Sigma made a surprising announcement today! They announced the SD Quattro mirrorless system cameras with Foveon sensor and SA mount:
The Sigma Quattro SD:
- Two mode Autofocus system
- Mirrorless system, Dust & Splash magnesium alloy body
- Resolution equal to 39MP Bayer sensor on resolution testing
- Compact design similar to dp Quattro cameras
- SA mount
The Sigma SD Quattro H:
- Larger APS-H sensor
- Resolution equal to 51MP Bayer sensor on resolution testing
- Designed to take advantage of SGV lenses with great IQ
- SA mount
There is yet no info about price and shipment date of the camera. Here is the press text and some mroe images:
Ultimate image quality. Ultimate camera.
In developing any product, SIGMA always has a primary objective in mind: fundamental performance that gives everyone the opportunity to take the perfect photograph. Offering breathtaking resolution, rich gradations and colors, and exceptional realism, the Foveon X3 Quattro direct image sensor is a symbol of this never-ending pursuit of excellence. It delivers image quality so distinctively intense that even the temperature, humidity, and scent of a scene seem to impress themselves upon the viewer.
Presenting the ultimate digital camera experience, the new SIGMA sd Quattro series leverages the image quality of the Foveon X3 Quattro direct image sensor to build a complete system compatible with all SIGMA GLOBAL VISION high-performance interchangeable lenses. The sd Quattro series allows photographers to express themselves with even more freedom and precision.
Believing that the lens is the key to the photograph, SIGMA has created a new camera for the true photographic artist that leverages the power of high-quality lenses. Test its performance with your own hands and eyes—and be amazed.
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Is there like a “FullFrameRumors” site? I’m so tired of seeing this crop sensor crap.
Bigger sensor won’t make you a bigger man or better photographer you know 😉
but it will give you better control of DOF and works better with vintage glass
Being able to achieve less depth of field does not automatically equate to better. It depends entirely on your photography style and subject matter. There are various solutions (e.g. metabones speedbooster) to use old glass at native focal lengths on crop sensors.
I can’t disagree with you there. After spending a couple of years with APS-C, reverting to full frame felt like coming home to me. That is entirely subjective though
the more usable a camera is the better.
you maybe don´t need shallow DOF for your shooting style.
but who will complain when a camera offers it?
if you can have a racehorse and a workhorse in one.. who would complain?
people who only have a workhorse and being envy….!
The only people complaining are those obsessed with “full frame” sensors being the be all and end all of photography. Usually the kind of people who buy cameras on specs alone and do little but post blurry images of their pet cat.
You want shallow DOF, get a fast lense. IMO 1.4 is plenty enough.
I almost never use the USM 50mm at 1.2 or the 85mm at 1.2 its is just too dangerous and not my type of image anyway its to much of an “effect” and I am not a an “effect” photographer, which is the worst type out there. Plus I don’t want to stop down to get my DOF since I would have to lower my speed/increase my iso or both.
The better camera is the more specific camera, not the most usable. I have 7 camera systems and each have a specific goal and a specific feel and image quality.
Full Frame per se doesn’t mean anything, it refers to 24×36 film format. In this sense 24×36 would be small format vs medium and large format photography. So which one is the crop or the full ?
Larger sensor have bigger resolution, bigger files, better color rendition, thin DoF which can be an issue for precise focusing and usually lenses aren’t faster than F/2.8, (1.9 is the faster/rare aperture).
Smaller sensors have less of everything but more DoF but can compensate with faster apertures and have the advantage of larger DoF for still life and landscape/architecture.
In my opinion Sigma potentially created a game changer with a very special sensor, very similar to film in its organic architecture, the idea is growing and these two camera could be the future. Lets hope for the best in the test and reviews. I can’t wait.
This camera is not meant for you anyway, this is for artists.
I advice everyone to watch this video. FF vs crop is a lame thing to argue about.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PHYidejT3KY
English:
http://www.sigma-global.com/en/cameras/sd-series/
Wow.
no video lol
I would like to see a mft Version!
MFT is dead.
or at least dying a slow death….
