Samsung isn’t done with their mirrorless camera announcement. We can expect a new NXF1 camera to be announced within the next couple of weeks too! The camera just got approved for commercial use by the Indonesian agency Postel.
Still, I don’t think that “F” inside the name stays for “Full Frame” or so. It will be a sort of NX3000 successor. That’s just my guess…
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This camera is my last hope, i.e, higher end than nx30, newer aps-c sensor with 30mp, rangefinder form, new imging processor. But I’m quite sure it will remain just a hope. 🙁
Don’t worry, there always will be a last hope…
…but what do You have to lose?
Imagine Your last hope will be announced soon…
…at a price tag You can not afford?
There will always be something to moan – just sent me a PM on dpreview if You want to sell Your Samsung gear…
…I am sure that I find someone who will be more happy with Your Samsung gear than You seem to be.
If You ask me…
…I am very happy with the announced lenses and the NX30 and the new flash capabilities…
…exactly what the customers (at least some including me) wanted.
Samsung did a great job in listening to their competent customers…
…well done!
Now it is a no brainer for me to stay with Samsung.
Ok mr. competent 🙂 happy for you if you’re happy upgrading to nx30 from nx300. And…I have a nx200 to sell, right now, so if you have some competent customer for me, please let me know.
It’s silly that you capitalize the word ‘you’ when you show so little respect for others. By the way, ‘You’ is wrong in English:
http://english.stackexchange.com/questions/30185/you-versus-you-as-polite-form-of-writing
No need to get personal, if help is offered…
…b.t.w., my canadian relatives didn’t moan, when I wrote ‘You’…
…even if I didn’t talk about cameras… 🙂
…and the chinese people, I talked to, didn’t consider me silly –
even if I made a big mistake in Mandarin…
…and I didn’t consider them silly, if they made a mistake in german language.
Well, not only camera users should be tolerant – isn’t it?
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Oh – and I missed your argument to the topic in your answer…
…could you please give me a hint, why the NXF1 is your last hope?
…you know, I am a bit silly sometimes… 😉
Sorry I didn’t mean to offend you, I was not saying that you are silly, but that I considered silly the fact that you used the ‘Y’ to bring respect and then considered me not competent enough to understand and appreciate the new camera.
That’s my last hope regarding the possibility of having a new sensor in nx cameras after more than two years, able to become #1 in high iso and dr. And with weather sealing, big buffer and all the other goodies that I doubt are in nx30 and for sure are not in the nx300.
Would it make sense for Samsung to announce their first APS-C ‘PRO’ lens, the 16-50 2.0-2.8
and the follow it by announcing a FF camera? I don’t think so.
I guess the ‘F’ signifies ‘Fixed’ for a fixed zoom lens, or maybe a fixed Prime lens,
perhaps in an NX20/30 form factor.
I am glad Samsung is not running in the Megapixel Race and instead is fine tuning its current sensor and processor as they have with the NX30.
One reason why I really enjoy Photography in this digital age is the ever present introduction of new cameras and technology which keeps me looking toward the future.
And to be able to express myself on this great web site, MirrorlessRumors, is icing on the cake.
Mp race is a concept from the past, I think With present technologies 24 or even 30mp can have the same dr and high iso performance as 16 or 20mp. I think it’s just a matter of manufacturing process.
The sensor in NX300 was actually a step up compared to nx200/1000/20 for the hybrid on sensor AF. I sincerely doubt that the one on NX30 is much tuned up from NX300. Reviews will tell. Imo also the “improved AF” is just something done via sw and not via hw. Again, will see.
Back to NXF1, everything could be. If it’s a fixed lens, why call it NX (which is the mount type)?
The fact that the new 16-50 is weather sealed while the nx30 does not seem to be, could point to the fact that a higher end model with weather seal is about to come. But again, this is just speculation.
I’d be willing to pay the price of OMD-EM1 for a rangefinder like NX with a tiltable EVF, a newer/better sensor, a new image processor and a big buffer. If the NX30 costs about 850$ body only, as some reports suggest, then again there would be room for a higher end model in the 1200$ range.
We’ll see.
Do you really need a 30mp sensor ?
On one hand you want a larger buffer for continuous shooting … but on the other hand you want a 50% larger files. That would mean not just larger files but less space in the buffer (in number of photos) and slower processing speeds.
