A saw that readers spotted a Russian Store (Fotosklad.ru) listing the Sony A7000. Those specs are likely to not be true. So don’t take it too seriously.
All I heard os far about the new High End APS-C E-mount camera is that it will ship in February-March.
via SonyAlphaForum
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If these specs are likely to not be true, then I assume you must have some specs which are more likely to be true. Yes?
Exactly! And what’s the point of even posting it if it’s known to be a fake?
Exactly my thought.
It’s a real rumor, just not a correct one. 🙂
To prevent his inbox from exploding!
Very likely they are true, must be in late january. Some doubts about proper pricing (more likely about 59900)
Unless Sony release more apsc lenses there isn’t much point releasing apsc cameras. FF lenses are too big, too expensive and too long on apsc.
Depends how big or expensive a new A7000/flagship APS-C body is, wouldn’t you say?
I would welcome a larger APS-C body with larger grip for using lenses such as the FE 70-200mm or FE 90mm macro.
Or you can just buy a dslr
What good is that if you have a selection of E/FE lenses?
What good is that if you don’t want to use antiquated technology?
“antiquated technology”?
Like what?
You say,
“I would welcome a larger APS-C body with larger grip”
Why would you buy an A6000 instead of Nikon D5500 if you’re going to make it bigger with a grep and as you said yourself, you’re welcoming a bigger body?
Wasn’t one of the main points of mirrorless cameras is having a “smaller” body? How does that make sense?
PS. I am a DSLR and Mirrorless user
The size is not the only difference between the A6000 and D5500, the fast drive is one of the biggest advantages.
“Like what?”
Like a flip-up mirror and OVF.
“Why would you buy an A6000 instead of Nikon D5500 if you’re going to make it bigger with a grep and as you said yourself, you’re welcoming a bigger body?”
Why not? Mirrorless does not have to mean small. It should mean flexibility.
“asnallgr”
I have no idea what that is meant to say.
For me, you can put the kit 16-50 on it and have your small general use camera or you can put a big fe such as the 70-200 on it and have a great more specialized set up. You can’t go smaller with a dslr.
The size of the body makes no difference to the focal length argument. Yes a tele FE lens on apsc may be desirable because it will be longer but wide angle FE lenses on apsc are too long therefore they make no sense.
What do you think Sony misses in the consumer-oriented APS-C E-mount line? Price for 24/1.8 and 16-70/4 are out of whack, and 30mm macro is too short and FE 90mm is too big and expensive (as almost all FE lenses), so maybe these. But 35 and 50mm are usually reasonably priced (with discounts) and have OSS as all zooms (even 10-18), so IBIS is not really necessary (although would help).
If they were serious about the line, orienting it towards enthusiasts etc, they would have f/2.8 zooms and weather-sealed bodies and lenses, but their solution is go FF and f/4 zooms instead, and in fact it works better than f/2.8 on APS-C. Besides, they still have A77II with 16-50/2.8 at very reasonable price for those who don’t mind bigger and more expensive APS-C.
Their strategy with a6000 is working very well, it is the best selling mirrorless for 2 years now. Not exactly genius, just give people good value without egregious overpricing and they will buy. And A7 too. Just like Canon was winning with Rebels for years. Overpriced NEX-7 2 years earlier was not working, so there. Another NEX-7 will fail just as well.
I wish Olympus, Panasonic, Fuji would understand that simple fact – value matters.
I hear you, but I feel like the current lens situation is (barely) adequate, and there are some significant improvements I’d like to see in a camera.
specs? lol it only says fps 14,5, sensor aps-c 28 mp, hd video
Also it says 14.5 fps and 5-axis ibis
28Mp crop sensor bodies. 48Mp FF bodies. FFS…
Samsung NX1 already has 28MP in a crop body
Samsung seem to have discontinued their NX line
NX1 and NX500 are still for sale in the US, they even want foll price for some reason.
I am more interested in rumors about the new FE which are supposed to come soon. Any news here?
By the way, with the recent steep drop in Russian ruble, many shops there have not adjusted the prices yet, and there are some amazing deals to be had if you happen to travel to Russia very soon.
Not as good as Nikon craze over a year ago, when, for a brief period, everything was half the price when translated to EUR/USD, but still decent.
APS-C native resolution 28MP with Q67, output resolution 14MP
What is Q67?
Google suggests that it’s intels processor.
http://image-sensors-world.blogspot.de/2010/12/sony-cinealta-moves-beyond-bayer.html
it’s russian style – fakes publishing)
I hope that the A7000 will be made travel photographers in mind who shoot almost everything from landscapes to wild life. That in my mind means specs that are something like this.
– IBIS to make it easier to shoot even if you have just climbed up some where and your hands are shakier than usual.
– Weather sealed and shock resistant body. So that you can keep shooting no matter what when you are in a place where you are going to visit only once in your life.
– Speedy everything around 10 fps for 4 seconds, super fast start up time, AF, fully customisible quick menu (aka fast operation overall), USB3 and support for the fastest memory cards.
– Good low light performance. If this means cutting down the pixel count some where around 18 Mp thats fine with me.
– Control wheels for aperture, shutter speed, ISO and shooting mode and one of them on the grip like it is on SLT cameras.
As a bonus it would be nice to get weather sealed lenses to go with the body.
I think this would also make sense from the business point of view because is think that travel photographers are second biggest group of photographer after those who shoot their kids and dogs. I’m not talking about pros of course.
Not even the $3200 flagship A7R II is weather sealed, or shock resistant. I wouldn’t expect to see it in a lower end APS-C body?
