Spanish DSLR Magazine (machine translated) published a long interview with Richard Shepherd, Senior Product Specialist for the EOS system, Canon Europe. And once again it becomes clear that unlike Fuji and Sony Canon has no plan yet to go into the PRO market with their mirrorless M system. I guess that they will wait until Fuji and Sony will release their FF mirrorless cameras in 2013 to see the market response.
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hmmmm so they want to compete in the lower end market along with the lower end NEX’s, m43’s and the nikon 1’s?
it’s low margin so you’ve got to expect to sell alot of these… this also implies the lens line-up would be limited!
Bunch of losers!
I hate this attitude by Canon, they were innovation leaders with the 5D and 5D II and they just let it slip away. Too bad.
Bah who cares. There are plenty of decent alternatives out there and if they don’t want our business, well that’s their loss 🙂
that bold statement = the end of EOS M
slowest AF, highest pricing, no thanks…. i am happy with NEX & M4/3
Not only did Canon dig it’s own grave with this statement, turn off a LOT of people who have deep faith in Canon products, but just made Sony, Olympus and Fuji very happy. Olympus, for one, and others, have realized that the future of photography is in mirrorless. More and more professionals, including myself, are embracing them. DSLRs won’t be abandoned completely because they are a necessity for many types of work, but the line is blurring. Wake up Canon! Oh, never mind, I’ve already abandoned Canon well over a year ago after 11 years. Sorry! Gotta go where the Camera makers are making what “I” want, not what “they” want. Although I do not own Sony products, they are listening, so I just may in the near future!
Smart move by Canon!
With adapters enabling the EOS to be used on Sony NEX bodies (and possibly faster focus than the EOS-M), it will be a huge drain for Canon. Better to throw in the towel now and cut their losses.
After the same statement said recently , I’ve bought EM-5 already and give-up waiting for a pro EOS-M .
On the other hand, I’m planning to sold all my canon gears to join M43 ….
I did the same 3 years back. Had a Canon 40D and a stable of L lenses that I had been using since my original Canon EOS 1 and 3 film cameras.
Bought a GF1 and grandfathered my Canon gear to my dad. My back and shoulders definitely thank me for that.
m43 lens lineup is very strong these days, there are very few gaps (tilt-shift) and quite a few nice specialty lenses (f/0.95s, 12/1.6) that have no direct equivalent in other formats.
http://hazeghi.org/mft-lenses.html
And with the E-M5 and E-PL5, m43 is finally getting world-class sensors.
Yep yep, not regretting the day for buying Nex-7. I just wished it was next spring already, when Zeiss will start selling their new mirrorless lenses.
Bye, bye Canon … now i don’t need even your dslr.
Thanks for letting me know there is no sense waiting for you Canon. I’ll go ahead and order a NEX 6 now.
They wont have the choice, unless they wanna join Kodak.
All marketing, if they would say a EOS-M Pro is comming next year, who will buy the DSLRs and entry level EOS-M?
But Canon lost overall the last years. The EOS 5D was an innovation, the 5D Mark II was an improvement, the EOS 6, seems not to be significantly better than the EOS 5D Mark II …
Nowadays the Fuji x-e1 and Sony Nex 7 are far away from the EOS-M line, sorry what line, there is only one entry level camera to buy but soon not yet.
Nokia missed as well the mobile phone trend and the question is, will they catch up?
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You keep saying Fuji will release FF ILC, even though it was already shown that Fuji’s X mount (unlike Sony’s E-mount) is too small for FF. It’s physically impossible to fit FF in X-mount.
I think the EOS M system have a great potential, but Canon have to make us believe they are dedicated to the system and will develop it further. There is no way I will buy that point and shoot EOS M with only two lenses on the market. They must show a roadmap for the lenses and make some statements about future plans for Pro or Prosumer models. Else, we will all go Fuji ;o)
glad i moved over to micro 43s!! Im really loving what all the companies are doing in this space incept for nikon and cannon. I think there the RIM of camera makers.
Canon? Do they make cameras too?
” I guess that they will wait until Fuji and Sony will release their FF mirrorless cameras in 2013 to see the market response.”
