with 16.
Sony would be (totally) crazy to design the Zeiss 50 1.4 and 70-400 G II then drop the A-mount…
You mean like they’d be crazy to drop the iISO shoe? Sony do crazy things.
Try not to think of it as dropped… more like transcended but forward compatible.
Sounds like marketing spin.
The optics of the 70-400G II is the same as the 70-400G. Sony did not just design that lens, it’s a old, but good design with little more than a new decal on it.
What Sony is not doing is increasing the diversity of lenses in either it’s A or E mount systems.
Just how many 35mm and 50mm lenses does a person need in their system? Putting out more of those is just stagnation.
The 70-400 is old…?
What would that make my 28/2 and 35/1.4?
+1. Mr WK, I totally agree with you sir. Sony made three emount 18-200mm lenses with no optic improvement. It is really a joke! Too much lenses between 24mm to 50mm prime in the market! Sony expect us to buy and bring how many prime lenses out!
Full frame NEX in 2014, and the next A-mount full frame in 2015. Le sigh.
You know Carl, Sony literally cannot afford to announce a FF Alpha replacement any sooner. It would demolish the already dismal sales of existing product. Dealers would be forced to slash prices sooner than later, and that would have profound implications of them supporting the future brand offerings.
Probably won’t see new Alpha FF until after Hassy goes Lunar with current… Interesting business model… a buyout for old stock guaranteed, with all the class of scribbling lipstick on a pig.
Who needs announcements when you have rumours?
I’d hardly say a full frame every 2 1/2 years is a serious issue for Sony when they seem to pump out a new NEX-3 every ten months.
14 bit raw is necessary for A78 at least
I bet A78 will start with price above Nikon D600 in Europe, and NEX-7n close to it. 🙂
I honestly doubt NEX-7n will be over $2k, and I don’t see /why/ it will be more expensive than the NEX-7.
And after announced…..You can buy them,!!!!!like at christmas. hooorrrayyy…..pitty,Sadly so slow…… 😛
lucky me , I don’t have to buy them if the sensor is the same crappy 24mp APS-C……..I just keep shooting my NEX7 , D800E and a99v.
thanks Sony, now you need to come out with a NEX type of camera with the RX-1 sensor.
Does this mean, there will be no nex5 or nex6 successors with the new sensor technology this year?
Any hints concerning the af speed of the nex7n???
Hi Admin,
can you clarify – the full frame stuff you mention due early 2014… is that NEX or Alpha you are talking about?
and is that when they will announce it or release it? 2 very different things lol
thanks
simon
He means the NEX-9 or whatever name the marketing department give it.
It’ll hit the market early-’14 according to his sources. It may get an announcement late this year, though, especially if Samsung already have their version on the market by then.
thanks carl.
I recall earlier rumours suggesting that the next FF SLR/T won’t be until 2014 either – so it looks like the entire FF suite [NEX/SLR/T] won’t be till next year.
As long as they announce them later this year, and release early 2014 I’ll be happy. One of each please 🙂
I heard there may be a fast and expensive zoom lens.
WOW ,WOW,WOW,WOW, WOW. My dreams come true .
well i thought sony was killing the a3x but it seems more likely that they have desided that you are entry level or semi pro or FF user.
i cant see how the price gap from the A58 at 600$ to the A78 (likly 1400$) can be done.
entry level should have been NEX 3 (or mirrorless Amount in A33/55 body ) 4-600$
A57-A65 replacement in 600 (body) – 900$ then the
the A78 can be the top tier crop camera and demand the 12-1400$ (a great option less you really need the FF body of the A99)
Maybe the A78 is going to be dumbed down to reduce the price gap.
hope not but thats not for my sake (woudl love a A6x in my price range ) making the A78 a lower tier SLT is about as smart as “spending ones way out of debt ”
on the other side maybe its sonys plan for the new tiers (low 600 mid 1200 and high 2400$) i thinki see some pattern forming 🙁
Any news on AF speed and accuracy? Is it comparable to NEX-6, OM-D, Nikon 1 or DSRL?
If the A78 has the same sensor and viewfinder as the A77, I hope its AF at least is greatly improved to justify the upgrade… Other welcome modifications: better performances in high ISO, dual memory cards, better ergonomy (pad instead of joystick for example)…
Can’t wait to see what the RX10 will be about. if its a 50mm I can use that and a wide angle on my nex-6 for event work.
hmm.., so NEX-7x sensor will have on-sensor PDAF, and a78 will use the same sensor? Will a78 use on-senor or hybrid PDAF? It would be pretty odd if no – why have 2 PDAF sources? And if yes, well, why have the mirror?
It would depend on speed and accuracy of the sensor AF.
