Image on top shows the silhoutte of the current Sony A77.
Well, let’s start with some serious rumor about the next Sony announcement! Multiple sources confirmed an announcement is scheduled for very early May. We are still not how many products Sony will announce. For sure there will be a new A77II A-mount camera. But I still hope there will be some major surprises too (FE lenses, RX cameras and so on…).
A77II:
14 months after the A58 announcement we will finally get a new A-mount camera! We already know the name of the A77 successor is “A77II“. And now one of our trusted sources said he “heard” the A77II will use a new 24 Megapixel sensor. The source didn’t confirm yet if it’s the same 24 MP sensor with the super fast Hybrid AF used by the newly announced A6000 sensor. The source also said the camera has NFC and WiFi and while he didn’t share any AF specs he said it should be extremely fast.
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Sounds good
People are in fact waiting for mirroless A99II
Not all people. For example, I, in fact don’t waiting for mirrorless A99II.
yess!! i’d like to this new FF!! 🙂
Some maybe, but certainly not all. I have no interest at all in mirror-less unless it gives me fast AF tracking with ALL lenses and that ain’t gonna happen any time soon.
My interest is firmly with the incoming SLT A77II.
Correction: people are waiting for the A99II , whether it’s mirrorless or SLT or made from candy.
I certainly would be disappointed to see mirrorless A99 successor. No need to have a camera with crippled AF.
Difficult rumors time, no major info leaks from Sony. A bit disappointing but not your fault Andrea! Thank you!
I am expecting a 32 MP sensor.
Ohhhhhhh…. only 24MP? Admin is going to feel Barry’s wrath now… Lol…
SAR Trek II: The Wrath of Barry
haha…
ROTFL……
Desolation of Barry
By the quality and frequency of “worth to know” rumors, It seems that Sony leaks less specs than in the past. Or maybe this site is filled with so much other stuff that rumors now seems more sparse compared to the past.
Where’s my 32Mpix sensor? I want more cropping capabilities! I’m disappointed if this i true.
I want 200MP and a 14mm lens then I don’t need to change lenses. Stupid sony.
But without any distortion and f/0.2
Since I never print photos, I don’t need more resolution than FullHD. That’s about 2Mpx. Let’s say 6Mpx for cropping purposes. All above that is just lost on me.
That’s why in the camera settings you can select the desired resolution.
I wouldn’t read too much into this. Sony are busy laying a
very clever smoke screen about this camera release and are happy to let
snippets of disinformation slip out at regular intervals. Some of the rumours
we have discussed previously on SAR must be true, trouble is which ones?
I´m expecting an A6000 in a bigger body… (same sensor, af) with much better evf, great ibis, maybe faster processor and a semi pro body. (maby no translucent mirror)
Why? because it makes economically sense.
24 Megapixel will do for me, what I want is just better noise performance to compensate for that translucent mirror…other than that, its all good
This is the first clever comment in this thread…
I would like a translucent mirror that could be locked up and use on sensor AF (less performant) in order to get high iso great pics (night pictures)
a far better buffer for burst and the possibility to set a medium fps at 5 fps
improvement in battery usage or same battery with more capacity
and also an included system to pilot the camera with computer/tablet/smartphone (via WiFi for ex)
Yep. Mirror lock-up is pretty much THE major thing that A-mount needs right now. All of the other stuff is secondary to that.
Sony, just focus on the E mount already. That’s where the future is, and your lens development there is sorely lacking. Stop wasting your resources on these legacy devices.
These “legacy” devices are outselling E-mount cameras by a wide margin. CaNikon are in no hurry dropping dSLR because outside of Asia dSLR sales are crushing CSC sales.
Had Sony invested in their A-mount then by now they would have had a very large slice of the CaNikon dSLR pie.
Why? You think it’s a zero-sum game and if Sony abandons all the a-mount fans like myself to focus on your needs that you’ll be showered with love? There’s a fundamental disconnect with reality.
If cash-strapped Sony were to free up the handful of engineers working on a-mount tech by dumping the line they’d be as likely to lay them off as to pump out a lot of new e-mount stuff SAR camera nerds lust for. Why? Because much of the stuff SAR camera nerds lust for to meet their personal needs like a NEX-7 replacement Sony has obviously dropped for now not because they lack engineers but because they don’t see a market need.
One problem I see right off the bat with dumping the a-mount is the only extensive lens collection Sony has is the a-mount one. Without a native body to support it they’ll die off as well. Leaving Sony with no lens support to meet many photography use cases. Before you claim Sony can pump out e-mount versions, you’ve got to realize the typical e-mount user likes thumping their chests over “small and light” so they will have kittens over the bulk of many types of lenses like telephoto and very fast primes that you can scale down only so much.
Some day Sony might make a pancake 70-400mm but I wouldn’t hold my breath. ;^)
The bottom line is Sony needs an a-mount to be a serious camera maker for pros. Or they can be a niche player in the pro market.
A mount users are of no consequence to the future. They are also the least intelligent because they don’t like change.
Just what SAR needs. Another sock puppet troll. ;^)
Just what the world needs. Another Hobbit fan. ;^)
So which regular contributor are you really cowardly hiding in a sock puppet? ;^)
No need. You have a hobbit’s name ;^)
Come on, why should Sony want to scrap the A-mount line? A lot of parts are shared between A and E-mount: image processors, sensors, flash system, you name it. Even in the lens department there are shared parts and know-how between A and E mount versions.
Basically, is is not such a great effort for Sony to keep both lines, and cover a bigger market. They are not completely separate entities.
Sony please stop trying to force feed this stillborn horse named A mount. It won’t grow. Mirrorless is the future. Put ibis in some mirrorless bodies and it will shut up the people who wasted money on A mount lenses. Introduce better lenses to FE mount and everyone will upgrade eventually.
No they won’t. If Sony dump A-mount then I’d swap to CaNikon and so would the vast majority of SLT users. Do you really think we’d swap to another Sony system that they could get bored of and drop overnight?
Canon and Nikon doesn’t have ibis. If they get bored with E mount they will get bored with Canon and Nikon too. No one gives a rat’s ass about A mount except people who have foolishly put all their money in it. FE is being taken up by everyone across brands. Soon A mount will be forgotten.
FE doesn’t have any advantages over A at the moment for a new customer. Potentially yes, maybe, but none right now. I dare you to name one.
It’s not even compact.
So this is BS and you know it.
It is more compact. Maybe you never saw one in real life.
still not compact enough. RX series is there for this need. If anything – it’s lighter… but that too can be migrated by buying plastic lenses for A-mount (they’re lighter than E-mount equivalents).
I did. “More compact” is useless; either you need to carry a bag, or the camera fits in your pocket.
If you already need a bag, it doesn’t really matter what you stick in there, an A7 or an A99.
RX100 is compact. A7 is not.
My MacBook Pro is compact too, and it certainly hasn’t replaced my 8 core MacPro. My wife’s Corolla is compact but it hasn’t replaced my SUV.
Compact System Cameras give up features for the weight savings, and size. They’re compromised from the start
So compact cameras (squeakier toys) really only appeal to a small group of weight sensitive weaklings.
