Image on top shows the current FS100.
I got first tidbits about a new E-mount Pro Cinema Camera that will replace the current FS100 . Of course it will record 4K video and will be competitively priced against the Canon C100 an C300.
I got no info yet about when exactly this will be announced. I guess soon…
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That’s exactly what we’ve been waiting for….
I hope they change the awful boxy form-factor, about as ergonomic as a brick
Afaik, all high end film cameras are boxy because that makes them easier to rig.
not the C100/300, not everyone shoots with a massive rig, plenty of people like to run and gun, that is why the C100 is so popular among journalists
Huh??? Not much difference between the FS ergo and the C300 ergo?? Both could be better… The good news is the new Sony arrives in a month….The C300/100 won’t be replaced for at least another year…Lets see what Sony has learned…
They are about the same, both needs equal amount of rigging or non rigging.
The c100 is less than ergonomic if you intend to shoot handheld without a rig.
not everyone likes shooting with the C100/C300 neither. Some people like boxy designs, other round designs. Some prefer them on rigs, other to run with them. Not all are journalists.
Some journalists still use basic rigs for the C100/C300 even for run & gun scenarios, such as cinematographers for VICE news, although I must say that the C100’s ergonomics in it’s bare form is a blessing to work with for run & gun scenarios
In my humble opinion, C100/300/500 form factor is neither a good design.
Of course you can, sorry, you MUST rig your camera. I have yet to find a satisfying one for my FS700, although the Zacuto upcoming one looks promising.
What ALL manufacturers need to come up with is cameras with a shoulder mount design thought natively. Think about Aaton “cat over the shoulder” camera design.
That said, we can only expect Sony to come up with a Sony design so… the battle is lost in advance.
FS700 replacement with A7s sensor I guess is the most interesting thing that Sony can announce. Especially if they somehow fix the issues with fast panning. Better codec and internal 4K I guess will be there. I guess this thing can do Full HD in crop mode (APS-C/ super 35) and also can do 4K in full frame, right?
Can cameras like FS700 take SSD as recording media? The box seems big enough to hold one or two SSD storage devices.
FS700 replacement with Global Shutter sensor please !
Rolling shutter on A7s makes my eyes bleed…
Internal XAVC 4K recording is a given.
It can probably take an internal SSD (design wise) but Sony won’t let you record on anything but the one they will sell you.
Thanks. Agree on the global shutter.
As for lock-in I believe Sony have traveled some from the memory stick era
that is a possibility. Good as their current and other cams are,the new sensors and other new improvements are good reasons to release a new model.
price 1000$ for a cinema pro camera. Sony must make this if want win a top of market
They are already top of the pro video market… End of story.
Cinema pro cameras cost 50x that price. The current fs100 for low end videography and prosumer work is $2500. Your number is absurd.
I want something comparable to a Blackmagic Pocket Cinema Camera with E-mount and a Super 35mm sensor. That would be so sweet … Especially if it is a €1000 machine that shoots 1080p ProRes 422 right to the memory card.
Its called a5100 + Ninja.
I guess you didn’t read the “shoots ProRes right to the memory card” part. Also, it’s a 24 MP sensor, which means there’s quite a bit of line skipping or pixel binning going on. For matching the BMD Pocket Cinema Camera, Sony needs a camera with a 2 MP sensor. Not to mention the need for headphone and mic ports and video features like zebra.
Well they do at least have zebra.
You will never get a Sony camera shooting to apple’s proprietary codec.
ProRes is an industry standard and delivers far better quality than the AVCHD Sony is forcing us to use. But hey, I don’t even care if they don’t give us ProRes – there are other codecs out there which compress to a similar bandwith and deliver almost similar quality. I’d be fine with that. Just give us something better than AVCHD, a 2K sensor and some video features in an affordable body.
Xavc is at least a step up.
Sony already announced a professional camcorder a few days ago that will be able to shoot ProRes (and DNxHD and XDCAM HD422 and MPEG IMX and DVCAM…). BTW, ProRes isn’t really proprietary as it is used by a lot of manufacturers of cameras, recorders or editing systems.
Well, if true that’s great and I stand corrected. It’s shocking that Sony would embrace and /or license apple and Avid’s codecs.
These codecs are proprietary in that they were developed and are owned/licensed by the respective owner not a standards group ( like MPEG).
See: http://support.apple.com/kb/HT200321?viewlocale=en_US
Sony F5 & F55 have just been updated a couple pf months ago to record prores internally.
You already have it. Just add a metabones adapter to your BMPCC. You will also have more lenses available than e-mount off the bat, plus you have 1080p ProRes HQ and CameraDNG, which is more than you asked for… and you can buy it now (or during last summer for your asking price of $1000: BMPCC for $500 plus $500 for the metabones).
