And here it is the first Full Frame mirrorless camera that is not a $7000 rangefinder Leica! The image shows the RX1-OMD mixed design. This is the A7 (24MP camera) but there will be also an equal looking A7r version with 36MP and no AA filter. Along the two A7 cameras Sony will also launch the RX10 1 inch and incredible 24-200mm f/2.8 (constant aperture!) camera. All that nice stuff will be announced on Wednesday Oct 16 at 5-6am London time.
Quite exciting what Sony is going to launch soon!
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seems sony has a winner here.
Let’s hope there is no major deal-breaker and cameras perform as they should.
And let’s hope they produce enough lenses in the next months to make those cameras actually usable
“(and price leaked too)”
what is the price?
A7 BODY $1,698.00
A7 28-70MM KIT $1,998.00
A7R BODY $2,198.00
DSC-RX10 : $1,298.00
lets just hope they come out with some good glass and have a battery that lasts !
the RX10 sounds like a nice pocket camera if it stays flat enough ?
my biggest thing will be how does it focus in low light and moving objects ? very interesting though 🙂
should have said how will the A bodies focus 🙂
I’m glad that I dont’ buy E-M1 yet.
E-M1 and A7 iare in the same price range.
Yes – on the face of it, a7 sales should kill E-M1 (except for those heavily bought into the system).
Curious that SonOly – with Oly a virtual division of Sony now – would encourage such presumed cannibalisation.
Sony is NOT a majority owner of Olympus, so Olympus is not a division of Sony, virtual or otherwise. Unless you think a system is all about the sensor size and nothing else, these new Sonys and the EM1 are not going to compete with each other. There will be enough market for both, at least until Sony builds up a lens lineup. But look how long it has taken them to do that even for the Alpha line.
Call it what you like. Sony’s $645 million is not small change – would Olympus be alive without it?
I am not a Sony user but, yes, their lens program is quite uninspired. The attraction for their FF mirrorless will, initially, be adapted glass with no crop factor.
Yes – 645M not really that much: compared to their 5.99B debt! Look at ALL the numbers, then go buy their stock (if you are that intrepid).
I never suggested Sony owned Oly, rather that it was good Oly had them as back up. A sad fate for a company with such innovative tech.
E-M1 is squarely directed at 4/3 users. Yes, m43 users of course can use it too etc but there is a whole bunch of 4/3 users who have no other way out. So the E-M1 will attract a vast group of users from bot 4/3 and m43 side. Sony otoh has to fight uphill, against other FF camera’s. I am quite sure only very few Nikon and Canon FF users will go for a Sony…where is the glass??
I have no crystal ball but I think the E-M1 has a much better makret for it than this Sony does. FF users are not your “only kitlens-users..Like with APS-c. So jumping ship won’t be done easily…
Different target audiences. Even if the bodies are the same size. MFT lenses are going to be smaller (except maybe pancakes) due to the half-frame sensor. Any E-mount FF lens is going to need to cover a much larger surface area which will result in larger and heavier lenses – especially in the telephoto range.
And for the time being, Olympus and the MFT system have a large advantage in lens selection, more than any other mirrorless system. With Sony you’ll need to use adapted lenses in most cases, which add size and the additional expense of adapters.
That said, anyone who is interested in FF should probably go for Sony unless they are heavily invested in Canon/Nikon.
MFT also have the fastest AF and the best ergonomy (touchscreen, tiltable screen, EVF, so everyone can shoot the way they want).
However I’m gonna jump in the FF wagon, I was waiting for the A7 because this body seems to be a killer, but the lens line up is way far behind Canon / Nikon. I might end up buying a D610 in the end, unfortunately.
+1 for my d610 🙂
And thats the problem. It appears that after the launch of Nex, Sony have learn’t nothing. They are about to launch a new camera system with no where near enough lenses again. A basic kit lens which is a little short on range and a few Zeiss lenses which have huge gaps within their range. Plus they are launching the basic camera first while the majority of their lens range is targeted for the 7r camera price range. For many though there simply too many missing lenses to make this an option to switch to at present. Cannot understand why they have not got Olympus designing lenses for the launch to fill in the gaps. That was one of the points of purchasing shares in Olympus in the first place.