Canon and Nikon have optical stabilisation, they don’t need IBIS. When I said “they” I meant Sony, not the user. Sony will get bored of E-mount and drop it for something else, then people who have swapped form A-mount to E-mount will be really annoyed, while CaNikon users carry on for decades using CaNikon glass and accessories with full third-party support from manufacturers who know that their products will continue to be supported by CaNikon.
Swapping from A-mount to E-mount does NOTHING for existing SLT users. You might as well jump from the frying pan into the fire.
> Put ibis in some mirrorless bodies and it will shut up the people who wasted money on A mount lenses.
> Introduce better lenses to FE mount and everyone will upgrade eventually.
Uhm… that would be A-Mount. E-Mount with better lenses and IBIS is exactly what A-Mount is right now…
Are you even talking about the Mount? What does a mount have to do with the Mirror? If i take out the mirror of my a99, is it an E-Mount then?
Gosh…
Better than what A mount has. Look at the crippled sorry excuse they call a lens line up on A mount. They have shown they can make better smaller lenses for FE.
If you take the mirror out from A99 it doesn’t become FE. How stupid are you?
Yeah this awesome 35mm 2.8 oh wait… The Sigma is better and cheaper but this awesome wide 16-35 oh wait… There is none xD
The 24-70 is…. Well identical to a mount but less fast…
Well the 70-200 isn’t expected to be good either, only an 50mm standard lense left which is most likely to be beaten by the new Sigma too… maybe, not sure. Anyway I won’t use the worse system just for one single good 50mm lense xD stupid xD
I’m find the ‘multiple personality’ sock puppet trolls on SAR to be comically ridiculous. Great FE lenses like the new Zeiss distortion monster zoom drawing mediocre reviews? Certainly, a7/a7R is capable of very fine pics and Sony has come out with some nice FE primes but there are nice a-mount lenses that are hardly ‘crippled.’
I guess you’re creating sock puppets so your primary account isn’t associated with weak, ridiculous arguments.
[YAWN] Been there, done that. Reminds me of the line from the Lord of the Rings trilogy: “That’s all you’ve got?”
Very, very disappointing. Obviously, Sony can bump IQ without bumping pixel count but my suspicion that this camera is going to be a very marginal improvement in IQ like all of Sony’s APC-C revs is leading me back to the belief my one hope is an affordable FF a-mount. Personally, a bump – even a significant one – in AF speeds or frame rates doesn’t merit an upgrade.
1. Because Canon and Nikon are releasing ground breaking gear??
2. Maybe not an upgrade if you already own the a77. But what about people new to Sony? Those tweaks and upgrades make it worth a purchase.
i think he is comparing Sony to Sony and maybe not Sony to brand X, Y or Z. Why would one need to compare to other brands instead of comparing to ones wishes? ….
If they want to upgrade from a77 they think it isn’t good enough. Then why did they buy it in the first place?
Yep!
The comment was about why would sony release a camera with such small updates (in their eyes). My point was to show Canon and Nikon are not exactly releasing ground breaking new equipment so what is their bases of complaining? Faster autofocus, faster frame rate.. what more updates do you need to release a new camera?
Anyone remember the hype train over the a77…..it will have iso 100,000. Then turned out to have just 25,000 with worse IQ than Nikons entry levels and even managed worse than Canons entry level.
People provided excuses that it was bc of the high 24mp but then Nikon turnd around and beat sony at its own 24mp APSC game with far better IQ. Now the excuses have pushed to the SLT mirror as the problem.
Sony will pick top shelf parts to build a camera but stitch it together with masking tape. They make most of the markets best sensors but then cripple it’s potential.
Please let it record up to 4k. I’d buy it instantly!
I have absolutely no interest in just another 24mp bayer camera.
I was told this would be a 32mp c size sensor and although I would have prefferred 36 I was still excited about buying one.
If as I this post indicates this turns out to be another 24mp slt that will indeed be a game changer..to a game I am unwilling to play and will not buy.
Sony is not playing to win they are only playing for a stalemate.
Huge dissapointment if true.
Didn’t you talk with a sony executive who told you it would be 32mp?
Yes
Maybe they told you that because you were whining about 36MP sensor and wanted to ditch you?
Yeah, you’re real comedian. Like all of SAR’s rumors, even SR5’s, are slam-dunk accurate. ;^)
If Sony deleberately lied to me KNOWING that I would post what they said..AND THEY DID KNOW I WAS GOING TO POST WHAT THEY SAID..it would be a very sad commentary on thier integrity.
I an taking a wait and see attitude and will reserve my judjement until after the official anouncement.
You can be sure I will have something to say at that time.
Sorry Barry, but I hope I am wrong in suspecting that you deliberately posted false or invented information – I have suspected that since you posted it a number of weeks ago.
Either you would be correct – “All Hail Barry!” – a nice ego boost for you, or you would be wrong and you could use that as an opportunity to claim that Sony lied to you and question their integrity after they didn’t give you what you wanted.
Following this rumour, your post above seems to be the start of that negative reaction.
We await your “judgement”, but I’m afraid it might be YOUR integrity that is questioned if the information you posted does not turn out to be true.
The pricing you were given sounds more plausible, particularly if it shares the a sensor with the A6000
If this turns out to be just an A mount version of the A6000 then the price would typically be the same or a little less.
Also if the sensor is basically the same then Sony has put very little expense into producing this camera.
The A77 is a larger more robust design, if that stays the same then the A77II should come in a bit more money than the A6000, but should be less than the A77
If it is just an A-mount version of the A6000, then it shouldn’t be called the A77II.
Obviously people at Sony like to see you making fool from yourself.
Mission accomplished.
So I am a fool therefore you are much smarter than me.
Thant you for that usefull information.
Certainly possible your executive saw an A77 with a 32 mp sensor and SLT and another prototype using the 24 MP A6000 sensor was selected for production instead. Depends on how close to the decision point your exec was and if Sony changed their mind later, and what really shows up in the end. People and companies will change their minds and will leak false information as well.
I wouldn’t take it so seriously it could have been a mistake on the sony manager’s side… Don’t think they are that organised to attempt such malicious act anyways.
What exactly is an “Sony Executive”? Im starting to think that people talking to sales persons and cleaning personal are treatened like “Executives”
Other than Sony’s game-changing move to mirrorless FF with the a7/a7R, they’re really not showing me much. And, yes, I get e-mount fanboys being excited over the a6000’s faster AF.
I’m all for incremental revs but I don’t expect much of an a77II IQ bump. Not enough of one to justify an upgrade from my a65 (the $1,000+ expected retail price is real money to me). The really sad news it if Sony flubs the a77II it’s a huge missed opportunity at reviving the a-mount and we’ll have to wait another 2+ years for Sony’s constantly disappointing marketing department to wake up and do something interesting with a-mount APS-Cs.
I have been waiting a very long time to upgrade my a77 and a65.
In that time there have been multiple rounds of hype followed by dissapointment.
I was deliberately given some snippets of info and made it perfectly clear I would post them.