Here comes to trolls.
check above
1. Look at the bought number of mft cameras and lenses. Do you think all these people didn’t make there choice without thinking? I see a great future!
2. The people can buy as much of there holy fullframe stuff as they want. But I can run around with my small exceptional equipment fitting to my needs. Have a look on the lenses not the camera bodies, this makes the difference!
3. I hate this stupid comments without any explanation and made just to raise conflicts. You are not able to think about your words, why should you be able to think even about a camera system?
A great (niche) future perhaps. I’d like to see Sigma start selling cameras in real quantities.
Reflex is dead…
Reflex is dead, yeah really! Photography is now a secular medium and from its start NONE of any of its system disappeared. Stick it inside your head. EACH system has a purpose, pro’s and con’s, there is not one system over another, there is photography.
yup
they STILL make buggy whips
Is what we’ve been constantly hearing for the last eight years, and yet it dominates still, with no nearer signs of imminent decease.
The body is heaven, the lens mount is hell. Both use SA mount which is the same as SD1M. I think it is a joke. My jaw drops to the ground.
you could pick up both their 1.8 zooms and have a great system. no, there’s not many great supertelephotos in this mount, but you won’t be shooting wildlife/sports with these cameras anyways.
not really. Sigma makes some pretty amazing glass on the ART series stuff. Also the previous DP lenses (non removable) were VERY nice to use. https://www.flickr.com/photos/_zprime/16284332875/
My eyes…
Do you think they started off designing this with an E-mount (to be used in conjunction with the MC-11 adapter), and then Sony told them to go F^@#& themselves… so instead they attached the ugly tube and made it SA-mount?
It seems odd that Sigma’s 4 mirrorless lenses cannot be used with this camera.
What a failure of camera design.
In fact, E-mount is an open source format which welcomes third-party developer to join. However, E-mount is certainly applicable on lenses but may not include camera system. You should find that alliance of M4/3 group is getting bigger but it is not the same case on E-mount. I don’t know is it a fear factor of Sony to let other manufacturers make E-mount camera.
“E-mount is an open source format”
Really? Where can I find the complete E mount specification?
You should contact Sony: http://support.d-imaging.sony.co.jp/www/e_mount/en/detail.html
How is the e-mount specification open source if I have to contact Sony?
It’s a cruel world…
I have no idea what your comment has to do with anything. Are you stoned?
No, you are stoned since you can’t figure out a relationship between your post and mine. It’s a cruel world because Sony opened sourced the specs but they’re available on request.
You are confused. Sony did not open the entire e-mount specification – only the physical portion of it.
Apparently they just want to track manufacturers? I’m pretty sure they could make full specs available on a “special request” 🙂 Take a look at all those Chinese adapters. Of course it could be reverse engineering, but now Sony gives a Metabones adapter with every A7r2 purchase. I doubt they don’t help Metabones with firmware updates / specs / etc…
The point is that making full specs available on “special request” is not open source.
Secondly, if I have to contact Sony to request the specification then it is by definition not open source.
E-mount never was open and not going to be.
http://www.sony.net/SonyInfo/News/Press/201102/11-018E/ not “open” for all purposes (i.e., Sony’s camera internals) but intended to be available for lens and adapter manufacturers to build such products for the Sony e-mount. One wonders how hard it would be to reverse engineer a system that uses e-mount lens/adapter specs which have been made available, unless obtaining a copy per Sony’s invitation involves signing a non-comp document of some sort. **shrug**
NDA is required, but not enough: it only starts review process inside Sony and they might accept or reject. So it is not in any way different to other proprietary standards.
I’m Sigma SD user, they do it for users like me with more lens with Sigma SA mount. They have the best lens in the market with SA mount and need to push an camera with mirrorless mount? xD LOL
Can’t they make a dammm dual mount?
xD hahahaha oh come on SA aren’t really bad! 😀 I’m Happy for your interesting! You use Nikon? Canon?
I love Sigma and their lenses. I made my comment about an adaptable lens mount because I shoot on Sony, Blackmagic, Nikon, RED, sometimes Canon, and so my lenses are as varied as the bodies I use– except that I don’t own any SA mount glass and probably never will.
