Image source: Winandmac
I still get mails from readers asking when the NEX-7 successor (aka A7000) will be announced. As I wrote many times on SAR I know from trusted sources the A6000 replaces both, the NEX-6 and NEX-7. Well for disbelievers here is an image of an official Sony presentation showing clearly how the A6000 replaces the NEX-7 too. Thanks Corto for sharing the pic!
The future of TriNavi: One source told me TriNavi navigation is certainly not coming back in any future APS-C E-mount camera. And as far as he knows not even in any Full Frame E-mount camera.
Sony A6000 preorder list with US and Europe links:
Sony A6000 at Amazon (Click here), Adorama, BHphoto (Click here), SonyStore (Click here). In Europe at Sony DE, UK, FR, IT, ES, AT, NL, BE, CH, FI, SE, PT, WexUK.
Silver A6000 at WexUK (Click here).
Sony A6000 with lens at Amazon (Click here), Adorama, BHphoto (Click here), SonyStore (Click here), Sony Canada (Click here), WexUK (Click here).
Silver A6000 with lens at WexUK (Click here).
Sony 70-200mm FE at Amazon (CLick here), BHphoto (Click here), SonyStore (Click here). In Europe at Sony DE, UK, FR, IT, ES, AT, NL, BE, CH, FI, SE, PT
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People will never believe you, because of the EVF and the missing dial …
Sony doesn’t see room in the market. The aps-c ILCE is forever dumbed down, I am afraid.
In my brief stay at SAR my impression is Sony’s camera strategy is very fluid. Part of this is their engineers being able to pull off products but most of it is their marketing department making it up as they go along. IMHO, this chart roadmap won’t last long.
I’d ask what Sony’s 2015 plans are shaping into but I doubt their marketing looks that far ahead. ;^)
Is the A7 not better spec wise than the A7r except the higher MP and mag alloy body? Things like flash sync, electronic first curtain and phase detect af are better on the A7. If I were to get one then I would clearly go for the A7.
Yes, shows how arbitrary this list is and also (I believe) how the Sony team optimized the firmware for the A7R and failed to really take advantage of the faster sensor and PDAF of the A7–can’t make the “Hobbyist” model too much better than the “Professional”!
Well clearly pros want 36MP and mere hobbyists only want 24MP! According to Sony, anyway.
Does the a5000 replace the NEX-5T?
They are both shown in the image above. The 5T is a notch up from the A5000; though, they’re targeting the same market, it appears.
The no nex 7 replacement makes sense since they gave the e mount 7 series to full frame
But not the A7000 series name 😉
That could be key.
I’ve got the Nex 7. Think I will wait till the A6000 af tech matures in the FE cameras as poss go for one of them.
Andrea, when the A6000 was first announced you very strongly hinted otherwise, hardly hiding your guess that something more N7 would come at Photokina. Are you taking that back ??
My guess is he was talking about a hump-less FE camera
Yes, I agree with you, but I assumed this cam would take the N7 form factor, as well…
You’re right Claire, he DID very strongly allude to that.
Andrea?
I think Sony calling the a6000 a gadget tells you everything you need to know about how Sony sees the photography market…
This.
What does “second gadget” even means? I’m pretty sure that it is a bad translation that means second camera or back up body.
What this figures shows is that Sony is targeting the a6000 at a public of enthusiats, which is higher than the NEX-6 but similar to the NEX-7.
1. Only users will ultimately decide which camera “replaces” what.
2. Sony was really onto something with the Tri-Navi, and they never even bothered to refine it for users who had it. I got fed up and sold my NEX-7. It could be the Fuji X-T1 will be my NEX-7 replacement.
This slide makes me sad. Jay is right, as calling the a6000 a gadget is not what a photography focused company would do.
The other serious problem is showing the A77 as a step-down rather than a professional body. This deflates the position that sensor size is a creative choice that professionals and high end enthusiasts make.
If you have an A77, you have the best camera in this segment, which is great for pro sports and wildlife. THAT is the message.
If they call it professional, than Sony will charge a professional price. If it meets your pro needs than it’s better for you that they label it as hobbyist and price it as such.
This is a clever point of view. Let’s hope their next hobbyist gadget is priced like a DiscMan.
That chart makes little sense. Why would the a3000 be at the bottom? Just because it has the form factor of a dslr? There’s nothing stopping Sony from putting the a6000 features in an a3000 body and offering people the option of rangefinder and dslr body types. Sony is weird.
Having no mic input on the a6000 is a step down from the NEX 7.
It’s sad that from now on you have to go FF to have a compact ILCE with mic input.
The hot shoe does it all now with an adapter.
But I haven’t seen any 3,5mm jack adapters for the multi interface shoe.
The bluetooth one is not an option for trade shows etc.
You want a mic input? I’ll give you the mic input!
Just search for Sony XLR Adapter. Of course, you may need a third hand. The one full of muscles… And you’d need 150% more money than what is the price of a6000. But you asked for it!
