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I keep getting info about the shutter which is said to be new. But I still don’t know what the improvement is. We wills ee it tomorrow 🙂
In the meantime these are the size info of the GM1 (and on top you can see a real size comparison image). I got the info in inches and I converted them in millimeter.
Width: 3,87 inch or 98.5mm
Height: 2,16 inch or 54.9mm
Thickness: 1,18 inch or 30.4mm
Weight: 173g
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Smaller and lighter than the D-LUX/LX series (without lens I’m guessing)… Very excited by this pocketable powerhouse! Go Panasonic! Both Oly & Pana seem to be on fire at the moment. Good times for m43.
OMG!!! full frame Sony CCS now the heat is on check it out http://www.ephotozine.com/article/sony-a7-full-frame-mirrorless-camera-23161
OMG!!! What a compact body and huge adapter/lens combo. Do I need tripod to use it with any standard lens?
Just when we thought the dust was settling Sony bring out this Bad Boy think we will need hard hats to shoot it and steel boots its almost military spec
The Sony is exciting…but it’s build quality is “medium”…weather sealing is modest. M1 and premium DSLR’s have it beat!
Holy hyperbole batman- so do you work for Sony, or do you work for ephotozine? 😛
wow very cool, for a 24×36 body, its not heavy, just curious about the lenses.
Lens E mount
so the E-mount was designed with future 24×36 in mind?
Yes it was, and it didn’t take many days for people to figure that out when the first Sony Nex was announced.
IT’s FF E-mount lenses, other APS-C E mount lenses works in crop mode.
Yes, and no. They probably had it designed, but not yet made. The lenses are still made for APS-C, but a7/a7r can be cropped to be able to use it.
AF lenses…in traditional Sony fashion…not much…but they do seem to be planning a descent effort…my feeling is wait two years…see what lenses are available and buy in with the next body offering…there may be more of a “system” by then for AF lenses.
It’s so big… em-1 + 12/2 is smaller.
NEXT
That’s cute, but the lens/adapter combo is larger than the freaking body. FF cameras will be sadled with enormous lenses no matter what, making the A7 nowhere near the game changer people say it is. Just look at the RX1, sure the camera is tiny but that lens is BIG for a ‘compact’, I don’t want to see how a portrait lens or a fast zoom look on the A7.
Can any body give me a link to the very limited reviews on the EM1 there dose not seem to be many (A hand full) on YouTube iv seen the brilliant Robin Wong review but Keen to see peoples personal reviews thanks Brent
http://www.stevehuffphoto.com/2013/10/12/the-olympus-om-d-e-m1-full-review-the-most-versatile-mirrorless-camera-ever/
Steve also has a good first hands on with the A7r review too.
43rumors.com leaks info.
Pansonic leaks my wallet.
Be interested to see a detailed comparison between this camera and the humble Olympus E-pm2, which costs a lot less, has a hotshoe, and takes a viewfinder. These are kind of the basics for me. Just for the record, I own mostly Panasonic lenses and one aging E-pl1. Am looking to upgrade my camera, I go back and forth between Olympus and Panasonic.
also, epm2 is already 33.8mm thick, so the 30mm GM1 doesn’t seem like a substantial reduction in thickness…
I am hoping the GM1 will be aimed at enthusiasts that normally use PASM. The EPM2 is aimed at people that normally shoot in full auto. The pictures show what looks like at least one control dial on the top plate. I am also hoping for firmware that allows control over things like auto ISO and perhaps an electronic level.
Guys, why don’t you grow up and learn to think? The GM1 isn’t intended to be the perfect camera with every feature you might think you want? It’s design goal was to be the smallest m43 available, and offer high quality in a tiny package. By all appearances, it appears to have succeeded.
If you want something different, then buy something different, but don’t criticize this because it’s not for you. It’s another alternative, that’s all. And one that will probably appeal to a lot of people.
Surprisingly small… and only 173g! With lens this will be probably weigh about the same than RX100MkII (281g) – which is why I’m guessing the two cameras have been compared since the GM1 rumours started. Personally the weight is what makes a camera super-portable, not whether or not it’s jeans pocketable. I can’t say I’m a fan of the bulging crotch look anyway…
I guess we have different measurements for pocketability. If you are going to a concert that doesnt allow DSLRs or ILC, then the GM1, although small will still attract attention as the lens is soo large. The LF1 or S110/S120 or RX100 works better for this scenario.