I’d love to be able to use the lenses I have on a Sigma camera. In fact, wouldn’t shoot photos on the a7rII if I couldn’t adapt lenses to it, and it is quite a capable body to shrug off for that reason.
I’m definitely not hating on the SA mount or lenses. I just want to see Sigma tap into a broader market. 🙂
The problem aren’t the Sigma SA (boarder market selling) but the ignorance of people. Brainwashed from others company to look only at ISO.
please show a technical drawing how would they do it. I’m curious.
Alpa system OR Mamiya 6/7 style (you can push the mount in/ou for storage).
I don’t think you need a technical drawing to understand the concept (unless I’m missing something).
Consider the Sony/Minolta mount– Somy could, in theory, release a new a-mount camera with an e-mount base with supporting electronics to which you could attach an “extender” to match the a-mount flange distance. The e-mount could pass through the electronic information for the a-mount adapter.
So if Sigma made an MFT mount, for example, and created a robust extension tube (that could be left on the camera for SA only shooters, then people who wanted to adapt MF glass via the MFT mount, could. No?
They have their own mount and a lot of lenses for that mount. Why would they use something else? It’s exactly the same strategy as Canon, Fuji, Nikon, Pentax and Sony use.
The other sensible option is to make a version of their own mount with shorter flange distance and compatibility via a fairly simple adapter.
Sigma offers a lens mount change service. These cameras are meant for Art series lenses able to resolve 30-50mp of detail on a foveon sensor, not for E-mount.
For example if you already own a set of Art primes you can get them swapped to SA mount and enjoy having pretty much a medium format camera with Zeiss quality primes.
You obviously don’t get the point
No informations about the quantum efficiency of the sensors ?
In this case, QE isn’t main factor, but color selectivity, and read noise.
And just like that Sigma jump into 3rd place for “most interesting mirrorless system” (to me – ymmv) behind sony and Fuji, ahead of m43, and miles ahead of Canon and Nikon.
Welcome to the party guys, hopefully you offer us some interesting options.
I disagree. Just taking the mirrorbox out of a DSLR is not the best way to make a mirrorless camera. Same with that horrible Pentax K-01. It is awkward product design.
Make the thing E-mount and ship it with the MC-11 adapter, and you have the best of both worlds. The existing E-mount Sigma glass will work great on the APS-H sensor.
How else do you expect to make a mirrorless camera? Removing the mirror, or building a camera system that doesn’t use mirrors, is the essential portion of mirrorless cameras. Whether or not they use mounts designed for SLRs isn’t the question.
Now, SA mount? That’s a problem. But there are loads of people interested in F-mount mirrorless, myself being one, and I will have to extrapolate that to interest in other SLR mounts.
Rollei’s SLR lenses work wonderfully on certain ALPA FPS cameras with Rollei mounts. This is a pretty typical desire list for a lot of people. SA mount? That’s the funny thing about this.
For me aren’t a problem. I’m Sigma SD user. You?
I’m not. If it was a different mount I’d be interested. There are too few compact, inexpensive lenses for SA, but there are a lot of great lenses there. I think it in interesting move.
But why a different mount? for me haven’t sense, they would lose their customers . If you want tray an Sigma camera with your Sigma lens, you can change the mount on the Sigma customer service…
Online you can find many converter for SA and bayonets modified
And that’s why you’re the only Sigma SA user here. Seriously, going SA just greatly limits their potential market and the whole system becomes a dead-end again. If you’re truly a Sigma supporter, you would want sustainability for the whole system, not because of the fact you already have a few SA lenses.
Why only Bayer users
complain about this lack ? Are you willing to compromise by purchasing an obsolete machine, but you worry about investing in a different system from different Canikony ?
It’s not about Bayer or not. I’m fine with the Foveon tech. It’s just Sigma having an opportunity to reinvent themselves and they dig a deeper grave for themselves by going with their SA-mount. What do you think will sustain Sigma R&D? A handful SA users like you (obviously more than a handful but comparing to other systems, it seems like it) or the potential much much larger market/sale by going with a new short-flange mount? How is it that they are making so much right in optics design, but so much wrong when it comes to camera system?