I’m not expecting it either but there should not be a problem to make cheap(ish) weather sealed body. A77ii has a decent sealing and some point and shoots and phones can even go under water. So the sealing it self should not be expensive to make but it could represent some problems with heat in the camera if they would make high bitrate video available on the same camera. It would also probably make the body a little bit bigger (than nex7) but not too much I think. IBIS might ad much more to the size… Probably.
I hope they do start taking weather sealing more seriously, that’s my major complaint about the A7 series, and almost at one time pushed me to Fuji.
“Not even the $3200 flagship A7R II is weather sealed”
At least they claim it is (which is of course not true, I agree with you).
Sony will not produce real weather-sealed lenses for E-mount, want premium, go to FE (which are not really weather-sealed either so far in most cases except 35/1.4, but at least claim so).
You are saying that like it’s a fact. Do you have some inside info you would like to share with us about Sonys future E-mount lenses? Or are you just betting on the horse that is most likely to win?
Sony made at least one weather sealed crop sensor lens for A-mount (16-50 f2.8) so I don’t think it is impossible to see one or two for E-mount.
Also FE-lenses work perfectly on any E-mount camera if you didn’t know that by now.
No, I am telling my opinion about how Sony decided to structure the market (which is not the same BTW how I would do it). And I am not denying the existence of high-end weather-sealed A-mount lenses or bodies. But I very much doubt they will waste money releasing weather-sealed APS-C E-mount lenses. But there is always a chance.
Add a higher resolution EVF, and you have the whole list. Not sure many users would accept lower resolution in exchange for lower noise, but it’s a valid concept. There is BIG demand for a higher level APS-C camera and Sony should respond. Size and weight are BIG factors for cameras that are actually out there being used in the field, not just snapping the 100000th picture of kids in the back yard, or working at weddings.
I complitely aggree. Carying A77ii and 4 lenses around Bolivia (altitude constantly 3000-4000 m) taught me that every gram and every cubic centimeter counts.
The A77ii and all my lenses also got stolen because it was too impractical to take my camera bag with me when I went to toilet. I left it 2 m away from where my friend was sitting. Someone came and offered my friend a hotel room while I was gone and within those 2 seconds my friend looked away from the bags it got stolen. He didn’t notice it at all and when I came back it was way too late to do anything about it. My iPad was also in that bag and the funny thing is that someone from Bolivia actually contacted me via facebook and wanted me to unlock the iPad for him because it had my iCloud account in it and there was no way for him to use his own 😀
“I hope that the A7000 will be made travel photographers in mind who shoot almost everything from landscapes to wild life.”
Travel
photogs have plenty of products at their disposal. Sony E and FE
systems lack viable offers for sports (including mass market children
sports, I am not talking about specialized D4s market). A7rII is not
going to be mass market due to its price, and lack of fast tele zoom
makes it even less useful.
Maybe it is less of a market in the
dying off Japan and Western Europe. But in the US with our still decent
birth rates and almost universal sport participation rate among kids, it
is the primary cause to have an advanced camera, less advanced one or
even a smartphone are good enough for everything else.
Again,
only combination of low light and fast movement in the scene make an
advanced camera a necessity instead of a luxury today. It is not 2007.
“Travel photogs have plenty of products at their disposal.”
Interesting. Can you give me some example of what do you consider a good camera/camera system for travel photogs?
Don’t worry. We still have plenty of kids doing sports and other stuff here in Europe 🙂 Wouldn’t it be good to have the camera that I described for shooting kids? I don’t have any kids but what I have heard is that they tend to break things and pour drinks and food on everything (rugged camera body and lens). Good low light performance would be great like you said and of course fast AF. If the price is right, I don’t see why it wouldn’t sell well (I’m thinking around $1000-1200 at launch and $800 after 6 months for a kit). If Sony would make a camera like that, the only thing missing would be a decent telephoto lens for sports (if the 50-210 does not count).
“less advanced one or even a smartphone are good enough for everything else.”
That is very subjektive. There are not many point and shoot cameras that can zoom far away and phones don’t do so well in low light even if the subject does not move. Also I’m confident that most people still think that camera makes the picture instead of photographer. That means that if someone is not getting good enough pictures out of their phone or point and shoot, they are going to look for more advanced cameras. And when that happens, ruggedness and option to choose different lenses are good selling points… At least in my mind.
“Interesting. Can you give me some example of what do you consider a good camera/camera system for travel photogs?”
Superlight, single camera kit – for example, Canon G7x. Or Sony RX100mk4 or Canon G5x for those insisting on EVF.
Light ILC set – Pana GX8 or Oly E-M5 II with Oly 7-14 and 12-40 PRO lenses, and maybe even the light and cheap 40-150/4-5.6 just in case. Or even 7-14 PRO and Oly 14-150 II (the latter is weather-sealed too) for even lighter kit and fewer lens changes. 8/1.8 PRO for those who love fisheye.
Great, light for travel. But neither E-M5 II nor GX8 can do sports comfortably.
Wow. So in Japan and Europe we don’t have children or do sports?
I think you should probably take your camera on some travels and learn more about the world.
A lot of people use mirrorless Sonys for travel cameras. The problem is that most of them are a bit too slow to photograph very active children. So I get asked a lot by parents which camera is fast enough. Today that often means a mid-range Nikon.
Would be nice to make it a Sony.
Statistically, much fewer per family. Japan is older too.
Eh, Birtrate for US is 1.9. For UK it is also 1.9 and for France it is 2.0.
That means the French have 5% more children than the Americans.
Where do you get everything from?
Last time I checked IS had 2.1, I guess something changed since then. But for Japan it is 1.4, for European Union as a whole it is 1.6, so US is still ahead, despite Muslims apparently helping France with their birthrate.
A7000 with 14.5 fps, 5-axis ibis similar to
A7II, W-Fi, AVC/H.264, MPEG4 video for $800 looks 90% reasonable.