These are the google translated Specifications of the Panasonic DMC-GM1 (via Digicameinfo)
– Dial three of the top surface is machined aluminum
– The size is (width) 98.5mm x 54.9mm x (height) (D) 30.4mm
– The sensor 16MP digital LiveMOS.
– High sensitivity is improved by 10% compared to the GX1. S / N ratio of 25% improvement
– New two-dimensional noise reduction. New multi-process NR
– AF is 240fps of the lens drive. -4EV Support for low-light
– Electronic Level
– Focus peaking
– Wi-Fi built-in. In conjunction with the smart phone, can be remote shooting and transfer
– LCD monitor is 3 inches 1.04 million dot, touch panel
– Creative Control, scene guide, interval shooting, anime feature lapse
– 12-32mm F3.5-5.6 OIS kit lens (eight seven groups, 3 aspherical, ED1 piece, two-stage retractable)
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99 Responses
Mega OIS sucks compared to Power OIS. What about video.
Yes MEGA OIS is quite a poor stabilization system by today’s standards. But Panasonic seems to be very attached to its old tech. They kept using the bad old 12MP sensor long after they had a better one on the GH2. Quite silly not to use POWER OIS when they have it for years and they use it in compact cameras (not even the highest end ones only).
And about the size, as expected, it was a dirty lie that with lens it would be like the RX100. Impossible is impossible. No matter what marketing guys want to make us believe.
Mega IOS is poor? -LIES.
Old tech, 12mp sensors? -How long was Olympus milking the 12mp sensor again before they started messing with Olympus and now they’re milking the 16mp sensor from Sony?
You talk about lies, but Um, THIS CAMERA “IS” THE SMALLEST MICRO FOUR THIRDS CAMERA OUT.
So is THAT a lie, or will you try to spin that as well??
I like this camera…A LOT! But Mega OIS is garbage compared to Power OIS. Why in the world would Panasonic put this old technology in a lens? They put Power OIS in that pancake zoom so surely it could fit in this one. Very disappointing. Having said that, I still love this camera and want one. Just hoping it can do 60p video and has at least a mic input (though a mic and headphone input would be nice).
Why should I be anti-Panasonic? My camera is a Panasonic LX3, with MEGA OIS. It’s a great camera (in it’s class and age, of course).
But MEGA OIS is old technology, no matter if you like or dislike Panasonic as a brand. That’s why Panasonic developed POWER OIS several years ago. And that’s why they (Panasonic) said back then that it was so much better than MEGA OIS.
The 12 MP sensor was old tech still used in many cameras after the GH2. Yes, Olympus did the same, but they had no choice. Panasonic did have a choice.
And the size is just what it is. No bigger, no smaller. It is just there for all of us to see. And certainly, with lens, it’s not like the LF1 or RX100. Simply because that would be impossible with a m4/3 mount. But this is nothing against Panasonic, it’s just against those rumors that are just silly and only create noise.
By the way, I like the camera. For what it is.
How it is a lie when all there is so far is only rumors? There are no officiall press releases yet or anything, thus, there is no lie yet.
Perhaps some of you don’t understand that at this size, you can’t use a classification of Mega OIS?
How can we change exposure or shutter speed? no dial for that?
Slow lens. Thicker dimensions. More expensive to own once paired with a similar aperture lens.
WORSE OF ALL: STILL FAR TOO BIGGER & MORE EXPENSIVE than RX100.
Compromises all over the place makes this JUNK a crappy M43 to own!
Its supposed small footprint becomes irrelevant once paired with a decent prime lens!
WHAT A JOKE!
Sorry, but I do not share your sense of humor, since this camera is no joke to me 🙂
being fair, the RX100 is not that fast either…and sony missed the mark with the RX10..they should make a 24-70mm 1.8..then we are talking 🙂
get a job you moron…
This thing will just smoke the Sony with a kit of 20mm and 45mm lenses… AF and IQ will be in another league, in fact this camera is an existential threat to high-end APS-C compacts which the Sony can’t even touch.
