Today is leaking day 🙂
After the NEX-5T and lens leak we now can finally see some bigger images of the new E-mount zoom. The image on top shows the new 16-70mm f/4.0 oSS Zeiss. It has a filter diameter of 55mm and will cost around $1,000. And than we have an image of the 18-105mm G PZ lens with that huge 72mm filter size diameter. A lens made for filmmakers 🙂
UPDATE: There is also an image of the new Black version of the current 50mm f/1.8 lens.
These lenses along the NEX-5T and ILC-3000 will be announced next week.
via Digicaminfo.
142 Responses
NICE!!
Maybe I’ll get the Zeiss for my 5n because I already have the RX1 for fast 35mm. This and the 5n would be great for covering anything else I seldomly use but also giving me a great video experience.
That 18-105 could be easily my all-around lens 🙂
Shame they’re not full frame lenses, but even in crop mode they’ll be great for FF-NEX.
Even with it being bigger and heavier than the 18-200?
I know the Zeiss covers a big range, but isn’t the front element too huge for a slow F4 lens?
I am just wandering (hoping) is there any chance this is a FF lens?
There is a small chance that Sony will use the G designator for FF lenses …
Now I just hope a new roadmap with a fast 2.8 zoom !!!
F4 is just too slow for my need in low light conditions !!
I’m waiting for a fast one since 2011 … Just a dream !!
Great work admin!!! Let the Leaks and rumours flow 😀
Some more FF Nex stuff would really make the weekend sweet 😉
Sony need a high end NEX body (NEX7 replacement) to go with these lenses, no way am I going to match these to a a3000 or Nex5
ok
Heh, heh, heh…
How much will the Sony G lens cost?
Compare lens sizes
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Great link!
The Zeiss zoom is not so big. Actually, not big at all especially when mounted to a NEX 7
agreed! the size of the zeiss looks really nice! only a bit bigger than the stock 18-55!
if i were to stay around APS-C with my 5R i would almost definitely get it! but i think i’ll hold out for FF NEX 😀
This is Sony branded Zeiss lens as it as the same look as with the 24mm 1.8 and not a Touit one. That’s explain why it has OSS.
But yes it is steel a slow zoom, I’d rather wanted a 16-50 f2.8…
Now Sigma, as you did 2 great prime lens, there is a HUGE opportunity to take.. Sony is missed this one…
SIGMA IF YOU READ THIS !!!! PLEASE !!!!! FAST HIGH QUALITY ZOOM !!!
I hope that both Sony aqnd Sigma will not spet time on creating 16-50/2.8 that is totally useless on small NEX bodies.
Useless is a big term. I agree, e-mount is also for small packages and sizes, but for some people only a small camera with ‘oversized’ lenses is good enough
Oh, there are even some piople that BDSM is good enough. 🙂
Seems like their are people who don’t care about quality and only want tiny crapy pancakes !!
May be yould be a little more open mind and figure out that people could need fast lens.
We don’t care opinion like yours !
A slow zoom is useless too !
+1
Cool, I hope the Zeiss doesn’t extend while zooming – size wise it seems to be ok.
It will, almost 100% certain about that. You can see it in the construction almost.
The size is sweet though, only slightly bigger than the SEL24 and most likely smaller than the Fuji 1855. This lens is a winner.
Agreed, don’t think there are any lenses like this that don’t extend. Still holding out hope 🙂
If the image quality is up to scratch and it has decent close focusing abilities, I’ll be all over this lens.
I was just looking at the 18-105 and thinking it looks like it doesn’t extend. I hope it doesn’t.
I expect that it does not extend and that the front element does not turn. It looks to me like it is designed for videography. Those characteristics whould make it even more desirable for video.
16-70mm f/4.0 oSS Zeiss: one of the first really interesting lens made by Sony for E-mount. Couldn’t they improve on lenses instead of going on with this body-o-rama?
Interesting if you like slow zoom !!
And what do you like? Gigantomania?
And you like slow useless zoom !!!
And you like elephant on monkeys dick? This is totally useless, this is actually real absurd, like samsung optically good 85/1.4, but totally absurdely big. Are you fanatic of DOF and nothing more?
The pancake fan is back !
Not me.
Yes YOU !!!
