Two days ago a trusted source said the European Sony Online stores would close at midnight. And indeed all stores have been removed! Just check Sony DE, UK, FR, IT, ES, NL, BE, CH, AT, SE, FI, NO, PT.
So now that the trusted source was completely right on that rumor I will also share what he wrote about the A6xxx back in late August:
There is still probably the NEX7 replacement to come in the next month although I heard it will be also the A6000 replacement.
and in a second mail he added:
As far as I know it is due to be announced in September but you know how things change around here!
So, this should hopefully be the right info and finally the real release. That A6xxx rumor hunted us all year! The camera was first due in April-May and that was even confimed by the official Sony leaked roadmap (Wikileaks scandal). It than got delayed because of sever overheating issues and after that managment has decided to focus on the A7rII and A7sII release first.
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Do you believe that the a6xxx (or a7000) ever will be launched at all? My faith is decreasing…
All I believe is that my very good sources are right and the camera is ready. But at the end it’s Sony Tokyo who decides when that cam will be released. And my guess is that Sony Tokyo wnated to push A7rII and A7sIi sales first because of the higher margins they earn on those. But that’s my guess only.
Yeah i think your right. For people interested in getting into 4k, but wanting to stay with Sony…. the only option right now is full frame.
This sounds like there will be an A6100 and an A7000. Can you confirm or deny this?
Does it? It sounds like one camera according to this rumour.
Well if it’s a direct replacement it probably won’t have all the rumored specs. So at least I’m hoping there will be a higher class A7000 to come.
Just curious if there’s been any more rumors about the A9 or such?
YES 😉 But that’s for a bit later. because that one I have to work on long time to get some real specs.
Nice 🙂 Keep up the great work!
What about A-mount?
I understand that they want to push people towards full frame, but i already have Nikon full frame and i’d like to have a well rounded lighter apsc system for travel, i Sony will mess this up with holding the apsc side rather as a beginner system i’ll have to switch to Fuji and i’ll advice everyone else to do so also
There is at least some third party support for APS-C (from Sigma) with three new lenses, no doubt helped because the same fundamental lens designs can be used on M43 with the possibility of other APS-C markets too.
Note the same as native support of course, but third party support is also important.
Why?
Did you ever take a look at the Fuji lens selection? If you do so you’ll see what i mean! 2.8 zooms, several 1.4 primes, even a 56 1.2. I know these are not cheap but they are great. What does sony have? 16-70/4 or 18-105/4 zooms and just a few primes
Hopefully the price range will be around the same as the A6000 when it’s first released, it would make no sense if the successor cost $500 bucks more!
It would if it’s anything in the line of what they’ve been doing with the RX100IV, RX10M2, A7RII & A7SII.
Imagine an A7RII but with an APS-C sensor, for like a third of the price.
Yep. BSI APSC sensor, 4k, no IBIS… Price starting around $999 to $1099 putting it in line to compete directly with the Nx1 which is the only other APSC 4k camera on the market. Everything else is m4/3.
Your picture says urnottheman.
Will the announcement be still in September or later at PhotoPlus?
Still love my NEX-7, but with a shutter count of over 150,000 I’m looking forward to seeing this replacement.
I’m in the same water. It would’ve been A7RII if it was not for the messed up 5x EVF magnification 🙁
Concern troll.
I’ve never even taken that many photos in my entire life. For crying out loud, how many cats do you have?
ha-ha! No cats, just three children; and they all play sports. All their friend like my photos so much that I’ve adapted them as well. At least on game/meet days.
Sony, give us a true NEX-7 sucessor! The quality of the NEX-7 body was so much nicer compared to the A6000. Today it should be possibe to make an even more weather sealed Magnesium NEX-7 like body in the shape of the a6000 for less than 1000$. Actually 1000 would be okay if the features are somewhere in the range of an A7rII, without the IBIS.
Sony doesn’t seems to announce new E-mount APSC lenses… Even if FE lenses works perfectly on APS-C E-bodies, bigger image circle means also bigger lenses. I’m not sure that I would trust Sony if I wanted to invest now in an APS-C mirrorless…
FE lenses work even better on the Sony APSC bodies than they do on their full frame counterparts. This is due to using more of the center of the lenses resulting in higher light transmittance and cleaner sharper images.
Ive personally tested this out with the Sony FE 28-70 on the A7ii and a6000.
Personally, I like the look of the image I get with my a6000 using a full frame lens. It may cost a little more, but I am planning on upgrading to full frame when the price is right.
