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Sony CES page and livestreaming. What do you hope to get: A99II, A6xxx or FE lenses?

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An anonymous source sent me the link to that special Sony CES page: https://blog.sony.com/CES/. Sony will announce new products on January 5. And you can watch the announcement live via UStream here on SonyAlphaRumors.

He also added: “Sony will announce a new APS Camera at the CES next year according to their blog at“. But I have not found such a statement on any Sony site or social network. I may ask the source to send me the link to it?

Keep in mind the CP+ photography show will take place in February. So we don’t know yet what of the rumored new FE lenses, A6xxx and maybe new A-mount stuff will be announced at CES or at CP+.

Just curious:

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        1. it would be horrible if a possible A99ii has 12 mp and there is no sibling with a higher res sensor.
          Actually it is a good idea from Sony to have one camera with different resolution sensors. But the high-ISO one should have an insane frame-rate, too.

      1. I used to think that was a crazy idea, too, but I’ve been shooting with the A7S recently, and I’m loving the sensor on that thing. An A99 with that sensor would be the perfect wedding cam, IMO. That said, I can’t really see it happening.

        1. For that to happen (A99II with A7sII sensor that is), there would also have to be another A-mount camera with higher resolution to please larger crowd. Chance of one happening is slim, but two?

          1. That’s the problem – there are not enough customers for potential A-mount “ultimate reportage camera” to make it financially viable. Right now it’s not even clear if there’s enough for universal do-it-all tool.
            Anyway, I am not writing A-mount completely off. I actually borrowed 70400G2 from Sony today, to try it out during my upcoming trip, primarily to see if G2 is viable on A7rII until there are native options or new A-mount cameras 😉

          2. Well, the only reportage camera with EVF is currently the A77II, so I’d say there’s definitely a market for that kind of body. It can be either A-Mount or FE, doesn’t really matter at this point, although FE will also require proper lenses to go with it.

        1. My hope is to have high-res AND speed. After all, it will most likely be more than a year after A7Rii was released before we get our hands on an A99ii. I also want the ability to have decent size crop images. Currently, the A7Rii will produce 18-19Mp crops. A7Sii only produces 5.33Mp crops.
          I could get by with an A7Rii if Sony released an LA-EA5, but until then, I’m hoping my Minolta lenses have a future on an A99ii.

    1. Since there will probably only be a single a99-2 model (if at all), a model with a new 24mp BSI sensor for fast readout, high sensitivity and high FPS would be the best compromise – enough resolution but should be very speedy.

    1. Don’t get your hopes up too high. Chance of A9 happening is much higher than A99II. Anyway, it is not likely for any of high end cameras to happen at CES.

      1. A9 could be good too, it if resulted in a highly optimized mirrorless body I suppose.
        As for CES announcements, what about announcements?

        1. It’s a consumer electronics show, not an imaging of photography show. There have been high-end imaging products announced there before, but it is more of an exception than a rule.

      2. Why is the chance of an A9 more likely? So far A9 is has only had some vague rumours that they’re even working on it. Sony has reconfirmed their commitment to A-mount and A99II is due some time in 2016 (although probably in the fall).

        I don’t see A9 as more likely. Perhaps just as likely.

        1. I’m not saying whether an A9 is likely or not, but I think it’s definitely more likely than an A99II simply because an E-mount camera is more likely than A-mount camera.

  1. E mount in the lead. That’s interesting. Even sar-readers are switching. Or maybe all the new readers are e-mounters and original readers are not switching at all?

  2. The a6000 replacement/update is somewhat overdue, I realize, but when I look at the specs, and at the DxO ratings, I see that the current model is still kicking the **** of the relatively new 7dMkII, and wonder “what’s the hurry – Canon isn’t even in the game”. However, Nikon is definitely closer, so maybe it’s time to pull away?

    If the a6000 is upgraded, then it may be natural to also upgrade the a77ii?

    An F2.8 e mount might be in the cards too.