Perhaps you will ask for a very light and tiny pancake lens, something like a 16-200 f.6 🙂
You seems having an opinion on everything and knowing what everyone need !!
And from which size is it beginning to be ridiculous ?
Did you ever had 16-80ZA or 16-50/2.8? This is already too big and too havy. The lens that around 500g is even more then not comfortable on small NEX bodies. Because of that all that asks for 16-50/2.8 on NEX is just stupid.
Maybe they are people who need fast lens !
Maybe you could be a little bit more open minded !!
Just explain how you can cover a wedding with slow zoom for pro photo !!!
It is just a stupid reaction, saying everyone don’t need a kind of lens because you don’t need it !
35/1.8 OSS, 50/1.8 OSS is not lenses?
Apparently not.
Oh, the best croped 50mm lens is not god for you? One of the best 35/1.8 crops also, so what is “good”?
I was actually agreeing with you. Maybe I should’ve formulated it better. I own both lenses and find them to be great.
These are lenses, but not interesting for him, apperently.
Because of misunderstanding lack of knowledge or bad taste?
I wish they would bring out a zeiss 24-70 f4 or 24-105 f4 on a-mount.
Yes, this is the reason why I more and more consider about moving to Canon, Sony has only ultra expensive lenses and some cheap crap, no mid range
This is exactly what offering to users also Canon. May be 100/2 have suitable price.
“Ultra expensive lenses”? Geez, this myth never ends.
Zeiss 16-80 F3,5-4,5 for A-mount is available since 2007 and it’s quite a good lens.
Sony/Minolta 24-105 F3,5-4,5 is older but golder
Zeiss 16-80 is one of the best zooms in therms of bokeh I ever used. An excellent lens. I used primes with worse bokeh than that Zeiss.
$1,000 be damned, the 16-70 is looking more and more like the walkaround lens I have been looking for. *insert Futurama “shut up and take my money” JPG here*
Start throwing money at the screen.
I tried, didn’t work, still haven’t got the lens 🙁
There must be something we can do… but what?
obviously you didn’t throw the money hard enough 😀
Pb’s analysis may shed light into the problem we are facing here.
Buy one for me too, please 🙂
Pah, $1,000 RSP = $900 online shop = 690 euro and suddenly it sounds a whole lot cheaper. Not cheap, cheapER. Could almost buy two … almost 😛
1000 € for a f4 🙁
I’d rather 1500 € for a 2.8 !!!!!
Imagine the size and weight 16-70 F2.8 lens. Probably 3 times bigger (and not even as good as good slower lenses are much easier to design ad build)
My NEX 5N is my backup camera, so I am not going to buy this lens or consider it. However, I wouldn’t mind a faster zoom. I realize the size jumps so I’d be happy with an 18-35/2.8 to help keep the size smaller. 16-70 is nice for a general purpose lens, but f/4 is just too slow on an APS-C body for me. I have no doubt the quality will be superb, though.
+1
I don’t need a 16-70 f. 4 !! Too slow
But a 16-50 or 16-35 2.8 could be more interesting !
NEX-7, SEL24 and SEL1670 what a set!
…along with SEL35, SEL1018 and a SEL85
Shutter speed wise, the size zoom can be used similarly as the SEL24 due to the OSS.
Partially true – for static objects, when you need to freeze action – a fast lens is a fast lens…
To freeze action please go to D700 and 70-200 VRII. Exactly the NEX competitor 🙂
New and new E-mount G and CZ lenses, nothing about A-mount, looks like it will slowly die…
You don’t track rumors carefully enough. a-mount lenses are comming to this year. Not to mention the fact that we already got few releases this year (including outstanding Zeiss 50F14)
Non of these will be full frame lens especially the18-105 PZ lens? It seem longer/bigger than 18-200mm PZ lens. I hoping there are PZ lens for full frame either E-mount or A-mount version and future camera can access the power zoom. Of course it is benefit for video only..
If this new G PZ lens only can control by video camera, then rather wait for another G zoom lens to release for lesser cost and smaller size that without PZ. Plz tell me coming nex can control the power zoom!
18-105 full frame? Impossible. 18mm is super wide angle on FF. No one ever built 18 to large zoom for FF. Full frame zoom lenses start at 24mm
The lens is large probably because of image stabilization designed for video.