While I would expect some inaccuracies the differrence between 32 and 24mp is not anything I would considder an “inaccuracy”
I will wait till I am certain what the truth is and then comment on it.
miss information is std biz works. keeps the competition guessing
Chill! As I said in a comment made earlier in this post I
feel Sony are doing a bit of ‘smoke screening’ here ahead of the full A77II launch,
to throw the competition off the scent a little. I am confident what you
reported to us a few weeks back, about the 32MP sensor, will turn out to be
correct. Like you I would now be disappointed with anything less!
If the A6000 really is the replacement for the NEX-7, then Sony haven’t increased pixel count. Therefore, I suspect the same will happen on the A77II.
As said before, 32MP on APS-C have the same pixel densitiy than 84 Megapixel FullFrame Sensor. Lets hope Sony is not that stupid and does that.
It would proof that sony doesnt have at least a bit of technical knowledge which is a really game changer, but not for Sony
I think 16Mp would be more than enough. 24Mp is already a bit of an overkill. 32Mp is waaaay to much, slower to write/process with little to no benefits.
Wouldn’t sticking your tongue into an electric socket be more productive than this comment?
That wasn’t very friendly, was it Barry? People are allowed to disagree with you and post their opinions on megapixel counts, are they not?
Maybe you need to get that Sony executive to call you back again, although I’m still sceptical that conversation ever happened, and if it did, I don’t think it was an executive you spoke to.
According to you, the official announcement of most of the specs you provided should have been made weeks ago – “Big announcement in next couple of weeks..a lot of this info will be released then”. Well, what happened?
Sometimes people make comments for the sole purpose of aggrevating others and for no other reason.
That is why I labeled the comment as unproductive.
I believe you are very aware that many comments are made for the purpose of upsetting or insulting people rather than for thier educational content.
Repeating yourself over and over again is productive on a production line, on a forum, not so much. Practice what you preach.
If you want 36MP so bad why not just grab a D800? Or, just wait a bit longer for the A99 replacement. It makes no sense to be completely upset over this. Is it a disappointment? Sure, but its not like there aren’t options out there or on the way.
No more then your original one. If you have absolutely no interest, why post it over and over again in every thread.
> I was told this would be a 32mp c size sensor
You got fooled, get over it dammit.
Why should Sony be suddenly abel to break the law of physics?
24 Megapixel on APS-C already have the same pixel density than 60 Megapixel von FullFrame!!! Have you seen any FullFrame Camera with 60 Megapixel? People start whining when the D800 with 36 came out.
36 Megapixel on APS-C would be equivalent to 94,66 Megapixel on FullFrame, if you would have at least a tiny bit of technical knowledge you would know that this is absolutely nonsense!
Even 32 Megapixels on APS-C would have the same pixel density as an 84 Megapixel FullFrame Sensor.
We slowly start to hit the limit! The a77 is only usable up to ISO 1600, an increase to 36 Megapixel would limit the usabilty to about ISO 400
Get out of your dream world! Thanks God Sony does not listen to its customers, seems like most of them are apes.
Honestly who really gives a shit. It’s going to be a great camera.
An increase in resolution would in no way lower the usable ISO, if you resize images to the same size.
At the same time, at ISO100, if conditions permit, you will be able to get more details.
A real issue is, 36Mp files are huge and slow to write/process.
It’s a 32mp sensor. The specs have remained constant since May 2013. They are currently in production.
Allot of Canon, and Nikon users are pissed that the A77 is coming out with such a high resolution sensor so soon.
Brwat
You have been saying for longer than me that this will be 32mp
This is a serious question as I share your desire for this to be 32mp.
How do you know and how certain do you think you are?
I’m 85% certain. Its original design specifications that were patented in May of 2013 included its 32mp sensor specifications.
Thanx
Exmor hd is a new class/designation of sensor
If true that is encouraging.
A77 with the A6000 sensor and focus system, assuming it worked with screw drive lenses, would be a nice improvement and make the camera better but not worth an upgrade to a current A77 owner IMO. The 32 MP specs above would make the camera a tempting upgrade to current A77 owners and be a big step up. Assuming the price could be kept reasonable.
The tech should be similar but the sensors are much different. The A77 sensor is optimized for use with a SLT mirror. It will likely be a much faster camera, with a deeper buffer.
It should be a great companion for macro lenses, and large telephoto zooms.
yeah right especially with all that pro glass from sony 😉
The A-Mount already has a shit-tonne of excellent Zeiss, and G-Series lenses fucktard!!!
> Huge dissapointment if true.
Disappointed cause yet again it come out you were talking BS?
Oh, shock and horror.
I couldn’t care less with the 24MP but I want higher buffer depth, let me shoot consistent 12fps burst longer than A77’s 1 second
On second thoughts, to hell with A mount. FE is the way to go.
Yeah, because we all know the a7/a7R are hell on wheels when it comes to fps. ;^)
In the context of buffer depth and high speed burst, I think the a6000 is a more comparable camera.
Get a video camera. You’re not photographer
4 or 400 lenses to pick from? I’ll stay with A-mount just fine and have a full lens line-up.
Ok then. I’ll only buy a SD card with Wi-Fi to my current A77 and done. Better IQ, but worth a new price ??
Is your current A77 worth nothing? Sell it and look at the price difference.
I am a photographer, not a camera collector.
I don’t need better camera, I need better pictures.
No I think you’re a plain idiot. Didn’t you just ask if the better iq is worth the price?
No moron, I asked IF the improvement in IQ will be sufficient to justify the price increase.
nonsense
you are not a photographer until you are holding Hassleblad Medium Format 😉
i agree with you
Unless this 24 megapixel is somehow stacked sensor technology and offers ridiculously insane AF speed, why upgrade when you don’t need it 🙂
Makes sense. If you don’t need it, don’t buy it.
Unless you want it of course…
I’m ok with this. Would 36MP be nice? Sure, but its not needed and if they want to brag lightening AF and buffer clearing speed 36MP wouldn’t be helping the cause. To warrant an upgrade it will have to offer a real jump. I see a touch screen, revised interface, better JPEG, Wifi, tethering and higher quality EVF that adjusts depending on outside brightness. These are a no-brainer that could push me to buy it. Omit these and whats the point?
hopefully without a low pass filter. i really wonder why this option hasnt become standard already. its 2014…
Are you sure it would be an early May announcement, sound very optimistic. Remembering products like this one in the past, they always get pushed back to the last quarter of the year. (I hope they prove me wrong)
Remember, it was suppose to be in January.
I think it’ll have the same sensor with Hybrid AF the a6000 has (just like the NEX-7 with orig. a77). Since we haven’t seen how good the a6000 is in terms of IQ (compared to other cameras), I can hope they’ll be better. I think it’s just a cropped 36MP FF with new AF tech plus BIONZ X.
That sound very plausible
Would be a cropped 54 MP FF sensor a cropped 36 MP FF would only be 16 MP APS-C
Yeah Apologize for that. They can still crop the 36 MP FF and then increase the number of pixel sensor which will eventually also increase the pixel count.