For me aren’t an opportunity. Is the same with another mount, the sales are the same. If you want an camera, you buy it. Not for the mount you don’t buy an Sigma camera.
I guess that’s why the Sigma camera division is going no where. Sony had the ball to realize that their A-mount DSLR was going no where so they went full in with the E-mount. That put them on the map clearly. The Foveon tech could be much better by now if Sigma put enough R&D into it. And when I buy into a mount, I buy a system. I don’t just buy a camera… not collector. Ask yourself this question, if those Art lenses didn’t sell as well they did, would we be able to see a bunch of them now? It’s the sustainability that you must understand. As an SA user, you’re not helping the company really.
It’s an interesting point of view. But i believe, they have evaluated before making this decision? For me actually is an good idea.
Good luck to all SA users :D. I’ll be back when Sigma offers a short-flange mirrorless.
Foveon can’t have an mount (draft) under 55-60mm
🙂
How so?
I believe it is a technical limit . The optimum draw is between 55-60mm .
I don’t know, I thought the Merrill’s are using the same sensor as the old SD1 and those lenses are definitely short-flange lenses. Either way, I’ll want to see how these two perform.
They are fixed lens cameras
why only Bayer users complain about this lack ? Are you willing to compromise by purchasing an obsolete machine, but you worry about investing in a different system from different Canikony ?
it looks like cross breeding between monkey and crocodile.
I think the designers of this camera should get life sentence.
this will not be a hot product.
Sigma had a chance two years ago, to make mirrorless camera with lenses designed for mirrorless camera. But they failed miserably. Meantime other camera makers make sensors better and better, and it’s only question of time when Sony introduce competing sensor technology that does not require color filters. And sigma sensor will be “done”.
these cameras are even more ugly than “hasselblad” cameras
Can’t be hot in a world where photographers (???) talk about “Noise reduction” and not of “Color reproduction”.
First glance , you think nice , second glance what did they do with the view finder, the position is really strange, and the hot shoe is in the wrong position, it should be inverted , the other way around, like the old Pentax sfx, perfect balance with flash, now this look stupid wanting to keep the flash in the optical ax , this is the reason why I would not buy this, the H chip would be very nice, Sigma what you did here is stupid!!! This is not made for humans, seems more for cyclops, I have news for Sigma humans are made with two eyes , and not one in the middle of the face.
The lens mount is indeed an other problem but there is a lot of cheap glass for this around with Minolta/Sony A mount.
Not to mention the many quite cheap M42 lenses which can be adapted with a widely-available dumb adapter.
agree the position of the viewfinder is very strange. i normally use left eye.
me too so this camera is not meant for left-eye dominant people
Well I think you have to get used to having your thumb in your right eye then.
I could not agree more. If you use your left eye, you will have your thumb in the right eye, if you use your right eye, your nose leaves greasy marks on the display. I mean, seriously??? Why not putting the EVF at the left side so it works for everybody, as XE-2 and A6000 have it?
What makes me angry is that they pay people to make this, how to make a set up which and be sure that it will fail, to me that deserves a medal !!!
It’s a highly specialized system for “slow” applications. Think of it as a medium format alternative.
That’s exactly how I consider my Quattro cameras. You have a different approach with them, compared to “normal” cameras.
Totally agree.
And it is the only brand that understands what film photography is about. No matter what Fuji is doing and doing great with the fuji x series. Sigma is a step ahead. Yes the cameras can be quirky but when you come, like me, from shooting Hasselblad, Mamiya RZ, 645, or Technical 4×5, it comes with the sames constraints. Constraints are the field of the creatives, not camera that are over technological to answer poor photographic skills like axis stabilisation.
do you happen to have a web page with some photography tricks? i am not extremely experienced and never worked with a medium nor large format camera before..
What do you mean by tricks?
i simply mean experience from taking photos 🙂
The SD quattro H looks amazing, but I’m not sure if anyone would buy one after what happened with the SD1m; They released it at $8000 then reduced it to $2000 shortly afterwards.