I think this is exactly what they are doing.
Just because they say they are not doing something, doesn’t mean they are not doing R&D in that area.
I dream of an EOS M-PRO Weather proof, built like a tank, high-rez EVF,
21MP FF sensor showcasing all their best tech(Low noise & high DR)…sigh…
Something like this in a FF EVIL would make me very happy.
http://static.bhphoto.com/images/largeimages/888168.jpg
I think they have a lens problem. Meanwhile they have good digital lenses, but the years before, like nikon, they had only (extrem) tele in good quality. But mirrorless means, you need new lenses again, and they need time. To make a pro kamera with these bad lenses is not the way for canon.
But who need them? Only pros who have a guy to carry the manny kg and don’t care about the price.
Both Canon and Nikon are in a difficult position. They have a huge range of FF and APSC DSLR products which makes up the majority of their profitable camera business. A mirrorless system should not have its design constrained by legacy DSLR products. Quite aside from the mount, a compelling mirrorless range should have smaller lenses, faster, lighter focusing elements (for portability, CDAF accuracy and battery life). So, really, to fully embrace mirrorless, Canon and Nikon have to create a whole new range of products.
This situation moves Canon/Nikon from leaders in DSLR to playing catchup in mirrorless. They are a long way behind Panasonic, Olympus and Sony. The M System shows this very clearly. Because they are so far behind they can’t afford to try and compete with large well financed electronics companies. Canon/Nikon’s camera and optic pedigree counts for less and less going forward.
So what can they do apart from offer an upgrade option for P&S customers and avoid cannibalizing their entry level and pro DSLR range?
Canon and Nikon are going the same way as Sega and Atari when the big tech companies Sony and Microsoft entered the console gaming market.
Canon is done.
I would say Nikon is in a worse off situation, at least Canon have a strong corporate business going with printing and all; Nikon got nothing but cameras, any major shift in the market will be significant, Nikon’s mirrorless entry is more of a joke than anything.
Are you guys kidding? Canon is done? OMG inc ase you havent noticed the folks who use cameras are mostly still using etiehr PS or dslr or dslr PS type cameras. Most pros still use dslrs. CSC camera are good for light tele small tele lenses and below, once cameras get bigger, it’s back to dslrs, Canona nd Nikon and just about anyone with common sense knows this. Look at the shite Pano gh3, that thing is as big as dslrs, has a smaller sensor, and costs almost as much as a 6d and d600. The point of CSC is its compactness, and removing the mirror to make a camera thats the same size is not a gain, but a loss.
As for Canon being behind, I’m not so sure you guys understand the market. Someday ALL PSS cameras will have apsc sensor, its going to get there, not a question of if but when.Most folks who buy csc cameras dont by more than one other lens if any at all. Enthusiasts use the fuji x cameras, and thats a small market, the rest use lower csc cameras like the nex 5 which will be flanked by the future of small apsc PS cameras. Why should Canon and Nikon make a system that will evnetually DIE out? Does anyone remember aps film cameras? Look what happended to them. The gap that lets csc cameras exist will be filled and aside forma couple of highend csc’s, there wont be much pie left to get when PS cameras and dslrs close the gap.Has anyone seen any working pro use a Fuji or Sony? Nope. They use dslrs for a reason…as long as that reason exists, the dslr will never go away. You cant tell a sports pro to use a 20 lb lens on a Fuji x can you? Making a true por csc is silly, especially when you have to beef it up with a big grip to make it useful to even hold for pros, not to mention that ANY EVF is shite compared to OVF..ANY.
I think you guy’s and gals are not putting the whole thing in perspective, and leaving out some major competition that will put a hurt on Canon and Nikon. Have any of you tried the Olympus OMD yet? I have shot with both Canon and Nikon systems and currently have a D800 and recently purchased an OMD EM5 for a small light weight package and since that purchase my D800 sees very little daylight! If Canon and Nikon doesn’t come out with a more serious and pro level Mirrorless system they are going to be on the tail end of this wave of new technology. Micro four thirds is that good now.