Well, we are slowly getting a clear picture about what’s coming.
1) Sony will focus on their A-mount stuff and “only” announced lenses for their mirrorless system (Zeiss Loxia and “normal” FE Sony lenses).
2) Panasonic will announce the LX1000 (fixed lens) and GM2 4K capable cameras
3) Olympus will announced the E-Pl7 today and is coming with a Silver E-M1 and new 40-150mm Pro lenses in a few days.
4) Canon/Nikon: Nothing serious on the horizon
5) Fuji “could” but also “could not” showcase a prototype of the 2015 X-PRO 2
So what could become the big hit at Photokina? Well it will come from an unexpected company: Samsung!
I have been told by sources the camera has the potential to become the best APS-C camera on market. It has a terrific EVF, over 10fps, brand new close to 30MP sensor and fastest AF on market. It looks like a modern camera (no retro style says redcrow).
I really can’t wait to learn more about that camera….
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I really am becoming fed up of this play along the Samsung tune. We all know about the new sensor, the amoled finders and the amazIng connectivity that it will have, so what? All this because of an APS-C câmera when the world is fast moving to FF? Get a grip, this is no case for hysteria ute#
Actually, till now, the evf in nx cameras have been sub par compared to those in Sony and Fuji. And so the IQ at high Iso and the Dr. Besides, they are very slow in operations, AF, buffer (again compared to nearest competitors).
So I’ll believe the new nx1 is the best aps-c when I see it.
And your remark about ff (even if, IMO, only partially true) is important for the price point. Samsung can’t hope to sell an aps-c camera at much more than 1000$ (as good as it can be) when ff alternatives are cheaper and cheaper. Especially since a lot of ppl are NOT going to consider a Samsung camera at this level, unless it’s a bargain.
With an history of sub-par products, it would be expected that this camera will be their best and as the most recent APS-C mirrorlessit should also be the best, it is the normal logic. Will they sell it for less than 1000€? I don’t think so, the market for high end APS-C cameras is evaporating, much more for a brand that has no recognition in the market. Sony did not replace the Nex7, the market for an over the top APS-C is gone, that should have rang a few bells in Seoul. Don’t get me wrong, I have nothing against Samsung, I have plenty of appliances from them, but their approach to camera making is simply disastrous. They use the same logic as with phones or computers, photographers are a different breed. Here in old Europe, people are very attached to traditional names, that is why Lexus is not a success, even sold at half-price. Building a camera just rom acronyms is not enough, I’m afraid.
I agree on most. Especially where you say that they misunderstood the camera market completely.
They wanted to sell in the mirrorless market? They had to target enthusiasts, who could understand and appreciate a brand that has no roots in photography and rather are top in other technological fields.
To do that they had to:
– use the best hw available (making it a great performer, with huge and fast buffer, great IQ, great evf and display)
– make it aesthetically appealing, like Fuji and Sony did, instead of making big, ugly, DSLR like cameras
– price it wisely, say 10-20% lower than direct competitors, in other to gain market share (they could, after that, introduce models with higher price tags, once they had a decent penetration).
P.s. I’m used to get negatives, here, when I say fair things about samsung. Apparently some Samsung zombie is here. So I ask ppl that agree with me to vote in favour of all my posts. Thanks.
Well, then it will be a really boring PhotoKina….
Who is going to be interested in SamSuck?
I am fed up with this electronics giant trying to copy everything from everybody.
Although samsung entered the electronic industry in the 60s, Samsung is an industrial company really. Electronics (Vision, Photo, Mobile and white goods) is only one branch in the company tree
So far no Samsung release has excited me – and I have heard similar hype from them before – I guess all the manufactures do it – like Sony now with their A6000 auto focus – yes it is fast but not so much on moving objects as they advertise – the Panasonic GH4 and Fuji X-t1 do better
I suspect Canon might be coming out with a 5D M4 very soon – Nikon came out with the D800 and then the D810 – so Canon is overdue – and in a way amazing how little Canon has come out with in the higher end cameras – Nikon and Pentax have been busier
I think sensor technology as peeked for now – but still I think the manufacturers can improve on their bodies and features and Sony for sure on lenses for their E and FE mounts
So Samsung is out with a hype – but hard to get excited –
4) Canon/Nikon: Nothing serious on the horizon
Really, I think the new Canon 7D Mk II is about to be announced. Nikon will likely release a D750. Both will likely be very well received. I’m not in the market for either, but I suspect both will trump a Samsung announcement.
‘The biggest hit at Photokina?’
I honestly can’t imagine what will be exciting about either of those cameras, I guess for current 7D users who haven’t left and have been eagerly anticipating a replacement for the last 5 years.
I’ve just read an additional rumor, on DPR, which states that nx1 is even larger than nx30, which is already the largest aps-c mirrorless on the market (bigger than the ff a7 and x-t1). This imo defeats completely the advantage of a mirrorless system.
The funny part is that I remember a Samsung commercial, when they released the nx300, in which they stated that bigger is not always better 🙂
Look:
http://petapixel.com/2013/06/30/humorous-samsung-video-takes-on-the-perception-that-bigger-is-better/
Mirrorless is just a new technology, just as you have all shapes and kinds of SLR cameras you will with mirrorless too. Mirrorless cameras are more flexible in their designs (don’t have size limiting mirror box and optical viewfinder in them). If mirrorless is going to be the technology of choice going forward, you will have large mirrorless cameras as well as small mirrorless cameras.
The NX30 doesn’t feel any bigger than the A7, just a much better grip on it making it easier to use. It is also very light, so adds small amount of weight to a bag.
Biggest hit? Nope. Not even close. The E-PL7’s going to have more effect on the market. The NX1 will likely be the biggest flop given Samsung’s track record, poor distribution and level of visibility. It’ll probably be a solid body, but Samsung’s a non-entity at the enthusiast level. In terms of Mirrorless announcements, the A5100’s probably the most important announcement, barring Fuji actually announcing the X-Pro2
Canon’s got the 7DmII coming, which is quite possibly the most notable body coming for Photokina, certainly the most important APS-C announcement.
Nikon probably has the D750, if it’s a true D700 replacement it’s the most notable release, if it’s a lightweight action camera instead the 7D is probably a little more notable.
As a Samsung NX User ( NX11, NX20, NX30 ) I am really looking forward to the latest model. Sure, samsungs other models do have down sides but every camera has them. Samsung was along the first vendors to enter the market with mirrorless cameras. As far as I remember even first with aps-c. They do have some history in cameras along with Pentax and they had a different approach from the beginning in keeping the body dslr-like to address the photographers out there. Furthermore they were the first to introduce WIFI features in their mirrorless system and this is why I am really excited to see what will be next although they are quite bad in their advertisement and propagation but the cameras do their job quite well. Especially since they changed the buffer and the software of the latest models.
Some pics:
http://photorumors.com/2014/08/29/samsung-nx1-camera-teaser/
The grip looks a bit better than the ugly one in nx30. Let’s hope.