I have this for a99, it works great and should work just as well on the a6000 (XLR & 3.5″ mic inputs via MIS):
http://store.sony.com/xlr-adapter-and-microphone-kit-zid27-XLRK1M/cat-27-catid-All-Camcorders-NEX-Accessories
But it costs more than the a6000.
Thanks, mate. That would be just overkill for my needs 🙂
Hopefully they will come out for a simple 3.5″ MIS mic input. For now, there are inexpensive MIS mic options:
http://store.sony.com/gun-zoom-microphone-zid27-ECMGZ1M/cat-27-catid-All-Camcorders-Professional-Accessories?_t=pfm%3Dcategory
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/913245-REG/sony_ecmxyst1m_stereo_microphone_for_multi.html
Something that looks like the Bluetooth mic with a 3,5mm input on the receiver-part would be just enough.
That’s funny because I would love the blue tooth mic if it had a 3.5mm input on the transmitter (for a lav).
Well this means E-Mount is officially dead…
um, are we looking at the same thing?
This story confirms e-mount is dead about as much as 2+2 = 5
You’re either trolling or irretrievably stupid.
Satire: some understand it, some don’t.
Well sarcasm is different to satire – and if his post was meant to be sarcastic, then you have to be aware that that doesn’t always come across in the written word, especially when you consider the number of people and the sheer regularity in this forum that people make that sort of comment and are deadly serious.
Lol
Interesting. When the A6000 came out I understood that it would replace both NEX 6 and 7 and said that in here. Some people got mad and criticized me. IMHO the NEX-7 real successor is the A7. I understand that people love the Tri-Navi, but it’s a similar case to the Joystick/Navi combination Sony had in the A700/900: it was gone on later models and SLTs, but came back in the A99. The world didn’t end because of that… The A6000 is an excellent and very camera with some even superior features than the NEX7, it’s a matter of getting used to.
We did not want FULL FRAME! It had no real advantage over APS-C!
But with no nex7 successor and all the e-mount lenses that we already bought we had no choice.
We is pretty broad! Some of us welcome full frame, others not!
Now it is time for the A77 replacement, there is little room between the A6000 and A7 right now… but maybe later the APSC world will for sure get a sensor bump up… but not this generation…
Pity for the tri-navi. It is appalling that they can scrap a good interface like that.
Tri-Navi lives on in the A7/A7R for now. It was a natural NEX-7 replacement for me and many others. (I bought the NEX-5, NEX-5N, NEX-7 and now A7R) Sure, it might be bad news for those who don’t want or afford FF, but I am pretty sure Tri-Navi will resurface on an APS-C E-mount camera eventually. Remember, Sony has the habit of churning out new cameras all the time. This is not the end of the World.
It’s a bold statement to say Tri-Navi will NEVER come back to APS-C E-Mount cameras. Seems like I’ll be using my NEX-7 my whole life then.
Some step “up” it is.
Worse EVF.
Worse shutter/appreture/iso controls.
If the noise levels and dynamic range are the same this is worse than NEX7.
Real step “up” Sony, real step “up”
I think it’s more of the “bigger markup for sony.”
Bigger markup? The A6000 is what, €600 new (body only)? The NEX-7 was €1200 body only back then when it was new.
But I agree otherwise – Sony, I WOULD pay €1200 for an APS-C E-Mount NEX body with Tri-Navi – just build it solidly and throw in everything we need.
If by “bigger markup”, you mean “cut the price by about $500”, then sure.
They don’t see it as a step up. They see it as a second gadget!!!
From the model numbering, I would think that it replaces the NEX-5 series as well. Presumably not right away, though, simply because the NEX-5T is still a relatively new model.
so.. nex7 is the first and the last tri navi? ouch ..^^
Taking the slide by itself, you can’t really definitively say this means much without knowing who created the slide and for whom it was created. Since no unannounced cameras are listed, you can infer that the author of the slide believes the a6000 will appeal to the same market as the Nex 7. That doesn’t say there will be no a7000. SAR may have sources that are correct, but the slide alone does nothing to bolster that and with all due respect, SAR has been wrong before.
Most interesting to me is that they actually dare to use the word professional. That is something that seems to have been avoided in the past, but again; by whom for whom?
See my other comment for my 2 cents. You may eventually prove right should Sony’s product consolidation fail. Certainly it wouldn’t be hard to whip up a couple more models for 2015. However, in a stagnant, even shrinking camera market Sony appears to be trying to cover all bases while being more focused.
Good post. I agree with you. Focused Sony seems like an oxymoron, but that is the reality of what all must do given the market conditions. We certainly can disagree with what they eventually focus on, but that does not negate the need to focus. I still see room for an a7000 and will hold some hope for it. Nex7 with the a6000 focus system would be stellar. I think there is room for it even with a scaled down line-up.
My lineup would be a mount 5, 7, and 9; e mount 3, 5, and 7; fe mount 7 and 9.
Imagine if Canon or Nikon called their mid-range camera a “gadget”….
Burning question is what’s the 1st gadget? A lens?!
