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Nikon says “Canon G1X is for fanboys”. And Canon says “Mirrorless is great” (via techradar)

Amy from Techradar (Click here) first interviewed MR. James Loader, product manager for the Nikon Coolpix range. And here are his thoughts about the Canon G1X: “I was a little bit surprised. I thought we’d see the compact system camera first. A lot of people seem to think that the sensor inside that is what they will eventually use in a possible future CSC camera. The G1 X, at that price point, is a super kind of niche market, just for Canon fanboys if I’m completely honest. It’s not something that I anticipated from them.” But he also thinks a real interchangeable mirrorless system from Canon is coming: “I don’t think they would be happy to let Nikon and Panasonic and all the other competitors take the lead on this.“

And than she interviewed Mr. David Parry from Canon UK (Click here), “I think they (mirrorless) are a great idea. What I like about them so much is that it’s brought more people into photography and the more people shooting, the better, as far an imaging company is concerned – that’s what we’re all about. Obviously, people were expecting to see CSC (mirrorless) having an effect on DSLR sales, but actually they’re still growing.” And talking about the G1X: “It’s a similar kind of price to compact system cameras with a similar size sensor inside them, and once they’ve purchased that they might look at our DSLRs.“

P.S.: There is a Canon G1x full test at Focus Numerique (Click here). Preorders are available at Amazon (Click here), Adorama (Click here) and BHphoto (Click here).

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  1. Well Mr James, that is just dumb. And ‘product manager for the Nikon Coolpix range’ doesn’t exactly give him credit either. If there is anything for fanboys it IS the Coolpix range, haha, what a fool.

    The Canon G series is what it has always been: For pro and semi-pro SLR users who want something compact for the road, while at the same time a BREAK from the lens changing. They drastically improve this compact with a larger sensor and suddenly it’s for fanboys? What the …? I don’t see how the hell that has anything to do with brand preference, because it is all about the camera’s capabilities here that no one else delivers this way.

    1. +1

      And when I compare Nikon Coolpix with Canon G, then with quite some Coolpix cameras I have a shitty picture. Just horrible!

  2. What makes the Canon G1X a camera for Canon fanboys, totally unlike Nikon V1 for instance, which of course not is for any fanboys. lol

  3. Ironically, most buyers of the Nikon 1 are also fanboys – Nikon ones.

    I have expected more from both Canon and Nikon. And I have actually expected something either targeted at enthusiasts (spec sheet wise) or targeted at consumers (price wise). The bet on brand loyalty… I’m not sure it is worth much in the internet times. One thing I’m sure of: loyal buyers are by definition limited audience while for example m43 has been steadily bringing new people to the photography.

    I doubt very much Canon’s direction – G1X is a poor base for future development (or more like: shows that Canon has no real mirrorless strategy atm). While I think Nikon’s “1” system has real chance – right after they fix the price problem (what they will undoubtedly do).

  4. Mr. David Parry talking about the G1X: “It’s a similar kind of price to compact system cameras with a similar size sensor inside them, and once they’ve purchased that they might look at our DSLRs.”

    phew … dream on Mr. Parry.
    DSLRs are dead, dead, dead (and about time IMO)

  5. I wouldn’t be surprised that despite his insults, Mr Loader is already working on copying the G1x’s design for his next camera and it would not be the first time he copied the G series design.

    The P7000 series was essentially the G11/G12 with a longer zoom and a slower firmware.

    The P300 was essentially the S95 with a poorer image quality and without RAW support.

    The Nikon V1/J1 is essentially an m4/3 with a smaller sensor and a little less imagination.

    I think Mr Loader should go do his job by bringing more innovation to the Coolpix range rather than resort to smearing the competitor’s product.

  6. Well, dSLRs may be dead, but nobody told the average consumer yet. The reason I think they will be around for some time is because of poor marketing. NONE of these CSC makers are advertising the fact that these are essentially dSLRs in a smaller package!

    Until they do that, many people will buy dSLRs because they think they are better for their needs. Most people don’t need a dSLR, they just think they do….

    1. dslrs wont be dead until you can make a camera with a great viewfinder that can support big lenses for working pros to use. No sports photgrapher is going to buy a small m43 body and have a 400mm lens on that thing and use the back lcd to focus or compose. that doesn’t happen in the real world..only in m43 fans eyes. The Canon guy is right when he says the csc market is still growing..and they are.Canon won’t come and use its resources to destroy Oly and Panny until it has no choice but to. Where CSC cameras will are failing now is that they cant offer a camera with same features at same price point as dslrs. The viewfinder is missing even in 700 dollar cameras like the ep3 and gx1. Even entry level dslrs have ovf’s. Heck, every single dslr has an ovf.Yes, the csc bodies are slimmer but smaller is not enough to justify the cost for most people.