    1. The thing is, it’s not even “overdue”. People seem to think that, because of the dizzying pace of the A7 release cycle these past two years, camera models are supposed to be replaced ever year. When, before the A7 series, have camera makers ever done that?

      1. Yes, I agree. The a6000 was so far ahead when it came out, that it still is at the top of the heap, nearly two years later. There’s certainly no hurry on that account, but it seems like Sony is pushing hard for dominance, and so we’ll see if that pattern continues.
        An a9 or a99ii would certainly be welcome. I looked at the a99 on DxO recently, and it’s sensor is still rating very well – and the rest of the camera is quite good too. However, I think Sony has a trick up their sleeve, and can produce a camera or two that will end up top of the heap.

        1. I still shoot with my A99 and still love it (aside from the AF points all being jammed in the middle). I’m pretty sure it’s successor, though, is more likely to be an A9 than an A99II. The advancements they made with OSPDAF via the LAEA3 with the latest A7 series cams suggests to me that the future of A-mount is definitely simply adapted to E-mount.

        2. No – it is really time for the A6000 replacement. When it came out, it was outstanding, now it is “mediocre” at its best. There are so many features missing that you can get in m43-world:
          – 4K
          – touchscreen
          – IBIS
          – Full-articulating-screen
          – USB-3
          – audio-jack
          – faster & higher-res EVF
          Even the 43-sensors have almost closed the gap in terms of IQ.

          And inherit from A7Rii:
          -Charging via USB while in use (or use powerbank as battery+++)
          -OSPDAF with adapted lenses

          1. USB Type-C 3.0 won’t happen yet because not even smartphones got it, and micro-USB 3.0 is already dead to be used.

          2. Eh, none of those will actually improve your images, unless you’re shooting wide to normal unstabilized lenses. A6000 IQ is still much better than m4/3 (which is approached by Sony 1″ sensors). For video, m4/3 has always been on top on the low end of things. Drop some cash, and the A7_ II series rises to the top.

          3. I shot a lot in low light: dancing people, hand held.
            Fast AF is very important. But a touchscreen helps for quick focus select. I often recompose. And a faster EVF could have saved me hitting the wrong moment sometimes – I think.
            And 5-10% of the time I make videos instead of stills: mic-jack!! (Currently my sound is beyond disgusting – that’s why there is so little videos) And 4K gives some reserve for cropping and de-shaking in post.
            IBIS and OSPDAF is just for adapted lenses. Otherwise it doesn’t make sense to buy some cheap&good Canon glass. And with FF lenses, I can double the lens speed with a speedbooster adapter. Remember: I shot low light 🙂

            Really interesting how you dare to judge if this can improve my images or not.

            BTW:
            A7 mk2 series is tempting, but 5 fps is not enough to take a series of spinning dancers. A6000 with its 11fps has a two times better chance to capture the perfect moment!

    1. To be honest, the fact that the A99II is within 13% of new FE lenses says there’s a lot of demand for that camera given how small the FE lens selection is.

  3. Some nice cheap primes like the other brands have like the 1.8’s 35, 50, 85
    A new Flash that doesn’t melt the moment you use it 2 times in the same hour
    Something that does AF assist like the lazers on a phone or the grid SLRs get to use

  4. Why there is no new E lenses for crop option? Because crop is dead? So if crop is dead why do we need to wait A6000-A5000 replacement? And what this replacement for if sony fucked up us with no new and fast lenses for this system?

  5. Considering the available lenses (including 3rd party) I am only waiting for one lenses – the 2470/2.8. Maybe at a later stage a 70200/2.8, but that’s it for the time being.

    1. I have both A-mount F2.8 first generation zooms, and if I had to choose which to upgrade to native and which to continue using via adapter on A7rII, I would choose a native 70-200/2.8. Adapted 24-70/2.8 works surprisingly well and only thing I am missing with it is tracking AF modes (including EyeAF). 70-200/2.8 works relatively well too, but the AF does struggle a bit at the long end with low contrast or low light subjects.