The kit lens is equal in range and aperture to the Nex 16-50mm, while it should easily beat it in IQ and convenience (not being a crappy PZ).
A small camera like this will wiggle ALL OVER THE PLACE without IBIS.
Just cut back on the martinis and the hand quakes disappear. 😉
Why af/afs/mf dial with Fn1 button inside? only touchscreen on the back without buttons according Function Fn1 button at the top? no back pick yet?
Your not saying anything about the new sony just announced?
its a good idea- were getting enought FF spam without mention it anyway 😉
so thanks admin, good trick 😉
Geez, the 12 year old trolls are out in force this morning. OIS works just fine, in spite of what your Oly drug dealer tells you. The RX100 may be smaller, but it also has a dinky, noisy sensor. And it’s pretty hard to mount a fast prime lens to the Sony, I’d bet.
n2x, I’m sure it has a touch screen. And since it’s a Panasonic, it probably has the dual-mode rear thumb wheel. But I am disappointed they wasted top plate space for the AF switch, which 90% of the users will probably never change.
Hmmm.. I did use that MF AF-s/c switch on the LX3. Long time ago, but I can see this as a kind of LX-evolution camera. But indeed, to put it on the top is too much credit.
Power OIS is far superior to Mega OIS. Both are Panasonic versions of OIS. I thought all new lenses were going to have Power OIS. For some reason they decided to take a step back with this lens and go with the older Mega OIS. It’s not trolling to point out Mega OIS sucks compared to Power OIS- Panasonic says as much on their website.
I beg to differ here. I find Mega OIS extremely usable, while Power OIS didn’t convince me at all. Panasonic’s 45-150 zoom has Mega OIS, and allows for sharp pictures down to 1/8s at 150mm without a problam as far as I’m concerned (provided the subject remains still, that goes without saying). The same lens is also quite resilient to shutter shock, which some Power OIS lenses aren’t (take the 14-42PZ or 45-175 as examples). Power OIS may be marketed as the “newer and better” thing, but sometimes the “older” recipes remain the better ones, and to me Panasonic’s OIS options are a prime example of this…
With the shutter shock from 14-42x/45-175mm vibration problem on 12-35mm before the update I think that’s why they revert to the old and reliable Mega OIS, at least it just works without introducing new problems.
video specs?
Limited dials & buttons. Camera options/features hidden in menus. Definitely non-user friendly. No hotshoe.
At least $600 once it hit retail WITH A GOD-AWFUL SLOW lens kit. Not a pocket camera, but a jacket pocket camera. AT BEST.
This is a target audience for IDIOTS who think it’s portable and affordable.
please die.. will ya?
When you start telling people to die because they don’t care for a camera made by a brand you’re in love with, you might have some mental health issues.
no, he was telling you: if you don’t like it, don’t buy it. because if you don’t like it, then it’s not for you!
No hotshoe: irrelevant for targeted users (i laughed! like a 4 wheel drive on a smart)
Limited butons: irrelevant/you don’t know.
Functions hidden in menus: irrelevant/you don’t know.
i get the design, small and lightweight. did i mention small?
you didn’t see the back yet, nor did you know anything about the menu. so, troll, go home.
I like this camera. Since the lens mount extends some millimeters from the body anyway, I would have preferred that they made a molded grip on the front as well. That would not have contributed to any extra overall thickness, since the lens mount sticks out a bit anyway.
Good to finally have a compact wide angle lens available! That has been long awaited. The Olympus 12-50mm is very long, and the f/2.8 zooms are huge. But this is finally a small 12mm capable lens.
Good points. I think this lens may even suit the GX7 nicely. People are over-obsessed with fast lenses. I’d be really happy with this lens if it excelled in every other aspect of IQ, despite being slow.
true. for mFT lenses, we actually can buy fast primes for easy money.
but you are right. it came down to a gear war and consumption out of proportion…
on the other hand, i really like my nikon 1 with 1.8/18.5mm lens and have some f/1.3 lenses here. at night, these really shine.
will this camera fire fl-300r or fl-600r flashes on RC mode? is RC 43 standard or just olympus propietary tech?
