The A6000 with 16-50mm lens at Cameta (Click here) and Amazon (via Cameta).
The A6000 body only at Cameta (Click here).
There are also sort of superkits with extras at Cameta (Click here).
I am collecting the first A6000 SAR readers test and will post a roundup the next days. Keep sending me your impressions and reviews!
And two SAR readers also told me that their 70-200mm FE lens preorder at Amazon (Click here) has been shipped.
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Just got mine… impressions:
The 6000 removes the functionality of the 6/7 by forcing the user to hit the zoom button twice to enhance the manual focus zoom area, instead of just hitting the button once, as before. I can now no longer switch between 6/7 and the 6000 because of the workflow differences. As a professional, this is an ergonomic nightmare, and a noticeable step backward in usability, although it may seem trifling to those photographers that are AF lens users (read: most). I may end up returning the camera, as I love my old nikkors… they worked perfectly using the previous focus assist on NEX 6/7.
I mention this here for two reasons:
1) None of the “preview” reviews of the camera mentioned it, because they are mostly run by people who know nothing about photography. Shame on them.
2) Sony shouldn’t market the camera as a replacement for the NEX 6/7 and then remove via software the one feature that was most useful about those cameras for manual focus glass.
I really hate it when features are removed from a camera that were there in the manufacturers previous “version”. There is no way for me as a consumer to know not to buy this camera because said feature had been removed. This is a software modification that wasn’t in the specs. Caveat Emptor.
I will update SA rumors if there is something I missed because I have only had the camera a few hours. I will also update if I hear about a firmware update that restores the functionality of NEX 6/7. Until then, I consider this camera broken for manual focus glass, and a major step backward from NEX 6/7 in that regard.
Yeah, that feature would piss me off.
thanks for sharing that important info, and pls dont look at trolls. I found flat looking colors as the second step back.
Is it just an extra click or do you have to re-position the zoomed area with each click?
I can report that the delay that is noticeable… hit zoom, the zoomed area comes up and is available for repositioning via the 4 way controller… only after this delay, can you actually zoom in. Dodge has a point, this might not be an issue for some, but I use manual focus lenses, and this behavior means they are much much harder to work with on A6000 vs NEX (my experience is not the norm of course, as I use MF lenses 90% of the time on my NEX’s).
The behavior of NEX 6/7 was quite amazing in this regard, as once your AF point was set, MF lenses would zoom directly to that position if you chose to zoom in (via button press), allowing for extremely quick acquisition of focus.
My heart bleeds for you Taran………….
You are gutless! LOL
I can see the irritation, but I don’t see it as nearly as big of a deal as you do that would prevent me from buying a camera. I now shoot exclusively manual focus, and as someone who transitioned from Nex 5 and 7 (single press) to the A7 (double press), I got used to it pretty quickly, and now I actually like being able to select my zoom area before zooming and the extra time it takes is negligible (especially considering that if you’re using MF glass, you’re probably not shooting action or things that require the speed of AF). It certainly takes me no more time than when I’d select an AF point when I was using auto focus lenses. I definitely would not say that using MF lenses is suddenly “much much” harder, which makes it sound like you have to go through some ridiculous process instead of just pressing the button twice instead of once. Maybe the delay is more noticeable on the A6000 than on the A7.
Then again, why did you feel the need to upgrade from Nex 6 and 7 to a camera whose main new feature was auto focus if you use almost exclusively manual focus lenses?
I don’t mean to be adversarial, as I know you’re a talented photographer, I just think it’s a little far to condemn this as a removed essential feature that would interrupt your workflow to such a degree, or something that should have been advertised ahead of time.
I needed to upgrade because the shutter on my N7 has died at speeds above 1/2000. In FL where the sun is bright, those speeds are essential.
I agree it is not essential for many, but it is a deal breaker for me. As I said, my experience is not the norm. Cameras are personal things, what might be inconsequential for you might be essential for me etc etc.
Sony owes me nothing, but I bought the camera, and wanted to express my opinion that A6000 sucks for MF, and the NEX’s were great. Just one persons opinion.
Fair enough. This seems like something that could easily be addressed in a firmware update (not that I’d hold my breath), and I do think it should be an optional setting–the more interface options the better! I know I wish I could map ISO to one of the top dials on the A7 in aperture priority.
One more thought–have you tried “double clicking” the button on the A6000 or is there too much of a delay? I just tried it on the A7 and it’s instantaneous…a quick double press does exactly what the old single press did, and it also remembers positioning (it doesn’t reset to center each time).
The double button push can be done, as you say, but this is frustrating
to have a button do different things from generation to generation, with
no way to revert. Also, what if I want to shoot with my N7? I have to
modify my behavior again, and the camera feels so similar I cannot tell
without looking down. Extremely frustrating, and I stand by my
assertion that it is inferior to what was previously a fine system.
I can’t really change my current behavior because of professional commitments. It’s no big deal for me to pick up another N6, but I wasn’t expecting to lose a feature so vital to me, just by upgrading. As you say, I will remain hopeful for a firmware update, or, return the camera.
SEL70200G has been shipping in Europe for three weeks already.
Can SAR remove the offending and useless messages of user “Dodge?”
Thanks!
I would normally agree, Zoran, but in this case, give Dodge a break.
He has no friends, no woman, no photography skills, no intelligence, no job, no car, and no goals.
All he has to look forward to in the world is trolling SAR.
Be easy on him. He is a sensitive, troubled, confused man.
This hits really close to home. Please, I’m just having fun trolling you guys. Dont make it personal. I’ve been through things you couldnt understand. I’m a broken man.
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One of the things I like and dislike at the same time about SAR is the freedom of speech in the comments. Usually the rude comments get removed but the ones below I don’t see as rude just annoying and childish. You and I by replying risk encouraging this kid to post more but hopefully he sees that no one likes them.
I thought Cameta went out of business…? Who am I thinking of?
You are thinking of Camulet Photo
Calumet.
In stock here, just saw it:
https://www.huntsphotoandvideo.com/detail_page.cfm?productid=ILCE6000LB&mfg=Sony&show=yes