The Sigma Art lens lineup is fantastic, as is the Foveon sensor, but Sigma have a history of producing terrible cameras. IMO, they should just produce sensors for Canon/Nikon and concentrate on what they’re good at.
The reason that happened (it was actually a little less than $7,000 at introduction) was solely because of a last minute decision by the elderly, stubborn (and sick with liver cancer) CEO, a man who dies a few months later whereupon the price dropped. It was a weird, one-time thing.
i dont mind them trying to create something interesting using their assets to enrich the ecosystem..
sigma is really pushing it with weird looking bodies…
and i like it very much. go sigma!
I already own a dp0, a dp2 and a dp3 Quattro. They are fantastic cameras. The only thing I miss is an evf. These new mirrorless bodies are interesting, but I don’t see myself spending money when I already have the Quattros.
good at low iso to be correct.
At base iso the IQ is great. Then we can debate on the use foreverer and ever. These are not Swiss Knives, rather specialized tools.
these arent swiss knives, these are japanese katanas!
Right. And if you are skilled, and know what you’re doing, results are jaw dropping.
Great body, but the mount is a big mistake! i want to adapt lenses. make it shorter. i hope sigma change it before release.
i would buy one (100%) with a shorter mount distance.
i donnot buy one with an sa mount
I don’t get this trend about adapting lenses, specially from other brands or worse legacy lenses… Adaptors, manual focus, problems with light angles and so on.
Sigma makes great lenses and uses great technolgie with Foveon, why would you adatp other lenses than the Art serie?
No adapters and a great native lens selection make life too easy. Apparently people want more fun with tinkering 😉
its true that from sample images of dp cameras i had checked, everything was sharper than any image i have ever seen on other camera in 1:1 image size. i wonder if its the lense quality or some other factor (sensor, etc.)..
Lense + sensor
Foveon sensor for sure. Just look at the Pentax examples that use their sensor shift tech to create a Foveon-like image. They are MUCH more resolving than any other APS-C camera by far.
For Pentax shift mode you need to stay locked on position and aren’t really the same of Foveon sensor (or better…). xD Micro contrast and color reproduction aren’t better then Foveon.
yeah, pixel shifted images look a bit wird.. i mean there is sharpness, but it looks a bit unnatural to me.
Because foveon is awesome with color and micro contrast and the current line of sigma lenses is dull as can be when it comes to color and micro contrast.
The combination would make for a mind blowing architecture/landscape tool where sharpness is king but it would be kinda bad at portraiture where color and nuances in tones are more important than just sharpness.
Then again sigma could surprise us and release a 85 and a 135 that deals with that problem.
sorry but did i miss the video features.. oh wait it´s a sigma.
i also wonder about AF and other stuff that seems to be completely ignored by some fanboys.
i have tested the sigma cameras and overall i never was impressed. not at all.
if it would be any other brand we would not see a single positiv comment i guess.
for landscape / architecture, stills, its probably quite sufficient…
” It delivers image quality so distinctively intense that even the temperature, humidity, and scent of a scene seem to impress themselves upon the viewer.”
does that mean the camera stinks and overheats?
honestly what a BS…..
It’s not BS at all. Artists/Photographers who care about image quality and print quality will totally appreciate these words.
It certainly makes sense to me and I’m sure to many others who strive for quality.
For the rest of you there are Bayer sensors. Enjoy them:)
luckily, the sweat of a photographer does not transfer into image… mostly…
I shoot a 4×5 View camera (Ilford HP 5 @ ISO 300) and Sigma Merrill Dp 2&3 (Nikon D7200 when pixel density is important). It looks like this is aimed at landscape photographiers and studio shooting where lighting can eliminate the need for high ISO. We will have to see if ISO is good above 200.
Sigma does make weird looking bodies!
Fanboys/Fangirls Show up at dawn, big heavy tripod, lock up mirror,use a cable release, pray for no wind, take your one exposure, use an Eizo monitor in post, and shut up.
Need ISO 6400 to shoot at midnight get a Sony or Nikon D3 – yes stupid 12 Mpx- and Shut up.