The AF/MF dial is a pleasant surprise! It seems Panasonic does not mean for this to be a toy.
I think it’s a waste of a good dial, myself. It could have been a customizable wheel for exposure, shutter speed, etc, with a function button in the middle. That would have been much nicer for me.
It’s almost as pretty as my PL 1.
Seems they’ve been joined by a few Sony Defense Forces… Crazy! -But they have been teaming up lately.
But wow, this camera sure looks NICE. add the fact of swapping lenses just proves thay Panasonic GETS IT. Thus will play nice with my 20/25mm lenses.
Good job once again, Panasonic!
Please do not assume that these trolls are Oly fan boys. They haven’t mentioned anything about Oly. They seem to just be idiot trolls. When the trolls attack Oly products, I don’t assume they are Panny fanboys. PEace.
Very wise opinion, but idiots think in the opposite direction. 🙂
A dial for focus modes but not aperture or shutter speed? Hopefully, those are on the back… Please don’t let it be fully touch… My enthusiasm for this camera just dropped at bit, but still excited to see the full reveal and try this out
But stylish!
Do People realize that the picture on their monitor probably isn’t to scale. Zoom out on your browser till it actually measures about 100mm to see how small it is. This thing is tiny. Completely pocketable. You know why? because you can take the lens off and put it in another pocket. of course it isn’t going to have a hot shoe or viewfinder or loads of dials. But it looks like it has a flash. Looks like a perfect casual camera. It had better have full video functionality tho.
zhnaks
Can’t believe none of the three dials are used for exposure control.
There will probably be a click wheel on the back a la GF1.
This is my disappointment too. I figured there would be one like on the GX1 and LX7. I think you can see those from the top view though and I don’t see a hint of one here. Oh well, we’ll see what system they come up with for controlling things in A/S/M/P
I’m also disappointed about the dials being fixed-function, non-exposure-related things, unless it has gobs of magical controls on the back. It just shows there’s always a compromise (whether physical or market-related), as much as we want OMD-level functionality in the smallest possible thing.
LOL! This is finally the mockup Olympus presented very first on Photokina 2008 – and made now by Panasonic! 😀
It was the high time! Good job!
Great looking camera! How does it look in black? It’s a real shame you can’t mount the LVF2 on it. That would be amazing!
It’s so small you mount IT on a lens, not the other way around.
It’ll look real funny hanging off a Voigtländer 42.5mm or a 100-300mm. OR that honking beast Oly 40-150mm. 😉
Should I buy it (I am tempted but will wait) I will attach it to my 170 – 500 Sigma Zoom just for fun and post a picture of it…. 😉
no hotshoe? really?
Top and Front *exposed*. Now waiting for the Butt. 😛
I love camera porn. Who don’t?
looks interesting, exciting times for the real mirrorless players: Oly, Panny and Sony 🙂
just read mirrolessrumors, Fuji is on a mission too 🙂
Now THIS, is a true “step up” camera for point and shoot upgraders. Entry level ILC models have been touting this forever, but what makes this the ideal upgrade is that you really aren’t gaining any size, but are getting a massive sensor in comparison and able to swap out the lens. This is a very smart move on Panasonic’s part, and really, for the M43 ecosystem since it offers an excellent way to sort of “test the waters” of an ILC system without gaining much mass or size. If someone finds they like this camera and the idea of changing out lenses then they have the option of jumping into not one, but two brands of cameras and lenses.
I’m a Sony NEX shooter, but who knows, this may be my intro into the land of M43 too! I have always considered getting the RX100 to just carry around casually when even my diminutive NEX and a pancake lens is still too large. Even though it would no longer be portable if I were to swap lenses (although that panasonic 20mm prime would do nicely 😉 ) I love just having that option and flexibility, and not to menion, the sensor is even larger than the already generous size of the RX100’s.