      1. The Mark I of the 2470ZA was my favorite on my former A99. And I used it for a short while on my former A7R via LA4 adapter. I needed the 4, because I was also using the 85ZA. I know that it was mostly due to the quite slow AF of the A7R, but it made me consider to go for native mount only.
        AF and its 980g plus 120g adapter were reason to sell it at that time.
        Unfortunately the FE2470/4 is no real replacement for it – not because of the 1 stop disadvantage, more because colors and contrast.
        Luckily the Batis is a worthy replacement of the Planar – although 2/3 stop disadvantage.

  6. Why there is no new E lenses for crop option? Because crop is dead? So if crop is dead why do we need to wait A6000-A5000 replacement? And what this replacement for if sony tries to full us with no new and fast lenses for this system?

      1. They’re trying. With no success, because there is no such lenses to fullfill this area – cheap and good SEL, not just a little better and much expensive G or zeiss with a lot of problems like pillow on 18-105G and bad quality on 16-70 Zeiss… And it’s damn slow, F4 for crop is too slow! I got 10-18 and F4 is not enough in menu situations…

        1. Best example is FE55 vs SEL50. Same aperture – factor 3-4 in price – and the cheaper one has OSS that is more useful than the better IQ. And 80g less and 9mm shorter…

          1. That’s exactly I’m talking about!

            Much better example is SEL35 vs Zeiss E 35/2.8, 3-4 times more in price, 1 1/3 stop slower, no OSS…

          2. I know exactly what you mean!
            Currently I don’t know if I want to step up to FF. I need a compact system, I need good lowlight quality. And I want fast AF and fast fps. And currently neither FF nor APS-C can fulfil my demands completely…
            A7000 – where are you???

      1. Not many actually. With AF only Tamron-Sony 18-200, and zeiss touitte 12, 32, 50 macro… It’s too much… sarcasm…

        1. Touit is the series name.

          And Sony 1018, and Sony 35/1.8, and Sony 50/1.8, and Sony 1650, and Sony 18105, and Sony 55210, and Sony-Zeiss 1670, and Sigma 19/2.8, and Sigma 30/2.8, and Sigma 60/2.8.
          Just to mention some others…

          1. Together with old Kits SEL1855, SEL16 + SEL20f28, SEL30M35 SEL24f28Z the list is complete…

            less than 20 APS-C AF lenses!

          2. to be honest – a big part of the FE lineup is crap, too – if the price tag is considered and Canon or Sigma-Art is taken as benchmark 🙂

          3. A big part!? Andrey says 2/3 of the APS-C.
            Guys, with all that review reading you shpuld not forget to go out photographing…

            Honestly.
            As for the FE line up, there is no crap. There are from technical pov only two light-weak ones; the 2470Z and the 2870.
            The APS-C line up has some poor IQ lenses, but not 2/3 of all.
            On the other side there are on all four lens lineups of Sony some superb lenses.

            The unspecified Canon or Sigma-Art benchmark is no real comparison.
            Yes, the Sigma Art 1835/1.8 and the 50/1.4 are superb ones, but the 24105 and the 24/1.4 are “just” average. The Canon 35/2, 135/2 or the 70200/2.8 are excellent lenses, but 2470/2.8II and even the 50/1.2 or the 85/1.2 are technically “just” slighlty above average.

            There are many different fields of photography, and also many brands with many lenses – good ones as well as less good ones.
            The question is what the photographer needs to best serve his style.
            And – thats an important fact – skill enables photographers to circle around technical weaknesses of the gear.

          4. Unfortunately, I tend to use zooms, and the 28-70 range is the most important one – for me. Want to see alternatives here – does not matter which brand.

    1. Why do people refer to APS-C as ‘crop’ and how did that get started? I think it’s just FF marketing fog. Nothing is being ‘cropped’ in APS-C unless you use a lens that isn’t APS-C.

      1. You’re right in the sense that the angle of view will be the same if using an equivalent focal length on APS-C, but it’s not as if the crop has no impact on the image quality.

