A5100 unboxing video by John Sison.
Well, we are talking about a new not so exciting but very “solid” new E-mount camera. It doesn’t WOW you but it does well pretty much everything you will ever need! It’s basically a “cheaper” A6000 version as DxOmark (Click here) writes:
In fact it appears to use the same (A6000 sensor) unit with practically identical imaging performance (and identical AF functionality). Naturally some attractive features of the A6000 are missing, notably the EVF, higher continuous frame rate of up to 11fps and wireless flash control, but if those features aren’t high on your wants list then theA5100 looks like a tempting option.
The camera scores 80 points which is only 2 points behind the A6000 and easily out scores the direct competition like for example the E-M10 and GM1:
Not bad for such a tiny entry-level cam!
A5100 preorder link list:
A5100 black body at Amazon, Adorama, BHphoto, Sony Store US, Sony DE, Sony UK, Sony FR, Sony NL, Sony IT,
A5100 black with kit lens at Amazon, Adorama, BHphoto, Sony Store US.
A5100 white with kit lens at Amazon, Adorama, BHphoto.
Sony RM-SPR1 Remote Commander with Multi Terminal, 2.6′ Cord at Adorama.
Sony LCS-EBD Body Case for Alpha NEX 5000 and 5100 Mirrorless Digital Camera, Leather Like Material, Brown at Adorama.
Sony LCS-EBD Body Case for Alpha NEX 5000 and 5100 Mirrorless Digital Camera, Leather Like Material, Black at Adorama.
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No competition from the M43 cameras and only one point behind the 5DM3.
Well it seems people still don’t get it. DxO is bases it’s scores on sensor size, so a 1″ will never be able to score as m43 sensor and so forth.
I allways look at the output and there is little to no difference between the formats m43 and APS-C in IQ.
If you can’t see the difference you need glasses or you just fooling yourself. Remember; the easiest person to fool is yourself.
Yeah right, I can fool my friends real good sometimes 😛
DxO Mark scores are only “based on sensor size” in as far as physics is based on sensor size. Larger sensors are better in several metrics, no way around it.
But you are also correct that in real life there is very little difference between say m43 and APSC. That’s because all sensors are so good these days. Human vision is not good at picking up small differences in noise at very low noise levels. But even this is reflected in the DxO scores, in a roundabout way: 80 vs 71 isn’t that much better, right?
Give me a 5DmkIII for €529 and I’ll take it over an A6000 or A5100 anytime ! Seriously, the IQ of the 5DmkIII is way beyond that of an A6000. I love Sony, and I’m really hesitating between an A6000 and an A7 right now (if I have to buy FE lenses, it may be a better choice to take an A7, but still, I like that A6000), but please, don’t compare what can’t be compared.
Everything can be compared, as long as there is a clear purpose and proper focus. The sensor in the A5100 is indeed great.
I really wish that people would look beyond the single numeric marking. I servers little purpose beyond boasting as it’s simply impossible to sum up the performance characteristics of a sensor in a single number.
What’s more important is to look at the actual measurements to appreciate what it’s telling you about the camera performance. In reality, the Canon 5D is better at high ISOs than the A5100, as you’d expect from a sensor well over twice the area. However, like all current Canon sensors it has relatively poor noise characteristics in dark areas which adversely affects the maximum dynamic range. Now whether the latter is important or not, depends on the type of image. If you need to “boost” shadow areas it does. However, for many types of photography it’s not particularly relevant.
Conversely, if you are taking high-iso pictures at, for instance, a gig then the Canon 5D will perform significantly better than the A5100. (Although not the A7).
It might serve little purpose, but it does show that the Sony sensor is indeed great. You yourself are minimizing its advantages – or many types of photography it’s not particularly relevant – but I’d dare say that good DR and pulling shadows is as relevant as shooting in very high ISOs.
Your wishes are irrelevant, everything must be analyzed and quantified, including your opinion which I give a score of 10.789 to the power of 1/2 out of 100.
I feel Sony should just concentrate on 1 low end model & 1 hi-end model. 1 FF Nex. Also 1 low end A-mount & 1 hi end A-mount. There really isn’t much need for something in between due to convenient phone cameras these days. Maximise the marketing dollar with fewer models is more effective.
I tend to agree, however, I think it’s nice to have the choice of body size as well as features for cameras. So I expect also a DSLR shaped FF body to come for those bigger lenses
I just got my A5100 from B&H today. I don’t need professional-quality – and it’s far better than anything I could’ve imagined myself creating, video-wise just a year or two ago.
I love this little camera.
For the compact size of the camera, it’s as close to DSLR quality as technology allows.
Do people REALLy watch an entire “unboxing”? is you life that sad and pathetic? People need to get out from behind their desks and just take their cameras out instead of spreading opinions on no-life videos like this
many people cannot afford the camera yet, especially in under-developed countries where such camera may as well cost several months’ salary. Watching the “unboxing” is not a shameful thing.
Isn’t this an opinion on the video? Why are you opining, instead of out with your camera?
Well, I have to agree that most unboxings are utterly boring and mostly a waste of time, for some it is the closest thing to holding it in their hands.