My issue is that I do think e mount is the future. Heck, even Mark Weir stated the technology is advancing every month over at Sony. It’s also were the money is at but I don’t see these cameras offering anything alpha doesn’t already offer.
I have no problem with adaptors, speedboosters- great additions for any camera fanatic and useful advantage with e-mount. But the cost of the glass, lack of lenses- it’s like you moving a dozen eggs from one basket over to another just to end up with less money in your wallet. What’s the point? I get the point actually….we’ve plateaued in terms of IQ and we aren’t seeing the massive jumps in advancements like a decade ago. My number one criticism is that there is zero advantage to jumping from a-mount to e-mount. This is why Sony will loose alpha users to Canikon instead of ending up in migration.
Think about it…high ISO…yawn. 3600 is more than anyone should ever need. Most commercial photographers rarely go above 200 and only in emergencies. NR software smears out the details anyway. Dynamic range..yawn again. Still not as good as film in my opinion and for those blow me away shots you’ll use bracketing.
Every other major increase is just a packed in add on. Faster FPS? Video? Yawn again for most photographers. We’re not buying cameras anymore, we’re buying computers. And if you ask me what we need is new sensor technology- which we all know is around the corner in about another 1.5-2 years. Non-bayer, organic…ability to adjust exposure per pixel. Until then I see a rough road ahead for Sony. With that said, they are going to push e-mount until they can’t push it anymore.
Hmmm like that analogy “we are not buying cameras anymore, we’re buying computers.”
“3600 is more than anyone should ever need”
Like someone said some ppl here are plain stupid.
Give me an example where you would need more? Educate me genious. Like someone said on here….to many trolls.
You should learn to spell genius, genius.
You still didn’t answer the question. Answer the question or STFU. I’m not the genius here, you are…so educate me.
Why do some people think (not only in photography…) that the only truth is their truth????
Where do I need higher ISOs than 3600? E.g. when shooting jazz concerts in jazz clubs.
And though I’m always shooting in RAW there are times I switch to RAW+JPEG: For example I know a body painter – and he loves my shootings after havng done his work – but he doesn’t “allow” me to leave before he has gotten some “preview” JPGs…
And if you are doing part of your work for the press (as I do) you need both high ISO and fast turn arounds….
The problem is people get so pissed off on here if you state your opinion. Where the hell did I mention my opinion being the only truth? Give me a break. I’d love cleaner ISO at higher settings- who wouldn’t? What I am saying is that it is over rated..WAY over rated. Even the best sensors out there still have noise at higher ISO settings and it isn’t preferable to lower settings- period. That’s not going to change anytime soon. It still doesn’t negate the issue regarding poor lighting. High ISO doesn’t make up for bad lighting- it’s just a fact.
Now I’m sure the jazz concerts and low light venues like that would be a good place to use higher ISO. I’d still prefer to use a fast prime and in that case stay as low as possible in terms of ISO. I’ve shot dark venues and with the right prime haven’t had to go above 1600.
The two times where extra iso would be good for me is music photography, and dance photography. Bars are pretty dim places, and lighting on stage is sometimes not enough to freeze the motion of dancers. For me though, it’s not so much going beyond 3600, as it is making 3600 look like 100.
go and try to shoot a wedding in church, where a flash is forbidden
sometimes ISO 6400 to get 1/50 all the way my fried 🙂
or try a dim lighten concert…some sport indoors..etc…
Years ago someone said ISO 1600 was more than enough for anyone.
Slowly slowly that figure is bound to get higher and higher.
Wedding photographers and Astro photographers will be up in arms on that ISO comment of yours. 😛
Thanks for the intellegent response unlike the guy below me. Wedding photography? I’m not sure I can agree as I do weddings and never seem to have a problem. I can see pushing it to 6400ISO for indoor sporting events but weddings? I’ve never seen the need above 3200 and I don’t know many pro photographers that have advocated the need above this.
High ISO is a compromise and is invariably leads to worse photos than good lighting at low ISO settings. ISO does not negate the affects of poor lighting- you should be seeking good light. Astro photography- yep, can’t argue with that. But how many people are buying cameras for astro photography?
Ah I am from India and most Indian weddings take place at night.
So I regularly shoot at ISO 800 and 1600. I don’t go higher because I have a crop camera but my friends with Canon FF cameras regularly go higher as the light drops.
Most of them shoot with available light and don’t use flash as a lot of high end Indian weddings are outdoors and so flash usage gives very flat lighting as there is nothing to bounce the flash on and most of the ambient lighting is also killed.
And yes a lot of my friends are landscape photographers and with the advent of FF, many have started shooting night sky photos. Those are shot at generally high ISOs like 6400 and above since most UWA lenses have a max aperture of f2.8 only.
I don’t know much about wedding photography, but i’ve done enough flash photography to be able to tell that with an off camera flash, you can do really creative photography in low light, if you know how to use it well. I’ve seen people using off camera flash, on a tripod, to the either side of the subject, with a large diffuser. Results were stunning.
One key point with the flash photography is, if you want to soften your light, use a larger light source, such as a dedicated diffuser. From what i’ve read, a light source has to be larger than subject’s face, so that directly translates into a large diffuser.
Yes you can use excellent flash photography if you have time to compose your shot. If you have ever even attended a large Indian wedding you will know that time to set up your shot is practically non existent. You have to keep running around like an idiot and follow the action.
>Think about it…high ISO…yawn. 3600 is more than anyone should ever need
Only if your subjects are standing still… or you can ask them to stand still…
For me at least, this is almost never the case…
“Most commercial photographers rarely go above 200 and only in emergencies” – you probably mean posed photography? If you shoot events, political rallies, night clubs, animals etc. etc., you need all the ISO you can get…
I’ll take that. I don’t disagree and you make a valid point. I still see using faster primes as a better remedy in terms of freezing action when possible.
You can only go so fast before you need to bump the ISO. Try shooting a starry sky with a deep field effect and you’ll have to bump the ISO as high as it can go, without causing noise.
I tried with A65 + a 2.8 lens @ 3200 and the noise is too high, shutter is not fast enough for the image not to get smudged by earth’s rotation. By my calculations, in order for me to get the image that I wanted, I’d have to go with f1.4 lens and an ISO around 12800.
Considering that i’m an amateur enthusiast, photography doesn’t pay my bills, so i can’t exactly afford a D800 with $1500 primes.
Alright you all. You have to take this more easily and stop harassing other people just because they disagree. Sony is the one making the big bucks and you all are fighting to each other.
My two A77 have done great photography for the last two years, and I agree that it needs better improvements in JPEG quality in low light, better buffer to those of you that shoot sports, and perhaps WiFi if you really have to (that I have it solved with the EyeFi Card) but don’t expect an APS-C sensor camera to go above 24MP.
There has to be an equilibrium between price (affordability) and technology so they can sell.
Keep on photographing and if you don’t like Sony cameras, click on the links atop this page and move to another forum where you feel you can fit.
