And now it’s definitely no more a rumor! The image on top shows you the specs of the soon to be announced Sonnar T FE 35mm f/2.8 Zeiss lens. And as you can read on the text it’s a lens designed for Full Frame E-mount cameras. From what I know this lens will be announced on Tuesday. But there will be one more announcement in two weeks for more FF lenses (at least three of them) and one new NEX-FF camera.
The price of camera the kit lens (a new Sony G FF zoom) is rumored to be around 3300-3500 Euro.
Exciting times ahead!!!
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If the FE 35mm is FF why would the table have an equiv 35mm focal length of 52.5mm?
You missed another important spec on the table. There are two “angle of view” figures. 63 degrees is definitely a full frame figure for a 35mm lens. Also, who would make a 35mm f/2.8 lens for an APSC sensor? But 35mm f/2.8 on full frame? Now that’s juicy. I’ll expect absolute top quality from the lens given Sony haven’t gone for a perfectly doable f/2. And look at the size and weight! Leica definitely need to watch out!
Suddenly the NEX system is getting an abundance of lenses…
This year:
20 2.8
16-70 4 Zeiss
18-105 4 G
70-400 4-5.6 G FF
35 2.8 FF Zeiss
85??
FF ??
Primes:
12 2.8
16 2.8 + wide + fish
19.2.8
20 2.8
24 1.8 Zeiss
30 2.8
32 1.8
35 2.8 FF Zeiss
35 1.8 OSS
50 1.8 OSS
(85 1.8 probably this year)
Zooms:
18-55 3.5-5.6 OSS
16-50 3.5-5.6 PZ OSS
16-70 4 OSS Zeiss
18-105 4 OSS G
18-200 3.5-6.3 OSS (three diff. versions)
70-400 4-5.6 G FF
Exciting times…
You missed 55-200 zoom
You forgot 60 2.8 from Sigma
So the first FF NEX lens is going to be a 35/2.8? Sounds a bit on the slow side although the lens is rather compact and lightweight what is a valid point. But I hope that Sony will come up with more than one slow lens with the FF NEX introduction.
I suppose that these both are Zeiss branded (designed) lenses give their names (Sonnar T*).
Price is a bit on the high side, but on the other hand expecting a FF NEX + lens for less than RX1R is not too realistic (in particular if the NEX will have EVF on board).
The speed race has been won by high ISO/low noise capable sensors. There is enough heavy wide aperture glass around.
My vote is for more slow, sharp and light weight lenses!
That’s not a full frame lens. It says it will work on a full frame sensor set to apsc. Wouldn’t that make it an apsc. Also the specs say the 24mm is equal 36mm which jibes with apsc. Huh
THE BODY MIRRORLES FULL FRAME IS BIG, DSLR BODY FOR FULL FRAME MIRRORLES , BAD NEWS
Unless the camera is very compact, for that high price you get two d600….
Wow, the E-system moves to full frame with a really audacious lens: a 35mm f/2.8! Sony is really pushing the technology envelope there. I can see thousands of serious pro shooters saying, “Well, it’s finally time to dump my DSLRs and move to mirrorless — I can get a 35mm f/2.8 lens now!”
Seriously, they expect people to get excited about this?
People you are really weird. For some reason 24mm f/1.8 APS-C and 17mm f/1.8 for m4/3 is okey, but 35mm f/2.8 is slow. There is a _single_ m4/3 lens that’s as fast as f/2.8 ff equiv and everyone praises compactness of the system and availability of the lenses. It’s okey that most “fast” m4/3 primes are around f/3.5-4 in equiv but FF compact system has to have lenses faster than f/2.8 from the start? so that you can use your m4/3 size advantage argument?
p.s. I meant single autofocusing lens released at the moment of me writing this comment.
an f1.8 lens on m43 or APSC is still f1.8 in terms of light. so an f1.8 lens on m43 or APSC will be faster than an f2.8 FF lens.
for DOF an m43 or APSC f1.8 lens is not an f1.8. hence people say a full frame f2.8 lens is slow. but yes an f2.8 FF lens allows for shallower DOF.
No it won’t. F2.0 on M4/3 gathers same amount of light as F4 on FF. FF collects more light as the surface area is larger. That’s the reason FF sensor has two lower noise performance.
So F2.8 lens on FF will have same DOF and same low light as F1.4 on M4/3
If true, yes, the lens is a moderate and classic design, however a 35/2,8 on FF is the same as 23/1,7 on crop, except that the transitions are smoother than on crop, plus better resolution and 3D look. *IF* the lens is good. The 55/1,8 – if real – is also not the most exciting 50-ish lens ever built, but if it is good, retains the Zeiss look and is compact and light, it will be a great lens. On a compact camera with a possibly excellent sensor.