        It does have an impact if DOF (or lack of it) and high ISO performance is important.

        No such thing as a free lunch.

      2. I like small lenses, look at fuji. And I don’t want to pay not reasonable price for it. I like sony NEX 5 series bodies, they are damn small coma red to competitors and even to 6-7-A6000… the only lack of lenses I feel.

        Ands APSC is crop because its smaller and cropped from full frame sensor size…
        Don’t want to carry a lens with a weight of all my two NEX 5N-T bodies and three lenses 10-18, 35, 50… Only is 50 is good enought. 10-18 and 35mm should be redesigned for better geometry-distortions and better sharpness… rest of sony lenses for crop is real crap that doesn’t resolve sensor resolution… even old 16mpix

        1. “Ands APSC is crop because its smaller and cropped from full frame sensor size…”

          Aha. Sony makes FF sensors, then cuts out (crops) vthe APS-C size, and sells it for less money?

          🙂

          1. Yes – if Sony detects pixel failures in the outer section, they cut the sensor smaller. And because it is cheaper than procuding a small sensor they can sell it for less money.

            😀

          2. Oops…
            I said the same thing you already said because I did not read your comment before I said it.

        2. “Smaller” doesn’t mean that anything is being “cropped”. Or do shooters of medium-format film refer to 35mm film as “crop format”?

      3. It has become a habit, first there were mainly crop DSLRs with older FF lenses. FF is just as arbitrary, compared to 6×7, it is not very “full”, but as long as everybody knows what those terms mean, it is ok, no? “I prefer FF over crop.” – “oh, me too…”

        1. It’s just that every time we mis- use the term “crop” to refer to APS-C, we’re playing into the FF marketing game and reducing the chances for new APS-C products. FF is marketing genius, hard to overcome.

      4. Before everything went digital the most popular interchangeable lens cameras all used what we call full frame lenses, so if digital is based off of that camera then the crop factor is correct since you only get full use of a legacy lens on ff not aps.

    2. It’s been rumored for a while that a replacement for the A6000 is coming. And people from Sony already said that they plan on continuing to work on their APS-C line.

    1. or just without video for photographers only… plus with fully articulated screen (touch ok as well) plus shorter flash sync via electronic shutter plus “live-bulb” funktion plus charging and working simultaneously like a7rii. And it would be nice to have just a little tiny bit bigger body for bigger new gen batteries. And better sealing please for serious gimmick-less working! THAT will make me heavenly happy!

  7. There’s only a few lenses I want in FE mount.

    The crazy wide 10mm Voigtlander
    A 135 1.8 Batis
    Sony/Zeiss 24-120 f4

  8. I don’t care too much as most of my needs are reasonably well catered for at the moment, although I would like something longer (perhaps similar to the 70-400).

    However, I am curious as to how Sony will proceed.

    The more I look at it, the more I think theirs (and other camera manufacturers) is a veritable tightrope to walk as to product placement and development.

    If Sony come out with anything that is even a touch too expensive, relative to performance, it will likely bomb. If they produce something that performs superbly and don’t price it right, it could kill off the A7Rii stone dead. Even if they release something like an improved A6000 that exceeds the A7 series in many areas, if not completely, then many will go for it rather than the more expensive cameras.

    If I worked in Sony product development or marketing departments I think I would have serious gastric ulcers by now!

    Still, it’s fun for the observers amongst us!

    1. What about if Sony was slightly slowing down on new bodies commercial releases cycles whist keeping development going and churning out more lenses and accessories ? They would release new bodies only as and when deemed necessary. I think that could help.

  9. I clicked A99II but I’m not so sure anymore. I don’t think there is a market for it and if it is released- will mirror the A77II: Evolution not a revolution. In the case of the A77II that’s completely fine. To much FF competition to charge a premium if it doesn’t “wow.” I bet most people saying they’ll buy it- be honest here- would end up buying a discounted A99 if they don’t already have it or A7RII if they’ve got the cash.

