The naked NX20
One of our sources sent us a short info about one of the new Samsung NX cameras. According to him the NX-300 has the same NX-20 design but without EVF. It will be released in July.
Overall I am really curious to see what Samsung will do. Their NX system didn’t have the success they looked for. And the competition is becoming stronger (See Fuji Nikon and in short future Canon). They really have to “invent” something big in order to succeed!
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> They really have to “invent” something big in order to succeed!
Getting rid of EVF is not a success.
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What is it with all you people complaining about Samsung getting rid of the EVF? Samsung didn’t get rid of it. Let me say this loud and clear:
SAMSUNG’S NX100 LINE NEVER HAD AN EVF.
NX100 line: Small body, no EVF.
NX10 line: Larger body, permanent EVF.
Please stop complaining about Samsung cameras not having EVFs.
Let’s get the facts straight even if you don’t want to let them intrude too much!! The NX100 had an optional add on EVF – I know, I used to have one. Samsung decided to remove the feature from the replacement NX200 model, and I decided to sell my NX gear and go elsewhere.
My girlfriend has the NX11 and the i-function is quiet nice. But it’s a shame that thay don’t use the old K-mount… Maybe they become more succesfull after they took over Oly…
My dog works as a guardian in Samasung factory, and dog says that there will be Samsung NX 400 camera. It will have air bag just like my car so if owner drops it, it will inflate air bag on impact and it will be virtually indistructible. It will also have mini refridgerator to store pills for this “rumors” initiator.
Now back to reality. Samsung NX20 has been rumored for more than a year and still there was not even an announcement.
Samsung has no chance to be significan seller of mirrorless camera because they do not have product. And even if they finally deliver, it will be too late. Upper class of mirrorless customers will buy Fuji, middle class will buy Sony and lower class will buy Olympus/Pana. They will have large number of lenses from Sony and Tokina. And Samsung will remain the worst seller. They have no product, and even if they have one product it will NOT work with anything. My nikon flash will not work with it, my lightning trigger works with nx10 but when i tested it on nx200 it will not work. There is no third party lenses, and samsung is not capable to deliver any good telephoto lens. I do not believe in this system anymore. Canon will soon enter mirrorless market, and Fuji already started preparation to production of cheaper model of mirrorless with sensor without AA filter.
Samsung missed the train. They do not know how to design camera and they do not even know how to sell camera.
Sounds like nonsense to me. Why NX300 in NX20 thick DSLR style body without EVF, when you have NX200/NX210 delivering the same in nice stylish thin body…??? I Don´t see a market for this one…
This rumour must be false. The NXxxx line is completely different from the NXxx line. NXxx is dslr style body with hump, NXxxx is no EVF fashionable compact entry level style. NX300 should be a continuation of that, not a mix of both lines. However I think they need to make a new line with a rangefinder/EVF aesthetic style to follow suit with cameras like the x100/NEX-7.
NX300 already? I haven’t even seen the NX200 in person!
If you want to compete in this market, you have to beat Sony convincingly in some way. Olympus does it with IBIS. Panasonic does it by improving on AF speed and camera body size. Fuji beats Sony with image quality.
Samsung has a couple of areas where they can compete (other than price), but they have chosen not to do so. In my opinion, they might try adding an external viewfinder, a viewfinder/flash combo, Wi-fi, stabilized small lenses, fast zoom lenses, or predictive autofocus.
Any one of those would make me seriously consider Samsung.
But if all they offer is a “me too” camera, then it is easier for me to choose between the other alternatives.
i dunno but I wont consider a samsung
Two problems I saw when I bought their first NX:
1. Unfriendly to manual focus lenses.
2. Odd registry distance.
In addition, the lenses are not overwhelming, the sensor performance is underwhelming,…
They have a great system on paper: cameras, flashes (fabulous ones!), lenses, etc.
But it sucks. 🙁
very Korean
Vivek, what do you find odd about the registry distance? I know it’s a bit longer than in for example the Sony NEX system, but on the other hand that has given me the gut feeling that Samsung has to compromise less with the lens design than Sony which pushed the distance to its limits.
But otherwise I have to say that to me NX is looking like a lost opportunity at the moment. I bought an NX10 + 30mm pancake combo pretty cheaply last year to give it a try and while I like some aspects of them, based on what Samsung’s effort looks today, I won’t invest one cent more in NX.
Raffwal, Samsung missed the opportunity to lure the Leica lens owners like the other two systems with that registry distance.
Samsung’s 30/2 is mediocre. The longer registry did not help. 🙁
Sony (except their crappy 16/2.8), designs lenses with a large exit pupil and the distance between the lens’ rear element to the sensor is quite long (Leica registry territory) although the camera registry is only 19mm!! The downside is huge lenses on flimsy bodies.
But their primes: 24/1.8, 30/3.5 (macro) and the 50/1.8 have been impressive to very very good!
“Samsung’s 30/2 is mediocre. The longer registry did not help.”
Mediocre? Really? Perhaps compared to Leica glass, but I think most owners and test disagree. I’m pretty happy with mine, much more than with the body.
I compared my 30/2 against a 25/1.3 (c-mount) lens I was using on my G1 at that time. The 30/2 simply did not offer much resolution.
Not a Leica lens! Granted that Computar-TV 25/1.3 on m4/3rds is too good. 🙂
Samsung has a great lens line up. Obviously their lenses aren’t as good as Leica’s, but then again how many people can actually afford Leica? Samsung’s lenses have proven to be better than Sony’s lenses (except Sony’s higher end Carl Zeiss lens).
samsung also has a great menu system, great body quality, and the NX200 has a great sensor that beats Sony’s sensor at lower ISOs and is highly competitive at higher ISOs, although yes the original NX sensor was not overwhelmingly great (but they were still solid performers).
Honestly, the NX200 is a great camera, and should’ve been a great seller if it wasn’t for those uncompressed RAWs.
I don’t get why people are on Samsung’s back about needing something incredible or special. Sony doesn’t have any incredible or special besides a great sensor, and again, Samsung’s new sensor is highly comparable to Sony’s sensor. And Samsung currently has a bigger lens lineup. I think people simply have yet to accept Samsung as a photography-oriented company and are judging them because of it.
Also, for people sick of “waiting” for Samsung to release the NX20, bear in mind the only reason you might be waiting is because of rumor sites…rumor sites are not always right. Who says Samsung was pushing back these release dates this whole time? How do we know the rumors were simply false?
Not to mention, who cares if it’s been over a year since Samsung released a real successor to the NX10? Panasonic did the same thing with the GF1, except instead of releasing nothing they released repeat models like the GF2 and GF3. Olympus has done the same thing all their mirrorless career with the EPL1/2/3 and EP1/2/3, which are all basically the same camera except for the vast AF improvement in the third generation (although now they have the OM which is finally a different camera). Would it really be better if Samsung released repeat models like other companies just to make people feel like they are doing something? Not really. I would rather them focus on releasing one good model that is a real successor- in my mind, that is a real photographer’s company.
The NX20 seems to have all that we are asking for- a good EVF, an articulated AMOLED screen, a great sensor, faster buffer/performance, more customization- what more do you want? What “distinguishing” features does Sony have that makes Samsung inferior in comparison?
> What “distinguishing” features does Sony have that makes Samsung inferior in comparison?
Mindshare and marketing and sales momentum?
LooKing at the back of the camera is like a epl2 with a swivel LCD