It is “probably” impossible.
But what could be completely possible is that this lens covers the FF circle from a certain FL onward (24?), and that FF nex will simply forbid it from zooming out past that focal length.
Because let’s be honest – the size is more reminiscent of a 24-105/4 for FF than a 18-105/4 for APS-C.
I’m hoping for a twist like that.
That would bring me some more hope for SONY.
Btw, I called the Aug27th date back in 2012.
SONY always announces on the last Tuesday in August.
This lens is not full frame.
it’s too late , I’ve already got the 50/1.8 OSS.
I think I may buy the Zeiss 16-70mm f4, depends on its resolution and amount of CA at wide end ,though.
They also need a 135mm f1.8 ZA equivalent lens for APS-C E mount.
i know that feeling man! i bought the 50 f1.8 OSS a few months ago! i prefer it in silver but it scratches a lot easier on the silver body! 🙁
More like 85. It’s FF equivalent of 135.
SAR wins again!
you mean digicame-info wins again 😉
I think D-SLR dies sooner than most of us expected , the biggest problem of the NEX mount is now solved with the new Zeiss zoom.
you really think nex’s only problem was the lack of a 16-70 f4 zoom? lol… try not having a single 1.4 or faster prime lens. this is photography 101.
Some people think DSLrs die only because they have their 18-55mm zoom, completly ignoring the needs of everyone else.
Sorry, but DSLRs aren’t anywhere near death. Mirrorless are killing only bridge cameras. Nothing else. And to make it even worse – sales of mirrorless are not going up anymore, seems like this market is stabilizing, so DSLRs are still high above whole mirrorless market combined and it won’t change in any near future.
With the size of the 18-105 and f4, looks like most shooters will still be better off with the SAL1650+LAEA2
you’re not within the target market for that lens… Expect that lens to be mounted on FS, VG and EA series of NEX camcorders where size doesn’t matter at all. I think it makes more sense on the EA50 than NEX-7
Well yeah, seeing as I’ll be getting the Zeiss 16-70 :*)
I tried to match the mount parts (which should be the same size) for the 50mm and 16-70, and while this is certainly not scientific, it seems the Zeiss is pretty compact: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/4849272/1670-50.jpg
The 16-70 looks sweet, though I’m not gonna carry the weight of it after having the 12mm Touit, 24mm Sonnar and 50mm Touit (soon) in my lens bag. Maybe a fast (f/1.8 or faster) 60/75/85mm portrait lens?
awesome! now i can carry around full frame size lenses with my petit nex camera! i think that filter diameter on the 18-105 is beaten only by the hubble telescope.. 🙂
By the look of the size of the zeiss zoom lens and the G zoom lens, I have a feeling that the G zoom lens will have a better optical performance. The zeiss one is a lot smaller than the G zoom this usually a sign of compromise for size over quality. And I hope I am wrong because I like the zeiss size a lot. But in the same time very good lenses for many aaplication.
I guess sony gradually making a good line up lenses fir its E-mount.
The G zoom has 2 rings: one for focus and one for… zooming? Does it mean that it has manual zoom and also power zoom? That would be great news 🙂
That’s possible, the power zoom might just be there for people who want smooth zooming for videos.
On the 1650PZ you can zoom with the ring as well, but it is still an electronic zoom, not a real manual zoom, just two different implementations op power zoom.
Both the 16-70 and black 50 look pretty good ! The 18-105 defies the whole NEX concept by its sheer size IMO, but I’m sure it’ll sell well.
I agree. I don’t know what it is about the Zeiss zoom, but it just looks so beautiful to me haha. The size increase is very manageable too for what it is. I’m also tempted to buy the black 50 even though I already have the original for pure aesthetic reasons lol
Please pics of the ILC3000!!!!
Just imagine small ugly DSLR with horrible viewfinder, easy to scratch sensor and very long label.
Now all we need is the NEX-7(x) leaking and I am happy.
no need for another NEX-5.
the Zeiss Zoom looks the most promising to me.
Ya !
We need NEX-7 successor .
Seriously, give us finally a NEX-7 successor, Sony!
WONDERFUL, love it!!!