That’s absolutely true in that scenario. For me, (and I’m mainly thinking of a small but decent camera to bring on holidays), the GM1 looks very interesting… I’m looking forward to seeing the full specs.
Is it me or does the lens mount on the GM1 look too small on this comparison?
The mount size is correct around 55mm which is the height of the camera. Lenses like 12mm,14mm,45mm and even 17mm and 9-18mm will look good. Everything with bigger diameter including the 20mm will look like Frankenstein with big head small body look.
GM1 will help Olympus lenses sales because most small lenses came from Olympus. LOL. I hope Panasonic will have other surprises such as razor thin pancake primes similar to Pentax.
Agree
pathetic showing of humping a brand. Besides, everybody knows the top selling M43 lenses come from Panasonic. 20mm is the King lens of M43, and thats a obvious choice for this camera.
Did you even read what you commented on?
The diameter of 14-42 X PZ is 61mm. The new lens will be ~55mm. Many lenses will look huge on GM1.
Looks like Panasonic can anticipate a letter from Nikon’s lawyers, as per:
http://www.sansmirror.com/newsviews/protection-by-lawsuit.html
I surely wouldn’t mind the 12-32mm, I always find the 14-42x still on the bulky side even though it is quite compact.
What I wrong with everyone on this Nikon lawsuit? Look at some other images of the two cameras- the design is very similar, especially the lens barrel and rings. They made it to look like a Nikon 1. It’s not a frivolous claim.
Any body read this Thom Hogan blog, the Panasonic camera Nikon are suing over is a u43 body with an 18Mp sensor, perhaps Panna and Oly should be more concerned than Nikon…..
@admin – lens thickness?
Bloody hell, it’s tiny. Looks more like an exercise in miniaturization than a useable product, but what do I know? If the only purpose was beating the RX100 then it’s OK (although the kit lens is shorter and slower), but using it might prove to be a challenge. I wish the GM1 had a hot shoe and optional grip and viewfinder which would make it more modular.
+1
98mm is 3.9 inches, not 4.9.
I was worried about the weight but 173g is lighter than I expected. If the lens is light too this is going to be really interesting.
Good job Panasonic. Next time I go hiking and climbing in the mountains I’ll carry a GM1 with me.
I’m looking for a new camera for exactly that reason! Have only just started climbing and have already almost fallen off several pinnacles due to my camera bag (weight). Gonna need the E-M1 to drop in price a bit so this plus the 20mm look like a good setup, I do love the 4/3s 7-14mm but it’s too heavy for a 7-9 hour day scrambling.
The E-M1 is not for you. You need the E-M5 or the E-M5 successor (which is NOT the E-M1). When are you guys going to figure that out?
I know I don’t “need” the E-M1, I don’t sell any of my photos (thus it’s too expensive a proposition) but as an engineer that camera really appeals, it’s nigh on perfect. I do however own quite a few HG lenses and go to a lot of motor sport events so AF tracking is invaluable! But really I love cameras as much as photography, hence being on this site I guess.
Like I said, climbing is new to me and need a cam with good DR and resolution/IQ, technology is advancing to give us that in a small package, the GM1 looks great.
P.S, have tried the E-M5, didn’t work for me; didn’t like the EVF and I have big hands.
A quick estimate of the lens depth, scaling from the published photo, is that it will stick out roughly 20mm from the camera body. That would make the total depth with lens around 50mm, or just about 2 inches. Certainly thicker than the tiny LX1 and the RX100 series, but only about 5mm thicker than the LX7. Thick for a pants pocket (which I wouldn’t use to carry my camera anyway), but not too much for a small belt pouch or a jacket pocket.
This is again only an estimate with the kit lens collapsed as shown in the earlier photo. From the dot and index mark arrangement on the lens photo, one can deduce that it somehow twists or bayonets out to extend into shooting position.
Overall, less volume than the LX7 even with lens. I would look for a minimum-thickness protection filter (I believe someone published the filter diameter as 37mm). Perhaps the X-cap guy will make one of these great automatic caps for this lens, if it can be done.
The body W x H is even smaller than the LF1, which is amazing. I wonder if the W includes the strap lugs. I wish they would have used recessed strap slots instead of the protruding lugs; those aren’t nice for holding the camera in certain positions.