    1. If they release an A99 successor that actually matches or betters performance of their current E-mount models, I might stick it out with A-mount a bit longer. MIGHT. Otherwise, I’m debating this next year whether I dive in completely to mirrorless for my professional kit, or else maybe buy into Canikon for professional work and just keep E-mount for personal work.

      1. Same here. I might do Nikon though for my wedding work but that puts me at odds with Sony all together. For personal work I don’t need FF and for APSC or smaller there are just better options than Sony. I already have some Canon gear.

        If I did pick up an FE body I’d probably just grab a 35mm F2 loxia and the 16-35mm for personal stuff. For native lenses, those are the only ones grabbing my attention. Funny thing, it’s the “personal” stuff I end up spending more money on.

        1. I’m totally on the fence too. Though I also clicked a99II. I’ve been hmm’ing and haw’ing back and forth between replacing my recently failed a900 (201,000 shutter actuations) with another a900 or with a Nikon D810 or with a SONY a7rII or A7II. As luck would have it my a900 body died after the last wedding of my wedding season, at a maternity shoot. But I expect bodies to eventually die. Problem is, my 50mm F1.4 ZA Planar SSM stopped communicating with my a900 (and a850 backup body) about a month earlier. And I dropped my 85mm F1.4 ZA Planar and scratched the rear element pretty badly about 2 months before that. Either way, I’m looking at either some repairs, or some replacement of some of my kit. A Nikon D810 with the Sigma 35mm, 50mm, and (hopefully 85mm) ART series lenses might be my next move while I figure out whether to repair my SONY kit or sell it all. That decision of course will be based on whether they announce a SONY A-Mount camera that I want to shoot with. I’ve shot with the a99 and hated it. And I’ve shot a little bit with the A7rII in camera shops and liked it somewhat more than the a99, but for me it’s still just not “there” yet.

          1. Interesting- do you use straps? Haha- I don’t actually. I dropped the A900 in a snow bank once but other than that I’ve had no accidents. Well, outside of bodies. Dropped the 16-50mm 2.8 twirling it around on my wood floor a few weeks ago but that was an idiot move:)

            You mentioned the Sigma’s and that’s kind of my jive right now. I can’t remember the guy on here- but he showed a picture of all of his Zeiss A mount glass with a sigma 35mm in the mix. Said the 35mm was his favorite most used lens. I’ve been wanting REALLY bad the Tamron 15-30mm 2.8 and 35mm 1.8. I’d even pick up their 24-70 on a FF. The only reason I don’t own them is because I’ve sold off most of my A mount glass this year and haven’t replaced it yet. The D810 checks off all the boxes for me except for the size for both paid and personal work. Since I already have a M43 and it’s cheap it keeps calling my name. There are some legacy lenses in Nikon mount I’ve always wanted as well such as the 105mm 1.8. Plus, I can always pick up an A7 body if I need a quick Sony fix.

            To many damn options but yeah- big change coming from me early next year. I just don’t think it’s the time to post my stuff on ebay right now. Of course, some A mount commitment could change things but you know…how that goes….

          2. That D810 with those lenses would be a killer combo. Sigma is killing it with their lenses lately.

            If you do decide to stay Sony and need an a900 replacement, let me know, as I think I’m about to sell mine (with battery grip). Shutter count on it is actually pretty low yet (I’d have to online and figure out exact count, but probably under 25k), as it only had about 11k on it when I bought it, and it got relegated to second camera just months later, when I updated to A99 because of a killer deal. It basically only comes out when I need a second cam at a wedding now.

          3. Thanks but I ended up buying an a900 with less than 1000 shutter activations that was recently refurbished by SONY and comes with a 1 year warranty with SONY!!! Kind of a one last dance / dream camera for this EVF holdout / A-Mount aficionado 🙂

        2. I’m really on the fence about whether I’d go Nikon or Canon. I really like the looks of that D750; seems like it was almost tailor-made for weddings/events, and it has that nice Sony sensor. However, with Canon I like how adaptable their lenses (with decent-ish AF) are to the Sony mirrorless bodies, so if the Sony bodies catch up down the road, I could easily just port those lenses over.