RX10 and RX200 with build in EVF would be delicious 😀
If there’s going to be an expensive zoom lens, and if it happens to be for NEX. I think we all know its that “High Performance Standard Zoom G lens.” hopefully WS and a 10/10 quality lens & value(not over priced). Standard zoom? Is that another 18-55 or 16-50? How about like 24-85G F2.5 or 35-135G F2.8 I’m sure Sony could stuff it in a 7.75″ barrel (who cares if its a little big, what about quality/LLP Low Light Performance).
Is the G lens for E-mount or A mount?
20-60f28 ould be sweet. Everything else might be too big.
yeah bc I find that 55 is sometimes not enough. The subject either walks, runs, crawls, swims, or flies away. I don’t see 60mm being much further than 55mm its only 5mm more hahaha X-D aaaahhaha ToT
honestly I haven’t used my kit lens for a while now. Ever since I stuck that 35F1.8 on my NEX-7. I’m getting a bit nervous. I hope the G lens or 85F1.8 comes out soon. My cousins wedding is coming up in June and the kit lens would be my last priority to use. That lens turns off all the light in the building at 55 lol. Its interesting I posted my black kit lens on craigslist one day and I got an instant buyer but I didn’t sell it after doing some searches and found out that the stores only sell silver models. Holding it till I See the G or 85. Or should I sell it?
I sell every kit lens I ever had I think the only good kit lens was the one that came with the A77. I would sell it and get a manual focus lens if nothing else comes out before you need it. You can start practicing now, Mf is not so bad
I have used manual focus several times, like when auto focus can’t seem to focus on something too close. Also when it snowed I took some awesome shots some are perfect background wallpaper . I shoot M(full control) and DMF all the time.
I see this as reasonably good news–why re-engineer perfectly good components, which can be used profitably in different form factors?
Also, I don’t think there should be an A3x. It would be an afterthought-kind of camera, cheap and very likely to fail, and occasion buyer’s remorse, unless there are obvious things that could be removed from an A5x without compromising basic integrity, and without requiring any re-design whatsoever.
Maybe there should be only 3 SLR-form-factor A-mount camera bodies, A5x, A7x, and A9x. Based on what was left off the A900 to make the A850, I think that a single FF A-mount, with better-defined engineering design choices, would suffice–again, unless the strip-down is a simple matter of removing a component and disabling a section of code, and nothing else–but in that situation, a purchaser should be given a plug-in and download upgrade path to the fully-featured version.
Same logic for the NEX range.
IMHO!
p.s.–That way, Sony would really only be designing 2 cameras for the Alpha line, and 2 cameras for the NEX line, each body with modularized componentry that can be removed or replaced (to the extent that this is possible, and if originally engineered with that goal, it is much more achievable), and with some shared componentry across the 2 lines, e.g. sensors and OVF.
These cameras as well as the new full frames sony is plannig are just small improvements to the same old cameras that have been around for years. In todays economy they will not sell.
Take the same sensor you plan to put in these cameras and scale it up to ff.
Result would be a 54mp camera that people will actually want.
I don’t understand why sony keeps trying to convince us (unsuccessfully of course) to buy this crap.
Sony build us a real camera before it’s too late. You have the tech. Where is your common sense.
People will always debate whether or not we need more megapixels, as they always have, but people will always buy more megapixels as they always have.
E-mount 85mm prime maybe? I think I read something about a 85mm here before.
You mean a 57mm E mount lens, which would equate to the standard portrait length of 85?
No E-mount 85mm. SR4 rumor some time ago:
http://www.sonyalpharumors.com/sr4-sony-will-announce-a-new-85mm-f1-8-e-mount-lens-soon/
I’m sorry! but frank, is bad medicine, as his assumption are not based on any evidence, of what Sony is doing. It’s a Clanging Gong.
Evidence? This is a RUMOUR site, the clue is in the name xxx.
don’t write badwords 🙂
Why is a sony 24mp camera like an a**hole ?
Because everyone has one!
Sony stop being like everyone.
Scale this sensor up to full frame 54 megapixel
You have the technology. Make a camera that people will actually want to buy!!!
Why do you keep repeating yourself?
BTW, I have not seen much demand for an APS-C 54mp camera.
You will!!
Not long ago people will were arguing we don’t need more than 3 megapixels.
The new video standar recently approved is 8k
24 mp will not even match the resolution of your new tv.
These cameras were innovations in thier time. That time is over they are obsolete now or will be soon.
Sony can’t keep selling the same stuff.
Most importly.
Produce a 54mpcamera
Because sony keeps repeating itself by making the same stuff that no one is buying.
Sony seems to have a real hard time listening to what its customers are saying.
The only way I could can think of getting thier attention is to keep repeating myself.