Well I could take that to mean a higher end model, perhaps they see the A99 as the 1st gadget!
I don’t know why anyone would think otherwise (unless you seen the official Sony A6000 introduction video where they only mention the NEX-6, that is). It’s clear that the A6000 replaces both NEX-6 and NEX-7, while in the terms of features and controls it’s in many ways a step-down from the NEX-7. Those ranting about the price difference must remember that NEX-7 was released in 2011. Technology gets cheaper by time.
What the hell is wrong with the Sony management?! Why would anyone buy $1000 lens for their gadget camera? Or buy a gadget camera in the first place? And what’s the planned step-up from this step-up camera? The A7 which is much bigger and has slower AF? And what should you do with your lenses after that, throw your $850 wide angle lens to the bin and start from scratch? And then buy what lenses? There’s what, four full frame E-mount lenses? No IBIS in the body and you can forget using A-mount tele lenses with an adapter. I’m speechless.
This is not very though trough strategy by Sony. The amount of stupidy by Sony keeps amazing me every day. I hope customer will see this and stop buying Sony products. Maybe when their close to bankrupt they will finally start listening to their customer? I doubt it, though.
I wouldn’t get too hung up on this use of the term “gadget.” I’m not sure it has all the negative connotations that people are attaching to it.
Yes, it’s English, but is it U.S. English? Is it Australian English, or British?? Could it be a translation problem.
Sony, would – NEVER – print any slur or ill-intentioned word-smithing in their Printed Materials. You can be ABSOLUTELY assured of that.
World English Dictionary: 1. a small mechanical device or appliance
Merriam-Webster: an often small mechanical or electronic device with a practical use but often thought of as a novelty
Dictionary.com: a mechanical contrivance or device; any ingenious article.
I’d give Sony a break for this semantic “slip”.
I agree with you. The term “second gadget” doesn’t make any sense in English, so it must be a literal translation.
Not saying I agree with Sony but this chart puts their marketing in clear perspective. 1 ASP-C offering for each level of the consumer levels. A FF offering for pros and for hobbyists. This gives me full confidence rumors of 2 a-mount FFs, one high-end, one entry level are correct. I also see why my mid-range a65 isn’t being upgraded.
Will fewer ASP-C offerings spur sales? Doubtful. Lower costs? Probably quite a bit. Help margins? Unlikely as Sony has to price no higher than mid-range while offering enough better features not to turn off more demanding amateurs.
If sticker comes in high, expect aggressive discounting sooner than later.
Just my 2 cents.
Sony is a strange company. They get (most of the time, rightfuly so) criticized for a lot of things they do/don’t. When they DO get things right (Navi GUI on the A700~A900) and now the tri-navi system in the Nex 7, they simply take it away!
Both Nex 7 and Nex 6 were shots in the RIGHT direction. Now they’ve just mashed up both in a dumbed down version and call it a “replacement”. Seriously, Sony? SRSLY???????
The Navi GUI returned in the A99 ;)…
Yep, I know. Maybe the Tri-Navi will make a return.
But why the h*ll did they take it away in the first place?
You do something that everyone praises, you just KEEP THE D*MN THING! Doesn’t that seem obvious?!
Seems obvious to me…
The A6000 improves on two of the NEX7’s biggest flaws, low ISO performance and AF speed. Both impact the final product, image quality and the ability to capture an image. They reduced the EVF resolution and removed the tri-navi. Those somewhat affect the ability to capture the image but can they be adapted to? I personally think so. You can’t overcome poor AF. If you’re a manual shooter that needs a high res EVF, most likely you’re using legacy FF lens…Seems like that’s what the A7 is for. If you just need the tri Navi, the A7 is pretty similar as well, but what’s wrong with staying with the NEX7? You might lose some DXO marks on ISO performance but the incremental improvements in ISO is probably negligible unless you’re printing/viewing full resolution. Bottom line, there’s no one camera that’s going to make everybody happy or even be completely perfect a person. Technology has made us spoiled to the point we expect the perfect version is going to be released in 6 months. Maybe I hang around in the wrong crowds but I have yet to hear somebody say wow that picture looks like it was taken with a 2 year old camera.
The A7 is ‘hobbyist’ but the A7r is ‘professional’?
Of course! It haz moar pixelz!!11!!1!!
where are those moar pixels??
A7 has 24mp and the A7r has 36mp. So…. those 12mp must be floating around somewhere. Or perhaps they ran away due the light leak???
i have no idea what are you talking about?
And it sure looks like it…
Stop trolling! Grab your 5D MkIII (as per one of your posts), fold it 4 times, and shove it where the sun doesn’t shine… Then run around and sing Kumbaya
You my sad Canon fanboi is up there for the Darwin Awards!
It’s the target market / price point, not necessarily the feature-set of the camera.
Well more people have bought the a7 as it is the cheaper one.
Well, but we want a true high-ens APS-C NEX 7 successor, and we want TriNavi back 😉
Sony, are you listening?
That image says absolutely nothing about the A6000 replacing the NEX7. The only thing it does is showing that the A6000 is in the same consumer group as the NEX7: hobbyists. Nothing more, nothing less.