      1. From that perspective – agree.

        However, I don’t think there will be an A99II anyway.
        An A99II implies it becoming an upgraded A99. For that the existing customer base is not big enough, and it would not convince enough brand changers or FF entrees. And just the size advantage over the A7RII (providing bigger battery, dual slot, etc) will not help either, as FE users are waiting for a mor pro featured FE A9.
        Sony renewed almost the whole A mount G and ZA lens line up. Considering the retail prices of those lenses (much above FE lens prices) they are targeting others than the advanced amateurs or semi-pro photographers – commercial pros.
        And for those they need to come up with something different than an upgraded A99.
        Don’t get me wrong – the A99 for me still is one of the best DSLR/T cameras ever made, but I am no commercial professional requiring more.

      1. Why OSS if we have IBIS ? I have the 35mm 1.8 OSS for my NEX-6 and it is a great lense and it is reasonably compact too !

  10. I would say it’s their last year to do thing right, because Canikon are working hard to get close.

    And even if it doesn’t perform like the Sony’s it will be harder to make people switch systems.

    1. Sony desperately needs to make a pro level mirrorless body…because you can be absolutely shure Canon and Nikon will enter the market with one.

      1. The A99II will keep the A mount users happy but I for one want a high res pro mirrorless body and this should be Sony’s number one priority with C & N users being able to using their existing lenses with an FE mount camera, they can’t do that with an A mount body. Sony would sell many more A9’s than A99II’s
        I expect the FE mount A9 with a sensor in the range of 56MP to 72MP sensor to arrive by the Spring of 2016. Yes wishful thinking but Sony have been bullish and they are not stupid and they know the A7 series is winning fans and giving them a good return. The A9 should take them to the next level.

  11. I checked A99II, but it spurs a question: is it possible for a SLT camera to have an electronic/silent shutter?

    1. The a99 already has electronic first curtain. Silent shutter mode should happen with a faster readout sensor.

      1. The new lens is half an f stop faster than f 6.3 therefor will be of higher quality and better support teleconverters.

        Plus Canon just patented it.

        1. That’s awesome! I hope it will be as good as the 100-400 and remain in the $2k price range. Canon is trying to catch up with Sigma/Tamron on the budget long telephoto offer.

          1. I believe it will be excellent…it has some very exciting tech
            Dual front element
            What appear to be Blue Spectrum Refractive optics
            Internal focus and zoom so both front and rear elements are stationary, and whether sealing can be better.
            And lots of space in the rear to drop in things or add barrel extender….?????

          2. Why are not all optics using blue spectrum refractive optics ? Is this only valid for high focal zooms or teleconverters ?

      1. My original ..and often repeated..request was for 300-600 f4.8, 5, or 5.6
        Withi dedicated drop in 1.8x tc, and .75x focus extender, and 150mm barrel extender for close upmacro.
        This lens will have internal zoom/focus and lots of room it they choose to put in any of those features.
        This lens ….if they build it will be rmarkably close to what I have been asking for!!!!

  12. A7 III, don’t have lenses that really need 42mp. I don’t want to see deficiencies of my lenses. Don’t need huge files. I would like a faster FPS, 4k in super 35 mode without overheating.
    Would like a more durable finish on the camera that costs this much. It would be nice if it had a thinner sensor stack for use with legacy RF lenses, and BSI for better low light low noise abilities.
    Also, more condensed menues, a touch screen for menu navigation and touch focus point and shutter release. Sony has partnership with Olympus, they have some of the tech Sony needs.
    For me 25mp with PDAF faster AF with Metabones EF lens adapters.

    1. If 12 mp are good for 4K in crop-mode, the sensor might have 28 mp in FF.
      But I agree to your wishlist: especially higher fps and touchscreen! And less resolution causes less rolling shutter in 4K.

      1. Nikon D4 has only 16mp has high FPS and fast focus, Its enough pixels for many if not most pics. OK say you want more pixels, then try to get the fewest amount more.