Ultra fast lenses are not everything, they are expensive, heavy and often less than optimal wide open.
I’d prefer a Nex FF with good fixed focals to a 5d III or d800 with 3x the weight (for the whole kit) any day.
A camera doesn’t have to be revolutionary to be elegant and excellent.
Interesting. But way to expensive.
What is expensive?
Ranger 9 – I guess some people don’t mind lugging around big bulky equipment – those people should stay with Canikon and there clinical glass.
Once the FF NEX is announced and it is only slightly bigger than the current NEX-7 combined with this FF 35mm 2.8 Zeiss lens weighing 120 grams (!!) Then come back and tell us all who else packs such IQ punch in such a small ILC package. and if you want super fast be my guess putting on 500grams+ f0.95 glass on it and be happy…
Judging from the recent quality of Zeiss primes, FF NEX could very well have the same or even better quality than canikon.
Sure, a d600, d800 or 5d MkIII offer more bang for the buck, but the new Sony may have an excellent sensor in a small and light packet. That’s the essential argument. Even with crop cameras Fuji X or Sony Nex, many haven’t touched their heavy DSLRs for months (so did I and sold it) – many are just tired of schlepping around huge and heavy kits, just look again at a Canon/ Nikon Pro body with a good lens attached, those are heavy monsters. No fun.
A mirrorless camera with light lenses (weight of the new Zeiss 35/2,8 is spectacular if correct!) is so much lighter and less obstrusive, and if they get IQ right till the outer corners, it will be worth the price for many. Surely for me. I am already happy with a Fuji X-E1, a Nex-FF can only get much better… After all the Fuji uses a modified Sony sensor. But a small one…
So the wide full frame lenses will have a Sonnar, Planar, Biogon […] design instead of a Distagon. That’s the difference between mirror and mirrorless.
why is the 35mm (full frame) equivalent is 52.5 mm ?
35*1.5=52.5
35mm equivalent multiplier is 1,0 and APS-C is 1,5
“The price of camera the kit lens (a new Sony G FF zoom) is rumored to be around 3300-3500 Euro.”
Groundbreaking!… No, not really.
Not interested in FF – until I see the pancakes.
Also IMO Sony is stretching itself: NEX hasn’t yet complete lens line-up, and now they start with the NEX-FF.
NEX would have more sales than the NEX-FF, and on the market for years, and yet Sigma has brought only so few native E-mount lenses.
Frankly, there is very little right now to be excited about. Except, of course, for the manual focus crowd. (And the measurebators.)
Actually the NEX lens lineup is now pretty extensive (see the Spaceman thread above). The new 35mm is also pretty thin–only 10mm thicker than the Canon 40mm pancake which requires a large mirror box to work. So the combo of FF NEX and 35mm f/2.8 will be considerable smaller than any FF DSLR combo.
The NEX FF 35mm is basically the same size as the Summaron 35mm or the ZM 35mm f/2.8 so the size is pretty great considering that the E-mount is 10mm thinner.
Is this the beginning of the end of the DSLR? What would now be the advantage of buying a DSLR over a mirrorless camera with the same size sensor? Even if they were the same size and weight, and I think that mirrorless should be at least lighter, the moving mirror of a DSLR, although it might have some advantages, is definitely at a disadvantge with what can be achieved with mirrorless. Am I wrong?
– Lenses
– Accessories
– Ergonomic body
should I continue?
I know that for some people 3 lenses between 100 and 18mm do the job, but for anything serious mirrorless are no competition to DSLRs.
Besides – according to most recent world-wide statistics of a whole mirrorless market released by Nikon sales stagnate with no significant growth anywhere but Japan. So I hardly see any “end of the DSLR” on a horizon, or even – hiding behind it.
A hypothetical question: If Canon brings out a mirrorles full frame next month with similar specs to the 5D Mark III, with a state of the art EVF and a smaller and lighter frame, which would you choose?
I am curious to see the sales reaction to the Sony camera. True, Sony is still not a heavy player in the DSLR world, but I would not be surprised to see a lot of sales from their DSLRs going to the new full frame mirrorless.
will be pretty interesting to see if the Camera to match these lenses has the now shared Oly 5-axis stabilisation
Never mind the lenses!!! Plenty of MF lenses to use. What about the bodies??? 🙂