Pretty sure a new model with a line to a model nearly 3 years old means that the A6000 replaces the NEX7. They’re not going to keep the NEX7 around forever.
so when is the new NEX-7 (a7000) coming?
Translated to German “gadget” also means “device” or “instrument”. Not that bad.
But in English, and this sign is in English, device and gadget have very different connotations. One is a serious tool, the other is more or less a toy.
In English at a Hong Kong show….
One of Hong Kong’s two primary languages is English 😉
Yes, it is in English, but the term “second gadget” doesn’t mean anything. It is hard to tell what it means without knowing the main language of the presenter, but second gadget might mean second body or back up body. A german speaker could tell us if the back translation makes more sense than in english (assuming that it is from german)
The a6000 is overall a better camera than the Nex-7 at a lower price. And people still complain!
The AF is far better, and arguably the greatest improvement. If a shot is not in proper focus, then the rest doesn’t matter. Also, the sensor is better.
The EVF has lower resolution, but a higher refresh rate, and reviewers seem to like it at least as well, if not better. Resolution on a VF is not everything, just as megapixels on a sensor is not everything.
I do like the Tri Navi, and it’s a shame that is going away, but not a deal breaker.
In summary, the a6000 is a noticable improvement on all Nex series cameras, including the Nex 7, at a very reasonable price. I think it will do well for Sony.
Once people find that the A6000 doesn’t even have a leveling gauge, the party will be over for this camera no matter how fast AF is. I guess we are just too amateurish to need a leveling gauge.
When was the last time you heard someone didn’t buy a camera due to lack of leveling gauge? I bet that’s very low on the list of priority features for camera buyers.
Now for you, that’s a valid priority…I’m not dismissing that. But keep in mind that Sony has to develop cameras to appeal a wide enough swath of buyers, and that they cannot please everybody with every little feature.
There’s probably a reason why Sony didn’t put in Tri Navi, or follow up with an immediately obvious successor to the Nex 7: the sales and feedback from customers didn’t justify it.
I guarantee you that if the Nex 7 had sold like hotcakes, Sony would have followed up with a true successor. But probably the Nex 6 sold better, and so Sony wisely decided to follow up that model with a successor, and one that adds a far better AF and a better sensor than the Nex 7. So those Nex 7 users have something to upgrade to. Of course some Nex 7 users were also the ones clamoring for a FF Nex, and so they already have their upgrade path with the A7 series.
With the financials at Sony, they have to be very strategic as to what models to invest in.
Indeed. Looking at today’s Flickr daily users Nex-6 as well as A7(r) outnumber the Nex-7, which is even longer on the market (without a successor ; – ). So obviously potential Nex-7 buyers have other Sony options to make a 1to1 Nex-7 replace worth while. It got squeezed out from above and below… not much space left in the market for the Nex-7 replacement, IMHO.
Your comment seems to assume that Sony makes rational decisions. Some manager looked at the Excel file and made the call. Ignoring the fact that when NEX-7 was released there was no lenses for it and the price was quite high. Then they released the NEX-6 which was in many aspects better than the NEX-7 and much cheaper. Instead of bringing the NEX-7 feature set on par with the NEX-6 Sony didn’t – and still haven’t done anything with the NEX-7 after it was released in 2011. This is Sony in a nutshell. I asked admin to do a poll if people would pay $200 more for a A7000 with Tri-Navi, weather-sealing and GPS but that’s probably against with his agreement with Sony.
Marco Barrios, you slander the admin, who is REALLY working very hard to give all of us as good info about the Alpha World as possible. You even have the stomach to suggest that Andrea is having an agreement with Sony, making him their lapdog???
No doubt that you dislike Sony for not doing exactly what you want, and the admin for the same reason. Because he didn’t immediately posted YOUR particular poll! The reason for him not doing that is more than obvious – your narrow minded choise of questions is basically of interest for YOU only, not of generell interest. Your particular questions are certainly not what would be the most interesting e.g. for me.
Have you done, or come up with ANYTHING that would be of benefit for anyone here? Unlike you, admin is working his *ss off doing just that!
You should be ashamed of yourself!
+1. Exactly.
First sound comment in this thread.
Other people have said you can activate the level gauge – it seems to be an option somewhere in the new menu system. Everything though, is hearsay until a review of a production unit is available.
Well, both those improvements (image quality and AF) were to be expected anyway. Even on lower end models they will come. Because that’s just a natural technological evolution.
Unlike removing FEATURES.
The initial price for the A6000 is about six hundred dollars less than the initial price for the NEX7. I liked tri-navi, but I went from a NEX7 to a NEX6 so the A6000 will be fine (for me). Looking forward to the faster AF and hopefully better IQ.
I love how these companies (sony now) tell us “if you use this camera you are a professional” and if you use the others your a hobbyist or enthusiast. So nice to be branded by marketeers.