        I saw a chart of cameras with the least to the most shutter rolling and it did seem that lower pixels and lower shutter roll correlate together.

        I want to pay for what I need not for excessive megapixels, how many people print that large at 300dpi to need all those pixels, or need to down sample to ease noise? I don’t need a $3200 camera body with high pixels, overheating, rolling shutter, not so durable finish that rubs off easily. I have several NEX cameras hope Sony improves its mid level cameras so I can afford them.

    2. I agree with the more durable finish… The back paint is wearing off fairly fast on the sides near the shoulder strap and along the angles…

  13. I’ve basically written off Sony APS-C and am now hoping NIkon will get the message on mirrorless. A Sony APS-C announcement in January would be a very nice surprise, but I don’t think it will happen.

    1. Nikon bought Samsung’s NX line so they should be coming out with some cool mirrorless aps-c stuff. probably in a year or two though

      1. Confused on this. As far as I can see, this purchase hasn’t happened. I find sources saying it will, others saying it won’t, and Samsung denying the rumors. So which is it?

  14. the question about a6xxx is if it’s going to be on an old outdated sensor’s tech (as it was planned to come out almost a year ago) or if they actually have designed a new generation bsi sensor for it.

  15. If Sony doesn’t expand on their APS-C lineup/lenses, I’m thinking of switching over to the Fuji system. The lens lineup for APS-C is infinitely better than Sony’s.

    1. I don’t know if I’d say their sensor is better, but they definitely have the better lens line-up. Of course, with APS-C being their only and top-of-the-line line-up, they’d better.

      1. Considering every single X mount lens they’ve released is an APS-C designed lens, if they went full frame they would have to start from scratch. It would be cool though.

        1. Fuji have what appears like a very decent APS-C line-up, so they can start with FF…
          Unlike Sony, who are juggling 4 lens lines with 2 mounts and 2 sensor sizes.
          They could also probably do a better job, since they already released the f/2.8 zooms for their system, not bothering with the bogus “compactness”.

      2. The primes are fast and compact though, which makes up for the smaller sensor somewhat. The 23 mm f1.4 actually provides more light for the aps-c sensor than what the 35mm 2.8 Sony can achieve with a full frame sensor.

  16. Too late for me. Sony took too much time to launch the A6xxx. I moved forward to Nikon D750. Maybe this is may last post on SAR. Bye.

    1. Not to nitpick, but HOW are A6xxx remotely comparable to D750? They are completely different products aimed for different use…

      1. Fuji is another system, APS-C. I couldn’t keep my lenses, and I would spend almost the same than in Nikon system. No one have a Fuji in Brazil.

        I cant see how Fuji could be so better than Sony, like some guys told below. I compared a lot of files. They are similar. The Fuji lenses are expensive. The gear too. And despite some reviewers, I love the Nex 6 dials and customization. Fast to set. I’m thinking about mantain my Nex6, and don’t sell. At least for a period for adaptation with Nikon.

    2. So if I understand you correctly, you jumped from APSC mirror-less A6000 to a DSLR D750, and you are complaining from Sony ?!?

      I don’t think that even Nobel prize winners could predict that behaviour of yours 🙂

    3. I can understand the dude. Some time ago i found myself needing to buy a second “cheap” body(+kit lens) for some upcoming portrait studio shooting, since my main camera was in reparation. Waiting and waiting for an A6000 replacement I decided to go instead for an D7200 for the job.
      Then I though, no man, you’ve been waiting for months for that replacement… at the end I borrowed a camera from a friend. I guess in some cases one might flip to one side or another if there is no other choice.

      1. What’s wrong with the a6000; why does it have to be its replacement? With the price it’s selling for right now, it might be the best camera deal ever.

        1. I own a Nex-6, 35mm f1.8 and a 18-200mm lenses. And A6000 didn’t give a big improvement. So I’ve been waitng since march, the first date do announcement of a new a6xxx or a7xxx, with better viewfinder than a6000, better iso performance, raw and DR. But she didn’t came. 🙁

          So I start to look at A7II, but the package and prices of D750 are better.