Hmm…will this make me a convert?? Who knows…
Sure the APSC sensor in my camera is a tad larger, but it really is in kind of that awkward realm of size/performance. You can make the cameras tiny like M43 options, but the lenses will never be small enough to match unless you sacrifice optical quality like with a pancake lense. And if you need the shallow depth of field and light gathering ability of a larger sensor, a FF model gives that in a much more noticeable output. The DOF is a noticeable advantage for APSC models over M43, but with how good M43 sensors are these days, the high ISO capabilities (to me) are much less different between the two.
I know I ventured completely off topic here, but I guess I sort of just had an epiphany of sorts, and this is thanks to Sony’s new compact FF cameras. To me, if you want the best of both worlds, get a FF and M43 camera, but if you intend to keep just one camera and sort of want to walk the line of both with advantages of shallower DOF yet still having a telephoto bump, get the APSC. Having both a FF and APSC though, makes less sense to me.
Don’t worry about getting offtopic. It’s nice to read some real thoughts in between all the senseless trolling.
For me, the “step up” camera was the GF3. I would definitely have chosen a GM1-like cam, but not for that price. The simple fact is that people shooting with P&S cameras are not used to paying even 250 Euro for a new camera. Take the GM1 and couple it with all the cheap aspects of the GF series and you have a *real* winner for that market.
The GM1 as it stands is really aimed at enthusiasts more of a second body for enthusiasts.
I agree on your FF+m43 point, although I personally haven’t seen a reason to go FF yet. Image quality and the shallow DOF that I can get with fast primes like the 25/1.4 or 45/1.8 are totally enough for me. I actually think I would screw a lot more shots in low light on a FF due to wrong focus with a 1.4 or so (or would have to stop down+increase ISO). I could see an advantage for landscapes and having more crop potential, but then again, in the situations where I need that, I need portability even more ;).
That’s definitely a key factor for step up cameras, you’re right, is its price. Though in form, this would be the ideal intro to an ILC system, that price is likely to steer away would-be customers. And as for purchasing a FF camera to complement your M43 system, you prove it is completely out of particular needs people have. I almost feel there is this sort of pressure to upgrade to a FF body just to prove yourself as a “true” hobbyist or photographer. But if you really don’t need that shallow depth of field to the extent of a FF sensor, and the only low light capabilities you would ever need is up to 1600/3200 ISO, why spend the money? The EM1 looks to be exactly that camera to serve the needs of those that are looking for those top of the line FF body specs, but have little or no need for the actual FF sensor.
For my needs at the moment, my NEX serves me well since I’m an architecture student and it gives me the option of a deep depth of field when I need it, but offers the shallow depth of field when I want to get more creative. I do wish though, that the prime lenses for it could be smaller, and if I ever wanted any real telephoto option beyond 85mm then forget it, I might as well grab a compact DSLR like a D5100 just to balance the added weight and heft. So maybe in the future I could see myself having both a FF body like the newly announced Sony A7, and a M43 to serve my architectural and portability needs.
Looks nice enough, don’t understand all the negativity… at least until we get some hands on reports.
Is it something I want? No. I do like the minimalistic styling, but wonder about the ergonomics.
As for being overpriced, well, Panny tends to discount their cameras after not too long… only too expensive if you buy early.
I like what I’m reading so far but no IBIS? Video specs?
I would guess that, in order to get the body this thin, Panasonic had to minimize the assembly around the sensor. An IBIS mechanism as used in GX7 or in Olympus would probably add considerable thickness.
The kit lens has Panasonic’s very effective OIS, as do most of their longer lenses. If you mount fast primes without OIS, the large sensor means that you will be typically be able to shoot at suitably fast shutter speeds and still have low noise at medium-to-high ISO.
1) This camera is tiny. 2) Stabilization is great but not the end-all. 3) People have been shooting without built-in stabilization, and without high ISO/ASA capability, for a 150+ years.
I think video specs are similar to GX7?
Very nice camera, cute small and competent. An interesting new member of the m4/3 familly!
The only problem I see with this camera : it’s too small for other m4/3 zooms.
It’s really a camera to use with the new 12-35 or small pancakes/prime lenses.
This will be a very nice street photography camera! I see them selling a lot of these, just for that reason alone!