SMH
Ok, no weather sealing, no mic in/out, NO LEVELING GAUGE, lower res EVF and this is supposed to replace NEX-7 too? I’ll shoot the NEX-7 for another year. If Sony decides that I’m too much of an amateur to give me a better camera than the A6000 with all the features I want, then I’ll be done with them.
No leveling gauge?! What the …. ?!
SONY, people are either into photography or they are those that use telephones to take pictures.
Your “amateurs” need same things your “professionals” need.
Are they showing the A99 slightly above the A7R in the pyramid?
It’s a different kind of camera for different purposes – and it’s a lot faster both in fps and AF so it’s clearly the momentary flagship! Nonetheless the A99 should ASAP be replaced with something much more sophisticated!
I’m seriously PO’d with the message in this chart. APS-C is a gadget for amateurs? APS-C or full frame is a matter of choice with size advantage going to APS-C. I don’t consider one as better than the other. BTW- Sony has never said that the A6000 replaces the NEX-7. Their intro video clearly said that the A6000 replaces the NEX-6. Period. No mention was made about the NEX-7. This chart is a moment in time for what is available and Sony’s target market.
Though I understand that camera companies feel they must “rank” their lines, no one should ever listen to their claims of pro, amateur, whatever. Such claims are marketing, and based on your post, are effective marketing. If you feel you must have Sony’s idea of a pro camera, well then you have to pony up for the A7r or A99. I’m happy to make up my own mind.
If you’re at all bothered with motion APS-C is very close to Super-35 film. Super-35 is the industry standard for film/video. With APSC you’d likely reproduce the “film look” better than with FF. I don’t think there’s any right or wrong here, stuff just has different applications!
Can we have
separate RSS feed for NEWS section?
A separate RSS for A-Mount rumors only would be great.
Seriously – you’re soo overwhelmed by browsing through the one or two posts a day that you can’t immediately figure out the things that matter to you? Does your wife chew your food for you, too?
Personally, I browse through tons of posts a day in all social networks, RSS streams, news media and such. And I try to trim this list down as much as I can.
Im over E mount users bashing A mount thats why id like it sepperate .
I’ll just use my NEX-7 until it dies. But if sales determine whether or not Sony will use features, why not put the tri navi on ‘lower end’ models and see what those customers have to say about it?
And why not. It’s still a fantastic camera!
Technically the nex 6 and 7 should have been one camera in the first place.
This camera replaces both the a6 and a7 and sells for $648.
The a77II replaces both the a77 and a65 so logically should cost about the same or a little less.
Canon 5D mark III replaces all sony cameras. period.
5D MIII heavier and bulkier than all sony cameras .period.
Not as a multi-media platform. Audio implementation by Sony is peerless with their smart-shoe and XLR adaptor. Canon don’t have a normal lens that can touch the Zeiss 55 unfortunately. And for those of us who shoot B&W for a living there’s nothing “sensor-wise” from Canon that’ll come anywhere near the A7R’s performance. My 5D3 kit will be on eBay just as soon as my 5D2 kit is sold! http://www.chrisgibbs.com
No question that, in reality, there’s ‘overlap’ between they ‘layers’ they’ve identified here. But I too was surprised by Sony’s use of the term ‘gadget’
I think the issue is more the context that the graphic was being used and more importantly by whom. Spend 5 minutes talking with “marketing” and is soon becomes apparent that they usually understand very little about “their products.”
Guys, he is a troll, you shouldn’t even bother trying to explain anything, why wasting your time? hahahaha…
So you’re saying the 5D m III replaces Sony’s state of the art innovative cameras? The 5D m III is one from years ago, with a clunky 1950’s era technology flopping mirror, inferior image quality, feature set and ridiculous price?
If you’re trying to regress or go back in time, then yes. Otherwise, your statement is absolutely ridiculous.
You poor poor Canon fanboi!
LOL!
The main thing is that you enjoy taking pictures with your gear, irrespective of it’s brand, price, etc… and that you take great pictures with it. So, pleae ensure you enjoy that Canon 5D MkIII if that has your preference at this time.
I don’t really think this proves that it replaces both, just that it’s aimed at enthusiasts and for me, of course Sony would illustrate that way, why would they show a hole in their target demographics? It would be odd AND ugly. Its even on SGL’s video, Kenta says it’s replacing the NEX-6, he doesn’t say NEX-6 AND NEX-7, I don’t think there are any piece by Sony that actually says that, that actually writes it’s replacing both.
My 2 cents is that Sony is focused on the FF and that’s it, they won’t bother a high-end real NEX-7 successor for a while, it would certainly hurt their FF – it would be an overall better camera for less. So, it’s KIND OF replacing the NEX-7, but not really, it’s kind of replacing it until real replacement comes. If there are pressure or if it’s no longer an issue for their FF, Sony will probably release the A7000.
And not only that, this is probably related with their A-mount APS-C strategy as well and they will try to attract more enthusiasts as possible to their next A77 to maximize their gains. And for the A-mount they don’t have to bother releasing a bunch of lenses to fill the gaps, since the gaps in the lens selection of the E-mount is much, much bigger.
