UPDATE: The lens can be preorderd at BHphoto with Nikon mount (Click here) or Canon mount (Click here) version.
The Zeiss 55mm f/1.4 Otus is said to be the best Full Frame lens on market. And here is the first image of the next Otus lens…the Zeiss 85mm f/1.4! This lens will be available for Canon/Nikon but you can obviously use it with adapter on your A7 camera too.
UDPATE: A source just told us the image quality of the new 85mm lens surpasses even the 55mm Otus. The size and build are nearly identical to the 55.
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Oh, if I had the money….
you currently own this lens in a parallel universe, find comfort in that 🙂
You currently are this lens in a parallel universe.
Rent it and see that a lens, no matter how good it is, does not make you a better photographer. By the way, I’m not saying you are a bad photographer.
While I’m sure it will be very nice, more than happy with my ZA85.
I love mine too, but wouldn’t mind if they updated it with internal focusing and weatherproofing like the ZA50.
Yeah while nice to have, not going to plonk down another grand to upgrade even if they do.
I’m a sucker for upgrades. Keeps my wife happy with all my hand-me-downs. She’d love my ZA85 for her a77M2.
Well there is always the Sigma HSM with internal focussing and an Art version is supposedly on its way (next year probably).
I would rather spend the extra $1k on a ZA135…
The ZA135 is a beauty. I picked up a used one a couple of years ago and it’s a favorite whenever weight is not an issue. I don’t think I’d ever trade in a ZA lens for a Sigma Art though. They just don’t have the “life,” even though they may be a tad sharper.
and ssm, when focusing with the za85, as if there is a pin printer on the camera, zzz…zzz..z…zzz…zzz
Here is to hoping the 85mm FE won’t be far behind
Well the optical formulas would be very different…
Only slightly different ;)! Hust….
It has to be 10 times better than the ZA 85 mm. Otherwise its a piece of junk. You need autofokus on a 85 mm
I’ve compared the ZA50 to the Otus 55 (a99 vs. D800e) and while for my money the ZA50 is pretty darned good, the Otus 55 really is in a different class. 10x better? Probably not. And you’re right, a/f is awfully nice, especially if you’re shooting anything that’s moving.
so would you recommend the ZA40 1.4 vs the Sigma 50 1.4?
Which ZA40? Do you mean the ZA50?
Yeah sorry za50 1.4 released in early 2013
Sigma 50 Art is gorgeous nearly as good as the otus in terms of sharpeness, built quality, overall performance and with AF but let alone special zeiss rendering, microcontrast, better bokeh of otus….so i think it is remarkable superior in comparison to the 50 1.4 za…
Well I guess a Sigma Art won’t be too far off.
In the history of photography, AF is a brand-new invention. Photographers have been taking monumental, beautiful, historic, inspiring, extraordinary pictures with MF lenses long before you and I were born, and those who have what it takes will continue to do so long after you, I , this website and your Sony AF lenses will be long forgotten. Zeiss has provided true photographers with professional lenses for 156 years and will most likely continue to do so when Sony will have long abandoned interchangeable lens cameras. Show a little respect. And, if you at least *aspire* to be more than just another guy with a camera taking thousands of mediocre pictures lost in an ocean of billions of mediocre pictures, then you might want to try to expand your horizon just a tiny little bit.
Maybe Zeiss will have the same fate as Rollei, Kodak or other historic brands that now are long gone…In this field nothing is sure and it’s not the long history that keeps a company going. I agree about the part with the great photos taken by the great masters of photography using MF but you have to consider that if AF was available back then they would have used it (just like they’ve used the best tech availabele back then) and they would still have remainded true photographers. It doesn’t mean that if you use AF you aren’t a true photographer or it keeps you from being a great photographer. You can still use MF with AF lenses if you thing you are better this way….
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Zeiss seems to be doing quite well with their current philosophy, and will likely do well in the future.
Filter thread is only 86mm? Phew! I was afraid it will be over 105mm. Must be a joy to use on a Nikon or a Canon cam. 🙂
I know! At only 86mm, a B+W protective filter will only cost you £77…nevermind them polarizers!
If you put a ‘protective’ filter on this lens… you don’t deserve to have to lens 😉
You sometimes need to have it.
Anyone who has cash to spend can buy one and use it as they wish. There is no question of “deserving” anything.
What an elitist d1ckheaded comment.
Only d1ckhead thing here is putting a sh!tty ‘protective’ filter on potentially one of the best optics ever made… It’s not elitist, just pointing out how dumb a$$ed that idea is
Consider the source: abortabort. ‘Nuff said about that troll.
But regarding the Otis if you’re complaining about the filter costs then you can’t afford one. ;^)
As far as I’m very happy with current 85/1.4 ZA, I would certainly appreciate if the expected “upgrade” used Apo Planar design the same way as this Otus here does. Correction of CA in current 85 ZA (“classic” Planar design) is definitely its weak point.
Are you wondering why the 85 Otus is smaller than the 55? Because essentially, the 55 is kinda 85 + permanently attached wideangle converter
Delicious…..cant wait to get my hands on ;)!