          1. Fair enough. Personally, I thought the a6000 was a huge improvement over the NEX-6; I consider the user interface and ergo much improved.

          2. In which terms was the A6000 a huge improvement on the NEX-6 ? I have kept my NEX-6 so I’d be happy to know.

          3. It’s just my opinion; if you disagree, that’s fine. For me, I hate the tiled menu system on the NEX6 – HATE it. I also like the grip a bit better on the 6000; was tweaked a bit, so it’s just a tad more robust. Also, for landscapes and such, I appreciate the greater resolution. The NEX-6 is a fine camera – I still have mine, too – but for me, I just like the a6000 a bit better.

    4. I picked up a D750, sold off most of my A-mount stuff, but kept the A6000 + E-mount lenses (even bought a couple more). Hard to part with the A6000 since it’s so easy to shoot and carry, and the video is way better. A full loadout of lenses with the A6000 will still weigh less than the D750 body! XD

      1. As a happy d750 owner for my most serious and pro work, I’ve strongly considered the a6000 for casual and backup… But waiting for a a6100/7000, perhaps with commlite compatibility to my Nikon glass.

  17. I´m a Nikon user, but see with enthusiasm the improvements of the new A7 generation… although here in Brazil Sony is a dead brand (Sony does not care about photography here, only CaNikon have enough structure), think that the system must grow in lenses and some flashes and dedicated accessories to make the system to be complete. It must be hard for A-mount users but if someday I leave Nikon, would be happy to find on the FE system a reliable alternative.

    1. “…think that the system must grow in lenses and some flashes and dedicated accessories to make the system to be complete.”

      This is their weakness even with A-mount. Sony loves to churn out bodies, a tight core of lenses, and screw everything else. This is where you can see that they really are an electronics company, not a photography company. They churn out some very nice cameras, but kinda forget about the ecosystem as a whole.

    2. Before you jump in with Sony, check the after sales service… There is not much of it thus far which is very surprising given the price of the A7 series cameras…

      Technically the A7r mk2 is a fantastic camera though. My best camera to date and by a wide margin !

    1. If you don’t mind manual focus ( and at ultra wides like this you don’t really need autofocus) the Samyang/rokinon 12mm f2.0 ncs is a really good performer and reasonably priced also.

  18. 1. Canon FF mirrorless with new 24-105/4 IS as kit + 50/2 macro + 100-300/4-5.6 IS
    2. Nikon FF mirrorless with new 24-105/4 VR as kit + 50/2 macro + 100-300/4-5.6 VR
    3. Stabilized AF zooms 15-30/4, 30-90/4, 90-180/4 from Sigma for all mirrorless 🙂

    1. I don’t understand this drive for mirrorless. Is mirrorless delivering any better image quality, autofocus and performances ? I very much doubt so.

      I believe mirrorless allows to make more compact full frame cameras less expensively but that’s it.

      So why is everybody and their dog beating the mirrorless chorus to no end ? At the same time some people are asking optical view finders and larger bodies…

      I don’t understand the logic of it all. Would you care to explain ?

      1. i can speak only for myself: FF mirrorless gives me less weight and small bags with DSLR quality and controls. that’s my only reasons to use it 🙂

        but i want new lenses, cuz i love to want 🙂 more.. more.. more 🙂

  19. New anything as long as it’s not another A7 body. Seems like a 4k A7mk3 will drop given Sony’s refresh rate.

  20. Just bought Nikon D750, nikkors 85/1.8G, 50/1.8G.
    2100 usd for the set
    Currently shoot with A5100 and was waiting for next sony Axxx with 4k. But it never came and most likely will not have the touch screen, thus can not replace the A5100. Which will also remain in use I believe.
    Was also considering sony FF. Body’s are quite OK, but the native 55/1.8 and 85mm /1.8 lenses set would be way too expensive, compare to the Nikon set.

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