The strap lugs tell you this is a portable, light-weight camera but NOT pocketable. If it was truly designed for your pocket, it would feature strap lugs like the RX100. Instead, this camera is really meant to stay around your neck and not cause fatigue.
holy, that is small! will probably get one. I cant afford the sony A7 anyway.
I really hope there will be a mini 17/2 as well.
This camera is interesting, but not really thin enough to make it worth moving from my gf3 which I use as my small second body with 14/20/45 lenses. Thickness is limited by register depth plus LCD. In the interests of something thinner I would like an EVF only body.
Having said that, the gx7 sensor plus new zoom are attractive (20mm thick zoom with good IQ is really good – lets hope they deliver).
173g nice… should be < 300g with kit zoom I reckon 🙂
450g with the new 14-140 too -puts the new RX10 in the shade given sensor is twice the size (albeit without EVF and a few “balance” issues!)
So what are the possibilities for the new shutter? Any other ideas apart from the electronic first curtain?
Mechanically, I would expect this to eliminate shutter shock once and for all. Not bad! 🙂
is hotshoe hidden, and is lcd tiltable like rx100 mk2?
And i can see 3 dials. one PASM, one dial around the shutter and a other one, what s the last dial?
its size is interesting!
I hope the image and video quality is not compromised and would be great if it has IBIS as well.
Let’s wait to see how many controls are there on the back of the camera…
Nice but E-PM2 + 20/1.7 is better combo…
Why? The E-PM2 has no built-in flash. Clip it on and it adds more bulk. Also, the 20mm can be used on the GM1.
But it can take an EVF. No proper viewfinder equals no sale for me though I know that not everybody agrees.
Check LuLa out, Michael Reichman has a hands on report. Mount is E mount though it appears Sony will introduce a new range of lenses ‘FE’. Alpha lenses will use an adapter (similar to MMFx) While E mount lens will provide a APSc size image.
LuLa link
http://www.luminous-landscape.com/reviews/cameras/sony_a7r_hands_on.shtml
This very small size of the GM1 is incredible. I thought it would be small but not so small many m4/3 lenses would be too big on it. Looks like Pany must be planning to bring out very small fast all metal primes to match. Given the size differences I can see Pany continuing to produce a GX2 ie GX1 with new sensor for those wanting the hotshoe, optional EVF and using any lens combo at a lower price. With this gem hard to see where the GF6+ series fits anymore unless as lower cost alternative.
Why would pana bring out small fast primes, when olympus has already done a great job on that front? I love this camera from what we can see – it does what the pens kind of tried to do in creating a truly pocketable camera, whilst immediatealy capitalising on the oly primes.
WHO CARES?? CRAPPY M43.. SONY FF NEX A7R!!
Who cares? Comprehensive line-up of M43 lenses in stock versus promises for FF-E-mount system…
Great new shutter, same crap sensor (shame about the glass, too).
Fuji Kool (probably the same person), you’re an idiot.
What is with these full frame trolls who seem to spend their entire lives visiting forums for other formats? They really need to get out of their mom’s basements and get some sunlight.
I mean, seriously, don’t you have better things to do with your time? Like go take some pictures with your mom’s iPhone?
What’s with this Sony FF BS propaganda here? I don’t see m43 people flooding Sony/Canikon forums with m43-links like these sad little Sony-fanboys… Feeling a bit insecure? Need some attention to be drawn to YOUR favourite brand(s)? Guess what… M4/3 is THE best solution and most of us don’t care about your FF crap. =)
*solution=compromise
Geez, the pro m43 crowd is almost as bad as the FF crowd. Stop treating cameras like religion. Your manhood isn’t defined by your camera. (Well, except all the 12 year olds who seem to frequent this place, and don’t have any manhood yet.)
No system is perfect. m43 or FF, both are about compromises. Just use what you have and what you like to take pictures..
Scroll up.. Don’t you see ALL the links to Sony A7 pages? You dont see that 35-40% of all the comments are made about the A7, when the A7 isn’t even Micro Four Thirds? It’s not even a Panasonic camera!
I swear, this site gets worse every single day. Admin, any chance you’re going to come in here and delete these links?
Holy SHIT. I just realized this is both smaller and lighter than a Canon s95/100/etc. WOW. At least the body alone will easily fit in any pocket. Very nice.
Pocketability with a lens, even the 14 or the new pancake, might be a different story, but I’m still impressed. Really interested to see one in person.