Please learn to use the input fields correctly. Text goes here, not in the name field. Too cool for school I guess.
I wonder if they are going to try the silver only version in the states again. Don’t pull an Oly, Panasonic, at least have the intelligence to learn from you past mistakes, because not everyone over here is an Oly idiot.
Wow, I like it alot, very classy looking.
Hmm, flash exposure compensation? Manual flash power settings? I don’t care about wifi-wizbang features or “stylish” (I think it’s ugly as hell) features until the basic photographic features are set.
I might pick on up on Groupon in 6 months for $200.
@,Justin
Groupon is unlikely to be around in 6 months time.
Thank you SO much! Your opinion is SO valuable to the rest of us!
And your “6 months for $200” prediction – I was SO glad you let us all in on that.
Thank you, thank you, thank you.
I really like the look of this camera. However, there is one concern I have. There doesn’t seem to be any dials to control aperture and shutter speed. I hope that’s not the case. If it’s all done purely through the touch screen, this becomes nothing more than a bulky point & shoot in my mind.
Then you’ll be able to adjust exposure and aperture.
Yeah, I hope so. If it does have that, I view this as a nice backup camera. Or, something you can throw in your pocket for a birthday party or something, when you don’t want your “larger” m43 gear… 😉
Nice look, BUT:
1) no tilt screen;
2) no accessories port (external EVF, mic, flash) – to preserve compactness they could provide at least a proprietary one like on Sony NEX…
These two restrictions neither make it a swift “secrete” camera ( point 1) ), nor a serious working instrument (point 2) ).
Certainly they didn’t not want to compete with GX7, I hate this “castration” policy…
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At this size, why would you need a tilt screen???
I Agree on the hotshoe, but again, at this size, why would you need it? At this size, it would look akward having a flash or mic on it! -you’re better off getting a larger camera to handle those things.
You seem to be getting away from the fact that this is a compact, ICLC.
I find it amusing how people want to throw everything on this camera, when all of that would take away the size.
WHY:
1) I buy/need a camera for the freedom of composition – not for the shooting from the eye level only. Tilt/articulated screen allows for the freedom of composition. You simply cannot do a right framing e.g. shooting from the hands or from the stomach. I
2) As I wrote, an accessories port does not mean the hot shoe: everything can be very compact. If you need need functions add EVF, flash, mic via the port, if you need compactness just undress it…
COMPACTNESS:
Compactness and tilt screen/accessories port do not need to be in contradiction: just look at RX100 II: certainly in term of ergonomics these two rivals are in the different leagues…
Look at the closest rival of GM1:
http://www.dpreview.com/products/Sony/compacts/sony_dscrx100m2?utm_campaign=internal-link&utm_source=top-cameras-widget-clicks&utm_medium=text&ref=top-cameras-widget-clicks
Do you think there is any a principal contradiction between the compactness and having the tilt screen ?
So someone actually preferred the propriety BS from Sony?? haha.
Anyway, this camera obviously isn’t for you. There’s the E-PL2. The good thing about MFT is we have lots of choices. But with choices comes compromises. You HAVE to understand that.
is what I care about. The camera is nice & small, but not appealing to me.
But that little lens is what I’ll buy – if it really has such a good image quality as admin says 🙂
I will buy it to pair it with a Panasonic G6, sorry Olympus fan(boy)s. It doesn’t mean that I am not disappointed. Put a viewfinder, fix some other things and you could have a winner, even if it cost 800. I don’t care about prices so much, I just hate compromises. And don’t give me the “cannibalizing” crap. Sony brought an expensive RX100 to the compact market and it was an instant success because frankly it was better than the competition. I wish Panasonic improves in the future. You have good products, people buy them, you get an even better brand name.
Just a doubt: GX7 sensor or GX1 “improved” sensor? That makes a big difference IMHO
Maybe a GX7 sensor since the supposed % improvements are the same (if I’m not mistaken…)
Does the 12-32 has a focus ring?? Looks like a zoom ring and that’s it…
I like it, but honestly… Panasonic X-m1 😀
It looks pretty good, and really delivers on the m4/3 concept of small and light performance. A few small niggles- if there was a hotshoe, and a customizable dial instead of the af/mf dial, I’d be waiting with my credit card. As is, I’ll wait for the price to drop.