Yep, I know that, you have the benefit of the “sweet spot” effect. However, given the fact that APS-C sensor are often denser in pixels regarding the surface, the FF lenses can also be slightly softer in the center… If the final plan is to upgrade to FF, it makes totally sense. But for APS-C shooters only, hmm I don’t know…
Agreed, When you buy a A6000, it is not because you do not want Full Frame. Most of the time you give priority to budget and “small size” but keeping high quality and complete features. It must be the same for the lenses : quality and good characteristic (OSS, Fast), but small and not as expensive than FF.
sry it’s a noob question, but if i use ff lenses on an aps-c body, do i still get the shallower depth of field that ff in itself is known for?
Nope. Since the image is cropped compared to FF, you’ll have to move further away from your subject in order to get the same framing as when using the lens on a FF camera, thereby losing your shallow DOF.
Yeah I’m going to challenge that. Yes and no. The change in affective focal lenght is less a factor as the change in DOF due to difference in aperature. F2 is now 2.8 in terms of DOF. Either way, the difference is very minor since the increase in effective focal length helps offset this.
The original poster stated “shallow depth of field of FF”….which is a bit vague.
50mm F2
5 feet
DOF total .35ft
75mm F2.8
7.5FT
.5 Ft
Just read this:
http://neilvn.com/tangents/full-frame-vs-crop-sensor-cameras-comparison-depth-of-field/
Bigger and more expensive. Some people don’t want to move to Full-Frame. I would like to see an 85mm 1.8 lens in APS-C.
Agreed, the other lower cost DT A-mount lenses have been replicated (30mm, 35mm, 50mm, 16-70) but the 85mm is missing.
Not always, the FE 55 is better but smaller than the fuji 56, and the 90mm from sony is just a bit bigger but with OSS, so it’s not always the case.
So the 6xxx will be the new “high end” APS-C DLSM.
don’t know if i’m happy with this. Because i’m still in hope for a Sony Alpha “a5” DSLM.
“Pro” Body from A7Rm2 Series, with the latest APS-C BSI 24-32mp Sensor, IBIS, On Sensor PDAF… i would pay 1500 bucks!
but first, let us see what SONY Engineers have developed for us 🙂
Any rumors/news about a Nex7/A6000 styled FF-Cam? I belive once there were some “A5”-rumors!?
Any idea about the price and the specs?
As long it has IBIS, everything will be okay
+ TriNavi
+ Metal body
…
+ Touchscreen 😉
+1
edit: + level gauge
Agree with every with else. Most important is IBIS, because this has influence about the lenses I will buy.
IBIS and the A7RII’s AF improvements with EA1/EA3 (and hence Canon) adapters.
These are the only two features that I REALLY want.
In my mind, a NEX-7 replacement should be just like the a7 II, but with an APS-C 28 Mpix BSI sensor. With the a7 II at $1700, they surely can sell this for $1200 (maybe $1300?).
In particular, if it’s selling for $1200-$1300, it should keep:
– a7 II series body
– IBIS
– internal 4K with no aliasing/moire
– slog2 (or maybe even slog3)
Put the evf on the side and it’s perfect.
Yes put it in the top right corner for us people that use their left eye to shoot with.
I have no problem using the a6000 left-eyed. In fact, I think it would be worse on the right.
Neither do I. Doesn’t matter if it’s on the left or in the middle, my nose still hits the screen. Can’t remember ever seeing a camera with the viewfinder on the right side, but I always wondered how it would feel not to hit my nose on the screen. I guess it would be difficult to hold correctly being right handed though.
Yeah, it would have to be pretty much different to any other camera out there. Controls, grip, shutter button, etc would really all have to be on the left.
After thinking about this some more… How about putting it on the side of the camera, or the top? If put on the top, straight down, you would be able to use it like old cameras. If put on the side (facing left from the lens) you could use it with both eyes.
Form factor should be similar to A6000. Maybe slightly deeper grip, little deeper to fit in the IBIS, but there’s nothing at all wrong with the “rangefinder” type body.
But it wouldn’t surprise me if they did that, given that they could use A7ii parts more cheaply.
Well a Top chopped A7 would be OK I guess, but hoping for a Tri-navi setup.
Waiting for 16/1.8 prime with New A7000
This new camera was earlier rumored (SR4?) to exceed A6000 and NEX-7, but to not replace A6000. If it is to also replace A6000, then that implies (to me) a lower price point and a more compromised camera.