BTW That was fullframe 54mp which does not require new technology. Not c which does.
A 54MP aspc? No thanks! I want to use it in other than bright sunlight and get good picture quality! Hasselblad medium format cams have 40-50MP, only a maniac would put 54MP in an aspc with the present technology…
I was talking about full frame 54mp. This will indeed work with todays technology be ause it is identical on pixel density to a 24mp c size sensor. It will also work with many current full frame lenses.
When all your friends have one will you be the only one without?
scaling up the 24mp aps-c to FF would actually result in a 56mp sensor. remember though that the s77/nex7 24mp sensor is heavily criticized for noisyness. a 10mp aps-c sensor would have the same pixel size as the d600/a99. I’d love to see one of those in a nex! just imagine – the low light master! (I’m not into big prints fyi)
I understand that not evryone needs high mp all the time but almost everyone would like it sometimes.
The a77 and nex7 are good cameras.
I would certainly like to have a high megapixel camera of that quality in my toolbag
Most of us have more than one camera body.
Certainly a camera like that should be one of them.
I hope the “It looks like all the more advanced and Full Frame stuff is coming form early 2014” is referring to Alpha and not NEX…
Someone already asked Admin to clarify…
Admin: Please clarify…
oh, admin has been very clear lately about this: the next FF camera will be a NEX with integrated a-mount compatibility, somehow.
no rumors yet about any alpha ff body. rather the opposite – they have ditched at least one of their prototypes.
They expect us all to sit around the bonfire with our A99s, singing Kumbaya.
LOL!
Also… A few things for the lost…
1)With the a58 being so cheap, there is no need for a 3 series…
(It only needed the ‘old’ flash mount, Nobody wanted to buy a $600.00 camera and have to buy a $600.00 flash when they already own a $400.00+ Sony flash)
2) The idea of a Nex was to be compact and still have good image results.. there is no need for it to be FF to have good image result, and if it is FF I’m sure it will be less compact, so what is the point? The lenses you already own for your nex will not be optimized for the FF Nex… if they produce a FF Alpha that is worthy of buying, at least alpha owners probably have FF lenses, unlike the Nex owners who have NONE… People who want FF compacts are the new ‘Hipsters’ of ‘Photographers’ they want to be “Hip” to say they won a FF Compact, but again, What is the point???
(They already have the RX1 for that)
Just because you like your current ‘cheap’ Nex don’t mean people will buy a very ‘ expensive’ one just because it says Nex (With way less options) on the body, and not Alpha.
3) Sony Remixing the 24mp camera over and over is getting pretty old… I don’t mind it being 24MP, but make it worth an update unlike all the other Re-mixes they came out with..
4) Sony REALLY does need a better FF Alpha body, to at least justify buying the 60 flash…
The a99 and a a58 are definitely NO reason to also want to purchase a $600.00 flash as well…
*own
“so what is the point?”
Because people *want* it, not because they *need* it. A Corolla is faster than 99% of the market drives, but that doesn’t stop people buying sports/touring cars. They are what is known as an aspirational product.
I hear you on the better full frame body, but I’m not sure Sony does.
I still think there is room for an A3x. Think of a really cheap body, around €300 or less. Very basic, using plastic mount and the cheaper A33/A55 EVF, no screw drive motor. This means only lenses with own focus motor have autofocus, but Sony is putting a focus motor in more and more of their APS-C lenses anyway.
Please bring more news about RX10 and RX200 if you can!
Sounds perfect. 24mp FF sensor is a sweet spot of resolution vs. noise/ISO right now.
http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/post/50983826
SONY 2013 E-MOUNT
Man! i need $$$$$ T_T
High performance standard zoom — (24-70/2.8-4 G OSS ???) <—INTERESTED
High magnification zoom — (70-300/4-5.6 OSS ???) <—INTERESTED
Mid magnification zoom — (24-135/3.5-6.3 OSS ???)
Large aperture standard — (50/1.4 OSS ???)
Middle telephoto — (85 / 1.8 OSS ???). <—INTERESTED
Also adapters:
VCL-ECU (12mm)
VCL-ECF (10mm)
nothing that we didn’t already know but here’s the size comparison. Sigma updated lenses 19mm, 30mm, 60mm.
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-yaXsXJ2OiNE/UQgAQqvaxdI/AAAAAAAAEpw/UZvnPtk81yo/s1600/NEX-7_Sigma-Art-Macro-DN-Lenses.jpg either the 19mm is just photoshopped or that is a very bad empty space between the lens and mount ring for dust to get inside the camera. No manual focus.
So,this is mean that the a78 has a new focus system just very same as a99, and no more improvement. It can be accepted.
Hopefully less noise too!