Oh, and you also get more firmware upgrades in a month from Black magic than you get from Sony in 3 years, and they actually contain new functionality not just bug fixes 🙂
Only real issue with the BMPCC is battery life and sound. I have an Anker Pro2 external battery, and that costs nothing, and that lets the BMPCC literally shoot all day. for sound use any decent $100 sound recorder (off camera is usually better anyway, I stick mine on the end of a benro monopod that has mini tripod legs.
Yep, I agree, the BMD PCC is an awesome option. The thing just is that I want to be able to use my E-mount lenses. Sure, they’re not entirely optimized for cinematic use, but after investing quite a bit in a full set of E-mount Zeiss lenses I’d be glad to be able to continue using them when shooting video. Buying a whole new set of good lenses simply is above my budget, no matter how good the Pocket Cinema Camera is.
Choice!!!… and it will be e-mount!!….If this has the A7s sensor it will be a serious weapon. With the capability to grade into F5 and F55 footage will be great for seamless production…Perfect!!
Not if it comes with an 8bit codec…
obviously it will come with a super35 sensor, not fullframe.
Perhaps you should rename the site ‘Sony E with lots of other bits of minority interest junk Rumours’!
It’s not his fault. Sony should rename itself “Sony E & Some Junk Co.”
Oh dear A-mount fans feel left out again…So it must be junk…Obviously..
Well, I’m an e-mount user actually, and I have no a-mount lenses, but i tend to go with a flow 🙂
….aaaaaaaand yet another E-Mount body. That’s exactly what’s lacking right now, we need more of those.
This doesn’t concern you, you’re not in the targeted market for the FS-series.
Were you expecting Sony to make a new A mount camcorder?
Let’s hope it’s closer to C100’s price rather than C300’s since price difference between these 2 is quite a bit..
So not an FS700 replacement but an FS100 replacement ?
I thought it was weird at first but the FS100 is still on Sony’s catalog so why not.
Maybe first they will replace the 100 then the 700…
Anyway, only two more weeks until IBC !
More info please as you get it! I’m just about to shell out for a O7Q for my FS700, but would rather sell the FS700 and get this new one if price is right! (€7000 or less)
Come on Sony – 4k version of the VG30/EA50 Please!
After seeing the FS100U price drop, I’m pretty confident it’s time for this to happen. When their stills cameras are starting to outpace their dedicated E-mount cinema cameras, then it might be time to update the cinema line-up.
I’m a bit worried that Sony is trying to take on the canon 5D and in the process make this new camera full frame like the VG cameras. I notice that all of the lenses coming are full frame and I personally do not want a new full frame camera. I want super-35 only thank you very much.
With the diagonal size of the sensor determining depth of field, and the larger the sensor…
the shallower the depth of field; the irony is that in these days of the democratization of film making at lower budgets than before, one needs a world-class experienced camera assistant to follow focus with a full frame sensor…
One of the reasons that I chose Sony for example was that the NEX system embraced the Super-35 size sensor, which yields depth of field consistent with the motion picture viewing
experience. YES Super-35 can do the popular shallow depth of field look, but not everything is blobby and out of focus – except one or two at best of the actors. Super-35 is perfect, THAT’s
why motion picture cameras have been using it for decades.
Watch the Film “Act of Valor” shot with full frame cameras, it was shot by Shane Hurlbutt a very competent DP, but everything is total blobs-ville with depth of field so shallow that I want to scream. Watch Bing Crosby in Paramount’s classic “White Christmas” it’s the same thing (back then they called it VistaVison). Please Sony Sensor Salesmen, We don’t want full frame sensors on our film cameras – just because Canon did it, ok?
Although I agree with you, a full frame would offer more flexibility. If it, like the A7S was very light sensitive, you could close the aperture to lessen the shallow depth of field. OR you could use it in crop sensor mode. If the crop sensor mode was a no compromise mode, that would give all your lenses two different ranges as the push of a button.
I miss a full frame mostly when filming in small spaces, so I’m forced to use a very wide lens and therefore can hardly get anything out of focus. In those cases a full frame would allow me to use a different lens and some shallow depth of field.
I have to agree with you. It’s really all about just how “no compromise” the
no compromise mode actually is.
I expect a global shutter, and an OLED viewfinder, (to keep up with the Joneses, I mean Coherent) along with the ability to record 4K in the camera body. 10 Bit might be too much to ask, though I’d welcome it of course. There’s talk that this would be a replacement for the FS100, so I suspect the frame rate will top out at 30 or 60 and leave super slow-mo and perhaps RAW to the future FS700 replacement… It might feature a curved sensor though,
and the sensitivity of the A7s would be wild.
It might even have a relocated battery so the A5 recorder could dock to the back of it without the silly adapter, but then bigger batteries come with that territory. It’s all pretty exciting none the less.
I’m pretty close to switching to URSA, in spite of having 11 e-mount lenses so far. Please Sony, keep me in the family, I really don’t want a Blackmagic camera, and oddly I guess, i really don’t mind the ergonomics of the FS100 and FS700, I shoot with them all the time and it’s just not an issue for me; it’s all about the image quality which so far has been wonderful.