What Sony is really telling here is that it won’t come for a while so don’t bother waiting for it, when it comes, it comes.
I thought 5D was some ‘boy band’?? ‘Story Of My Life’, etc??
😉
I think it starred in a 1960’s TV comedy.
From this chart it is evident no one wants an A3000 except if they have no other option at all…..
I also do not quite understand the strategy. If they remove the old models – NEX-5T, 6 and 7 we will be left with A3000, A5000, A6000 and A7. So I guess price wise A7 replaces NEX-7, A6000 replaces NEX-5 and A5000 repalces NEX-3N while A3000 is just opening up some really low end segment of interchangeable lens cameras untapped by now. they should probably make the A3000 a bit cheaper too. Like $100 ILC for kids, students etc.
Pretty sure at $329 with lens, the A3000 is plenty cheap enough…and the intended audience is obvious without the above chart.
Try an A3000, even $329 is too much for that piece of crap. It’s the only body in the NEX or SLT line that is honestly a POS. Awful EVF, Awful rear LCD, horrid location for its single control dial (due to the grip design it’s difficult to reach the NEX-3-style dial if you’re holding the grip properly).
A pity, since if it had merely been a SLT-A33 with an E mount it would have been a nice little body.
$100 ILC? Why would a kid want an ILC? And how would that not be destroyed the first second they attempt to change lenses.
Perhaps if they made it out of cardboard it might make sense.
Its now the perfect time for Sony NAB rumors.
Andrea? Nothing? Not even an SR1 or 2 out there?
No, this slide only introduces a6000, not as a NEX-7 replacement but as an enthusiast/second body option with higher end bodies which so applied to NEX-5N and up.
This in no way depicts the roadmap for camera bodies on either mount just where they are at at this point. Sony would like to first sell enough of the four new bodies launched over five month before hinting at another that is likely several months out.
What is it about the dotted line connecting the A6000 graphic with the NEX-7 graphic that you don’t understand. With the direct connection to the NEX-7 and not the NEX-6 could almost make the argument that the A6000 replaced the NEX-7 only.
there are two main brands for cameras: Canon & Nikon.
sony only makes batteries for them. period.
Canon and Nikon make cameras, Sony make “gadgets” apparently. 😀
And when Nikon wants a decent sensor they go to Sony.
Someones ButtHurt!
LAWL!
What’s the matter you poor sad lame canikon, feeling the heat?
Are you aware how many Nikon cameras are using SONY sensors? Or this is news to you? Let me give you a hint – more than 10!!!
Maybe for you there are two car brands as well – Mercedes and BMW. But the Nissan GT-R spanks them day and night. Go back to your black-and-white world and enjoy your two brands. You’ll have lots of fun.
I started with a Minolta 7000, the first AF SLR. Then Olympus in the digital era. Then Canon point and shoot, Canon DSLR. Then dumped Canon and switched to Sony NEX. I think I’ll stick to Sony E and EF for the foreseeable future.
As a permanent traveller I was looking for a smallish / large sensor camera with interchangeable lenses. None were available until the NEX-5 was released. I got one at the time, I loved it. Today I use a NEX-6 and a A7r and I definitely enjoy these. Both IQ are great. I think Sony is brilliant but perhaps it is because of their strive to pack more into a small form factor which fills my exact needs. Plus I feel that this is also what technological performance should be. A little more effort on design, materials and details would make things perfect for me.
Poor little baby!
HAHAA! Cant take the pressue, eh? 😉
Let me guess, you only buy speakers from Bose too. The products from these “main brands” are not necessarily the best option (for the price).
Sony also make sensors… Oh, yes I did not realise how useless these were… to Canon and Nikon…
funny how many of you are disappointed in this a6000…what you should know is that it is better than the nex-6 and nex-7 which is all it needed to be and at a lower price. end of story.
Not if you want a first class evf, or weather seal. It is a great value for mid range but not competitive on some key features in current enthusiast market. A7 has other issues, like size of FF lenses, low pixel density. Only matters to some buyers (at least me), but for them/me Sony has no offering at all. Clock is ticking before I switch systems to get the package I want.
The A6000 looks good to me though. I am looking for the A77 replacement as well. At this point, it’s hard to go wrong with any of the major camera makers so people switch systems to see what fits them best. What are you currently shooting with?
NEX7, all manual w/ Nikon, Minolta, Contax, Canon FD, and a few stray other lenses. It is a great time indeed, immense choice. 6000 looks like tremedous value, I wouldn’t discourage anyone from buying one. It just doesn’t meet my needs and I am fortunate that I can afford a considerably higher price point – and am in no hurry as the NEX7 is still one of the best cameras available.
I’ve been holding off committing to a system due to immense changes in the market.
If rumor of fast 85-300 from Fuji proves true and quality is on par with the rest of the Fuji lenses, however, I can assemble a top notch system that meets 95% of my needs for about $5k (my guess at street price). That is very tempting – I could keep N7 for the 5% specialty stuff where high pixel density really matters (extreme tele 500/4, macro), and sell all but the ‘gems’ in my lens collection.
