It’s Christmas rumor time 🙂
SamsungCameraRumors reports:
Samsung is seriously considering to launch a special NX1-lx camera version with lower than 20 megapixel sensor. It will have 1 stop better High ISO performance than the current NX1. And it has 2 stop better high ISO than the current NX30/NX300 cameras.
The likely release of the camera is second half of 2015.
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Hmm. So the current nx1 should be 1 stop better than nx300? Let me doubt about that, after looking at studio samples on dpr.
Anyway a lower mp count camera with better dr and high iso is interesting for many, considering the big difference in iq among aps-c and full frame.
where do you find NX1 studio samples on dpr ?
The NX1 is easily the best APS-C sensor on the market, similar to what my A7 (and A7II) could do for high ISO, or very close to it, which is not a particularly great sensor from the A99.
Mauni, under reviews and new studio comparison, hopefully this link works:
http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/image-comparison?attr18=daylight&attr13_0=samsung_nx1&attr13_1=fujifilm_xt1&attr13_2=sony_a7_ii&attr13_3=sony_a6000&attr15_0=raw&attr15_1=raw&attr15_2=raw&attr15_3=raw&attr16_0=6400&attr16_1=6400&attr16_2=6400&attr16_3=6400&normalization=full&widget=1&x=0.009559717254174715&y=0.008217837614957327
Only the XT1 shows the least noise, but the demosaicing acts as a heavy noise reduction, so could do similar with other cameras, XT1 has no choice and you lose a lot of detail as evident in that comparison.
This is nx1 at 3200 vs nx300 at 1600. The latter imo has less noise and show better detail, so there is NOT 1 stop difference. The same holds for 6400vs3200.
http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/image-comparison?attr18=daylight&attr13_0=samsung_nx1&attr13_1=samsung_nx300&attr13_2=sony_a7_ii&attr13_3=sony_a6000&attr15_0=raw&attr15_1=raw&attr15_2=raw&attr15_3=raw&attr16_0=3200&attr16_1=1600&attr16_2=3200&attr16_3=3200&normalization=print&widget=1&x=0.009559717254174715&y=0.008217837614957327
“Hmm. So the current nx1 should be 1 stop better than nx300? Let me doubt about that, after looking at studio samples on dpr.”
Keep in mind that NX1 studio shots were made with a zoom.
You are comparing high ISO noise mixed with more (zoom lens) vs less (prime lens) of the lens softness.
DPR got lazy.
Oh, that’s a good point! Did they use a different lens for nx1 and nx300? That said, I still see more noise (especially chroma) in nx1 at 3200 compared to nx300 at 1600, both viewed at the same size. I’m not saying that nx1 is not (slightly) better than nx300 at same iso, but imho 1 stop difference is not there. Perhaps 1/3, dunno. 1 stop is, for example, among nx300 and d810.
SamsungCameraRumors ===> anti Samsung ?
SamsungCameraRumors ===> anti Samsung ?
What about buffering performance of this new incoming camera? Should be better, considering smaller files. Could be the real action camera beast that the nx1 should have been, with better low light and more raw buffer!
P.s. less than 20mp…but how much less?
Dpreview
http://www.dpreview.com/articles/2056499097/studio-update-cameras-added-that-you-may-have-missed
I would take it. 28mp files are a bit overkill although the camera is really fast and handles them quickly.
Increase in noise performance is always welcome and I have found 20mp from the NX300 perfectly fine in all scenarios. I would take 18mp if it meant ISO 6400 looked like ISO 1600! “Completely usable ISO 10,000” would be awesome to hear about an NX1 variant.
AF still needs some work, it isn’t up to DSLR level so improvements there are more than welcome too.
The NX1 is Samsung’s first serious camera so lessons learned from it can only help future NX* models (and NX**/NX*** models as well).
Decrease in mp number is not going to improve 6400 to 1600. More likely it would improve 25600 to 16000.
28MP on APS-C is well beyond the resolving power of optical glass. 18-20MP make more sense even if the only benefits are smaller files and a more efficient use of the buffer. It’s a pity. Samsung has been so keen to satisfy market greed that it seems to have neglected the principles of sound engineering. The NX mount is based on sensible optical design (unlike Sony’s E(F) mount) and deserves a camera which can make the most of it. Hopefully a lower-res NX1 makes it to market soon.
Where do you get that 28mpix is “well beyond resolving power of optical glass”… ? Can you point to any data showing this and the consequences? I am seeing a clear increase in resolution when comparing 16 or 20 mpix images to the ones of the NX1, how is it possible if you are right?
I also think that 28mp is overkill for most uses, but I wouldn’t like a camera with less than 16mp. So for me the sensor should be among 16 and 20….with 20 as a sweetspot, if 1 to 2 stops better than nx300.
Sounds like a modern day equivalent to the Nikon D3! high ISO smaller MP – than the current 28 MP. Samsung is making serious waves with their offerings.