The other problem is no inbuilt I.S which many might not consider an issue until they try to use the focus magnifier to focus their manual lenses and find they cannot hold their cameras still enough. Until the E-M5 came out that was a major issue with micro 43. Stick a 100mm lens on the A7 which uses the same evf as the E-M1 and try to get precise focus with the magnifier using 14x view. It is like trying to focus a 1400mm lens. Not easy. Focus peaking is no replacement for the 14x view when it comes to focusing. I.S on the 14x view makes a huge difference. Give it a year or so for in body I.S to be added and it will make a huge difference.
I think it is great to see these cameras coming out as they will give Canon and Nikon a shake up on their FF but not for at least a year.
“MFT lenses are going to be smaller (except maybe pancakes) due to the half-frame sensor. Any E-mount FF lens is going to need to cover a much larger surface area which will result in larger and heavier”
It’s not true nowadays, espectially when we talk about fast prime lens.
If m4/3 lens with equivalent aperture to FF lens has either the same or larger size than FF lens. For eample, Voigtlander 25/0.95 is bigger than Nikon 50/1.4G, Canon 50/1.4, and even Carl Zeiss 50/1.4 ZF. And remember that Voight is more expensive than these superb fast lens on DSLR.
In fact, FF DSLR lens (such as Zeiss 35/f2.8, Voit 40/f2) are just about pancake.
When the price of DLSR gears decreases, that of m4/3 gears increases —- This is the FACT!
Furthermore, Pana/Leica 25/1.4
f0.95 is f0.95 what ever the format. It is only the dof that is different.
I see this again and again. Yes its an impressive technical feat to focus that much light on a m43 sensor but that doesn’t stop the 50 1.4 from focusing the same amount of light over a larger area without the technical constraints and exotic glass. FF 1.4 at ISO 400 will have the exact same noise DOF and shutter speed and M43 at iso 100 and F1. You won’t be able to tell the difference.
Yes, but given the fact that T number diverges from F number more and more as F goes low, I’d prefer a – say – f2.8 lens on a FF rather than a f1.4 on a m4/3. Same theorethical dof and for sure less than 2 stops in ‘real world’ T stop scale.
RX10 sounds as a very interesting camera, but I doubt it can be compact enough while maintaining good lens quality. 24-200 8x zoom is too much. I´d much prefer a 20-80 equivalent lens instead. Pricing is also too high.
FANTASTIC……!!! all these news are great
What it has going for it is it’s the first small form FF interchangable lens camera. Against it for me is that I think it’s hideous, the VF is in the wrong place, there’s no integrated flash and I’m disappointed that there’s no IS. I expected more but I’m not surprised to be offered less.
So, I’ll pass for now and wait for a year or two. The cameras I have are so good that I don’t feel the need to rush out and buy something I’m not happy with and I know that if I bought a camera that looks like this with the features as leaked I’d regret not waiting for something that suits me better.
The specs look good – what I am curios about is the usability of the camera (AF, menu, layout, EVF, …)
Looks Goth!
> And here it is the first Full Frame mirrorless camera that is not a $7000 rangefinder Leica!
I think that was the RX1.
this one is a great tiny camera in fact , though if possible you may want to wait for the Alpha A9 ,which will be announced in next year , just before the CES2014.
“image” is a composite: left side of Nex7, right is rx1r. Compare the strap rings on the “image” body to the respective true photos of the cameras. (OM-D like periscope – who knows?)
Spec look promizing. This can really hurts Leica badly. And good to see that a brand is now entering mirrorless FF area.
In my opinion, this is not the moment to buy FF mirrorless or premium compacts. Still too expensive and competition from Fuji, Samsung, Pentax and Olympus is coming soon. I´d better wait till 1st quarter 2014.
I’m actually surprised that samsung is standing still. There were rumors about samsung’s ff much before sony…and they presented the first aps-c mirrorless camera with i. lenses (nx10) before sony.
It has a mirrorbox. optical viewfinder?
just perfect to use my Leica glasses on fullframe.
I hope there’s a leica adapter very soon, since It’s not m4/3 mount? Is it e-mount?
And then there needs to be infinity focus and I’ll buy tha shit out of it.
A true alternative to the Leica M