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RAW-noise and AF-speed comparison (X-E2 vs A7), X-E2 reviews, X10 price drop and FujiXday in Rome

X10 price drop

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Get the Fuji X10 for $ 299 at BHphoto here!

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comparisons
Fuji X-E2: [shopcountry 17992]

– NOISE: Yes, it’s again, Full Frame vs APS-C, or [shoplink 19559]Sony A7[/shoplink] vs [shoplink 17992]X-E2[/shoplink]. It may be unfair, but many reviewes are tempted to compare the performance of the 2 hot cameras of the moment. So, how does both cameras handle RAW-noise at the various ISO settings? Jordans says:

“First, the Fuji ISO ratings are somewhat overstated.  In examining some test images, it appears that at the same shutter speed and aperture setting, the listed ISOs are roughly 1/3 stop apart.  So, to set a fair fight here, I shot the A7 with a 1/3 stop lower ISO than the Fuji and set the shutter speed and aperture of each camera to be identical.

One area where Fuji’s X-Trans sensor does excel is in color noise suppression. […], the Fuji does a little better job at controlling color noise.

there is no real difference in noise performance between the two cameras for most any setting. […] The fact that the Fuji X-E2 can hold its own in the noise department with a brand new, very high-end full frame sensor is frankly remarkable.  Fuji’s done a great job with their X-series cameras and it shows here.” See the comparison here at admiringlight.

– AF-SPEED: Fuji X-E2 vs Sony A7r AF-speed comparison in this youtube video.

– X-E2 vs Mark 5D III ([shoplink 13457]specs&price[/shoplink]) at andrewvanbeek here: “While I’m not including any side by side comparison shots from the 5D Mark III and the Fuji X-E2, suffice to say that I have not found a single instance where the quality of the X-E2 was such that I could really tell the difference between the 2 cameras.”

– Nikon D4 ([shoplink 19911]specs&price[/shoplink]) vs Fuji X E2 in Studio at stanleyleary.com here: “I shot at the lowest recommended ISO for each manufacturer […] I suggest downloading the high resolution and do all the pixel peeping you like.” For his second post “Fuji X E2 vs Nikon D4 with x-rite Mini ColorChecker” click here. In a third post “Loving the Fuji X E2 for Portraits” he takes some portrait shots with the 18-55. Read more here.

– Mike Croshaw: “Heya,  I’ve been shooting a lot in the studio with the X-E2 and wrote up a short article about how it compared to the X-E1.  Feel free to share if you think it might be of interest.” Check it out here.

reviews

– Spectacular dynamic range (“the most amazing aspect of the Fuji X-E2“), quick and responsive, very good color accuracy, the automatic white-balance handles natural and artificial lighting “surprisingly well“… all this (and more) makes the X-E2 an excellent camera. But at ISO 800+ images (JPEG) are soft from the overly aggressive noise-reduction (so shoot RAW or change your NR settings). But read more at neocamera here.

– techradar‘s X-E2 review here: “The introduction of Lens Modulation Optimiser technology also brings an improvement in image quality across the frame. […] The majority of photographers who use the X-E2 are likely to shoot raw files, so they are unlikely to be concerned about the painterly effects that appear in out of focus areas in some JPEGs.”

– “This is the Fuji you’ve been waiting for!” says fstoppers.com here: “As soon as I learnt how to shoot with it, it became fun. A LOT of fun! […] If you’re looking for a light, discreet camera with some great glass to carry around for travel, street or just everyday shooting, the X-E2 will tick all of those boxes perfectly and the image quality won’t let you down. The images you get from this thing are great, and while it’s not “cheap”, for the price of the body and some nice fast lenses, it feels like great value.”

Fuji X-E2: [shopcountry 17992]

FujiXday Rome

– Free entry, free workshops (including Max Angeloni’s street photography workshop) and plenty of X-gear (including the X-E2 and XQ1)! You’ll find all this in Rome tomorrow, December 18. For more details click here.

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  1. I’d just like to say that I bought an X10 a few months ago, and as a rank amateur at photography, I am delighted. It would be awesome even at the old price, but the new price rocks.