You have two a77 and shoot JPEG? Makes me really want to listen to your opinions.
daaaaamn low blow
I do have 2 A77 and shoot JPEG and RAW. It all depends what job I’m doing and for whom I’m working. The A77 excels in good light but if you don’t know how to optimize your camera is your loss. Stop complaining and start shooting. Have a blessed day.
Even point and shoots excel in good light. They also shoot JPEG. So you should just take a point and shoot for your work.
I see, and you are? And where is your work?
I’ll show my work when I stop speaking facts.
I am sure you just do great like most of us here. It’s just the fact of respecting someone else opinion what matters. Once again, have a blessed day!
Shooting JPEG is not the problem. A camera company providing a less than adequate JPEG engine or codec is.
Cause you full of troll shit @sigh
jpg is often used when a very fast turn around is needed, or in situations where huge raw files are impracticle
Yes, like holiday snaps
I hope your creativity and professionalism is as big as your writing.
Great explanation in simple terms!
I’ts lazy and unprofessional, learning an efficient raw file workflow results in better images and takes no more time than viewing JPG images.
I have had shoots where the client wanted the photos on the same day just after the shoot ended so that he can send it to the press.
There is zero possibility of waiting for the RAW files to process and shooting JPEG is the best possible option.
Don’t get me wrong I never shoot JPEG otherwise but at times JPEG is required. Most press photographers shoot JPEG only.
Sony offers the option to shoot JPEG. If you don’t use it thats fine but its rude to diss someone else that does.
I shoot RAW 99% of the time but when I need to shoot JPEG I am most often than not disappointed.
And you do what for a living???
Not shoot jpegs. That’s what.
This place is full of pompous fake pros who use crap cameras. Says a lot about the jobs they get.
Allot of them are just starting out. It takes allot of cash to get rolling properly especially when you have to payback your student loans.
The A77 fits that niche until they can step up to an A99, and Zeiss lenses.
Pro’s don’t neccessarily need the best equipment available to churn excellent images, we have the education (Diploma/Degree), skill, and years of being mentored by a seasoned photographer.
Real pro’s shoot JPEG. They also don’t buy into full frame hype.they shoot micro four thirds. Now that I think about it, real pros shoot medium format and anything less is crap. Thanks for pointing out the obvious and letting us all know that bigger is better.
Let’s all be honest….most of us reading this thread are assuming “sigh” is just a troll that doesn’t actually shoot quality ANYthing.
Anyone who talks that much and puts up nothing to back it up is usually just a mouth with no real skilset.
+1 An Empty Barrel makes the most noise.
I like that.
I agree the A77 is an excellent camera that does have some weak points that will hopefully be addressed. The A77 is a fantastic camera to use on the 70-200mm, 70-300mm, and 70-400mm G-Series lenses. Its 16-50mm f/2.8 lens is exceptional. This lens is should almost be a requirement for all of those who own a A77.
The A77 stays along side my A99 in the Pelican Case. I’m don’t fret over the ISO issues. The 16-50mm, 24-70mm, 70-200mm, 24mm f/2.0, 35mm f/1.4, 50mm f/1.4, 85mm f/1.4, and 135mm f/1.8 have allowed me to avoid/skip this problem altogether.
The A77 JPEG engine does need a major overhaul and hopefully the A77II corrects this shortcoming. The A7, and A7r JPEG engine is substantially better, and hopefully this will be implemented.
I think the low light quality will likely increase significantly. The new sensor, and SLT mirror will definitely allow the A77II to finally catch-up.
I will be buying one almost immediately.
It would be great if Sony produced lenses as fast and as frequent as they produce new E mount bodies..
I am pretty sure Sony is profitting alot more by producing low end mirrorlesss cameras for the masses.. but damn it is frustrating sometimes when I look at what is going on in Fuji.
Same goes for A mount cameras… I am hoping that Sony starts pumping out lenses for that system after the a77ii announcement.
Yes I really like Fuji full frame… oh, wait ;^)
I hope they make it smaller, like the size of an a58 or something.
I hope they won’t. NEX is already in there for dwarfs.
+1
When I started using my A65, it seemed perfect in size. Now, 2 years later, i believe i should have bought A77, due to its larger size as well as a host of extra features
What I really mean is I use a big SLR as a way of compensating for small bodily features.
I do use an SLR as a way of compensating for smal bodily features. You don’t have to take my lines…I can use them myself dumbass.
Awesome! How do you like yours?
Awesome! How do you like it?
The shocker is going to be price tag. It will be quite a be less than the A77.
How much, and who/what is your source?
This is speculation based on how Sony priced NEX-7, NEX-6 and the new (similar sensor as the rumored A77II) A6000. I am confident that Sony will not disappoint. 🙂
I am confident Sony will price it at least 50% higher than the A6000. At least.
What I said was that the price tag of the A77II will be lower than the initial price tag of the A77. 🙂
Considering the body only of Nikon D7100 is $1199 and body only of A77 was $1399, It is quite possible. Canon 70D is also $1199 and 7D is even more expensive. Keep in mind that these are MSRP prices.
It will most probably be $1199, or at the current MSRP rate of A77 on the Sony website of $1099
Yup, $1399 or higher would be simply untenable for Sony. It is likely (further speculation) to be $999 at debut.
I’m calling BS. Sony’s going to sell it for a premium for the first year. They’ll lower the price only after the hordes of early adopters buy it. If your lucky you might get a free battery grip.
Can’t say. The price of the A7 was downright neat. $1700 for a new FF at launch was a killer price. They could have easily priced it at $2000 and they still would have sold a bunch before having to reduce the price.
id like wifi, nfc, no aa filter and a extra scrolly wheel for iso. and have screen + evf on option, and better eyecup option.
plus normal improvements across the board 🙂
So you want three scroll wheels?
Isn’t just as easy to just press the ISO button and then use one of the two existing scroll wheels?
At least that way you don’t accidentally change your ISO if you end up bumping the wheel.
People don’t realize what a PITA Nex 7 was, there is no convincing them that tri-navi was a fail. Nikon d4 only has two dials, it works just fine. As you say, pushing the Fn button by the shutter actually offers way more control, you can set it to ISO, WB, creative style, and so much more.
not quite as easy, and it would be easier to keep you eye in the viewfinder as its easier todo it by touch, and they could use it for other stuff too, like change bracketing differences.
if you go back to a single wheel camera you soon notice the difference, its just not as good as 2 wheel, and 3 makes sense as you then got full easy control of exposure triangle, great for fast changing light situations 🙂
Looks like all the dpr-sony forum trolls have a 2nd home here – yawn.
And speaking of trolls…
I suspect it is one childish regular creating multiple sock puppet accounts to his a-mount hating agenda. What’s really funny is when the sock puppets start talking to each other! :^o
Its just the SAR way. All of the E-Mount, Nikon, and Canon trolls take shots at the A-Mount users, and we immediately return fire. Its like a WWE Royal Rumble.
Problem is, that by returning fire, we just keep feeding them. A trolls job is to make people respond. If people ignore him/her, a troll would go away. We, instead of ignoring them, keep feeding their thirst for trolling by responding.