Yes, now wake up and get back to work! Or are you gonna dish out a few gazilion dollars and buy this lens? If so, pls tell me where you live so I can rob you from this lens 😉
Germany & working for Carl Zeiss ;)!
If this is the case, please share some info – why are there no a-mount versions (or plans) of Otus lenses?
Sorry our contract of labor and salary includes loyality, discretion, confidentiality, (well guarded) business secrets etc…otherwise we get fired….i dont use a mount….i think it has sth. to do with market share worldwide of a mount within pros and enthusiasts section using it not that much….
Well, we a-mount users certainly purchase expensive lenses though not in the quantity of Canon/Nikon.
The Otus series would be more at home on an a99 (or its successor) than any Canon or Nikon thanks to In-Body Image Stabilization, Focus Peaking and Manual Focus Magnification. Given your company’s close ties to Sony, it seems highly feasible.
Yeah, you work for Zeiss… ahahahaha
Seriously, what is the point of saying that on here?
first? my аss..
The first to make a connection to Sony A/E mount! 🙂
If your asss comes first then you might want to swivel your head around your body.
Knowing about curved sensor technology, I’m only interested in “perfect” lenses designed around that now. So for now I’d say no thanks, but if you can afford it it looks impressive.
I agree with this assessment. These ever-increasing complexity and sophistication in lenses aimed at producing perfect planar images is analogous to the ever-more complicated and sophisticated orreries produced to describe the motion of heavenly bodies in a Ptolemaic system.
All the corrective elements are the functional equivalents of epicycles–and just as the best Ptolemaic systems did an excellent job at describing the observed motions of heavenly bodies, the best of the best planar-image lenses actually do an excellent job at representing the view they look upon–however, they do so in an uneconomic way.
Using this lens with an adaptor on a Sony body is pointless. The difference in quality is all in the precision. Sony admit this with their discussion of the R1. To put a hunk of metal with two opportunities to mess up the tolerances between this lens and your body is to waste the performance.
Sure you’ll take lovely photos. Will you see what the lens can do? No chance. Wait for the Sigma or buy a body with a native mount (Nikon – as then you get the aperture ring).
For Sony shooters the Sigma will be equal or better simply for the lack of the adaptor.
Zeiss showed off the Otus last year at their booth with the (then unreleased) a7r at PhotoPlus. They seemed to think the combination was fine. Sony also had the Otus at their booth for testers to try it out on the a7.
I have personally used an a7r adapted with Canon 17 t-SE & 24 T-SE. The results are superior to using them natively on a full frame Canon.
Zeiss are happy to sell lenses to anyone. Sony shooters are an obvious target because there are so few fast native lenses. All the native lenses under f2 are insanely priced (50, 1.8 for $1K?) and 1.4’s just aren’t there.
Sony have failed to produce ‘table stakes’ for full-frame and that’s an opportunity for 3rd parties. Let’s not forget the Otis is Zeiss. The “Zeiss” sold by Sony is like the Leica sold by Panasonic.
Of course the Otis will make great images with an adaptor but the point of paying for the last ounce of performance is to get the last ounce of performance. You won’t see that with an adaptor in the way. If you have that money to spend and want to shoot the best sensor in the market buy a Nikon D810. It’s cheaper than the lens and unlike the Sony has a fully pro build and interface.
That’s before considering the wisdom of putting the largest lenses in the market on the smallest full-frame bodies. What’s the point?
Finally Canon don’t have any high MP bodies and they worst low ISO performance in the market. The lens you mention are the best in their entire range. Even Nikon has nothing to touch them and in almost every other length Nikon bests or matches Canon (the Nikon 35 and 50’s are bad. 24, 85, and 200 are unsurpassed. 135 is a wash with the edge going to Canon.)
Adapting the lenses you have in the way you have is the smartest choice. However adapting 50’s and 85’s isn’t going to get you anything.
If you really want the best quality, the Leica S with its new sensor will beat Otis and the size is the same when comparing pro bodies.
I think a portrait lens does not need to be “perfectly sharp”, a wide angle Otus makes more sense.
this is the 3rd lens on the zeiss teaser puzzle. Wonder what’s the last one? Anyway, intrigued by this although I will never buy it, can’t justify the price/quality ratio
A 135mm .95. Get the back brace out.
The last one is rumored to be a ZM Distagon 35/1.4. And the absolute best will never have the best price/quality ratio. It has never been a linear relationship.
So true. Which explains why most people jump off the law of diminishing returns train long before reaching Otis Station. How many people could consistently match photos to lenses for the top 50mm/55mm lenses produced by Sigma, Sony, Zeiss, Canon, and Nikon?
This post is somewhat misleading. You can’t use an Otus made for Nikon on an A7 body and still adjust the aperture. Only the Canon-mount Otus in combination with a Metabones adapter will do that. Metabones doesn’t make a Nikon > Sony adapter that links the electronic aperture control. No one does.
I think you need to check your fact before making claim. Otus ZF definitely has a physical aperture ring.
LOL I think you need to get your eyes checked. No, it doesn’t.
Lucky Canon shooters errrr.