  2. I have the X10 also, do I feel the need to upgrade to an X20? No. Do I feel the need to upgrade my X-Pro1? Yes. What does that tell you?

  3. Not really a price drop, the X10 has been at that price for some weeks now, and I believe it was previously reported as such on FujiRumors at least a couple weeks ago.

  4. It’s interesting how people are lined up with money in hand for an updated XP1, but Fuji doesn’t want to take it.

    1. Yes, it is a little odd. However, a salesperson at camera store told me that Fuji will be announcing the X-Pro 2 in March 2014. That said, perhaps they are hesitant because they don’t have a sufficient upgrade for the OVF or because they can’t realistically sell it for more than $1500…Perhaps it won’t be profitable if the price is less than $1500, which it needs to be to sell well.

    2. Yep, I count about 50 different individuals (maybe less) who keep posting “give us full frame” in forums and blogs like Fujirumors. Of course, for half of them it’s just talk, as they would always find an excuse not to buy the camera once it is actually available (too expensive, too heavy, OVF still the same, AF not fast enough, X-Trans issues, corner smearing with some obscure M lens etc.), so in the end, Fuji could certainly sell 25 cameras to the forum freaks, half of which would then go on badmouthing it in the usual fashion (see the current X-E2 discussion at DPR and elsewhere for reference) to make sure the camera remains a colossal flop.

      Of course, Fuji may (probably will) still eventually offer a FF MILC (X-Pro2) with 3 prime lenses, basically a rehash of what came about in January 2012. They will lose money doing so, but they may regard it as a technology statement, basically telling the world “we are in the FF game, too”. However, that’s when thinks will start to get interesting, because it would be totally unclear if Fuji would go ahead and also offer additional FF bodies (w/o OVF) and zoom lenses, like they did with the X-E1. It may well be that such an X-Pro2 with its 3 FF lenses remains in an isolated niche. By featuring a 36 MP sensor, it would still be fully crop compatible with the current 16 MP X-Trans, so all those APS-C lenses could still be used in 16 MP mode.

      That way, such an X-Pro2 would still be an APS-C camera and part of the current X-Mount system (with access to then about 20 native APS-C X-Mount primes and zooms), but a truly “professional” one with a built-in “full-frame option” and 3 expensive, high-quality primes to go along with it.

      1. Personally, I am happy with my X-Pro 1 and would be happy to see an update to the X-Pro 1 (APS-C). And, when viewing online, I don’t see much of a difference in image quality compared to full frame, except for shallower dof. Despite all the hype about the A7r, I find it difficult to find high-quality images in the A7r group on Flickr, which is likely not an issue with the camera, but rather the users’ ability.

        I just ordered the XF23mm f/1.4 R and I am looking forward to using it on my so-called quirky, obsolete X-Pro 1, which is actually a great camera that I will be able to use for years – even when I upgrade it.

      2. If they only develop 3 lenses for it, I recommend 21mm, 50mm, and 90mm. I don’t see why you seem so upset. If Fuji were to introduce a full frame X-Pro 2, it would likely be a beautiful camera. But, you are perhaps right that people will complain about its slower AF speed, as it will not likely have phase detection (A7r doesn’t have it) and full frame sensors generally have slower AF.

        I don’t think Fuji’s full frame MILC will receive the same complaints as the A7r regarding poor performance with Leica lenses, as Fuji will likely design high-quality lenses for the system, so people will not have to rely on third-party lenses.

      3. I actually agree with you.

        Fuji won’t plunge into FF unless necessarily as they’ve just established APS-C. However since the A7 is the first FF mirrorless, they will really want to see how the market reacts. The whole of the internet maybe going wild, but at the end of the day will the A7 sell? If it sells like hotcakes, Nikon and Canon will pile in quick.

        Without a first mover advantage, can Fuji play this FF mirrorless game against the established players? If anything their product will be niche, and therefore they’d need to position themselves between Leica & CANIKONSONYs. With the X-trans array high ISO noise in APS-C comparable to Bayer FF, they may have a 2 stops advantage. Therefore if they launch the X-pro3 new FF lenses, they’d have a reason to go higher end and brand it like LEICA + AF + Super High ISO.

        At that point, less than 25 of these forum people will buy it though. I might though…

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