Yeah your 100% right. I think all of us step into their troll traps from time to time.
I like the theory but in my experience that often doesn’t work out. Like I said, I’ve seen sock puppets talk to each other to build straw men or to make it look like their crackpot ideas have a lot of support. Sometimes you need to expose the originator and/or make them realize they’re looking like a clown.
Great news! I know Barry won’t be pleased but 24mp is perfect for me. Any news on detailed specs like af micro adjustment or the slt mirror? I’m assuming an updated mirror design could improve noise considerably…
I’m ecstatic they’re sticking with 24mp. I know some people think they need more, but for now, I think 24mp is perfect.
Actually I would have preferred a 16mp version with better low light performance for sports and faster AF and bigger buffer, 24mp APS-C sensor very demanding on the whole system.
Dailycameranews is still posting this as a 32mp exmor sensor.
Its 32mp!!!
Who?
Barry can you post the link.
Ive tried to post links from my phone before but they never work…sorry..
Mayby someone that reads this can do it?
http://www.dailycameranews.com/2014/04/sony-a77ii-to-be-announced-on-may-1/
Their latest story on the A77II refers to a 24MP sensor.
I have no doubt their stories are simply regurgitated from SAR.
http://www.dailycameranews.com/2014/03/sony-a79-rumored-specs/
There is still hope, and honestly I wouldn’t mind the 32mp. I hope your right barry.
Did you note their source (very end)? It is SAR and this very post!!
Their source was this thread: http://www.sonyalpharumors.com/sr5-a77ii-announcement-in-may/
Barry, just something for you to think about. My friend works as an Insurance agent in Wells Fargo. There is nothing special about her job, she is just like any other insurance agent, who manages customer’s insurance policies, opens new accounts, etc. Her official position is Account Executive.
Now, knowing this, how sure are you that you really spoke with a high ranking executive? 🙂
I’d say that you spoke with a customer service rep, whole official designation within Sony is Sales Executive or something like that.
Please let it have similar shutter lag with flash as Nikon or Canon enthusiast models to shed my lingering doubts about Sony.
The flash system is hopeless. I’m sorry. The shutter lag thing? That will be ok.
Wow…so much division in the SAR community it’s unreal. As a Sony shooter that’s heavily invested in a-mount, I also own e-mount gear and see the need for both systems. I currently own an a99, a77, Nex5, a few cybershots, and a Sony digital videocamera. When I’m out shooting, I simply grab the right tool for the job. For the professional shoots or low-light stuff, I grab my a99 and the bag full of fast zooms / primes. If I’m out shooting sports events in good lighting or need the extra crop reach, I grab the a77. If I’m just out and about I’ll take along the Nex5 if I don’t want to be bothered carrying around 50lbs. of gear. If I plan on video, nothing beats a dedicated video cam, so that goes with me.
There’s no such thing as a single perfect camera for every need. Do I love the quality and compactness of the Nex? Sure….but it’s main size / weight advantage goes away immediately when you have to strap on an adapter and put some real glass on it. Those compact body cameras strapped onto the back of a 10lb. lens is extremely unwieldy to say the least. The only options available to us original adopters were the kit lenses until our camera purchase was 3 generations old. It’s nice and compact, takes killer photos, but it’s not the answer to all my photo needs. If I have more professional needs, I grab the more professional camera.
The a99 with my 70-200 2.8G is an absolute BEAST…there’s nothing it won’t shoot well with a little planning, but by the end of the day you’ll feel like you’ve been toting around a Volkswagon around your neck for 12 hours. If I could get the performance, handling, features, etc. from this combo in anything smaller I would jump on it in a heartbeat…but that product is not on the market now, nor will it be in the foreseeable future. You can’t really defeat physics so you’re not going to get fast high quality zooms in a size / weight that would be a pleasure to use on the current iteration of E / FE cameras.
I hope Sony can devote the resources to make both…err…all three mounts successful, as they all have their places in the market. You truly have to have your head buried up your buttcrack chin deep if you don’t realize this.
My hope is making 2 mounts 4 system successful, I like the campact and quality of apsc E mount, and I like the control of A mount， and also the high quality and cheap lens ( compare the E mount). The price and quality of apsc A mount stuff is quite good for me
24 Megapixel sounds good to me. Now it has to be only mirrorless (No SLT) to become the perfect camera … At least for me.
Among the many rumours, counter-rumours, posts and
counter-posts about this camera there have been frequent suggestions of a possible
new ‘mirror flip-up’ mode. Unfortunately, as usual, we know nothing for certain
but such a feature would surely unite the ‘pro’ and ‘anti’ SLT camps, and, more
importantly, give Sony a substantial
opportunity for sales growth!
DO IT!
+1
A mirror flip-up mode would make me think of upgrading my A65 now, rather than with a next gen camera in 2015
Yesterday was April 1
Mayby a trusted source fooled admin?
Or mayby there are more than one new cameras comming and the confussing names have one again confused the sources?
Im not ready to give up hoping for 32mp yet.
My source had said 3 new A mount cameras
32mp C
24mp ff
36mp ff
Considerring how confussing Sony names now are it would not surprise me to see the specs mixed up again.
We all know your source was some guy who pranked you by posing as a Sony executive. None of what he told you is true. Get over it.
+1
I already gave example of an Account Executive in a post below. That gives a clear picture of the kind of executive Barry’s source was.
I have the feeling your source told you exactly what you wanted to hear. Maybe you were persistant, I don’t know. But I find it hard to believe the other odd rumor you happen to pick up corresponds so well with your perticular dreams and hopes regarding the Sony system for no reason at all.
Prior to this new info..2012-2013…I was predicting the following
2014 would see no major sensor improvements..only minor ones..24 and 36mp ff and 24mp C
2015 new stackedcsensor tech..lots of improvements.
2014 new camera configurations would be produced and prices would drop as bayer becomes obsolete and sony tries new camera styles to see what sells.
2015..new stacked sensors..higher prices ..new inovations.
After my long talk with Sony I posted the specific info I was given..the part that really differed from what I was then predicting was the 32mp C sensor that I was not expecting sony to produce..why spend money on new obsolete bayer sensors.
So this is the main part of my prediction that I changed because of that info. Everything else is fairly consistent with my old predictions.
You’re either really smart, or lucky.
I’m going with the latter.
What we need:
50MP
Beefier interchangable grip
20FPS
RAW only, no JPEG- that’s for wimps
5in swivel screen
Clean ISO up to 24000- no NR, that’s for wimps too
18EV dynamic range
Touch screen including the top deck
Shoots lazers
And a cheesburger with a coke pls
No one in the world “needs” 20fps. Nobody.
I know your message was a joke, but I hear this sort of thing from people.
If anyone remembers this better than me please correct me.
I think just prior to the release of the a99 or a7r sar said that sony had built and tested 3 new sensors of 24, 32, and 36mp
It also said the 32mp sensor had the best performance of the three
Does anyone remember that posting?