Better idea Shut up!
Love my Eizo.
Shut Up!
????????? i was kinda of interested until i realised the EVF is located at the right side of the camera, near the thumb grip. Bummers, I’m left master eye
Just put your thumb inside the nostril closest to the camera and it will be glued to your face. Sigma ergonomics at its best!
Need dis. No adapters is awesome. That what Canon should do if they decide to make a mirrorless one day.
This looks like a Sigma version of Pentax K-01.
Gotta pay to play. Looks like this camera might be worth ponying up to. If you ask me, this is the most exciting camera released thusfar this year. The design is a bit weird though.
I agree and but love the design. Reminds me of a Mamiya 7:)
Two minor corrections…
THIS IS IT
I have been waiting for this moment all my life
but first check out if it has improved noise in dark areas and at high iso and if the skin tones are no more brown/yellow.
I will carefully checked the reviews. But I’m already conviced by the DPQ series, have read all the reviews and spent hours checking images on flickr, downloading raw files and editing them in SPP to back up my money.
ok, i hope you enjoy it and will have a lot of fun wit it.
Just choose the “portrait” option in Sigma Photo Pro and skin tones will look natural.
“Standard” is too saturated (and the default).
“Neutral” is natural.
“Cinema” is too yellow.
“Monocrome” is a bit flat.
“Landscape” enhances blues, green and yellows.
April Fools! Hahahaha! Good one! Oops. Not yet? That VF placement and body shape are real? Yikes
body shape is quite strange.. did they announce price?
I would absolutely buy the Quattro H camera if it was offered in an E-mount version, even if it was cold mount (no electronics). This would make a great digital back for my landscape/architecture work.
If only Sigma…
The left eye user and there are quite a few , do they have to put their thumb in their eye, really how stupid is this, oh no they should not have a thumb , really I am totally flabbergasted.
I am french and just discovered the word “flabbergasted”. Thank you this made my day
And I am dutch living in France, happy to be of some help!!
better to be flabbergasted than perplexed
As I wrote below; Just put the thumb inside the nostril. Problem solved!
why couldn’t I think of that!!!
@Admin – what about availability in the US?
what are the mounts for fastening a neck strap called? (those metalic things that stick out so dangerously to left and right). you cant even align the camera with your face and pet with it, because you are going to hurt yourself with those horrible stickouts..
This is smaller than the old Canon APS-H, it’s just 30% larger than APS-C.
It’s “just” 30% larger? 🙂
Canon was something like 50%, this is why “just”.
Marketing “APS-H”.
what about availability?,
About time you hey release a Mirrorless interchangeable lens camera, APS-H is a good start, they should be working towards FF and better ISO noise, that would throwing money at them.
Unfortunately, SA = deal breaker for me, I want to be able to mount M glass on it.
It seems more and more a stupid idea to have that lens mount, why make a mirrorless with room for a mirror, if you bring also to the market an adapter ring MC-11.
it seems that here people have more skills then at Sigma at the moment!!
i dare to presume its for the possibility to mount a bigger sensor in the body later on.
No that is wrong the sensor size has no influence on the distance between the last lens on the lens construction, the APS-H would need anyway only FF lenses because of it image circle covering the APS-H, the closer the image sensor is to the lens the less light you loose, if you have worked 8″x10″ like me,you would know that, because sometimes with the calculation of exposure correction of the bellows 16 to 20 times flash would be required.
In photography we look at the entering light, in film we look at the out coming light and if you ad distance you loose relative light , all though very little it is however a loss and there is more surface for undesirable reflection in the body, because the image chip is a metallic surface, unlike film was, and also was designed to absorb light and not reflect it , so in theory the mirrorless is a better design, one of the reasons why Leica M was so famous, very close to the film the lens was less side effects .
thank you.
on the other hand, on larger flange distance the distance from the lens to the center of the film is similar to the distance from the lens to the edges of the film. the larger the film and the shorter the flange distance, the bigger the difference in the distances lense-to-center and lens-to-edge of film.. so the bigger the relative loss of light. i cant say i know what sigma has in mind, but maybe sigma can clarify on the way to the final product, though the corporations rarely clarify anything unless it resembles marketing speak.