Larger buffer (more memory) could be an easy feature for samsung. They produce memory, so they could just stuff 1GB of memory on board. As for 30MP files, they’ll be 50% bigger than 20MP ones, not a big deal, again, if memory is big enough,
And they could simply improve processing, so that after, say, 15 raw at full speed (could be 600MB used out of 1024), then the camera goes on taking 1 picture per second, like many other cameras do.
In answer to your question:
“Back to NXF1, everything could be. If it’s a fixed lens, why call it NX (which is the mount type)? ”
Samsung would use the NX to signitfy the Sensor Size.
NXF1 could indicate a fixed lens camera with the ‘current’ NX internal specs.
The NX30 is from a company not operating on the premise “We must not threaten our DSLR business with these MILC’s”.
Samsung abandoned their DSLR’s and now announces their new Flagship Camera the NX30.
This is an accomplishment that really serves us, the photographers, which neither the big C not the big N have permitted/achieved.
My point is one should not “sincerely doubt that the one (the sensor) on NX30 is much tuned up from NX300” without having the camera in hand and tested.
Samsung’s efforts on our behalf warrant us giving them a fair, unbiased evaluation of the NX30.
True. As said elsewhere, different persons could have different priorities. Some features that for one can justify a new purchase, for another one simply cannot. For me, priorities over nx300 are IQ (especially dr and high iso), af speed, buffer depth, processing performance and EVF. Till now, the NX30 for sure ticks just the last box. We’ll see if it can tick others.
My NX300 has a fantastic EVF and here is a recent shoot with my NX300:
http://www.flickr.com//photos/nickphoto123/sets/72157639356570895/
It only cost me $80 and I have no need to upgrade to the NX30 just for the EVF. My EVF tilts in the same manner as well, and the tilting is great to shoot with.
How did you get an EVF for your NX300?
I was hoping for comments on my NX300 pics and my shooting method before being asked anonymously ‘How?”.
I don’t think you understand what EVF stands for.
An EVF is an Electronic Viewfinder which displays digitally processed images as opposed to an Optical Viewfinder which usually delivers a portion of the reflective light from a subject to one’s eye.
My NX300 is part of my EVF with which I shot the seagulls in my image set.
Hopefully it’s finally the Samsung rangefinderstyled + EVF body (Like Sony NEX-7 and Panasonic GX7) that we’ve all been waiting for! If it’s just another iteration w/out EVF then Samsung is truly hopeless.
in 2014, just how big do you think the market is for a rangefinder camera?
I don’t know the answer, but for you to use the words ‘truly hopeless’, the market must be very big.
Fuji, with some pretty good rangefinder type cameras, did not make the Sales Report for the Japanese Market, as reported in another article on this web site.
Samsung’s newly announced NX30 indicates to me that Samsung is a forward looking company, looking to gain market share increases as opposed to locking in a niche market.
My guess is still a fixed lens (prime) APS-C sized sensor camera.
Sorry, but that’s going to be another failure. I hope it’s EVF/rangefinder so those that want the flexibility of an interchangeable body can have it, and those that want a fixed lens can just stick the 30/2 on it and not remove it.
Not if its a ‘poor man’s’ (me) Sony RX-1 – it just might fly.
If you want APS-C fixed lens go get a Fujifilm X100s. I hardly think a similar Samsung branded product going against the likes of Fujifilm is going to dethrone and become a big seller. Samsung needs the rangefinder/EVF body to compete with the bigger MILC market.
I have bought two digital Fuji consumer cameras over the years.
One had a very slow image review, the other’s control dial twisted off.
This left me with a very bad first impression about Fuji.
Nothing they offer can get me back.
My posting here is just to guess what the new Samsung NFX1 is going to be. I guess, not hope, it will be a fixed lens APS-C.
What is your guess, not your hope?
Re: My mentioned NX300 3×2 Loupe Viewfinder:
Due to the over 100 viewers of my Seagull shoot using my ‘NX300 3×2 Loupe Viewfinder”,
I thought some of you would like to know how mine works and might like to make one yourself.
I added four pictorial images to my Seagull Set detailing construction and use of my home-made ‘NX300 EVF’,
at least this is what I call it:
http://www.flickr.com//photos/nickphoto123/sets/72157639356570895/
All I can say is ‘Try it, You’ll like it’
And yes, you can change every setting without taking your eye from the EVF.