I remember. I also thought there was going to be 2 new ff a-mounts and one aps-c. One full frame was going to be 32 or 36 while the other was going to be geared more for action which was going to be the 24mp. I was excited for the 36mp ff version since I have a 1dx for action and low light events. I have serious doubts Sony will build a camera in the foreseeable future that will match the prowess of the 1dx. Canon’s flash system is also light years ahead of Sony. I am a bit bummed that the Year of the A-Mount is slowly fizzing away. Or maybe Sony is just keeping tight lipped and the rumors are not spilling out as in the past. I am keeping my fingers crossed.
Hurry up Sony – my A77 really, really needs replacing – like tomorrow. It kept camera erroring today and I can’t send it off for repair, I’ve got 6 shoots lined up in the next 10 days. I’m hoping it will last that long, but beyond that I need to say a prayer to whatever god looks after camera shutters every day – mine has clocked about 170,000 actuations now.
I did look at the A6000 – but by the time I add an LA-EA2 we’re talking about the same price (probably) as an A77II
24mp, 36mp or 50mp -i dont care, as long as I can import my jpegs and edit them in my phone with VSCO cam. By the way, what does “raw” mean?
I’m going to go out on a limb here and assume that you’re not being sarcastic with “RAW” comment…
A high level explanation is – RAW is an unprocessed data from sensor. Full dynamic range and without JPEG compression artifacts. Much more can be done in professional image processing software, such as better noise reduction, fixing exposure issues, lens distortion compensation, etc…
Mode joke “ON”, yes because here many supposedly “new things” are funny! Like with April fools, we know this web site is not at all serious, LOL… So I think this so called “announcement” should be still postponed until at least September (yes fake rumor, because launching a flagship can’t be done long time earlier a big event like Photokina, that make no sense). Or when Sony should be ready really! So sooner or later SAR should give some “true” rumors through circumstances (but no evidence at all): except if Sony is changing classification? (Make rumours is a dangerous game) Thereafter anybody can imagine to match his imagination around what should be a dream camera and build a supposed “new rumor” on that. Like last time when the E-mount becomes a universal hybrid mount camera (it was with the Nex and SAR can survive, lol), or next time with a new body which accept directly A-mount through proprietary embedded E-mount with all fonctionalities enabled, with IBIS or whatsoever? Same thing for ALL other mounts in the market, who knows? Unless other “imagined rumor” could appear by personnal will such as … But shh… this should be quoted “SAR3”, no more! LOL
Move the power on switch back over to the left side of the camera where it belongs- that is all that is needed and nothing else.
The power switch is comfortably located where it belongs, right next to the shutter.
Absolutely. I hate the new location around shutter button. Keep turning camera off by accident when flipping to vertical and the button indent isn’t nearly as reactive as older a900/700.
Can’t say I’ve ever had that problem before. What really annoyed me was accidentally hitting the movie button and the useless ? button. Fair enough on something entry level but it’s a bit pointless on the a77…
Power switch around the button is far better for me.
Losing the SSS switch is a pain, the ? is useless.
Why they dropped the metering pattern switch is a mystery, selecting spot, center-weighted and multi-segment metering was easy on the A700. The C button is sorely missed, there should be more C buttons not none, the ability to customise the A77 buttons is useless to me as they are all useful functions!
A patent drawing from july 2013 on photographybay does indeed show a mirrorless 32mp C size replacement for the a77.
Thanx God it will be 24 Mpix
Not looking good for the ‘I buy Barry a camera’ challenge. ♥
True but 1..I am not ready to give up hoping till I have too
2..my prints would still look good on your wall even if you dont buy me a camera.
Hope it allows for magnified playback at the focus point rather than always going to center. We enjoyed this on a900/700. Now a77 and a7R make me scroll every time I want to see my off center focus playback. Editing in the field is more cumbersome with these newest Sony’s.
FYI… My Phottix Odin works fine in HSS on a77/900/700.
BUT IT DOES NOT WORK HSS WITH a7R + the ridiculous adapter required to mount iISO transmitter/flash.
Another feature lost in the name of progress.
Fair enough on the focus point playback… But not sure why you are bemoaning the move to an industry standard hot shoe?? Completely logical. As it allows Sony to join the rest of the worlds flash systems… Should have happened on the original A77.
If only all of my manual flashes and triggers would actually fit into their stupid, not…quite…standard Sony BS ISO hotshoe
The new hotshoe is not “standard”, some ISO flash triggers don’t fit it! Typical Sony idiots.
Gav, we had two smart TTL radio slaves with HSS that worked perfectly on iISO shoe. Dozens of third party flashes with native fit since 1995. Alpha users lacked nothing. Now we don’t have any native solutions.
I’m glad you like dumb radio slaves that were already available for years. Sony killed the flash system. If you’re not a strobist, then you’ll never know all that was lost when Sony changed the shoe. It’s awful now.
Wow dozens of flashes from 1995 work with the old shoe awesome…I have had no problems with the (yes industry standard) hot shoe. But then again I keep away from on camera flashes like the plague…Is Strobist even a word??…That’s getting pretty close to photographers who call themselves “Sculptors of light”…
http://www.strobist.blogspot.com/
What’s so “standard” about a hot shoe with multiple micro pins on the front? It doesn’t accept many ISO standard radio slaves and PC adapters without dremmel drilling the front off. You haven’t been keeping up on the Sony flash foibles. Just get on the Sony forums and search for the new hot shoe.
Have you really not heard of all the Sony flash problems? We’ve only addressed a few here. As I said before, I’m glad you’re happy with your dumb slave. Real progress there. That’s the kind of innovation I’ve come to expect from Sony… devolution disguised as progress.
I’m not talking about “on camera flash”. My adapters (Nikon and Wein) and slaves (Phottix Odin) either don’t fit snugly or require a fragile adapter to get a CRIPPLED connection.
And yes, I have half a dozen old flashes from Sunpak that have native Minolta iISO shoe. There are dozens of current models available too. There always have been. You can even get a few cheap and CURRENT chinese radio slaves that are the old native iISO foot. They’re about $30 for a full kit. You were never missing anything friend.
That new Sony adapter requires me to also keep track of the caps for it, and also the camera shoe cap. Don’t think for a second that those multiple micro pins will stand up to a single speck of dust. Now I have two extra caps in my life. The Mino shoe never required such pampering.
But where are the smart flashes and slaves for the new Sony MIS? It’s been two years now… Where are they?
And that’s just the connection issues. How about performance problems like F60 overheating and the Gary Friedman discovery of the flash delay shown here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eHrBcT51oE8
Gav… my name is my web site. I’m a strobist. Can you show me your strobist work so I have a perspective of your experience… and how you can so easily wave away the issues that your fellow strobists are asking for? You’ve got what you want. Please don’t negate the possibility of me suggesting what I want from the camera mount I’ve been using for over two decades.
Sure knock yourself out…http://portfoliofwnzigb.4ormat.com/gallery
Your work is nice Gav. Looks like you have a little location strobist experience too. Does your kit allow for remote control from camera position? Does it allow HSS with radio slave?
I’m running up to eight 5600HS heads with full HSS and remote from camera. TTL if I wanted it, though I never do. Sony just killed that for me. I wouldn’t want Sony to kill your kit.