Lens size does not matter IMO, the NEX is more and more becoming a PRO system and needs good & big pro lenses. Good thing is I can still use the same body also with a smaller lens like the 16-50 if I need a light walkaround combination.
Just one thing: If all these prime lenses have OSS, I start doubting if the new NEXes really will have IBIS.
I doubt it too.
If Sony are going to adopt Olympus’ 5-axis stabilisation, I suspect it’ll be for A-mount only.
PRO system? Not a single weather-sealed body or lens, not a single body supporting battery grip, not a single fast zoom, not a single long tele… what kind of PRO can use it, the kind who runs from an event he supposed to shoot with first drops of rain, or the kind who shouts “stop the ceremony, I need to change battery/lens!”, or the kind who refuses assignments indoors because it is too dark for his lenses? 😉
If size does not matter – just buy A-mount camera, or EOS or F-mount. These are already PRO systems, by far more pro than E-mount will be even in next 10 years.
Remember SR5 – E-mount = entry level.
OH YES, i’m so gonna get that black 50/1.8 *drools*
So the far left lens is the 50mm black (as i believed) and not the 85mm (as i expected)
So I hope the 85mm will be collapsable, to be as compact as possible.
Ohh man, this 18-105 is massive! i hope doesn’t extend too, i’m keep saying, fast zoom are too big for Nex(and this zoom are slow), the hope was the ILC series but the unannounced ILC-3000 looks like garbage.
You forget that NEX also include the EA50, FS100 and FS700, which are often used with rigs and big lenses. Sony should really make some great video lenses for those so we don’t have to fiddle with adapters etc.
The 18-105 looks to be a step in that direction!
Wow, 18-105 is bigger than 18-200 PZ!
f/4 for filmmakers and for 1000 usd? Overpriced. Or too slow.
And no power zoom over lanc for fs-100 (ea50 can do this). Firmware 3.0 highly needed!
I always wished my 18-200 PZ was at least f4 all the way… The 18-105, looks great for filming in smaller venues where the full range of the 18-200 isn’t necessary.
And finally a black 50mm! The silver one looks ridiculous on my EA50 and 3N 😉
That 16-70mm will be my reason to switch to NEX. (I’m mostly an M43 shooter.) Always wanted the NEX7 but have been waiting for years for a high-quality standard zoom that actually takes advantage of the 24mp sensor. I’m hoping that this is the one!
Same here.
Yeah it will be fun to see how it performs on an NEX-7! I’m sure it will be top quality.
My solution was to switch from an NEX-7 to a Fuji X-E1 system. The fuji 18-55mm f/2.8-4 is outstanding, and with the body it’s $999 if you shop around. I really love the 14mm f/2.8 as well, it’s even sharper than the Touit 12mm, not to mention smaller and cheaper. The NEX-7 has a bit more potential detail with its 24mp sensor, but the Sony kit lenses and 16mm more than negate the resolution advantage. Both are great cameras and it was a tough choice for me, but the fuji lenses, awesome high iso performance and look/feel won me over.
How many iris blades has the video lens? an i control the iris stepless? I make full format videos. Does the video lens apply to FF requirements?
Thanks for developing the answers to my qeustions, guys!
69 comments, only one to complain about the size of the lens !?! Where are all the guys who complained about the size of the 1,8/24mm ? The 18-105 is huge ! Doesn’t balance at all with any Nex body.
+1000
Think it will balance just fine with a FS100 or FS700!
Power zoom. It means possible to remote control zoom by WIFI for NEX.
Big lenses small body NEX= Fail
Im really hoping sony have some FF e mount lenses that are being worked on right now. Getting kind of worried hearing NEX 9 is coming soon but no sony lenses up to enjoy the FF sensor. I am really hoping for a fast sharp 35mm prime lens. 35/f1.4G please.
Instead you will receive small 35/2.8 🙂
I just sold my Nex system and now have change to a OM-D and a GH3, now seeing this new Sony zooms and cameras (ILC/5T) I’m happy I did. I waited for the last 3 years for a fast zoom for my Nex 5n/7, and Sony comes with two f4.0 Zoom?
I’m still keeping some Sony Alpha glasses with me, hoping for a new generation of Alpha cameras.