To keep my attention, Sony needs to provide a roadmap that counters my temptation to jump to Fuji. They just don’t have much for me to look forward to right now – they are all over the place but somehow everything they have released muddies the waters or comes up short on my priorities. They could deliver awesome stuff for my needs/interests this year, or still be a hodge podge 5 years from now.
Competition is so intense right now I am sure someone will win my heart soon – I’m just not sure who…..
What is your attraction to the 6000?
I like the size and handling of the NEX6, though I liked tri-navi. I am looking forward to the fast AF. I like the IQ of the NEX-6 and it appears that the 24mp sensor on the A6000 will be at least on par with the older sensor. I like the dynamic range of the new Sony sensors. I use native Sony E lenses (except for a Rokinon 8mm fisheye) and find the Sony lenses to be quite good (except the 16mm, which needs to be stopped down to get good corner sharpness). I like shooting videos as well and the NEX cameras are quite good for the stuff that I do.
Of course, I have a feeling that there will be an APS-C E mount camera that will have more features than the A6000. You don’t bring out a Zeiss 16-70mm APS-C and mate it with a $650 body. You can, but if you can afford the $1000 lens, you can afford the higher priced camera that will be available for it.
The rumor mill seems a little bare. This tells me that Sony is introducing a slew of new cameras with perhaps new technology within the next several months. The A mount line is due to be refreshed (and I like the A mount system).
It is better if EVF is not important to you. It’s screen is still not touch sensitive, which is annoying. It’s missing some feature that the Nex-7 has as well.
None the less, the A6000 is good, but being better than the those 2 depends on one’s needs.
The A6000 doesn’t address any of the issues I had with the NEX-7 except better remote release compatibility (most importantly it still has a next to useless tripod mount due to the excessively thin body at the mount). And it includes a grossly inferior EVF, reduced controls and reduced build quality.
It’s a great replacement for the NEX-5T, and for the 6 if you don’t mind it moving a bit downmarket, which probably was needed. But Sony seriously needs a flagship APS-C body in E mount, even if only to offer a real upgrade for current NEX-6/7 users uninterested in giving up a significant investment in E mount wides.
Haters gonna hate .My only gripe is I have to add stl adaptor to use my A mount lenses and loose all that awsome AF performance …1 step foward 2 steps back so im going to sit this one out .I dont know why you pepole are hitting the a6000 so hard lol It has better specs than a cannon 7D and looking at the roumers verry close to their mkii in somthing half the size .
7 billions of people have 7 billions of opinions, and for every single one, the only one that counts is his own. The result of a6000, faster AF can be as good as they want, the majority of NEX-7 users will not step over to it because it is a downgrade in ergonomy. It makes no better shot than NEX-7, it just has better high ISO capacities. So, if Sony thinks that there is anything to win with that policiy, I invite all those who do not agree to spread that on all sites and forums and on exhibitions if you g there. So, beginning of the story again, end of citation.
I wait until Photokina to see if a successor will come or not, something usable for me. If that is not the case I change the brand, and possibly, I change it even before, I get bored by Sony’s customer policy jokes. For me, a replacement for NEX-7 is a tri navy, doesn’t matter if they relocate the wheels in a front/rear disposition, a better EVF and 1/8000 shutter speed. Keeping those cameras at 1/4000 is ridiculous. Pana can do it in the GX7, with IBIS, so Sony can do it too.I don’t need IBIS, OIS is enough for me.
The source link is wrong. It should be http://www.winandmac.com/2014/02/sony-alpha-6000-hongkong-announced/
Let me be very clear. Neither the 6000 nor the 7 are remotely adequate replacement for NEX7.
Sony should be a LOT more concerned how many buyers defect to the Fuji system before Sony clarifies their body plans than how many 6000/7 sales they might lose. Those who accept advantages of 6000/7 will still buy them, those who do not won’t buy 6000/7 – if Sony has no horse in the race sales go to Fuji, Olympus, Panasonic. Those are system losses that probably don’t come back for a decade or more of lens and accessory purchases. Sony are being extremely foolhardy.
I agree with you, but obviously Sony doesnt care.
About a month ago I was buying back into APS-C mirrorless after a brief sojourn with m43 and then a FF DSLR. As a former NEX-5/7 user I want a 2-body system with a light carry body (NEX-5x) and a serious shooting camera (NEX-7 replacement), but I want a single sensor size to simplify lens selection (I don’t want two sets of wides).
Sony doesn’t offer such a system (the NEX-7 has a couple weaknesses with regards to tripod handling and handling with larger lenses that mean I didn’t want to go with it). The A6000 replaces the NEX-6 and NEX-5R quite well at its pricepoint, but it leaves a massive $1k gap between itself and the A7 that should be filled with an APS-C body (even if it was simply the A7 body with the A6000 sensor & shutter).