Do none of the Sony flash problems listed above make any difference to you? And if not, does it not concern you that it makes a differences for some of your contemporaries.
Go ahead man… it’s ok. Just claim one problem you’re having with Sony kit and I promise not to wave it away as a non issue. I’ll support your concerns even if they don’t affect me.
This isn’t a pissing contest. It’s a forum where users of Sony kit can express their concerns. Some who have used Mino/Sony for decades to pay their bills. I’m pleased if you don’t suffer the same betrayal that I do.
Did you ever consider moving away from multiple flashes, and towards something like the Elinchrom Quadra Ranger?
Sure. But I don’t use multiple flash for power. I use it for lighting sets. Tomorrow’s shoot has two Dynalite 1000’s with four heads… Just like yesterdays and the day before. Saturday’s shoot will be video lights mixed with SoMino F56/5600s. Sunday’s shoot will be multiple SoMino F56/5600swith HSS outdoor. Last week I used the Norman 200C for a blast.
I use lots of flash kit. I hate the way current Sony implements strobe. It’s a slap in the face to those who invested heavily in the brand.
The least I should expect is the new a7R to allow me to continue with HSS as before… albeit with a fragile $25 adapter.
Let’s also be clear that no one ever had trouble firing their Pro Photos or Elinchroms with the old Mino hot shoe. It didn’t stop anyone from doing anything except the smart PW game… and that was answered by Phottix Odin and Pixel King.
Sony didn’t create the MIS so togs could purchase studio strobes. They did it because it’s proprietary (like all Sony), and everyone who wants smart flash is forced into their con. The use of studio strobes is a meaningless feature that was already there in the first place. I’ve been doing it for years with the old Mino shoe.
The Sony flash system is literally less sophisticated than the Minolta flash system of twenty years ago. Where the hell are they leading us?
I really haven’t had an issue. I don’t use HSS as I find I don’t need it for what I do. I also as mentioned don’t use on-camera flashes so…Profoto and elinchrom certain is easy enough to control flashes from the sync
The shot of the the screamer was shot at 4fps not a single non fire/delay on the A7 hot shoe. Both Pocket Wizards, Profoto & Elinchrom slaves work seamless.
The way I see it is that industry standard hot shoes are inevitable. There maybe a delay in manufactures producing HSS devices specifically for the new cameras but it will happen as every Sony from here on in will have it. The price of industry integration me thinks…
A88
-24mp full frame sensor
-clean ISO up to 6400
-super duper lightweight! all plastic built all the way up to the lens mount like the a58
-90% or more AF frame coverage like a6000
-more battery power pls! 2700mAh or more
-allow us to use continuous AF or dual AF at f2.8 instead of limiting it to f3.5
reason why im asking these feature is because of a99 only covers half of the frame so it is hard to use as a video camera in full AF mode because the focus keeps on changing when panning around. the small frame coverage only track the subject in the middle of the frame and then it will switch focus.
If you can provide us with a super duper lightweight FF camera then Sony will gain the biggest reputation for glidecam users because with lightweight camera + electronic steadyshot + full time video AF features combination? no other camera in this world can ever come close to such ease of use!
putting a99 on a glidecam in full AF mode is such a joy to use! Canon 5DmarkIII can’t even do what the a99 can do for video w/o putting the aperture up to f8 and raising up to ISO6400.
BATTERY BATTERY BATTERY! in order to solve this issue pls make it a 1.4m dot OLED EVF so it wont drain so much power. im not an engineer so I dont know how else can u make camera battery longer besides giving it more mAh? I know I can pack around 10 batteries in every event but running out of juice in the middle of shoot and 2mins to remove the camera from the gimbal’s mount and readjusting it again sucks! MORE BATTERY POWER PLS SONY!
Do you not have a VG holding two batteries? The battery door is in a different position too.
Yes I do when shooting stills but the point I’m making is the VG adds up weight along with the LED light on top of the camera when shooting video on a stabilizer hence im asking for a lightweight camera.
Everything except the plastic, need magnesium alloy body for all the f2.8 zooms especially 70-200mm.
If the a58 can hold a 70-200mm very well then why cant it be a hard plastic body? for weather sealed camera w/ magnesum alloy body then go for a 32mp a99II. The biggest thing in videography rightnow is the floating shot with wide angle lens and if Sony wants to gain reputation w/ videographers then they should take advantage of their camera technology that they can only provide. The electronic steady shot and dual autofocus the a99 provide is such a game changer and you can only get this type of combination from using Sony SLTs.
I want an updated for main A-mount lens with SSM/ SAMII and weather sealing
APS-C and FF as well
Is it just me of does the focus on the A6000 seem very good in good lighting but in low lighting is seems to be slower than the current A77?
I only got the A6000 yesterday so rather new to it but like the camera at first (still rather annoyed about no GPS support in the NEX/Axxxx range of camera’s… Please Sony install GPS and have it turned OFF by default if the main concern is battery drain)…
I’ll spend more time with the A6000 but IF my initial thoughts are correct in slow AF speed in low light I hope the A77II fixes this issue else I would prefer faster AF than the same sensor.
I would wager it would cost a little to add GPS as well. Thats one module that can be cut to reduce price. Since a GPS adds little to improve photography I wager Sony removed it to save costs.
If they ever do come up with a higher end model I am sure they will include it. 🙂
Most cameras slow down in low light and the A6000 is no exception. I remember using a Canon 5D MK 3 in a place where I had to use ISO 12800 with f1.8 to get 1/50 shutter speeds. The AF did lock but I got quite a few OOF shots. So if a 5D MK 3 can struggle I can’t imagine the A6000 doing much better.
I understand the price argument as well but I think that one can be ruled out by many cameras above $250 mark are comming with GPS included now days… so for a camera that is $1000 I’m sure the GPS part of it would not be a significant component… (Sony them-self includes GPS in many of their competitively lower end Cybershot camera’s)… I’m sure the cost of the GPS chip would cost a very small dollar amount for Sony…
The most logical reasion I’ve heard in the past was to do with Battery life in the NEX range but hence my comment, ship GPS as disabled by default…
The NEX in my eyes is a fantastic ‘travel’ camera and when would you benefit most from GPS functions for me personally would be during travel…
To me it seems like the perfect camera to benefit from GPS…
I’m thinking of pulling my old GPS tracking out of the cupboard but it was always allot of work ‘syncing’ up and post processing rubbish… the A77 is a dream compared…. I’m thinking of actually leaving the A6000 at home on my next trip and taking the old A77 with me which is a pain at times due to size/weight but for GPS tracking I might just leave the A6000 at home.
Just my reasoning and deails for the comments above…
Also with focus, I understand most camera’s slow down in low light but the comparison I was making was that the latest and greatest A6000 which has been advertised to feature this ground breaking faster than ever before focus system seems SLOWER than my A77 in low light…
Just a little disappointed with the speed to what I expected I guess and putting it out there for Sony that I HOPE they do not cripple the A77II with a similar slow focus speed and rather importune on the current A77 low light focus speed.