One entry camera 5100 and one advanced camera 6100 make perfect sense to me.
a5200 with quality rx-like rgbw tilting capacitive touch screen, top dial+custom button ala nex5r/t, ael button, flash and hot shoe, plus the usual nex5/a5000 body would be nice, too bad they will rather continue the crippled a5000/5100 path
I think is obvious, there will not be any new improved APS-C camera a6100 (or a7000), and not any new APS-C lenses. At PhotoPlus Conference in October, Sony will release a7III that I think not only will replace a7II, but also a6000. It means that is has additional functionality and improved image quality regarding using APS-C lenses on an a7III (full format camera). In this way, I think Sony hopes that the “APS-C” customers will migrate to full format lenses. I am not convinced that this is the best strategy (regarding price and size), but I think this is what Sony will do.
If anything, FF users should migrate to APS-C. IQ is nearly indistinguishable, cost of sensor and lenses is lower, power consumption is lower, size is smaller…
High-res FF forced medium format into a niche market and eventually APS-C or another small format will do the same to FF.
Technology tends to move toward the more cost effective, efficient, and compact version.
That all makes perfect sense; so forget about it. :-). Sony might continue to make some APS-C cameras but they want to make sure users feel distinctly second rate so they’ll eventually ‘move up’ to big, bulky, expensive FF.
APS-C lenses on FF bodies might be a marketing bullet point but no one is going to find using only 2/3 of that expensive sensor to be very satisfying. It’s just another FF marketing strategy – get on board now, then start buying the big lenses later.
If they did that they would basically ruin all the people invested in APSC lenses. Which I doubt would happen, but I’ve seen worse things.
A7III?????????
I just can’t imagine it shows up this year.
I think is a good chance 🙂
a7I – announced in October 2013
a7II – announced in November 2014
a7III – ??? 2015
I think Sony simply avoids using word “lossy” and says “compressed” instead. Filesize of their new uncompressed raw should definitely be minimized.
Man, i think every goddamn combination of parts that make a camera has been discussed on this forum. Put apsc in a7ii body, put full frame into nex7 body, evf on top, on left, on right for left eyed shooters, 4k is good, 4k is bad, better put ibis, aa filter, no aa filter… If sony staff reads this forum, they are on path towards certain schizofrenia.
..haha:) that´s right.
Or left… 😛
… or slightly off-center from the middle like the GH4/E-M1.
When I said put the EVF on the right, I didn’t think anyone would take it seriously!!!
Why not? I am left eyed in the first place, but i dont know how i would cope with left handed grip and shutter 😉
Well, the only person they’ll have to listen to is me, so they don’t have a too hard time.
😛
Then what are you waiting for, boy? Make their times harder!
Put 645Z sensor in A7II body- hybrid OVF/EVF. Quad card slots and 8k.
Under my christmas tree please.
So we can all whine again about lack of medium format sony lenses 😉
“Replaces both NEX-7 and a6000” is basically the same story of the a6000 replacing both NEX-6 and NEX-7. If it doens’t come with weather sealed body and weather sealed lenses, it’s not a NEX-7 successor, I’m pretty sure that by now a NEX-7 successor would have weather sealing and new lenses.
IBIS that works in video
was just at B&H picking up a drive, checked out the A7rii(nice!) Saw they were still selling the A6000 full steam ahead.
Hahaha! Sony is turning in to Canon!
It’s better to sell $3000 bodies than $699 bodies… APS-C is definitely put on back burner for that reason.
It’s all good from the point of view ofimmediate profit, but as a market strategy it may backfire.
I just think it is to early for Sony to manipulate and angry customers. Even for Canon with it’s huge market share playing audacious games with upgrades, crippling lower end models and lack of true development in sensor department bite them in the ass.
Sony please be wise, not yet please…
Sony sells a lot more A5xxx/A6xxx cameras than A7 series. The profit margin is smaller but I’m pretty sure they’re smart enough to keep developing new competitive APS-C products. They had some serious overheating issues with the new A6100 so they are being more careful before releasing it and I don’t blame them. In the meantime the A6000 is still selling very good because it’s still a competitive product in today’s market.
Please, no more, I can’t handle this anymore!
So…..? What happens?
Absolutely nothing. Until the next rumor.
This site should change name in “Sony alpha news and gossips”, which is a very valid site for.
As a rumours site is over.
A9- hybrid A&E mount camera- dual card slots, no lossy/fast processing. State of art SLT which flips up. It will melt faces.