And that is also wrong, you think that the light beam crosses in the last lens, no it doesn’t, the last lens in the construction is designed to make the the image and all the light beams go without distortion to on to the focal plan, image chip, because if it would happen like you say there is an big angle of incidence with reflection to result, the last lens is there to make the image lines go as parallel as possible on to the image chip, so the is less relative light loss, that is why the lenses are more complicated to construct.
i know the sophisticated lens design is intedned to reduce or compansate for handicaps due to a flat, not spherical sensor.
I think in the near future we will see curved sensors to cancel side effects of lens constructions.
only 2 bad things
a) why not put the sensor at the back of the body so it had less pronounced mount
b) hate evf
but i can live with both if sigma release it below $500, afterall if the quattro sells for 699 with lens, the pure body should be like $300
H is a cool way to go – but still a waste of full potential of SA FF image circle. And these bodies are almost guaranteed to be slow, and at their best on a tripod – so, for that I want a 20mm (of course), AF (well not really necessary), 1.4 (but why), that weighs nearly a kilo: what have these guys been smokin?
dont forget the weight of external battery! (it eats up a lot) :p
Does the “H” in the camera name stands for HORROR?
Or “halloween camera” ?
What a breeze of fresh air!
And as an architect I just LOVE this industrial design!
A weired but serious looking body – a photografic tool for sure. Even the Typo reminds me of good BRAUN idustrial design by Dieter Rams 😉
I’m a Canon user.
But I think Sigma is doing it right.
Many Nikon/Canon users complaint about the SA mount, but they did not jump on the Sony train because adapted lens will never work like on the original system.
Sigma is building its own, new, identity. It’s not gonna fight against Sony in the legacy battle. Imho, this is a savvy choice.
sd4 + 18-35mm 1.8 + 50-100mm 1.8 + Apo macro makes a great little system around, I guess, the 5000$ price range. Take it or leave it.
SA mount is around since 80s: there are dozens of lenses. And in the last few years Art lenses proved Sigma quality can compete in the so-called Pro segment offering, as a bonus, an aggressive pricing.
Now Sigma must build a serious customer care, work hard on marketing to prove the quality of its proposition (this include choosing where the sd4 must be positioned: studio work? weddings? documentary editorials? Surely not Sports) and persuade the skeptical but curious crowd to jump in. It takes 3/5 years, but they can do it. Fuji is doing it.
Good luck Sigma. I’m with you.
As a bonus: http://j.mp/1WIhQTu
i do not prefer marketing.. it only makes the product more and more expensive and affordable only for posh people and sponsored people. the rest gets the middle finger. all thanks to marketing. popularity can be gained by smarter means.
Not sure about the IQ and overall performance, but I’m so into Sigma’s recent Quattro Industrial Design language~ So futuristic yet so surreal~!!!
it was more like extravagant.. they should not forget about ergonomy while trying design experiments. including the sticking out hooks for neck strap.. they could use some more subtlety.
is it full frame?
This camera is a left eye shooter’s nightmare.
Oh my God! More terrible body ever seen! Scary combination of Sony and Pentax controls not to understand with full ergonomics. After that, the housing series looks A7II pinnacle of convenience.
The viewfinder placement is bad for people with big noses !
right!
isnt it still better than other cameras? this viewfinder sticks out a bit at least.. though, i know what you mean.. i made my friend’s eos 1000d display dirty with my nose constantly touching it. what we need is a wireless pirate’s eye patch (p.e.p.) vewfinder.
Wow that body looks like something from the 90s. I dont know what they were thinking..
seems the japanese grandpa design it..
http://www.theverge.com/2016/2/25/11111842/sigma-sd-quattro-hands-on
created by a dyslexic designer for 3 fingered cyclops
fell out of the ugly tree and hit every branch on the way down
Most photographers have a decent amount of money invested in lenses, and I can’t see how we are going to adapt them to this “Sigma mount”. If it wasn’t for that, its an amazing camera & I would have bought one!