Accordingly I chose the X-A1 + X-T1 combo instead. Fuji has both the bodies and the lenses I want. Sony has the lenses, but has completely ignored the core enthusiast bodies in the NEX-7 replacement (And this hasn’t been the first time Sony’s done this, A700 replacement anyone?)
Bumpy. Hobbyists simply like shiny things and different gizmos with their gadgets. (The old gizmos are removed because hobbyists don’t like old ones.)
The 6000 is an adequate replacement for the NEX-7 because the model number is BIGGER! This clearly indicates that it’s designed to meet the needs of the curious hobbyist, stepping up from their NEX 5T.
Snapshooters enjoy having fewer features and fewer controls, because it allows them to concentrate better. Particularly if chewing gum. The a6000 provides this simplicity by removing confusing features… like TRI NAVI.
This is how Sony sees the APS-C mirrorless buyer. I’m sure their market research confirms this.
Having tried the A6000, I can live with the absence of Tri-navi. The multitude of Fn and customizable buttons, pls the 2 memory modes more than make up for the tri-original navi. It’s a simple matter of getting used to the controls.
But what I do not understand is why they have to downgrade many aspects from the original nex-6 (not to mention the 7) – the evf for one, the leveling gauge for another.
Over the course of a few decades I’ve shot almost exclusively with Nikons. I see the A6000 as a way to test the waters and to replace my V1 as a small carry-around camera. Yes, it is no Fuji X-T1 type of camera, but plenty of people are testing the water with the Fuji X-M1 before going high-end. I can see how those with the NEX 7 would be bummed out by the release, but maybe it will help expand the customer base to enable Sony to produce better options.
The a3000 is at the bottom – in the white area. Not even green. Who are these targets? “Confused llamas and casual photographing kittens”?
If A6000 replace Nex 6&7 , why not naming it A7000 at the beginning. Leaving the 7 series blank make no sense to me.
Who says they’re done introducing models?
It would be better if A6000 have some features that are on Rx10
like 3.5mm Mic plug-in
Together with the Mi hotshoe
And good quality of video
While some e mount lens are for video purposes, if apsc e mount line up
Can put more features for video ,
it would be great
Why didn’t they name it the a7000
‘Cause it’s sony, so the mess in naming is normal, everyday thing to them 🙂
Maybe e-mount 7 series will be all FF after Photokina when NEX style 7 cam is introduced?
If that is true, I would seriously ask Sony why they did not include the digital leveling gauge in A6000 – surely an “enthusiast” camera should deserve this puny feature?
The more advanced you get as a photographer, the less features you need to take good photos. A truly great photographer needs nothing besides the ability to control composition, exposure, focus and white balance.
In other words, the more you pay for a camera, the less features you should get. You should pay for build quality and reliability, not gimmicks and gadgetry. I would never pay more to get more – at least Leica understands that.
By the way, how can I get it back on the A7r ? The manual is so bad, it does not explain how to set things up in details..
There are companies, who listen to their customers and give exactly what they want. Then there are some companies who see what is the one thing that their customers like in a product and remove exactly that thing in their future offering. This is not the first time that sony has removed a feature that their customers liked.
Trinavi is THE thing i like most about nex 7. no other camera that i have laid my hands on has such intutive interface in such a minimal package. May be this is their way of forcing enthusiast APSC users to upgrade to FE systems. If so, their plan is failing and is about to force the users to defect to other systems.
The E mount line-up still looks strange to me having single digit, A#, and four digit A#### models. There is also a gap left in the line-up by replacing both NEX6 & 7 with only one model, both proce-wise and feature-wise. Judging by the rumours and Sony being quite aggressiveto push new tech (a good thing), I think its most likely to see a lower spec’d single digit (FF) model. i.e. A5 or A3, plastic build, no EVF, VERY competitive price. There is also room a the top of the four digit (APSC) models for a A7000 or A9000 with full metal build, compact, EVF on left, very much hope tri-navi system.
Tried a few minutes Sony A6000 in Photo Lyon Numerique shop while a representative (représentant en francais) was showing it to vendors… Was true chance !!! Looks very nice in metal and solid. The representative said A6000 replaces Nex7 with new sensor and processor and added the low light performance ll be improved. Btw I wait for Dx0mark tests.
So,what exactly is new here? The nex6 shot rouighly at that speed, with comparable accuracy percentages. Yes at 16 mpicsels but no one will be able to tell! The nex7 has 24 mpicsels, shoots impresively fast and has a much better, faster EVF! People! The speed of anEVF matters more than the resolution. Go to the store and take the a6000 to your eye, have the salesperson clap their hands and be amazed! The dalay is bad enough for you to miss the clap every time! And it gets worse as the lighting gets worse.No mike input but Zebra pattern?! Thanks Sony for an other crippled product! I stick to my NEX7 and when the shutter wears out i’ll get my self a Canon SLR, if you ever used one you know why!
The word is Pixel.
The A6000 is better than the Nex-7 in many ways but its lack of tri-nav, a similar quality EVF and a touchscreen disturbs me. Rumour is that it will also feature weather sealing and IBIS (possibly 5 axis) but now im starting to doubt its existence.