I bought a Sony R-1 in 2005 – it came with a Zeiss 16-80 lens with a variable aperture. That was a great lens for landscape work, although the camera was heavy. Now that I have an NEX 5n, I’m hoping this will be my new do-it-all hiking lens. At $1000 and a constant f4 aperture, I expect the quality to be there. Hopefully it will be in the same league as the Zeiss 24mm.
I just hope I can get my hands on a 16-70 before my trip in October! That’s probably a pipe dream though.
The 18 – 105 would be a very sweet lens if paired with a Sony A55-like DSLR body. It sounds much like Canon’s Red Ring zoom, a real workhorse lens. 🙂
the 16-70 is a good size. Feared it might be massive. But, ouch, the price! More than the alpha cz16-80!
Well, you know what they say – spend your money on lenses, not on the latest camera.
I’m glad I switched to Fuji X-E1. $999 for both the body and the excellent 18-55mm f/2.8-4 lens. Better controls, better lenses, better prices, better photos.
same here. Not saying 16-70 is a bad lens, but just don’t see value in it while compare with other options out there.
X-E1/18-55 2.8-4/35 1.4/14 2.8 vs
Nex 6/16-70/35 1.8/10-18
Only you can decide which option is better value for you. both system can take great picture no doubt.
this just doesn’t make any sense … u do trade for some speed at 18mm (not at 55mm!) instead of for a most useful wider focal length? people crazy …
Then why comment on a Sony Nex rumor website?
OK so, normally I would get annoyed with the people on here complaining that the new premium Zeiss zoom is only f4 and not an f2.8 zoom and go on about how the NEX system would probably never get zooms that fast, being limited by its diminutive size and product line goals, but, I am actually really excited and almost feel like things just made sense for me for the first time with Sony’s introduction of a DSLR styled e mount. Since I always felt that Sony would never release f2.8 zooms because of size limitations, the idea of f4 zooms seemed like a very reasonable compromise. Not to mention, the f4 zooms of this world are gaining in popularity for their smaller size and weight over their f2.8 sister models. However, now that Sony is introducing a DSLR e mount lineup, also meaning something larger…I’m very hopeful that that would encourage Sony to drop those size limitations and bring out the fast zooms for e mount since at the very least, the dslr-body e mount owners would allow larger lenses, having a more manageable body size. This of course, is only if the initial offering takes off and Sony later introduces middle and high end offerings for that body style. Fingers crossed for fast zooms!
I am fine with F4 for the Zeiss.
Now I have my dream-vacation-camera-set almost complete.
1018, 1670, 24/1.8, 50/1.8 (will swap to the black one).
A HQ tele would just be a nice to have. I’m more looking forward to the Zeiss 50/2.8 Macro, as I love macros – and the 30/3.5 is not very usable.
Fits all together into a small to medium sized camera bag. 🙂
I could’nt better said my self.
But since the sel18-200, I could only thinking “why not a 16-50 or a 16-35 2.8”
I dream using a Nex 7 only on a wedding cover.
Even with this kind of lens, it would lighter than a bulky 5d …
My neck would appreciate at the end of the day !
18-105 f4 mast have for me . I own fs100 and this lens is something what I HAVE TO GET . THANKS SONY .
These look like nice lenses but the “f.4” part kills it for me. Damn.
It’s too big, it’s too small, it’s not fast enough, it costs too much, I want this instead, i will never be satisfied. wah wah wah, and the rumor mill goes on
Amazing!
So happy about the black 50mm. Sony should also make the 18-55 available in black as standalone lens.
You’ll be happy to find that a black 18-55mm goes for about $99 on eBay. I just sold mine after switching from an NEX-7 system to a Fuji X-E1.
This slow zoom just kill me.
Waiting since 2011 for a fast zoom and this is what sony offer us…
So sad !!
Any news on the black version of the 50mm 1.8? The silver version can be found at a very cheap price, but been holding off till the black one comes out…
FULL FRAME NEWS OR SHUT THE F*** UP!
You really need to take your pills !!
One question
“Who doesn’t have any f@*k$ to give and would love to have the Sigma 18-35 1.8 in E-Mount?”
I personally don’t give a shit that its huge I would use it on my Nex7 all day long.