      CSC makers have to be careful not to stray[ and they are starting to] away from what makes a csc. The new om-d now looks like a full fledged dslr complete with a 2 piece brick grip at the bottom. Who would buy that 1400 dollar thing over something that is already available such as the canon 7d or the even cheaper nikon d7000? The nikon and canons also have better resale value. Try finding someone to buy your used expensive oly and panny equipment at a premium on the buy and sell. Once the big fat large aperture zooms arrive for the csc it will i think be the beginning fo the end for csc cameras, as they then won’t have a size advantage anymore. That’s what happens when you keep adding needlessly on to a system..you keep building and adding and sooner or later you end up with what the competition already had..dslr’s.

  7. The most important thing in this article is the phrase: CSC or Compact system camera.

    I think that explains the main aspect of the cameras we still call “mirrorless” much better.

  8. Splush! That’s the sound of Canon dropping the ball… in the toilet.

    Canon created the most expensive compact camera system. For an $800 price point, it’s far better to go with mirrorless.

    1. Think again.What Canon and Nikon is doing is brilliant. The g1x and the nikon 1 series are just a stop gap measure to bide time until the day when ps cameras will have lager sensors than m43. It’s only a matter of time when that happens. If you recall the heyday of film, there was only room for 2 types of cameras, ps and slr’s. Aps tried but failed because there was literally no gap between ps and slr’s. Every 35mm camera used the same size film…so quality was not an issue, as it is with sensors today due to size. Fast forward to digital, most dslrs have smaller then FF sensors, while ps camera have miniscule sensors. m43 took advantage of this large gap…oferring near dslr quality but at a smaller size.

      The Canon g1x is the fore runner of ps digital cameras moving to close that gap once again. And when the day comes that ps cameras have aps-c sensors, the gap which allows m43 to exist now will close and we will be back to the 2 camera method we had when film was around. Interchangeable lens capabilities with m43 will not be enough to keep m43 alive..just ask aps cameras. It’s not that i want to see m43 gone but the writing is already on the wall. If you look at history you can almost always predict the future. The Canon g1x is a landmark camera because when we look back 20 years from now, we will all remember the camera that started the comeback of large sensors and great IQ to ps digital cameras. And, like the pas and pen f film cameras..m43 will just be another Olympus footnote in history.

  9. Canon needs to improve the EF-S and EF lenses so that they don’t have holes in their lens line-up and can create complete systems for amatuers/enthusiasts with crop bodies vs. the pro (L-class) lens with FF bodies.

    After that, they need to develop an EOS body that has no mirror, with hybrid AF and bybrid EVF using the same mount and lens systems. Their current form factor works fine and is well proven. They can always shave off size and weight that scales to their EOS line. I see no sense in competing with m4/3 by creating a new system. Without good lenses, the Sony NEX will die.

  10. Canon and Nikon can trade insults until the real contenders for properly done mirror less bury them

    fuji olympus panasonic sony and now pentax and ricoh… even samsung

    while canon does fanboy stuff and nikon make overpriced small sensor cams without proper controls …. the 2 of you become more irrelevent by the minute

    1. The g1x is the harbinger of bad things to come for m43. Point and shoot digital cameras with aps c sensors. m43 is basically a g1x with the ability to change lenses. But changing lenses isn’t a great concern of most camera consumers. Remember aps cameras? Why you think they died out? Once Canon and Nikon ps cameras have aps c sensors or larger, it will be time to mourn m43.Why would canon make a mirrorless system when they know that someday their ps cameras will have the same size sensor at lower cost? Canon and Nikon know there isn’t room fro 3 types of cameras.It will come back to what it was near the end of film..with just slrs and ps cameras..nothing in between.

  11. First, Nikon do not lead anything on mirrorless, second, the sensor and lens are good, but far from excellent. Third, even if i agree, this was a stupid comment…….and for last my Dslr is a nikon…..sony, panasonic and olympus are the leaders here. Period. The nikon 1 series is niche as the G1x..both are far from what someone would expect from Nikon and Canon.

  12. If you look at the last page of Conclusion in the Focus Numerique review…The cons outweigh the pros for the Canon G1X..and it comes off as a heavy slow (almost) viewfinderless camera. For $800 you have to be more than a fanboy to buy that with all the other incredible camera options that there are out there on the market these days!!!! No?

  13. with the new Oly EM5 coming out the G1X has little chance I think..about same size with pancake lens or Panny X zoom..was too $$ for what is out now on the market

  14. Relax everybody. Don`t you see the light? Canon is just probing the waters with G1X and like Fuji with it`s X100, will soon evolve into G1X PRO with exchangeble L lenses and some other suprises. Whithold the breath and prepare the money for comming X-MAS-PRO! HO-HO-HO!

  15. Who cares? Nikon puts out a little purse candy goodie, Canon offers an oversized, overpriced point and shoot and
    everybody (that needs sponsor dollars) goes ga-ga. Watch
    the Nikon 7200 look a lot like the G1X. Put an interchangeable lens on the G1X and it looks like the Fuji X1 – which can hopefully use EF lenses.
    Bah humbug!

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