Now that’s a surprise. According to Nikonrumors there will be a new “hybrid” Full Frame camera from Nikon within the next 2-3 months! It is yet not clear if that’s a mirrorless camera and if it has an interchangeable mount. The “hybrid” could refer to a sort of hybrid viewfinder tech like the one used by Fuji’s X-PRO1. There are the possible specs:
- 16,2MP 36×23,9 full frame sensor (same as in the D4?)
- SD memory card
- 2016-pixel RGB image sensor
- 9-cell framing grid display
- 3D color matrix metering II
- Native ISO range: 100-12800 (incl. ISO 50 and ISO 108,200)
- 5.5 fps for up to 100 shots
- 3.2″ LCD screen
- Battery:EN-EL14
- Dimensions: 143,5 x 110 x 66,5mm
- Weight: 765g
- It will come with a new AF-S Nikkor 50mm f/1.8G lens (again, not clear what mount the new lens will have)
UPDATE: False alarm! Nikonrumors corrected his rumor and now states that the Camera is an F-mount camera and not a mirrorless camera!
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So – should we expect something like Nikon FM4d ? 🙂 The weight would suggest that it is not going to be something along Sony A7 or RX1. The 3D colour matrix metering probably needs some sort of mirror (if not implemented directly on the sensor)
curios, curios …
Hmmm…doesn’t sound like a direct competitor to a7. I think the ‘winning’ design is small body and pancake lenses.
and sony sure dont have those 😉 look at that 55 1.8: really??? so biiig
I know 🙁 perhaps the flange distance of sony makes it difficult to build pancakes, dunno.
I think the main strenght of aps-c system from samsung (nx) are the pancakes (10,16,20 and 30mm) plus the not pancake but rather small 45mm lens. I’d like similar sized lenses (perhaps just a bit bigger) for ff systems as well.
Interesting…. Nikon will have to be careful not to damage their DSLR sales with this and the execution has to be perfect. If they go with retro design they validate their competitors, also it looks like they may be spreading themselves thinly unless they discontinue some other lines….
Sony will attack strongly with marketing and deals with their adapters (maybe for free) etc
Dimensions -> rather big for mirrorless
And heavy, looks like Nikon still not brave enough to lose the mirror….
Why Canon is still sleeping? They must do FF too!
Canon is sleeping in sensor development since 6 years. Nikon is doing better with building bodies around Sony hardware…
Oh yes the MIGHTY sony sensors…but don’t the d7100 and d5300 use Toshiba sensors? And the inferior (sarcasm alert) D4 use an Aptina sensor which this FMD will use too. Thanks be to Sony! All Hail Mighty Sony producer of Japanese optics for…well Nikon was making cameras when Sony’s founders were wearing shorts. It’s an optical company! Check out their steppers!
Toshiba makes good sensor too, just like Sony. Nikon makes fanboys who defend whatever Nikon does.
This is pure speculation. Rumors along these lines have come up before so don’t get too excited just yet. That being said, Nikon, if you are reading this, PLEASE can we have an F-Mount FM3D..? Thank you..!
haha If that is truth looks like dinosaur doesn’t want to die 😀
I am Not only talking about dated sensor but also weight and size… It would make the sense only if price was lower than sony’s 7 and existing nikkor glass would fit.
Dinosaur?
That dinosaur will hit market and hit hard. Wanna bet? 🙂
@Stephen
Funny that I remember the same being said about Nikon 1 and Canon EOS M. These are different times my friend….
IMHO everything will sale at right price even canon m and nikon 1
That dinosaur will hit market and hit hard. Wanna bet? 🙂
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I guess you are right, its enough for many consumers out there that it will carry a name NIKON (no offece) 🙂
fuji x200 too far,but new player will disclosed he he he
it ‘s not easy Sony .
It seems that it has been cleared out, it’s not mirrorless, it has pentaprism and OVF, standard F-mount. It seems that the main feat if the ability to meter even NON-AI lenses.
Maybe Hybrid means hybrid cdaf pdaf, Maybe more a FF EM-1, or an A7 competitor with a more reasonable mount distance.
well that is definately a wrong rumor.. trust me.
Don’t understand the specs. Why would anyone start with an FM2? The pentaprism is not necessary. Better to start with the SP. (It would be lovely to keep the rangefinder as will as the OVF, but wont hold my breath) Use the sensor from the 800e, add in body stabilization, and please lower the low end of the ISO range to 25.
Pentaprism is necessary for F-mount which was optimized for mirror. Nikon won’t introduce a new mount since it will be a disaster for Nikon’s users and million of F-mount lenses in users hand nowadays.
I really hope it has the look of the ancient Nikon s3 or sp! While canon revive it’s P or 7 series. 😉
Well Sony needs buyers fir its FF sensors.
Thats why they made a7’s in the first place! 😛
I hope the 16MP rumor is wrong.
No harm in 36Mp and downsizing for better apperance in sharpnesd and noise.
If I want 16, i can stay at M43.
Even they will be 20-24 in the next 2 years.
Most likely it will be a 16MP sensor and 1″ area. Another “1” system cam. LOL
hey MP fanboy ever tried the d4 or 1dx? its something that can eat your crappy sony in 1/8000s without blinking
It won’t be any FF 16mp sensor. It will be the one from D4. Would you rather have some other cheaper ones instead?