On the other hand, I would prefer that they just (p)review the dang thing instead of babbling about the specs we already know.
Usually never watch an “unboxing”. Today Ooops
Too bad, that it´s so close to the A6000 (price wise). At least here in europe the kits (together with the 16-50mm power zoom) are just 20 to 30€ apart. (Though: That´s only the case, when the A6000 kits are reduced at a few dealer. But still – At the actual pricing the A5100 makes no sense in my opinion. Just wait for an A6000 deal and you´re getting an overall better equipped camera at about the same price point.)
Sure, it doesn’t look good now, but it’s a bit unfair to compare the price of a camera just launched to that of one released over 6 months ago. The price of the A5100 will drop. Plus I’m sure they’ll be an A6100 along soon enough that will widen the gap once more.
This must be one of the strangest arguments I have ever heard. Shall the world stop comparing until a price level is reached that is favorable for this particular product? Sony’s A6000 is a much better product and it costs more or less the same price.
In these days, you always pay for “newness”. Of course you can compare prices, but keep the previous in mind. Sony will profit when consumers jump on the new thing (just like any company). If you are right that the A6000 is a much better product for almost the same price (and hence consumers choose the A6000 over the A5100, which you assume) Sony will be pressed to lower the A5100 price, which it surely will do.
And they’re still trying to clear the last 3 generations…
I doubt that many people pay for ‘newness’. Sony’s NEX 6 has been and still is an Amazon bestseller pricesely beacuse people do not want to pay much more for a similar product. This is bad for the industry but it is a fact.
I wasn’t saying that many people did that, but that early buyers DO pay full price because it’s new.
Perhaps if I put it more simply. A gap will open up. There’s is little gap now because the A5100 was only recently released,
The world can and will do whatever it wants. As to whether the A6000 is a better product, that’s for other people to decide themselves. Some would prefer the touch screen and XAVC-S codec of the A5100 over the viewfinder and extra button or two of the A6000. You don’t speak for everyone.
Have a great day!
I much prefer to codec and don’t care about the viewfinder. it’s the perfect camera for me.
Sure – They have the chance to lower the price til christmas sale period (which isn´t THAT far away any more). But actually the sales are for sure quite bad (especially with all the A6000 deals out there). ^^
On the other hand Sony maybe just want to clear out the A6000 stock as far as possible (to announce something new – “APS-C like” – in the spring-announcement ^^).
Good times for customers =)
I already had a chance to play with it. What I don’t like about it is the plastic they used as it remembers me of the cheap plastic used in the a3000.
Wouldn’t it be more appropriate to compare the sensor to apsc sized mirrorless sensors like Fuji’s rather than two m43’rds sensors? Just curious, I get the same segment argument but at least one apsc would make some sense, especially since we are looking at sensor performance rather than something the format influences.
DXO doesn’t test X-Trans
Ok them, eos m, or any apsc sensor from Canon et al ( probably less useful from nikon pentax etc as they use Sony sensors anyway).
I guess they don’t see them as competition? Anyway you can compare any sensors you want (that they have tested that is).
All canon sensors suck on DXOMARK. Fuji xtrans is just modified Sony sensor. So I guess the only competitor left is Samsung. (Let’s wait for NX1 get dxomarked)
The E-M10 is a more of a competitor for the A6000 considering it has a lot of controls and features that the A5100 doesn’t have. Also, pricewise the kits are on the same level (A6000 kit and E-M10 kit).
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Comparing aps-c with mft is like comparing ff to aps-c or medium format to ff. Anyway a camera is not all about the sensor. I agree that tha A5100 has a better sensor than the E-M10 but it’s more of a point&shoot that lacks external controls while the E-M10 is more serious.
It’s one point behind NEX-7…C’mon Sony…
This camera needs one or two more hardware dials.
It’s an entry model meant to be with minimum dials, or else how would they market a6000?
Your reasoning is not correct. The previous models 5r and 5t competed against another previous model Nex6 … and sony did not have problems marketing it. One extra hardware dial button is seriously missing and whatever your logic on marketing, it’s a big user flaw unless sony made a usable touchscreen.
How do you know Sony didn’t have problems marketing those? It’s widely known that the NEX 6 sold very well, but I don’t think anybody mentioned much about the 5 series’ sales with the 6 in production, especially after the 6 has dropped in price.
If you call that “missing” then you have a great deal of entry level cameras missing a dial.
The same goes for the touchscreen. If the competition all have a touchscreen, Sony may add it to it’s high end offerings. IMO a touchscreen is unnecessary and a little amateurish. I’ve always done fine without one. If you want one so badly go get a Leica T.
It would be nice if the a6000 had wireless flash function, but it has not. You can use the wireless flash function only with a external flash, not with the build in flash.
I don’t really understand these dxo numbers.
http://www.dxomark.com/About/Sensor-scores
Where are the IMPORTANT Numbers ?? What is the score for Cat Photo (72 DPI)) posted on the ‘net ?? What is the score for Magazine Cover (150 DPI) ?? DXO doesn’t have much to do with the real world.