An imaginary (and rather cool!) Full Frame Canon mirrorless.
Something is moving at Canon! It really looks like Canon is finally going to launch their first Full Frame Mirrorless system camera within the next 12 months. A prototype or almost final version could be announced at Photokina in September at earliest. I am wondering if the FF camera will use the current EOS-M mount or a completely newly designed mount.
There is also a second highly interesting news. The newly developed 120 Megapixel Full Frame sensor is not a RGB Bayer sensor! it uses a sort of Foveon alike tech. Sounds intriguing!
Source: Canonwatch (1) and Canonwatch (2).
25 Responses
This concept is from a story posted in March 2012.
http://www.cnet.com/news/what-canons-interchangeable-lens-camera-should-look-like/
Looks like Canon’s FF mirrorless could be too little, too late if it takes another year to produce a prototype.
By the time canon will announce it’s prototype FF mirrorless camera – Sony will release A7Rmk3 or A9 already and will be working on A7Rmk4 and A9Mkii LOL
Besides Canon will as usual cripple its video abilities and something else too and put a price 1/2 higher than latest Sony tech. 🙂
Not unlikely, but I still hope Sony won’t be the only one left out there.
1+1=2. Canon will launch their first full frame mirrorless camera equipped with their own 120 megapixel non Bayer sensor in one year time. A pro model is also planned to follow later the same year. lol
I really like the thumb wheel (for exposure compensation) in the back of Canon cameras; faster to operate than a dial on top as some makers use.
I really hope Canon is finally going to take a serious attempt at mirrorless, I’d love to see a responsive, compact, FF mirrorless with an EVF that has 1D build quality, I miss my 1DIII, but I don’t miss its size.
Something along the lines of a FF NEX-7 would make me very happy.
It’s hopefully not a mirrorless camera for beginner…..
Every year Canon rumors surface about a serious mirrorless and nothing happens. Then a random APSC EOSM comes out that lags behind a 2 year old Sony and the world yawns. Rinse and repeat in 12 months.
I’d love to see this cycle end but have been disappointed too many times to believe.
Now that Leica SL has shown that a mirrorless camera can be big, and it’s not mandatory to build a tiny camera crowded with tiny buttons, perhaps Canon will start to develop a mirrorless version of 1DX. Personally, 120mp leave me quite cold, since I’m not used to crop my photos.
Leica has shown the exact things not to do :
– bad high ISO performance
– average, expensive and really heavy “kit-zoom”
– bulky body with lack of ergonomy and contested design
Quite subjective, because:
-at what iso do you usually work? (How could you take photos just a couple of years ago?)
-the lens seems optically good, not just average. Perhaps you need an f2.8 through all the zoom, but it’s not mandatory. Expensive for most of us, me included, but it’s not the point (an 1dx is not cheap)
-bulky body to allow the use of bigger lenses, I’d say, and I prefer it over a tiny body cramped with buttons and a big lens on the front. Lack of ergonomy: I still have to try it, so I can’t say yet, you either. I love the design, but again, it’s subjective.
So far mirrorless cameras have been small, tiny. Perhaps to push the portability factor.
But there are physical limits, due to the big 35mm sensor, the mount flange distance: Canon has a big line of lenses for its dslr cameras, and I think its main problem is that it cannot introduce a new mount and leave the current lenses to a market (dslr) that eventually is going to disappear.
I think that they might release a camera big enough to accomodate their bigger lenses.
That’s why I mentioned the SL: it’s the first mirrorless camera with the size of a dslr (objective fact).
Another fake post written to boost web ranking !
This concept look gorgeous… This is how the Leica SL should have look.
No, because it would have eaten the M system market. A couple of months ago I was speaking to someone “high in the castle” of Leica, and I was told that to their surprise the Q ate many M sells. And the SL would have been something different, also to prevent that.
(That’s why I’m not waiting for a Q with interchangeable lenses)
Agree that this concept looks beautiful.
120 megapixel Foveon = 40 megapixel in reality, as marketeers use a dubious 3x number rather than the actual number of photo sites.
And the EF-M mount is too small to fit a full frame sensor.
A mirrorless full frame Canon is inevitable. The real question is if it will be EF-mount, or if they will introduce yet another (EF-M 2.0) mount.
“.. the EF-M mount is too small to fit a full frame sensor.”
Are you sure? – If Sony can do it with their E-mount, Canon should be able to with the even larger diameter M mount (same flange distance).
http://petapixel.com/2015/10/28/canon-reportedly-working-on-a-full-frame-mirrorless-eos-m-camera/
The Canon sensor has 5 layers. UV and IR will be used to improve color and focus beyond what a foveon sensor can do or was previously able to do with the Merrils. canon is on the right track here and if they can overcome the issues of a stacked sensor with that much data in transport, they will be producing an amazing sensor and camera. I will be waiting for this one. There is no question that a full spectrum stacked sensor will produce amazing clarity and color rendition. Skin tones have always been a canon strong point and there is little doubt that this will continue. This is no surprise btw, as the patent filing was posted months ago. I hope that canon will offer this camera with a fixed 45mm f1.8 lens w/macro and a couple front mounted converters. I see no reason for an interchangeable system on the first release of this sensor/camera. Optimize it for stellar performance, please canon. Mirrorless needs a worthy successor to the Sigma Merrils.
High Iso are always helpfull in some conditions and combination of 24mp / average high iso is a deception for this luxury item. A7RII is better in resolution, high-iso noise and most modern cameras seems to handle high isos in a better way.
This zoom doesn’t have fixed aperture, is big, expensive and image quality isn’t that goot neither, most review say it’s a deception. I can consider someone want to pay a premium price for a premium lens, this one isn’t (except for build quality).
First reports agree on lack of reactivity with touchscreen, strange buttons placement and unusual ergonomy (unusual can sometimes be better).
Canon could / should use their existing lenses with adaptors just in the same way Sony (and others) use Canon lenses. Of course, the problem of developping / selling both mount is intact and probably the main reason why Canikon are not really invested in mirrorless…
Samsung NX1 also share the form-factor with DSLR.
Foveon is incredible!
IF they make a full frame mirrorless, i just hope it’s easy to use existing EF glass, cause that would be a huge factor for me
I can see it now a rebranded A7R with wood trim and a red line going all the way around it. Can’t wait!
I suspect
126mp ff mirrorles Canon camera
With FOVEON / Canon technology sensor.
Since this would be based on the two week old Sogma/Canon technology sharing agreement we may also see proprietary Canon technology in some Sigma lenses.
Sorry but my BS-meter just went over scale. Original rumor source claims that RGB- sensor does not work for over 100Mpix sensors and that is just utter crap. This is not a reliable rumor.
Canon couldn’t even compete in APS-C mirrorless. Amount of R&D needed for FF is much higher.
canon logic: if we cant gain any dynamic range… then we’ll increase our mp count to make the fools think that the camera is insanely good
Mirrorless is nice, but I wish Canon’s next 5D generation has dynamic range as good as the A7RII and in-camera IS. 5-axis or not, I just want IS in the camera. And most importantly, existing EF lens line must work with it without adapter. Canon has the first mirrorless, what happened? Unbelievable!