@kickars
well if they don’t give it D4 pricing or similar then the D4 owners will be annoyed, if they do give it D4 pricing then it will fail against the competition.
It also seems way too heavy against the recently announced Sony A7, sounds like a fixed LCD screen?
go buy sony, so you will have a nice camera and… a nice camera…. 0 lenses!!! yea now you tell me to adapt lens and maybe do manual focus… like in 1920 so i can take my coach or my steam train and be cool
Non-photographers like you need to get this: a camera is much more than a sensor with some UI built around. So there’d be no reason for D4 owners to be miffed.
Here is a shoebox with a sensor inside: wanna buy it? DXOMark says, it craps on Sony and Panasonic toys by 1.23%. Are you going to buy it? I supposed so.
Great! I hate swivel screens. Enjoy your sony I will pre order this FMD as a journalistic camera to complement my d800. It uses the same lenses. I know Sony fanboys can you imagine all that compatibility with nikkors from the 1950s to today’s nano coated G lenses! Without colour shift! Or smearing!
I really miss my fm2 nikons. I had two black body’s and they were my first professional cameras when I start my business 20 years ago. Now I have nice cameras but none of them are special like those! Use camon now but they are just work cameras, don’t get me wrong they are great cameras and they get the job done. Maybe bc the fm2s were my first. And I used to have a couple of 60ct1 Metz flashes which I found a few weeks ago a sold on ebay.
I am looking for that camera that I love to just have with me and travel with, without getting in the way. I think it could be the sony a7 who knows
With a 16mp sensor there will be tons of resolution…beyond both D800 and Sony 7r……
No, LESS resolution. Go back to school.
Yes, I know. I was meant to be ironic 😉
If the weight and dimensions are anything to go by it will be a fixed lens zoom “bridge” like the RX-10 soo… how about Nikon CX-10 :p
There is no reason why a F-mount camera shouldn’t be mirrorless. Nikon was first with PDAF on a system camera sensor and I’d expect F-mount cameras to go mirrorless when Nikon feels the technology i mature.
Wow, competition is good. Now I would hold my order to A7 to see what Nikon would offer. I still own a FM2 and love to see its digital version. 16MP FF is good to me. All my AIS lenses are small enough 🙂
“2016-pixel RGB image sensor” should tell you that it is SLR.
And EN-EL14 battery is the same medium-capacity battery used in D3200. Meaning they prepare something below D610. D500?
A mirrorless 16mp FF camera will have excelent high ISO performance, much better than a 36mp DSLR. The average user doesn’t need more than 16-20mp out af a MFT/APS-C or FF senzor! If Nikon adds some new/redesigned lenses with great optical quality like: 24mm f1.8, 35mm f1.8, 135mm f2.8 VR, 14-24 f4 VR, 24-70 f4 VR (all FX lenses) it will have a winner!
If the past is any indication of future results, a FF 36 and 16MP sensor yield the same high ISO
DXO’s sports ISO:
D800E: 2979
D800: 2853
D4: 2965
Depends. A new FF with the new Expeed 4 processor will surely have better high ISO performance.
Look out, the legend “fewer pixels, better high ISO” is fallen out of favour. You can find some studies that prove it wrong, somewhere in the net.
Yes, it’s wrong for a simple reason. Yes pixels are smaller when you increase mega pixels. That means per pixel noise is higher. But the plus is that there are more pixels. That means when you view the images at equal size (like on screen or same size print) the noise difference is eliminated, as downsizing an image reduces noise. For higher MP camera you are downsizing from a larger image.
That’s why D4 doesn’t score higher in low light than D800 in dxomark.
More correctly, it would be a modern FE, not FM. FE was their first aperture priority auto exposure camera, FM was always full manual. I still have an original FM. In retrospect, it is remarkable how easy it was to quickly set exposure with the FM series.
As far as I read in other sites this will not be a mirrorless camera. Hence I was fancying about an A900 with a modern 16-24 MP sensor for low light shooting (like in an underground train). Now it is possible that Nikon will realize this dream.
Ha ha, rebadged Sony A7, here we come!
I would wager it will work a lot better than the Sony A7 I have yet to see one decent shot from it
That’s either a fault of your eyes or person who took the pictures.
You are an idiot if you think a camera with full-frame Sony sensor in 2013 won’t be able to take decent photo. These cameras will in be in top 5 Dxomak — certainly higher than D4 sensor
Some of us Nikon FX guys who’ve been around a while (i.e, we used to own FM2, FE, F3, etc.) would love to have a smaller body 16MP FX camera that is stripped down.
It would be great if it had one of the hybrid viewfinders that Nikon has patented that has a mirror, but also and EVF when the mirror is up, thus allowing the goodness of both systems.
Will it come true? I guess we’ll have to find out in a few weeks to a few months.
F-mount has nothing to do with being a mirrorless camera or not. You can have the F-mount and not have a mirror.
That would be really sweet! Was just reminiscing with a friend over shooting 35mm back in the day and was looking at the FM cameras. After all these years that, IMHO, is a way more attractive camera than anything “big and digital” today. For the most part, I really don’t need all the features (maybe because I don’t know what most of them actually do). Just want a camera that has an excellent sensor, good range and high shutter speed in a smaller body like my OM-D EM-5. Bring on the full sensor in that size camera!