Back in January Samsung unveiled that a new NX1 flagship camera would come this year (article here). And now Photorumors reports that this camera will shoot 4K video and feature a new 28 Megapixel APS-C sensor.
After the GH4 and Sony A7s this would become the third mirrorless camera shooting 4K. But I think more companies (Canon, Olympus for example) will announce 4K cameras at Photokina.
I am a bit surprised to hear the camera will feature a 28 MP sensor. It would become the highest resolution APS-C camera to date. And unlike the GH4 and A7s such a sensor could show more moiree and issues on 4K videos. Or did Samsung find a way to solve that problem?
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The 4K hype attacks again! 😉 No problem if you also can shoot high quality HD resolution and price is reasonable. Interesting to see if they are going to maintain the same sensor format and lenses.
I hope they include a binned down Full HD 120 fps mode as well.
Full HD 120 fps is a much larger quality gain then 4K 30 fps, compared to Full HD 30 fps.
Agree. A full HD high speed mode would be really useful.
I’m totally uninterested in 4k video (and to video in general into a camera), but I’ll be very happy if samsung FINALLY announce a new sensor with higher mp count, as long as it’s also better than the old one for dr and high iso performance.
What do you need higher MP for? In my opinion current 20 MPx is more than enough. Also I am afraid decent outcome from 28 MPx APSC is beyond Samsung´s possibilities.
I also think 20 MP is more than enough. In fact, I´d be happy with 12 MP, but Sony also cramed 21 MP in RX100 1″ sensor… Endless MP race madness!
if you think 12 MP is good MP count for 1″, then aps-c NX can live with exact same pixels on larger area, producing MP count 12*(2.7/1.5)^2 = 39 megapixels. It’s not mad
No, I mean 12 MP is good enough for APSC and FF too.
More pixels are great for landscapes.
– More fine grained noise
– Less impact of mapped out dead pixels
– At low iso it should give better crop possibility (digital zoom), that under the same circumstances should reduce the need for tele, zooms and long zoom ranges.
But i hope they launch a low Mp count speedy camera too.
Well I think if there is some producer that should avoid high MPx count it is Samsung, since it is known for huge RAW files. I am aware they are working on this and made RAW files smaller (compared to NX20) but still their RAWs are bigger than from other similar cameras. And again: I doubt Samsung can improve image quality (sensor) so much that it outweighs the dramatic MPx rise.
High mp is good for cropping (samsung has nice 20 and 30mm pancakes, you can have them always on the camera and then crop a bit to make perfect 50-70mm equivalent shoots).
Then of course it’s great for landscapes, as already noted.
Last but not least, some quality nx lenses, like 85mm, outresolve the present 20mp sensor.
Where is the rumoured fullframe? 😉 Mirrorless rumors wrote the NX1 was supposed to be FF. Anyhow I agree it is much more reasonable to make top-notch APSC (and continue in making new APSC lenses) than to create new system with need for new FF lenses. The current top-of-the-line NX30 is still mediocre (see the review on dpreview).
DPreview´s “Silver award” is not “mediocre” in my opinion, but a very good rating. The problem here is you probably don´t trust on DPreview ratings or don´t understand why they give such ratings.
Try to read that review and you will see they were not raptured by the camera. Basically they wrote everything was OK, but not a single thing stood out. And in comparison with top CSCs of other producers (Oly, Fuji…) the NX30 has simply nothing to persuade the buyer to choose Samsung over E-M1 or X-T1.
Of course I read it. They are the experts and I agree the given silver award rating because also pricing is not too high. Ok, is nothing oustanding but a very good camera at a good price. Also should be noted that Samsung is not cheating customers with false ISO as others do. As DPreview states:
“In our tests we found that measured ISOs from the NX30 match the marked ISOs within 1/6 stop accuracy, meaning ISO 100 indicated = ISO 100 measured.”
When a news about nx gets out, there are the usual few ones who claim than their cameras are #1. I own three, so I’m not against them at all, but I’m very fair and earnest and recognize that these products are ‘quite’ good, but far from outstanding (as both sony a6000 and fuji x-t1 and em1, imo, are).
We’ll see if finally samsung can deliver with nx1. It would be enough to use their latest gen smartphone hw to get a big buffer with great performance and flawless operations as it comes to speed.
So they could handle even big raw files w/o much effort.
28 Mp would make moiré even less of a problem then with 24 Mp. No lenses escapes the diffraction anti moiré effect, and no lenses are perfect diffraction limited at full opening.
But its obvioulsy not binned down to 4K and i can imagine low max fps with so many pixels in both still and video mode.
Very interested to know which professional photographer, truly living from his projects, is going to shoot with a Samsung, a non-DLSR MILC concept having a 28MP crop sensor which is likely due to its pixel density going to have a below par noise performance.Not to mention the same type of professional who is going to shoot a 4K movie with it. Or there are things we don’t know and we can be wrong – but the entire MILC niche is rapidly approaching its saturation and I can hardly believe this is the camera where the professional market has been waiting for. This massive number of new releases feels exactly the same as what happened in the car industry: overproduction, a too extensive range of models that finally could appeal only to a small number of buyers and we all know what happened.
In fact, to be appealing, this camera must have better iq than any other aps-c and a competive price. And a very good evf, not an average one like nx30 has. And a great buffer performance.
I find this amusing, a pissing contest erupts over some non-issue and to qualify an off-topic remark one uses quantity to trump his point “I own an em1, xt1, and an a6000” for example was posted….. How does what one owns have anything to do with Samsung camera performances? Maybe sit them all in a row on one of those Boy Scout Pine Box Derby tracks and see which one rolls to the bottom in first place? Maybe that matters?
I’m tired of reading that the A7 shoots 4k. The Sony A7 does not shoot 4k. It can record to an external recorder at 4k resolution. (Such a recorder costs 2 thousand dollars, and renders the size of the camera irrelevant, because a tripod is required.) But anyway, back to the point: the A7 is capable of sending 4k data to another device, but the A7 cannot shoot 4k by itself; the A7 needs another device for 4k to be possible.