Hmm.. the lens has only one ring? So is this a zoom ring or a focus ring? And if it’s the former, is there no manual focus?
This GM1 looks very Leica in shape and classy with that leather grained finish. Question – Already the FT5 rumor of a tilt screen look very suspect given the picture and shallow depth of camera? Of greater concern the above sensor spec seems to suggest it may be an improved GX1 sensor not that from the GX7?? We still haven’t seen any pictures of the back so may be some surprises and I expect to see a 16:9 size screen not 3:2 as slightly different resolution from 3″ lcd ON THE LF1.
If you look at the Oct 8th 43rumors pictures showing a patent for a new MFT camera you will see many of the similarities with this GM1 just add the EVF and hotshoe in the middle and you have an equally small GM2!
I have to say I wonder how many people have use for a 5.6/64mm. too long for a normal lens and not long enough for small tele
but for the geek they can always brag about the new record high ( and mostly useless) shutter speed
Harold
I’m afraid that’s a wishful thinking 🙁 … though I’d be glad to be wrong…
First off it is a zoom lens so you can have any length of normal lens you desire up to 64mm. If it has the GX7 sensor then even ISO 6400 is good so the slower lens is no problem. Also with the high resolution of that sensor and a very good intelligent zoom likely in the GM1 would will be able to get good crops into the portrait range of 84mm.
I think I’d prefer the mount to not extend that much. It moves the weight of the lens away from the body and sort of defeats the advantage of a slimmer body. The 12-32 looks really slim its off state, but the mount makes it look longer and thus not as compact as it might seem.
When the first rumors said that the GM1 will be slimmer than previous models, I actually thought Panasonic would finally work on getting the mount deeper into the body. Especially the reports stating that it might have no or only a smaller mechanical shutter seemed to imply this.
In previous years, the more compact MFT bodies became slimmer, but the lens mount just kept extending more from the the front surface of the body. I thought they’d work on that issue now by actually making more room inside the body.
Though maybe there’s just no more room for getting the mount and sensor circuit any closer to the back of the camera? OLEDs are a little thinner than LCDs, but not very much, I believe.
2 safaridon: my comment about wishful thinking was addressed to your GM2, sorry
I would have preferred an EVF over a flash. If that means a smaller screen, so be it – I’d only be using it for settings.
But otherwise, I’m impressed with what Panny have done here. The difference between this and a GH3 size-wise couldn’t be more obvious – it’s great that MFT offers users such a variety of bodies for a lens system.
* BAD SIMILE ALERT *
Other formats are like cats – the bodies all look very slightly different, but mostly the same. MFT is like dogs – huge variety in size and shape.
Looks like a decent camera. It would be good at about 400 euro. This is the market for M43. Go Pan and Oly.
Its probably the sensor of the GF6.
Thinking about the lens… 9.5-25mm with the wide angle converter sounds good 🙂
No zoom rocker and the new lens prophesy the end of life for 14-42X. Pity, 42 and 32 is quite a difference. Also, from the top look it doesn’t seem there’s an exposure dial on the back. A pity – quality build and sensible controls would shut up my whining about no GX1 successor. As is, too expensive for p&s, not appealing for serious enthusiasts.
What I want to know now is about the shutter, given these specs 🙂
No hotshoe is a deal breaker for me. C’est la vie.
Is that an EVF below the mode dial? (in the picture taken from above the camera). I guess we just have to wait until tomorrow to find out.
My only concern is about the sensor technology, the rumors didn’t tell us if it is the same of the GX7 o just the old sensor from GX1 and G6:
“- The sensor 16MP digital LiveMOS.
– High sensitivity is improved by 10% compared to the GX1. S / N ratio of 25% improvement”
For me if the sensor inside the GM1 was the same of the GX7 they’ve stated loud and clear like this:
– same 16MP sensor of the acclaimed GX7
Hope I’m wrong…